Thanks for these - my Crosley sounds like it’s underwater, and I notice the turntable isn’t flat when a record is playing. Is there any way to flatten it? Or will any of these tips address that?
I’m sorry but there’s no way in hell these turntables could possibly track at 20 to 30 grams. I’ve never seen record players, including my old Victrola I had before I got my AT LP120XUSB, track higher than 8 grams. The original patent for vinyl records stated the recommended tracking force to be 6 grams. If you’ve got a Crosley, Victrola, whatever, don’t worry about damaging your records with the stylus. There was no audible damage done to my records I previously played on my Victrola when playing them on my AT LP120XUSB. You don’t have to have a tracking force of 2 grams like on my turntable to enjoy the music.
note all these turntables have ceramic cart. and they track at 5 grams and I have never seen 30 grams on any turntable not even the cheap ones unless that was a flintstone turntable you were talking about
It's also worth mentioning that having them track at or around 2 grams is actually worse since it'll mistrack. Magnetic cartridges can handle that just fine though
One other quick way to "upgrade" your Crosley (et al) is to install a set of speaker jacks and an isolation switch on the back and use the internal amp to power external speakers. The internal speakers are one of the main reasons for poor sound quality, not the generic on-board amp module, even if somewhat under powered. If the ground (or black) wire for the speakers is common to both, then a SPDT isolation switch will work, otherwise you'll need a DPDT switch. If SPDT, wire it up so the common from the amp goes to the center and one side goes to the interior speakers while the other goes to the external jacks, then wire the positive from the interior speakers to the exterior jacks. If DPDT, it would be better to wire the positive to the switch centers, and following the same instructions above, just going to the appropriate connections.
Is there any kind of tutorial that I can watch? I have one of the all-in-one Crosley's and it doesn't have a line out jack and I would like to give this a try
@@JFoviedo I'm sure there's something similar out there that you could watch or view. I am currently unable to make any type of videos due very recent surgery. If you want to join a young, as in only about a year old, forum, I could post sketches and photos back and forth, figuring out exactly what to do. If Mark will allow it, I can post the link here. OR, if you have an image host and link from there, I can figure it out that way.
@@TheTrueVoiceOfReason thanks for the offer, I actually looked for options but nothing clear, I just don't want to open it up and then mess something internal and I've never changed parts on any equipment like this one so I'm curious about what steps I need to take to try and upgrade it a little bit, btw, the link doesn't go anywhere, maybe you can give me the name of the forum.
@@JFoviedo Sorry about that, I replied on my phone and it often puts a period between letters or words. Fat fingers, you know... :) The Forum is toidsdiyaudio.com/comunity/ Go ahead and sign up and you can find me by my UA-cam initials. Look forward to meeting you there.
Be aware that the output jacks of most older turntables are not "line level" or "line out". They are "phono out". They should not be plugged directly into "aux in" or "line in" on an amplifier or receiver. You will need to plug into the "phono in" jacks on the amplifier or receiver. If your amp doesn't have a phono in, you will need a converter to match the impedance and level.
What about increasing the mass of the platter? Never owned a Crosley. But, seems like one of the selling points of ultra high-end turn tables is that a more massive platter just spins more smoothly (less wow & flutter, etc).
I have one of these but it's a Victoria and it's okay not the best for 90$ which is how much my parents payed for it but they could of got it for 70 or 60 dollars and when playing 45 rpm records near the end it will stop because of the tone arm because it's a bit short
I have an Ion Lp Player I upgraded the cartridge and stylus to a Bampa BP2ATC flip over stylus and glued a bolt with a couple of nuts to the base of the tonearm to create a an adjustable counter weight. Both of these modifications made a huge difference when played through external speakers or headphones.
I still have my very expensive vintage record player equipped with a very expensive MC cartridge and a very expensive MC-pre-pre amp. Since the CD was introduced in the eighties I almost never played vinyl records. Vinyl used to drive me crazy, because of the dust and the pops. A battle that can not be won, regardless how well the damned records are stored and cleaned.
Hi! I notice this is an older video - is there an email of yours that I may contact? I have questions in re: to my turn table and I’m optimistic that you’re the one who may hopefully help!
can anyone help me... my turntable sounds good for the most part but it sounds as if its in a lower tuning, or lower pitched when comparing the same song on spotify or youtube. part of me thinks its a leveling issue due to my player sitting on my desk thats only mounted to the wall and not on the floor but idk...
I suggest you use lithium grease or graphite high-speed grease, on the main bearing not oil, especially if it has a ball bearing at the bottom it needs to be greased not oiled and plenty of it you want some resistance this helps with wow and Flutter? Oiling the motor is a good idea, and if you can suspend the motor if it's not rubber mounted, even better, by using some rubber grommets should cost you any more then and dollar for 3 rubber grommets making sure they are tight fit on the screw and using a washer either side or just on the top, tighten them fairly tight but not gorilla tight. So for instance if you make the rubber grommet compress about 3 mm or 4 should do it, some adjustment with the screws might be needed the belt might come off or pinch at the top. It's got to be aligned with the platter pulley. if you can rest a ruler on top of the Brass pulley on the motor assembly and with your eye align it at 180 degrees to a level line. Same put lithium grease in the shaft of these cheap tonearms they have no bearings just the plastic sleeve packet with thick! white lithium grease.
I have Crosley CR6001A and the turntable is complaining. I hadn't used it in awhile and now it sounds like the platter is dragging. I removed the platter and turned it on to see if it was still making noise and it was. Everything else plays great. If you can get past the annoying noise, the record player works good too. Any ideas?
Mark, any chance you can tell me what would cause a rubbing noise on a Onkyo CP-1022A Turntable. I have taken off the belt and put back on. Also, it will play about 20 seconds and then automatically reject...and stop playing. I appreciate any help.
I was in Honkong recently, there you can buy good turntables, tube amps, speakers. Turntables are $8500, tube amps $24,000, speakers are $$$$$$. All in US dollars.
Not the case here I have PreSonus preamp Amplified speakers for Studio and I have a preamp separate I tried both with RCA coming out of the victrola my buddy wanted a better sound so I sold him my studio speakers but it doesn't know it doesn't matter what we plug into it even a preamp with bass adjustments we are not getting any meds or base out of a victrola it's like the crossover built into the victrola is only allowing 3 watts of highs to come through and no matter what we did we could not get rich sound to come out of the RCA's
Unfortunately, attempting to do anything with these "modern, high tech record players" is pretty much trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.While the tips might make some improvement, none will be dramatic.A suggestion was made to pick up a receiver and speakers at Goodwill or the like, might as well look for a real hi-fi turntable too. For a few bucks more than a Crosley, you can have a real hi-fi system that sounds good.
The tip that gives the most significant improvement to sound quality is his suggestion to connect it to an external amp and speakers. The biggest flaw in 99% of these 'suitcase' things is the itty-bitty, bottom-dollar speakers and the puny little internal amp. There are still other flaws to address, but external amp/speakers at least gives you some measure of bass response and stereo separation. Of course, if you have an external amp and speakers, the best 'inexpensive' upgrade is to deep-six the Crosley and go buy one of those Target Heyday things for $100. You get a real magnetic cartridge (which you can actually upgrade later on!), a real metal platter, and a decent enough tone arm. And even the supplied AT3600 cartridge can be set to track at 2.5g or even less. The Heyday isn't a high-end turntable by any stretch, but it's still far superior to those el-Cheapo portables.
Thanks for these - my Crosley sounds like it’s underwater, and I notice the turntable isn’t flat when a record is playing. Is there any way to flatten it? Or will any of these tips address that?
Did you ever fix this issue? I would like to know how to do this also
I’m sorry but there’s no way in hell these turntables could possibly track at 20 to 30 grams. I’ve never seen record players, including my old Victrola I had before I got my AT LP120XUSB, track higher than 8 grams. The original patent for vinyl records stated the recommended tracking force to be 6 grams. If you’ve got a Crosley, Victrola, whatever, don’t worry about damaging your records with the stylus. There was no audible damage done to my records I previously played on my Victrola when playing them on my AT LP120XUSB. You don’t have to have a tracking force of 2 grams like on my turntable to enjoy the music.
note all these turntables have ceramic cart. and they track at 5 grams and I have never seen 30 grams on any turntable not even the cheap ones unless that was a flintstone turntable you were talking about
It's also worth mentioning that having them track at or around 2 grams is actually worse since it'll mistrack. Magnetic cartridges can handle that just fine though
Crosley cruiser tracking force is 3.5g. Not 20g or 30g
I typically see them weigh in at 4-5 grams. Perfectly acceptable.
One other quick way to "upgrade" your Crosley (et al) is to install a set of speaker jacks and an isolation switch on the back and use the internal amp to power external speakers. The internal speakers are one of the main reasons for poor sound quality, not the generic on-board amp module, even if somewhat under powered.
If the ground (or black) wire for the speakers is common to both, then a SPDT isolation switch will work, otherwise you'll need a DPDT switch.
If SPDT, wire it up so the common from the amp goes to the center and one side goes to the interior speakers while the other goes to the external jacks, then wire the positive from the interior speakers to the exterior jacks.
If DPDT, it would be better to wire the positive to the switch centers, and following the same instructions above, just going to the appropriate connections.
Is there any kind of tutorial that I can watch? I have one of the all-in-one Crosley's and it doesn't have a line out jack and I would like to give this a try
@@JFoviedo I'm sure there's something similar out there that you could watch or view. I am currently unable to make any type of videos due very recent surgery. If you want to join a young, as in only about a year old, forum, I could post sketches and photos back and forth, figuring out exactly what to do. If Mark will allow it, I can post the link here. OR, if you have an image host and link from there, I can figure it out that way.
@@TheTrueVoiceOfReason thanks for the offer, I actually looked for options but nothing clear, I just don't want to open it up and then mess something internal and I've never changed parts on any equipment like this one so I'm curious about what steps I need to take to try and upgrade it a little bit, btw, the link doesn't go anywhere, maybe you can give me the name of the forum.
@@JFoviedo Sorry about that, I replied on my phone and it often puts a period between letters or words. Fat fingers, you know... :)
The Forum is toidsdiyaudio.com/comunity/
Go ahead and sign up and you can find me by my UA-cam initials. Look forward to meeting you there.
Be aware that the output jacks of most older turntables are not "line level" or "line out". They are "phono out". They should not be plugged directly into "aux in" or "line in" on an amplifier or receiver.
You will need to plug into the "phono in" jacks on the amplifier or receiver. If your amp doesn't have a phono in, you will need a converter to match the impedance and level.
What about increasing the mass of the platter? Never owned a Crosley. But, seems like one of the selling points of ultra high-end turn tables is that a more massive platter just spins more smoothly (less wow & flutter, etc).
I have one of these but it's a Victoria and it's okay not the best for 90$ which is how much my parents payed for it but they could of got it for 70 or 60 dollars and when playing 45 rpm records near the end it will stop because of the tone arm because it's a bit short
I have an Ion Lp Player I upgraded the cartridge and stylus to a Bampa BP2ATC flip over stylus and glued a bolt with a couple of nuts to the base of the tonearm to create a an adjustable counter weight. Both of these modifications made a huge difference when played through external speakers or headphones.
I still have my very expensive vintage record player equipped with a very expensive MC cartridge and a very expensive MC-pre-pre amp. Since the CD was introduced in the eighties I almost never played vinyl records. Vinyl used to drive me crazy, because of the dust and the pops. A battle that can not be won, regardless how well the damned records are stored and cleaned.
Hi! I notice this is an older video - is there an email of yours that I may contact? I have questions in re: to my turn table and I’m optimistic that you’re the one who may hopefully help!
can anyone help me... my turntable sounds good for the most part but it sounds as if its in a lower tuning, or lower pitched when comparing the same song on spotify or youtube. part of me thinks its a leveling issue due to my player sitting on my desk thats only mounted to the wall and not on the floor but idk...
I suggest you use lithium grease or graphite high-speed grease, on the main bearing not oil, especially if it has a ball bearing at the bottom it needs to be greased not oiled and plenty of it you want some resistance this helps with wow and Flutter? Oiling the motor is a good idea, and if you can suspend the motor if it's not rubber mounted, even better, by using some rubber grommets should cost you any more then and dollar for 3 rubber grommets making sure they are tight fit on the screw and using a washer either side or just on the top, tighten them fairly tight but not gorilla tight. So for instance if you make the rubber grommet compress about 3 mm or 4 should do it, some adjustment with the screws might be needed the belt might come off or pinch at the top. It's got to be aligned with the platter pulley. if you can rest a ruler on top of the Brass pulley on the motor assembly and with your eye align it at 180 degrees to a level line.
Same put lithium grease in the shaft of these cheap tonearms they have no bearings just the plastic sleeve packet with thick! white lithium grease.
If its a ball bearing in the bottom it needs OIL, not GREASE. A singel grade synthetic oil will do fine.
I have Crosley CR6001A and the turntable is complaining. I hadn't used it in awhile and now it sounds like the platter is dragging. I removed the platter and turned it on to see if it was still making noise and it was. Everything else plays great. If you can get past the annoying noise, the record player works good too. Any ideas?
The belt needs replacing
Mark, any chance you can tell me what would cause a rubbing noise on a Onkyo CP-1022A Turntable. I have taken off the belt and put back on. Also, it will play about 20 seconds and then automatically reject...and stop playing. I appreciate any help.
I was in Honkong recently, there you can buy good turntables, tube amps, speakers. Turntables are $8500, tube amps $24,000, speakers are $$$$$$. All in US dollars.
This is so incredibly helpful. Thank you!
I have a $30. VIBE SOUND. And it is far better than I expected it to be.
Great advice! Thank you.
Not the case here I have PreSonus preamp Amplified speakers for Studio and I have a preamp separate I tried both with RCA coming out of the victrola my buddy wanted a better sound so I sold him my studio speakers but it doesn't know it doesn't matter what we plug into it even a preamp with bass adjustments we are not getting any meds or base out of a victrola it's like the crossover built into the victrola is only allowing 3 watts of highs to come through and no matter what we did we could not get rich sound to come out of the RCA's
Unfortunately, attempting to do anything with these "modern, high tech record players" is pretty much trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.While the tips might make some improvement, none will be dramatic.A suggestion was made to pick up a receiver and speakers at Goodwill or the like, might as well look for a real hi-fi turntable too. For a few bucks more than a Crosley, you can have a real hi-fi system that sounds good.
The tip that gives the most significant improvement to sound quality is his suggestion to connect it to an external amp and speakers. The biggest flaw in 99% of these 'suitcase' things is the itty-bitty, bottom-dollar speakers and the puny little internal amp. There are still other flaws to address, but external amp/speakers at least gives you some measure of bass response and stereo separation.
Of course, if you have an external amp and speakers, the best 'inexpensive' upgrade is to deep-six the Crosley and go buy one of those Target Heyday things for $100. You get a real magnetic cartridge (which you can actually upgrade later on!), a real metal platter, and a decent enough tone arm. And even the supplied AT3600 cartridge can be set to track at 2.5g or even less. The Heyday isn't a high-end turntable by any stretch, but it's still far superior to those el-Cheapo portables.
Amazon
Walmart, urban outfitters, dumpsters
Or just buy a decent player right away
Got memes? Or make your own not as difficult as all that.
John sweda Is that a joke? 90% of people are not going to want to go through the stress of that. How the hell is that easier like frl lmao