Why I Dropped Out of My Computer Science Degree

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  • @TechWithTim
    @TechWithTim  5 місяців тому +9

    If you want to land a developer job check out my program with CourseCareers: techwithtim.net/dev

    • @code101hub
      @code101hub 5 місяців тому

      hi

    • @gamingsama2
      @gamingsama2 5 місяців тому

      Is it pre recorded videos or face to face online education?

    • @TechWithTim
      @TechWithTim  5 місяців тому +3

      @@gamingsama2pre recorded but there are help channels and coaches

    • @lycan2494
      @lycan2494 5 місяців тому +2

      @@TechWithTim but what if i dont get a job? wouldnt my money be wasted

    • @gabe_0x
      @gabe_0x 5 місяців тому

      @@lycan2494 this is exactly why you don't sign up for shit like CourseCareers. These are traps designed to get you to spend your money while they provide the cheapest "minimum-viable product" to "train" people on. Do not trust anything like these, and never trust anyone on social media.

  • @michaelevan9184
    @michaelevan9184 5 місяців тому +41

    You can always finish ... I'm 62 and half way thru an MS in Computer Science at University of Massachusetts. I'm retired from health care with multiple degrees. 2 associates a BS and Master in Nurse Anesthesia. You're never too old or too young to finish ... it's a personal choice and decision. I don't even plan on working for anyone.... just doing it for my own personal mental stimulation, challenge and enjoyment. You have to do what's best for you.
    My suggestion though, if you're close to finishing your degree, it wouldn't hurt to complete it. You're young, and you never know what life will throw you in the future. That shingle on the wall just might come in handy someday.

    • @sidd8087
      @sidd8087 5 місяців тому +8

      you have a great personality sir , hats off

    • @georgeavong4937
      @georgeavong4937 3 місяці тому +2

      @@sidd8087I totally agree

  • @Juzzyjuzzy
    @Juzzyjuzzy 5 місяців тому +77

    Hey guys. Finish your degree. You might not end up being a software developer forever, and that degree opens doors to other career opportunities especially in regulated industries or research-intensive sectors. It’s tough - but it’s worth the effort.

    • @type-dev
      @type-dev 5 місяців тому +2

      People look for practical skills in the software career. I don’t think a degree is worth it.

    • @charlieinslidell
      @charlieinslidell 5 місяців тому +3

      There UA-cam videos of MIT and Harvard lectures on computer science and programming. There are enough resources to learn from that for those who cannot afford the money and time costs of getting a degree, this is a viable alternative as long as you can work on your own with good discipline and keep on top of your skills.

    • @moosanaseer2573
      @moosanaseer2573 5 місяців тому +4

      @@type-dev If the degree is not worth it, then why cannot a person go abroad without a degree? Why cannot a person do Masters or Phd with a degree? Skills do matter, but skills with degree will make you successful

    • @moosanaseer2573
      @moosanaseer2573 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Mr8thwonderofthewrld If thats the case then do Masters without a degree. Try getting a good job without a degree! Just say that you dont wanna study CS, end of story

    • @ajaychimnani7985
      @ajaychimnani7985 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Mr8thwonderofthewrldrather focus on both

  • @allt6590
    @allt6590 5 місяців тому +54

    If you can finish your degree, it demonstrates discipline to start and finish something in a formal environment

    • @TheRealCaptainMcFly
      @TheRealCaptainMcFly 5 місяців тому +1

      nope

    • @adegbitekelvin3875
      @adegbitekelvin3875 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@TheRealCaptainMcFly your opinion

    • @tcgvsocg1458
      @tcgvsocg1458 4 місяці тому

      any one have issues :D

    • @lebomcdonald5241
      @lebomcdonald5241 4 місяці тому

      So if you're forced by parents to finish e.g doctor degree,yet at work you're miserable,you treat patients quite awful,bcos you're passionate about being an artist & you're great at it,does that discipline matter in the cost of awfully treating patients bcos you were forced to do it

  • @jeffwads
    @jeffwads 5 місяців тому +29

    Computer Science in college is so far behind the ball it is pretty useless.

    • @fear809
      @fear809 5 місяців тому +6

      On average or bad uni it's bad, but on top it's literally a cheat code

    • @raybod1775
      @raybod1775 5 місяців тому +9

      Honestly, a degree is part of the vetting process to get more opportunities. If you can make it on your own, it doesn’t make any financial difference.

    • @rogimx
      @rogimx 5 місяців тому +5

      I really don't get this argument. The fundamental CS knowledge we use today to create our tools is pretty much the same that was used 50 years ago. Have you heard about SQL, JAVA, Algorithms? Yeah, nothing is new. CS will teach you what you need, nothing more

    • @alst4817
      @alst4817 4 місяці тому

      You’re completely misunderstanding what a university degree is. It’s academic, that’s different to working for a company. Don’t forget that without those academics you distain, computers wouldn’t exist at all.

  • @ayanjawaid2251
    @ayanjawaid2251 5 місяців тому +33

    module 1: Introduction to Tim....😂

  • @sidd8087
    @sidd8087 5 місяців тому +4

    been following this channel since 2020 , your content is absolute treasure for self learners like yourself out there !

  • @NastaranMehrAra
    @NastaranMehrAra 3 місяці тому +1

    Tim thank you from the bottom of my heart because your videos motivate me. Good luck

  • @georg2478
    @georg2478 5 місяців тому +8

    you're still young enough to finish bachelor even now, creating an additional opportunity for some unforeseen reasons, it's probably worth it. Great thoughts all together. 👍👏

  • @ezekielakpan3913
    @ezekielakpan3913 5 місяців тому +2

    You’re good at what you do and that’s what matters. Hopefully we all get there some day❤

  • @sabzchetty
    @sabzchetty 4 місяці тому +1

    I left my CS degree after 1 semester. I landed a well paying job and my career took off due to real world projects and experience, HOWEVER it bothers me a-lot and I’m going back to do it just for me.

  • @kudrah
    @kudrah 4 місяці тому

    Don't worry about it mate. You came to this world onw your own and yu will leave on your own. The most important thing is making an impact and leaving a positive legacy.

  • @kingdomVI
    @kingdomVI 4 місяці тому +1

    Yah this dude is legit 1 in 100. I suggest you try to get your degree if you somehow get a job and all stuff goes good from there then yah you can pick your options, but a degree is highly important to employers. That an addition of projects, even a bootcamp extra. Currently is extremely hard to be given an opportunity after 2020 is gotten worse and there was a spike in 2021 with a massive crash and is still low on job properity.

  • @dipakbe
    @dipakbe 5 місяців тому +1

    Yet you remain an exceptional teacher ❤
    Tim the Best

  • @Mokhtar22278
    @Mokhtar22278 5 місяців тому +3

    But that's life Tim, No one takes everything.

  • @Al_Miqdad_
    @Al_Miqdad_ 5 місяців тому +1

    good job
    you are helping people this is a big advantage ❤

  • @__-se3tf
    @__-se3tf 5 місяців тому

    And this is why Tim is the GOAT! Great video updating your views (even if only slightly) and sharing your story. You are an inspiration!

    • @buuzy252
      @buuzy252 2 місяці тому

      video* can you correct that?

  • @patrickprucha5522
    @patrickprucha5522 5 місяців тому

    Excellent video. Very valid points you make! I think in the end its all about your happiness. Cheers and good luck!

  • @blazzz13
    @blazzz13 4 місяці тому

    What's crazy is that here in the UK you can do that Computer Science degree in 2 years on an accelerated course. I think it was very mature of Tim to make these decisions at 21- when I was 21 I didn't have life figured out in the slightest. All worked out in the end so happy days

    • @alst4817
      @alst4817 4 місяці тому

      You mean England, not the UK…

  • @광광이-i9t
    @광광이-i9t 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing your experience

  • @cjacoby75
    @cjacoby75 5 місяців тому

    Good, balanced information!

  • @crazyparrot2786
    @crazyparrot2786 5 місяців тому

    Love you Tim! You are a huge inspiration for me!

  • @kimeg7294
    @kimeg7294 5 місяців тому +3

    You would need a degree to enter the industry if you don't have portfolio nor exp. How do they measure your portfolio? Depends on A, B, C, and countless other factors depending on many other random factors. To be safe, having a degree will make your life so much easier.

    • @avg_user-dd2yb
      @avg_user-dd2yb 4 місяці тому

      But it's just a piece of paper.

    • @kimeg7294
      @kimeg7294 4 місяці тому +1

      @@avg_user-dd2yb sounds like you've never worked before

    • @avg_user-dd2yb
      @avg_user-dd2yb 4 місяці тому

      @@kimeg7294 I am working in my mom's basement what about you?

  • @gedeonchrist5645
    @gedeonchrist5645 5 місяців тому

    Hi bro.
    You are feeling exactly how I am feeling these days.
    But, one thing for usre: There is a high chance we might somehow just decide to go and finish it off.

  • @tryingtobebetterr
    @tryingtobebetterr 5 місяців тому

    Guys, keep in mind that Tim has been a programmer since teenage years, at least. He is obviously not motivating anyone to follow his steps but even if you do decide to follow his path, make sure you are damn good at demonstrating your skills or you are sure you can spend 1 year and learn more than you will learn in 2 or 3 remaining years at university. University mostly keeps you disciplined and bound to do things so weigh in the time spent and gain acquired and decide what works for you.

  • @johnnytoobad7785
    @johnnytoobad7785 4 місяці тому

    I dropped out of "EE" school from a major US University in 1977 and had a 20+ year career as a "software engineer" for various large companies.
    Back then it wasn't that hard to do. I WAS also able to "demonstrate my skills" and my first "boss" was a *GREAT* mentor.
    Your first "boss" is the most important...😉

  • @tcgvsocg1458
    @tcgvsocg1458 4 місяці тому

    thx a lot for al the video in 10 last years

  • @siriyketechnologylimited6964
    @siriyketechnologylimited6964 5 місяців тому

    Great respect Brother

  • @rhettsmedia
    @rhettsmedia 5 місяців тому +2

    After working as a software engineer for 20 years, I went back and got my masters so that I would be qualified to be a Director or vice president two years later I was a I was a VP of technology without the masters I would never have been able to get that so yeah you might wanna go back and get your degree

  • @nachoeigu
    @nachoeigu 5 місяців тому +4

    My humble suggestion to you: whenever you have any time, try to finish it. Obviously it wouldnt change anything but I think it is something very special for anyone who spent time learning, and could open doors to you. Anyway, your decision was great and you are an inspiration for a lot of people 😃

  • @alex.projects1400
    @alex.projects1400 5 місяців тому +1

    Well, I'm working as German Aircraft Engineer, without exactly being an Engineer (cause Germany do have similar things). I'm doing 70% Mechanic, 30% Electric work. Now I'm trying to start a Electric Engineer degree (which is 50% programming). I'll miss a lot of money, but I have the feeling that I'll miss the degree in the future. I'm already sure to not have a better salary. Its just to add the knowledge and have the official title. I can change my projects / Aircrafts to wherever I want in the current company. But It's more problematic to change to other companies which do damand a degree.

    • @buuzy252
      @buuzy252 2 місяці тому

      Germany has pretty affordable education doesn’t it? Or free for what I heard

  • @gamingsama2
    @gamingsama2 5 місяців тому +2

    It's funny that this video came to me suddenly because I decided three days ago to leave college because I felt that the education there was not helping me build useful skills, so I decided to start a different path and learn from home through courses on Udemy and other sites on the Internet, and I would like to know your opinion on this. I was studying IT specialization in college, by the way.

  • @xenophone2006
    @xenophone2006 5 місяців тому

    Only things a degree is good for is getting that first job and getting through the automated resume culling. You've already done it, with your experience you don't have to worry unless you're trying to get a teaching job.

    • @maroon9273
      @maroon9273 5 місяців тому

      Also, getting management and leader role based jobs as well.

  • @carzetonao
    @carzetonao 3 місяці тому

    I regret i did not have such insights when I was in university. I wasted too much time

  • @ScottyMcCraigles
    @ScottyMcCraigles 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing Tim! I have a BSc Remote Sensing degree, but am trying to branch into the software engineer and data science space. It seems very difficult without a degree, but I am taking some online courses in hopes that helps

  • @yisuslalala
    @yisuslalala 5 місяців тому

    This is where begins, the college dropout by Tim 🐐

  • @JamesBloomfield-ed4tm
    @JamesBloomfield-ed4tm 4 місяці тому

    Great video as always Tim. I'm working towards a Computing and IT degree. I was skeptical at first however I think discipline and getting that qualification will be helpful. 👍👍

  • @AlexBall03
    @AlexBall03 5 місяців тому

    Great video!
    I am currently in college, specifically Western Governors University. I am pursuing a B.S. Software Engineering degree. Honestly at this point, I do think, generally speaking, that a degree isn’t really necessary to get into the field; seeing you can be self taught and succeed just fine. But if you have an opportunity where school is either heavily discounted (or even free like in my case), then I do recommend taking that opportunity. Because even though it’s not necessarily to get into the field, it does give you somewhat of an advantage and teaches you many valuable skills, as long as you take it seriously.
    One of the big downsides of college is the debt that it puts you in!

  • @moosanaseer2573
    @moosanaseer2573 5 місяців тому

    Come on everyone finish your computer science degree because its important. If you guys dont want to complete your degree then it means that you people are no longer interested in computer science, then its better to change your degree because this field requires dedication and hardwork till the end. Without a CS degree, there are no chances for further betterment. Not everyone is lucky enough like Tim, it took him months to get to this point and yet he regrets his past because he does not have a CS degree. Wakeup to reality everyone!

  • @Akriti-at22
    @Akriti-at22 4 місяці тому

    That's very nice, I love how you explain those things, also you look very cute❣

  • @ruantristancarlinsky3851
    @ruantristancarlinsky3851 4 місяці тому

    Always better to have than to not have.

  • @gecsus
    @gecsus 4 місяці тому

    the key about being in a room with PHDs and such is that they were there to give lectures AND... SO WERE YOU! I worked with several PHD's and they told me "it's what you produce that matters". it's not the paper trail that counts. I always included on my resume's how much money i made my last employer or how I educed cost and improved high quality output. I have no degrees other than I can get the Job Done on time and under budget. Got me several positions as Department Head of Engineering and in R&D working with the top PHDs in the company.
    Employers hire people for one purpose... to make them money.

  • @campagnollo
    @campagnollo 5 місяців тому +2

    Tim, CompSci grad with some years of experience, but trying to figure out how to develop on my own. When I'm at work, I might see something like a manual process and by initiative write code to make the process run faster and more efficiently. However, on my own time, I have a hard time trying to come up with ideas for a new app or a database, AWS infrastructure etc. This area I would like to improve so I can add more stuff to my github to prove my worth. How do you do it?

  • @HyperBeamXYT
    @HyperBeamXYT 5 місяців тому

    I can definitely agree that a degree and stuff like that like qualifiications in fact consist stuff that u wouldn't use all time but to an extend are broad which I think gives u deeper understand of CS and programming and not what it is in itself but also it's purpose...the way I see this is knowledge which is hard to use but if u learn to use you are smart with it or smthing because then you really can make what u want with it...I also see it as a way they discipline you is something I would consider as training so that u can learn to work by yourself (although I have had to learn that seperately)
    Also man if you are reading this it would be great to have your personal contact so I can get help with you (dw I will try to not ask too often or smthing lol)

  • @alvinlim86
    @alvinlim86 5 місяців тому +2

    I have a PhD in Chemical Engineering from Singapore, and was dabbling in data science. Your channel helped immensely.
    It's true on what you said that Singapore requires some degree for the employment pass (EP),
    but there are cases where candidates without degree-equivalent qualifications can still pass the COMPASS criteria under EP scheme.

  • @rayenebacha1078
    @rayenebacha1078 4 місяці тому

    Hey Tim!
    Well i just finished high school in Tunisia a country in north Africa and i am planning to get a CS degree for 2 actual reasons : first bcuz i am in the process to moving to germany and do my bachelor maybe my masters out there which serves my dreams of travelling the world and living in country with a decent life quality
    Also i feel like my parents especially my father won't accept my decision and are more likely to feel concerned and unsafe for my career path and my professional life.

  • @SSJwalker
    @SSJwalker 5 місяців тому +1

    You can do it part time bro. Im sure you can finish it.

  • @michellegill1278
    @michellegill1278 4 місяці тому

    Tim instead of doing a straight computer science degree do a minor in Education and a major in Computer Science. You can also consider other minors like Digital Media with the Compiter Science or other Humanities Courses with the Computer Science.

  • @JorgeEscobarMX
    @JorgeEscobarMX 5 місяців тому

    I dropped out in 2008, today my company is asking me to get a visa to travel to hq in detroid. So a major degree would be useful for it. But other than that, not worth it.

  • @bbuggediffy
    @bbuggediffy 5 місяців тому +4

    Finish your bachelors people, or do another if you hate the one you chose

  • @raybod1775
    @raybod1775 5 місяців тому

    Everything has changed in programming because of AI. What we learned years ago can help a bit. In my retirement, wish I finished my degree, but I’m very well off. It’s not about the money.

  • @How2Hashpaah
    @How2Hashpaah 5 місяців тому +1

    Tim, you listed the reasons to get a degree. There is no reason for you to be blocked from any possible opportunities, just because of something you did not finish. Find an online program that is self study and self-paced. I am willing to bet that you could take a break from your daily activities, and finish your degree in a couple of intensive weeks. At this point, for you now, it is a hoop you can jump through, or choose not to. The door to completing a degree is never closed, but the sooner the better. Your future is so bright already! Thank you for all you do!

  • @4115steve
    @4115steve 5 місяців тому

    I don't go to school because it costs to much and requires you to do it full time. I probably should, but I'm content with not going and accepting the consequences. I prefer learning what I choose and when. Schools and certificates make money when students fail, it's unethical and creates an atmosphere where it's more about money than the student's knowledge.

  • @robel_asefa
    @robel_asefa 5 місяців тому

    Very beneficial

  • @shindoxxx
    @shindoxxx 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm kind of anti college, however I'm doing a Computer Engineering degree for immigration purposes. You are one of the top drop outs man, I hope you won't ever need the degree. I think soon even more people will admit that the traditional college education is outdated. If you don't need to prove yourself to someone else then why would you ever need the degree?

  • @tengdayz2
    @tengdayz2 5 місяців тому

    I bet you already figured out what you need to do.

  • @Tech-ee4bq
    @Tech-ee4bq 4 місяці тому

    I got my associates degree in 2009 huge waste…everything I learned I could’ve learned elsewhere or UA-cam and literally no one has asked about my degree in top of that except my 1st job which was help desk at Att right after college

  • @jyounder
    @jyounder 4 місяці тому

    Hi, Tim, Nice office.. There are services in the US that will equate your experience with a particular degree when applying for a visa. A good layer will help you out with that.

  • @TaproomCoach
    @TaproomCoach 5 місяців тому

    The same people that give you imposter syndrome have imposter syndrome when they recognize all the work you put out on UA-cam.

  • @illia4228
    @illia4228 5 місяців тому

    I finished an Information Technology degree only to realize it is not about software development lmao

  • @buuzy252
    @buuzy252 2 місяці тому

    How can I build my resume without a degree and without previous working experience as a developer?

  • @andgoedu
    @andgoedu 5 місяців тому

    CS Degrees suck, some universities even still use a pen and papper for most their exams in CS even if youre a senior , like why ?

    • @shindoxxx
      @shindoxxx 5 місяців тому

      Yeah mine is like that. When you need to edit the code on paper you need to erase everything that's the worst part.

    • @moosanaseer2573
      @moosanaseer2573 5 місяців тому +1

      Then dont study CS if you want to say all this!

    • @andgoedu
      @andgoedu 5 місяців тому

      @@moosanaseer2573 I am glad i didnt i took courses , maybe in other countries there is actual technical trainning , however in my case there is not mostly is just pen and papper.

  • @Yara-lb8qc
    @Yara-lb8qc 5 місяців тому

    I’m a 21 my last semester start tomorrow and honestly TERRIFIED because all of my studies not based on real life things and I feel like I waste a lottttttttt of TIME then I kept thinking WHY I didn’t thought of any specialty field any sooner?i should blame myself for that…. in the last months in my summer break I start (or at least Ik) that I have so much interest at cyber security and networking topics even tho I don’t really know if computer sciences even for me but at least there’s something feels more achievable
    as a start I join a Cisco course at junior cybersecurity analyst and finish only 1 of 6
    I tried a virtual training job for cybersecurity analyst and I really like it but left so confused about how much things are different at real life
    Also I’m thinking to keep studying and get a master or diploma degree at cybersecurity
    I don’t know from where to start pls if anyone have recommendations tips advice

  • @ServetTonga
    @ServetTonga 5 місяців тому +3

    A degree or even student status is needed to get the first job/internship.

  • @JC-fd8ho
    @JC-fd8ho 5 місяців тому +1

    hey tim how would u get a job without a degree if companies require it , how would you show them your skills and that your qualified for the job if they don't look at your cv because you don't have a degree is possible to get a software job without a degree in america ?

  • @robertdreyfus5436
    @robertdreyfus5436 4 місяці тому +1

    How about another video: Why I dropped 'The Rust Tutorial' series after nine videos. 🤡🤡🤡

  • @Daniel_code1
    @Daniel_code1 5 місяців тому

    How long did it take you to learn programming

  • @SSJwalker
    @SSJwalker 5 місяців тому

    Come Singapore! I work here bro

  • @DeanHorak
    @DeanHorak 5 місяців тому

    I was in a similar situation, only about 45 years ago. I started working as a software developer while going to school in 1977.
    I made it to my junior year
    working on a computer science degree while working as a developer and as a mainframe systems programmer at the time and didn’t have the bandwidth to do everything so I stopped taking classes and focused on my career. I have been doing development ever since.
    It’s hard to say how many times my résumé was passed up because I did not have a complete degree, but I can say I never had a problem getting a job and have remained gainfully employed, or as an independent contractor ever since.
    I will say that perhaps not having a degree made me try harder than the guys with degrees - I always felt I had to not just compete with them, but outperform them in every way - as you say, a bit of imposter syndrome.

  • @jenex5608
    @jenex5608 5 місяців тому

    I would consider going to WGU

  • @gatomas805
    @gatomas805 4 місяці тому

    College is overrated and a joke! I've been a software engineer for 24+ years. I only use data structures. Professors from college are jokes especially if they have tenure. They don't teach well and they don't care about the students. Ok, not all, but a majority of them. College will drain your pockets and put you in debt then when you graduate and find a job on your own, they call to see if you want to donate to the college. The people who call you will try and guilt you by asking "didn't you get good education from our college?" HELL NO!

  • @ritik0706
    @ritik0706 5 місяців тому

    Can we get a jab without going to college?
    With self study and companies hire these people?

  • @Cueteman
    @Cueteman 5 місяців тому

    Maybe you’ll go back in your sixties.

  • @ji-wonseong1623
    @ji-wonseong1623 4 місяці тому

    I wish I never stepped a foot in college as a whole. I had problems and needed to learn independence first. Stupid asian parents didn't let me develop basic social skills and controlled everything. Result? No internships or jobs.

  • @ajinkya3.14
    @ajinkya3.14 5 місяців тому

    Hi Tim

  • @M0J0-RL236
    @M0J0-RL236 4 місяці тому

    Finish your degree. You will NOT be the next rich youtuber, you will be an average employee hopefully still in the tech world.
    Some folks like Tim and another famous person in the music industry that I went to school with are certainly encumbered with the efforts and time spent in university when they already have a profitable business.
    You are not that person, so finish your degree

  • @Lukey-i4v
    @Lukey-i4v 5 місяців тому

    wish i could work with you
    lol

  • @rverm1000
    @rverm1000 4 місяці тому

    Your just lucky.

  • @chenithapeduruarachchi3013
    @chenithapeduruarachchi3013 5 місяців тому

    Hey Tech with Tim bro can you please pin me

  • @Dani-fc4tc
    @Dani-fc4tc 5 місяців тому

    damn

  • @code101hub
    @code101hub 5 місяців тому

    yoo

  • @cosmicman00
    @cosmicman00 5 місяців тому

    Second

  • @code101hub
    @code101hub 5 місяців тому

    first

  • @GaBoyInKy
    @GaBoyInKy 4 місяці тому

    Lest not we forget those that dropped out or don't have degrees. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, just to name a few.

  • @JoshuaShaoMutao
    @JoshuaShaoMutao 5 місяців тому +1

    ello

  • @akrithisd757
    @akrithisd757 4 місяці тому

    That's a great story🩵😮I wish I could be a good software developer with a degree, an also, you are a great trainer.