Finally an upgrade for Crosley-type record players! - Banpa BP2ATC
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2018
- The Banpa BP2ATC is a direct replacement upgrade for the Chuo Denshi CZ800 ceramic phono cartridge used in millions of inexpensive record players, providing improved audio quality, a "flipover" stylus for easily playing 78 RPM records (sold separately), and the potential for reduced tracking force. Also available is the Pfanstiehl P192D cartridge, which is the same thing as the Banpa except it already comes with a lighter-tracking (2 to 4 gram) stylus with a true 3 mil 78 RPM tip on the flip side: www.thevoiceofmusic.com/catal...
The Banpa cartridge is now also sold on eBay in generic form: www.ebay.com/itm/Double-ruby-...
It does not solve all of the shortcomings of these record players, so upgrading to a "real" turntable is still the best solution, but if you have one of these players and you're not afraid to tinker with it, the Banpa cartridge can yield an immediately noticeable improvement in performance.
TurntableNeedles also now has an elliptical stylus upgrade available for the CZ-800 "Crosley" cartridge, the 793-DEM: www.turntableneedles.com/402-... - Наука та технологія
I don’t own a Crosley but my ilive is very similar. So I took your advice and bought the diamond needle. Wow!! It’s like a brand new player!! It’s really awesome that you put this video out instead of like so many out there bashing the all in ones. I will still be saving for a better player but for now I’m happy. Thank you
My mom got me a crosley-type turntable (Musitrend to be exact) as my first record player because it was cheap and we're poor. It's really great. You can turn off auto stop, it can play all speeds, you can plug in headphones and speakers, and it comes with a cord to put the music digitally on your computer.
The only problem is that the tonearm doesn't have a counter weight, and the stylus is cheap Crosley ceramic.
Glad I saw this video. Definitely going to buy the bampa cartridge. I also want to replace the tonearm with a silver s shaped one with counter weight. I'd also like to replace the dust cover with a glass one.
@@directorkid3131 Ceramic doesn't automatically mean 'bad'. Sure, it's not the equal of a magnetic, but the biggest flaw with those suitcase things is the itty bitty speakers they fit them with.
The lack of a counterweight on those things isn't really that big of a a deal. They actually track about 5g, which is actually the recommended tracking force for most ceramic carts. Even at 5g, most records will last several hundred plays before there is significant detioration.
As a sort of experiment, I took a pair of basic, small two way speakers from an old 'shelf' stereo I had (long since perished) and hooked them to the amplifier of a Victrola portable, bypassing the built-in speakers. What a stunning difference; it actually sounded respectable! The amplifier is nothing to write home about, probably one watt per channel at most, but many people don't realize that you can actually get decent volume with relatively low power.
I'm still not a fan of those portable things, but It's easy to see the shortcomings and with a little ingenuity, correct them. It's still not audiophile, true, but that doesn't mean there there aren't ways to make it better.
@@xaenon Also apparently they dont match the impedance of the cartridge, so it doesnt sound very good. Ceramic carts can actually sound good if you use them correctly.
@@GrumpzTheCat That is also a valid concern, but really, because of the tiny speakers, you're not going to see much improvement by impedance-matching the amp. If you go with my route of external speakers (and preferably an external amp), the issue it will become more prominent. Nonetheless, even without the proper input impedance, the external speakers (with or without an outboard amp) will make a significant improvement over the internal audio section.
@@GrumpzTheCat Yes indeed
That stereo stack is a trip. It looks like every early-2000's stereo that typically had a 5-disc changer. I've never seen one with a turntable.
Well, a disc changer belongs to the 90's a lot more. Actually, the whole of that system does, it's a real rarity out of phase with the time of its release. Maybe it was not the last one with a turntable on it, but the first adapted to the the modern vinyl revivalism. As far as I can remember, turntables had virtually disappeared from home stereos when the 90's decade was at its half (though they were always there in the DJing scene and high end gear), not to come back until over a decade later.
My grandma has a Vorx brand stacker with a turntable. No disk changer though, way too cheap for that, but the single disk tray is very chunky and closes with a nice thump. Late 80s-early 90s.
My sister has a similar stereo. Curtis branded, with a 3 disk CD changer, dual cassette deck, AM/FM radio, phonograph, and remote. If the sun hits it right, it'll turn on by itself. Bought at London Drugs (Canada) in the early 2000's to replace a late 1970's Radio Shack Realistic Clarinet system with the usual BSR record changer.
I have seen stereo systems like that still made with turntables they go under weird brands though..
The sunlight turns it on because the sunlight is similar to the signal that comes from the remote.
Wow thank you for this article! I bought my niece a Crosley suitcase and it was cute as a 15 year old gift, she just turned 20 and her collection keeps growing. Feeling guilty that it sounds like crap but will get her a cartridge and replace it for her.
Wow, that 78 sounds amazing for how long its been around!
That would've been great to play it on my GE Wildcat, because mine had a C660 phono cartridge with a single LP diamond stylus, and it would not support to play a 78 with an LP stylus. I would've get the cartridge with the flipover stylus for my GE Wildcat. I also used my Victrola VV 8-4 and it does sound fine for 78's, because it had a steel needle and an Orthophonic reproducer and it doesn't sound too bad, but it gets minor damage after a number of plays on later 78's including this one. The quality sounds better than the distorted quality on my 1926 wind-up Victrola.
Agreed. for 1939 it sounds better than some new albums being produced now, LOL
@@vinniemorciglio4632 More than agree.
A high surprise for me... Even more if one takes into account the minimal or non existent mixing and/or eq techniques used in those days. One song, just one take.
Really remarkable!
That kiss kiss bop is amazing
I have a few 78s (50+of them) and they all sound good even though they were in the cold and heat outside for 50 years (grandparents shed) I had to clean all of them
When you squeeze the terminals to make a better fit... slide a tooth pick inside the terminal so when you squeeze, you have the wood as resistance preventing you from over squeezing and crushing. Also makes holding the terminal easier when squeezing.
Thank you for this! My Victrola 6-in-1 was skipping on many of my records (which played just fine on another turntable). I swapped in the Banpa cartridge and not only does it sound much better, but it corrected the skipping problem. Much happier!
The buttons on my innovative technology MODEL: ITVS-750 are stuck. First I tried spraying them with WD40 with no luck. Next I removed the back and found out the buttons were not accessible from the back. I could not find any screws to remove the face where the buttons are so I don't know what to try next. Any suggestions will be appreciated .
Wow, the amazing sound of that 78, blew me away. I’ve never heard one sound that crisp & clear.
*UPDATE:* Also now available is the Pfanstiehl P192D cartridge, which is the same thing as the Banpa except it already comes with a lighter-tracking (2 to 4 gram) stylus with a true 3 mil 78 RPM tip on the flip side: www.thevoiceofmusic.com/catalog/part_detail.asp?PNumberBase=P192D
The Banpa cartridge is now also sold on eBay in generic form: www.ebay.com/itm/Double-ruby-and-sapphire-stereo-stylus-needle-turntable-cartridge/274448225805
And TurntableNeedles also now has an elliptical stylus upgrade available for the CZ-800 "Crosley" cartridge, the 793-DEM: www.turntableneedles.com/402-M208-165_Superior_Elliptical_Upgrade_Stylus
Direct comparison time stamps:
10:18 old cartridge (Chuo Denshi CZ800)
14:50 new cartridge (Banpa BP2ATC)
I wish you would take a test record and actually measure what's going on. Yes, it sounds "clearer", but that may just be due to an increase in midrange and treble output. So maybe it just has a rising response as opposed to a flat response, which you could also accomplish by adjusting tone controls. The real measure of improvement would be: does it actually track any better? What about it's handling of the heavy bass passages?
The difference is HUGE!!!!
It also depends on the record player you use it with. Tracks well at least with my BSR changer
Thank you for this 😊
Too many people in my country are buying Crosley turntables.
NZ is flooded with them.
Music to watch girls by. Hillarious 😀
Definitely going to be upgrading my Crosley-type turntable after seeing this. I want to replace the tonearm with one with a counter weight, replace the dust cover with a glass one, and get a diamond stylus. Oh and quality speaker.
I recall many years ago dealing with ceramic cartridges just like you. In those days the magnetics were more costly and I needed a preamp. So I modified the turntable to take the best ceramic. It had two separate metal parts each had a needle, lp and 78. They would flip to the receiving mount. The unit had the best specs 0.5 V with very good channel separation. When was all done it would not match a magnetic. In those days my resources was thin as I bought a 20 stereo Amp circuit board made by phillips. I am quite surprised to see records coming back.
Great video! Got a Victrola all in one at a garage sale for $10. Cartridge needed to be replaced so I researched if there was a way to upgrade it. Found your video, found the Banpa cartridge, installed it and it works great! Sounds better than before! I have a full size turntable in my living area and used this for my office so I can listen to albums while I work from home! Thanks again and stay safe!
I just bought my first record player. I got the suitcase Victrola player and was having the same problems with skipping on certain tracks. The BP2ATC was a life saver, works perfectly! Thank you so much for this tip!
Thanks so much for this video. Literally just received my cartridge and stylus today and it is a massive improvement. My records don't skip anymore and the sound is so much clearer and crisper. Thanks again!
Thanks for the banpa cartridge tutorial! I was making a aio shelf for all my audio equip for college and having a vid on how to upgrade my old jensen needle really helped. Thanks!
Thank you for posting this. Useful info for upgrading new tables as well as repairing some old ones. Great!
This clip at 11:35 was from "It's a Wonderful Life", one of the many holiday films ever made.
Man , I enjoy your uploads.. Thank you for what you do..
I agree :)
Oh hey, you finally made a video of the Banpa! As for cheap record players I repair, I pretty much upgrade them with Banpa cartridges if it had a Crosley-type cart or an AUE cart or a Varco cart.
are there any other cartridges that would fit this player? I am hesitant to fit the Banpa or Varco as they have a narrower option of suitable styli. I would like to fit a better quality cartridge that is comparable with red clip style styli, and replace the stylus with something like the cerapreme blue as shown in the video.
These are good replacements for those old 45 record changers from the 50’s. I have a lot of fun with mine.
Hey westlife, love your vids buddy I’m glad someone finally did a video covering these awesome little cartridges, I restore turntables and have been upgrading Crosleys with these for a while now, I found them on some British boytone all in ones and tracked them down from there. They have been using them forever over there, figures the home of bsr and garrard wouldn’t stand for a record player without a flip stylus... lol.. but yes they are so much better than the cz800’s... and it’s great to see modern tt’s, with a flip stylus again,, warms my heart
The flip-over stylus came about in the 1960's. Before that, the entire cartridge flipped over to reveal the other stylus, either by turning a knob on the front or on top of the head shell.
@14:46 I found and purchased this complete boxed set after watching your video. It is pretty rare, I got very lucky mine is mint! Thank you so much for sharing some of your knowledge and collection.
That 78 shellac record sounded really good for such a record!
This is probably one of the best / most high end ways of playing these I guess...
At least common "high end" HiFi record players do not have the 78rpm motor speed
TheRailroad99 My Thorens TD-126 mk3 has 78rpm as well. That was the reason I brought it in the first place. But to be honest, loaded with an Stanton 500 and its 78rpm stylus on a 1000€ arm fluid damped, it does not sounds better than my Dual 1229 with an cheap 78 chrystal 78 saphire stylus.
The 78 sounds better than the early century acoustic 78’s from the 1910’s and 1920’s, it does play on both the turntable and on a windup acoustic phonograph.
I'm adding your link to a forum post that is the basis of me searching when I found your post. Thank you!
I did this on a Customers British Version of the "Crosley", after restoring his 1930's Radio set. His was a GPO record player and Radio. The Chuo Denshi was scrap, so I fitted a Medium output BSR SC12M Cart, with flipover stylus, it improved it massivley and actually had some bass response, but the Cart I feel is worth more than the entire set!
You can also upgrade the cartridge on a Stack-O-Matic. Even though its an AUE cartridge, it uses the same cartridge clip as the Chuo-Denshi CZ800 clones.
George: Yeah... That BSR cartridge was, for it's time, a brilliant ceramic cartridge... it was in so many music centre systems from Ferguson and Goodmans with BSR turntables, etc..... tracking at 4 grammes, and never hurt an LP played on them !
On the Daft Punk album, the recording engineer who cut the master was probably not being careful with groove spacing and audio levels. Its possible that the concentric grooves touch or even cross at the point where is skips.
No... it's because the cartridge/headshell mass is too light. If it were heavier, then with the correct amount of counter weight to balance it, it would play correctly without skipping.
The AT-LP60 had that same skipping issue on records until Audio Technica released the newer AT-LP60X version with a more dense, higher mass headshell; although it still tracked at around 3 grammes, it didn't skip any more because of the extra headshell mass....
When VWestlife added that extra small nut under the headshell, along with the larger one on the 'counterweight', that should have cured the skipping on the Daft Punk LP too. It sounded great playing the 78rpm record!
It's not a problem with the 'Daft Punk' LP... it's a problem with the playback equipment.... an AT-LP120/LP120X will not, and does not have a problem playing that LP - providing it was set-up correctly, and nor does any other mid-to high hi-fi record player.
A decent record player player is not just about spinning the record at the right speed.... The Tonearm/cartridge assembly is also vital... the mass at the cartridge end needs to be compatible with the mass of the tonearm; if one is too light, or too heavy, then performance will suffer.... the compliance of the stylus assembly is also very important here..... If it's too stiff (low compliance) then it will skip in a lower mass (weight) arm.
A higher compliance cartridge (more freely moving cantilever) will just collapse under a high mass (heavy weight arm).
It's all about getting a perfect balance with cartridge and arm.
These low cost Crosley-type players are very low mass on the tonearm, and have a light weight cartridge.... it will never hold the groove of a louder, more bass-heavy record.... as VWestife demonstrated here.
@@stevesstuff1450 He mentions that this album miss tracks on other higher-end turntables with higher-end cartridges. It is doubtful he is using poorly adjusted tracking force on those as well.
@@gary4120 : No, he's not... but if you watch some of his later videos concerning this - especially the one with the newer AT-LP60X turntable, you'll see what I was describing....the headshell/cartridge mass is too light here, and so skipping occurs.
Those other turntable he mentions that skip all have the same lightweight plastic headshell with nothing to hold the cartridge down.
With more mass on the cartridge, and the counterweight adjusted accordingly, the stylus can stay in the groove.
It's standard, simple turntable, arm, and cartridge physics....
Having replaced a thousand cartridges over the years...The best way is with a finger nail to apply pressure between the cartridge body and the pin end and lever gently - no stress on the cables. Or a small tool to replace a finger nail, but a finger nail is perfect. Putting them on with the fingers is also best, unless they are tight, in which case open the lugs up slightly with a pin/implement the right size. Great video as usual.
Edit: Getting these cheap tonearms in the right position for a finger can be a challenge mind...Use good light and put your glasses on.
Thank God I found your channel you have really help me out a great deal.
That 78 sounds pretty damn good (even if the RIAA curve is muddling the output)!
Even my 1926 Victor wind-up Victrola VV 8-4 plays fine, but it has a lot of distortion over this one when using a steel needle.
The Orthophonic soundbox has probably deteriorated over time (gaskets no longer seal, etc.). They can be rebuilt at reasonable prices ($70-80).
The 78 rpm EQ curves varied widely, with bass rolloffs from 250 to 800 Hz and 10 KHz treble boost from 0 to 16 dB (both at 6 dB/octave).
Martin Tousignant There is also 1000hz which is considered high frequencies theoretically.
1000 Hz bass rolloff is pretty rare. Victor's EQ curve from 1938-48 came fairly close to RIAA (500 Hz bass rolloff, same as RIAA; +12 dB at 10 KHz vs. +13.7 for RIAA).
I just want to say thank you for all videos you put up. I enjoy them. Have a wonderful night.
This worked like a charm on my Victrola. Thank you sir. My old Glenn Millers sound great now
His voice gives me asmr...
I like TechAltar for the same reason. I'm not sure if its asmr but it is noticeably relaxing.
One of the main reasons I'm subscribed.
I'm glad you did this video. I was hoping there would be another flip cartridge!
Fantastic quality on the 78!
A suggestion for future videos; play the bad and good side-by-side so that we don't have to seek around for the comparisons.
I added a pinned comment with time stamps for a direct comparison.
VWestlife I must have missed that, thanks for the clarification.
I love all your music. Great stuff! Thanks.
78's are surprisingly good sounding if in good shape. I've got some from the 30s that are just fantastic, and I've had some you can tell were played with a dull steel needle because they're completely trashed.
My god 78's sound great. I had no idea.
more area with less information, of course its better
Many years ago, one of my then friends got hold of a stack of old RCA 78RPM records, and to this day i have never heard anything with the same amount of dynamic range. One of the records in particular made a great impression on me, it was an acoustic jazz band recorded 'live' in the studio, and aside from some minor surface noise, the recording itself sounded just like being in the same room as the band. One thing i remember about the records themselves was that they were much thicker, perhaps even twice as thick, as regular 78s, which goes a long way to explain why they could sound that good - e.g. flexing and warping were almost nonexistent.
This is really neat to see. The sad truth is that I actually like the look of some of the Crosley units, so knowing these cartridges improve the sound that much, I would actually consider one if I ever start an album library.
Crosley is totally fine with a good stylus upgrade and speakers. Not high end, but for the price it's good. Would rather just buy a cheap 80's automatic turntable. You can get them for about 15-45€. Crosleys cost 80-120€
The retail mark up on those Crosley type players is amazing, considering they wholesale for under $40 US. Usually in minimum lots of 1000 units.
Yes splendid, that's the ticket......loyalty to the Croz!
This is amazing information. I can't thank you enough. I have a Crosley Stack-O-Matic and I love it save the crappy sounding needle and I did this...Wow! Fantastic new sound.
Now, I'm going to do this for my son's nicer Crosley suitcase and another cheaper Vinyl Styl one I have around here.
Thanks again! I love our stacker (I ignore the audiophile feelings on stackers) and you've helped me make it like brand new. Now to research replacing the built in speakers.
Thank You. This was so helpfulin making my Pyle play records better. The Pyle is just more aesthetically pleasing. It's a real statement peice. After switching to the banpa I was able to remove the taped nickel that was acting as a counterweight to prevent skipping. The sound is much better, even more than the diamond stylus. I also added a felt mat. It's wonderful for analog records, but digital records still sound so much better on the Music Hall.
thank you SO much for making this video! I'm just getting into the record scene and all i can really afford is a crosley cruiser. I only play thrifted records, but it still seems like a shame to wreck them with a bad needle. ill definitely be buying one of these!
You should see the record players they were originally played on. It's a good upgrade. But don't be embarrassed by your cruiser. I have 2 stack o matics that i love. Just enjoy the experience and hope you're enjoying the hobby
Alternatively, target sells a heydayplayer shy over 100
Anybody reading this now - spend another $20 and get an Audio Technica ATLP60 rather than a Crosley...seriously
That is a good 78. I have that same shellac along with other Johnny Messner records. He is one of my most favorite late 30s to 40s bands. My other favorite is Gray Gordon and his Tic Toc Rhythm. (Nothing to do with the Chinese app.) Kind of obscure but I like that. Never been on CD as far as I know. Thanks for the good videos.
Thanks to that Cartridge my Thriller record stopped skipping
Thank you for making this video, it helped me a lot!
Thanks for the investigation and great spotlight to details of your experiments as well as examples demonstrated!
20:50 i’ll love it! If we only could travel back in time...
Thanks for the video! I camp a lot, so i have a Numark PT-01 coming and figured i'd grab a BP2ATC off of Amazon. I'm excited to do the swap and hear how it sounds.
Great video! I've been avoiding these turntables, but will probably pick one up next time I see one at the thrift shop, just for the ability to play 78s. Adding one of these carts and a proper flip stylus should be a fun project!
Great video! Love the 60's instrumental music. Donna Reed and I agree on the Daft stuff. The Bluebird 78 sounds great! You make a great DJ at the old folks home! LOL
you have to admire his persistence with trying to find a cheap record player that's able to play daft punk without skipping and ask for that 78 record while I haven't got that song out my head now
Thank you for this video. I've recently started getting back into vinyl and bought a very cool looking but inexpensive record player. I thought it was broken the bass was so non existent. Even through a fairly expensive pair of Edifier speakers with bass cranked it sounded horrible.
I bought the cartidge you recommended and being a guitar player it was like finding the "tone". It's not quite as bass'y as I would like but boy is it better. I can enjoy the music. I cannot imagine anything with a better bang for the buck.
So thank againt. Your video made this possible for me.
Thank you! My lil Crosley has been playing great!
Lovely quality IS available from 78 RPM discs. Nice to hear. The finest readily available discs will be 45 RPM microgroove 12 inch discs. If you want to hear earth moving bass and dynamics to lift buildings, the 12 inch 45 can manage it. Microgroove has benefit as does the faster scanning speed and the low distortion and easier mastering of the 12 inch allowing for big amplitude widely spaced grooves = often amazing. Specs are hard to find but the back of an envelope calcs seem to say multiply quality by 2.6 as an average over 33.33 - Bass and dynamics x 5.
45 is a good balance between scanning speed and .flutter and mechanical noise introduced by spinning a mass produced disc at higher speeds.
Great video as usual.
I am following all this with great interest.
Over in the Facebook groups I was having discussions about these cartridges and styli when they first appeared.
But my reason for comment is the mono stereo switch adapter.
I have one just like yours as does a friend. I believe they came as an accessory with early portable battery powered VCRs you hooked a camera up to, in the days just before the first VHS camcorders. It plugged into the headphone/line out jack when you had it connected at home to the tuner/timer unit so you could feed audio to your early home theater system in the late 1980s !
Great sound with the upgrade, particularly that 78 !
That stereo/mono switch cable was an accessory with (at least) a Panasonic PV-6000 portable VHS deck. (We had one with the PV-A600 Tuner, for use with our Panasonic video camera.) It had a few adapters, including that stereo/mono switch cable, and a few other cables. That one might have attenuation in it it too... i remember one of the cables did.
Cheers on another great vid! :D
The cartridges that It can immediately upgrade are the following:
-Chuo Denshi CZ-800 (Pfanstiehl P-188 and clones)
-AUE CP-38S/CP-40S (Pfanstiehl P-189)
-Varco TN4/Chuo Denshi CZ-680 (Pfansitehl P-226/P-187)
Nice video! I will try those ideas with my - somewhat old - Crosley CR83. Thank You!!
The old cart really had a hollow sound to it. You can tell in the bells during the first song. Quite an improvement with the Banpa one.
Just ordered one for my ION Audio Premiere LP. Upgraded the stylus a year ago but it's time to do the same for the cartridge. Great review.
The BSR stylus also comes with twin LP stylus, way back in time when we bought a record player it came with a 78 rpm/LP saphire stylus which when replaced people without 78rpm records bought a double LP diamond stylus [I still have an original ST10 & ST 12 ]
Wow, the new cartridge sounds a lot more clear and precise!
This video is very helpful! Thanks for the insight!
Appreciate the info in this video. Brings back memories of my yooth....
My in-laws could certainly use that cartridge for their all-in-one Victrola since they started using one recently. How you make a 78 sound that good and with that little surface noise is amazing! The only 78 I have with virtually no surface noise when I play it on my SL-1210GR/MP-78 is Gene Autry's Frosty The Snow Man / When Santa Claus Gets Your Letter from 1950 and of course the MP-110 is a stereo cartridge as well.
My Craig record player I know has the same cartridge. So im sure it will work for mine too then . good video as always . Plus informative for ugrades on these record players.
What a cute song there at the end. Would be perfect for a valentines day greeting card.
Thank you for playing your 78 refreshing.
🎶 Oh we must have one more 💋💋 before we say goodnight 🎶 It's a catchy song :)
That 78 sounded awesome!
God bless brother
The 78rpm play was a treat, thx.
Those 78s sound awesome! I would so I had some and I wish my At-lp60 could play them!
Made a big difference! Thanks for your advice
At last. This is what they should have fitted to all those Crap-o-phones from new. Good to see it accepts the ST17 BSR stylii too. Very useful to know. In an emergency one could replace a dud SC12H cartridge with this too. Thanks for a most useful upload :-)
Great video!! Interesting to hear the differences! My mum has one of those vintage looking record players (UK make mind) - btw I'm loving that We must have one more Kiss Kiss - shame it's not available online !!
Oddly, I've been thinking to myself about why no one ever thought of doing something like this to begin with (since the beginning of the 'vinyl revival', at any rate) a LOT sooner rather than right now........... I guess we're way better off late than never.
I know it’s been 2 years, but thank you... my Byron Studios suitcase is in much need of an upgrade!
This video is exactly what I have been looking for. I got a couple record players, one as a gift from family and one that I found at a thrift store very cheap and both take the same crappy ceramic cartridge. Putting in an order for this Banpa now as it seems to sound exactly like what I'm aiming for. The old style doesn't have the highs and clarity, the Banpa seems crisp.
Thanks for the great vid, man!
Wow the 78! Sounds amazing! Compare to other 78's, recording on UA-cam. Very cool!
The new cartridge plays the high end much clearer. I never had a 78 needle, for years, when I did, I had no 78s. When I had 78s I had no needle so I never heard them properly. Very impressive
Wow, the 78 does sound good!!!
The post-war hi-fi revolution actually began with 78's. That's where RCA first developed its New Orthophonic Hi-fi sound.
Excellent video!
the separation on the chui denshe is amazing
Gonna upgrade my Crosley now. Thanks Vwestlife!
Instead of a nut you should have glued a bolt to the end, then you could have used a nut as an adjustable counter weight..
Very useful and entertaining. I am restoring some 60s stereo consoles (1 with tubes, 2 solid state) and need all the info I can find on improving them. Thanks.
Did you have any luck with one of these on an older record player? I have a portable one, a Philips AG9148 from 1959. It has an AG3302 cartridge and styli, especially the 78 RPM styli, are hard to come by and I can't even begin to fathom how to install them ´
so I've been looking for alternatives.
worked on my Crosley cruiser. sounds much better! I play old 78s so its nice to know I'm now breaking my needle or records.
Thanks for making this video.
Wonderful, educational. Just kick ass !
Thanks for the video! I have a Numark PT-01 with the same Chuo Denshi cartridge I'd like to replace.
this 78 rpm sounds amazing !!!
Fantastic video vwestlife. I have seen for sale a 7 in one hi fi by Zennox (some are sold by stepletone) - if one comes up for a good price it might be good for the parents to enjoy all the formats. I would definitely get the 78 flip over cartridge and stylus for it
In the 1970's that was a cartridge called a "Tetrad", believe me that for sound reproduction, weight, tracking they were the best! I loved them! They played 78's flawlessly,then flipped over they play 45's, and 33's I liked them much more than even magnetic. Believe me I am totally critical, and picky about phono needles. The Astatic T81 is really fabulous, but kinda heavy.
Yay long live the 78.
And the Victor Victrola.
I just love the flip over function of changing from 78 to LP I should get this for my record player since I have a lot of 78s and LPs and this adds the convenience instead of physically changing the cartridge just to play different types of records. Plus I could get the 78 cartridge to fit right in my record player.
I mean I could not get the 78 cartridge to fit right.
Loved that clip of Donna Reed
That easy listening record sounded pretty good!
Thank you! Saved my life!
So happy to see another video from you. Why did it take you so long?
waiting for my cartridge to arrive after accidently buying a crosley cruiser deluxe xD (first time buyer i have learnt a lesson lol) but while i wait to save for a better one i really hope this cartridge helps me listen to my maiden album lol - thanks for the upload very informative :D
i love your work man cheers
Question: @ 3:54 will this stylus fit a vestal handytrax or other turntablist 7" players? cheers
Yes.
@@vwestlife brilliant! thanks so much for taking the time to get back to me too man
The built in preset "antiskate" may easily be off making it just prone enough to skip that it wont play this particular track. Love the fact you gave a thorough trial and error effort, I like trying to tinker with things like this and look for improvements even if its just for the fun of it.
A late comment LOL:
Put a 10 gram stick-on wheel weight on the arse end of the arm, that gets the Crosleys down to just over 4G - the CZ800 is rated at 4-6G. Diamond vs sapphire doesn't make any sonic or wear difference - but most report that the rubber mounted aluminum shank vs all-plastic does affect sound. Sapphire should be replaced every 300 side plays (100 hours), diamond is good for 1500 side plays (500 hours)