David Tried It All for Long Covid: The Surprising Approach That Worked

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  • @RaelanAgle
    @RaelanAgle  2 місяці тому +1

    STRUGGLING WITH LONG VIDEOS?
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  • @donnaodonoghue6058
    @donnaodonoghue6058 13 днів тому +1

    I will be very grateful when I recover.

  • @hannap2103
    @hannap2103 2 місяці тому +12

    It doesn't matter if you are a king or a beggar, sick or healthy. Life is an inner Journey. My big life lesson is to learn how to love my self. I never thought about these things before I got sick. Everything happens for a reason. There is a much bigger picture to life. I am now able to tap in to these things . I Thank my cfs for this gift. ❤

  • @sanjanavinayaka2711
    @sanjanavinayaka2711 Місяць тому +1

    I can relate so much with you David. I feel every bit of your tears. Thank you so much for sharing your story. It’s inspiring.

  • @ellenalden-mind-body-healing
    @ellenalden-mind-body-healing 2 місяці тому +4

    Thank you David, for articulating your experience so well-especially how the Bhuddist principles applied to your recovery. I resonate with your story. When everything I thought was “me” was stripped away during my 2.5 years with Long COVID, I discovered what I was left with was my true essence which included love, joy, happiness and peace. I never would have realized this unless I was knocked down and forced to turn inward. The inner work allowed me to face my fears and shift my beliefs and how I viewed the world. I 100% agree with the Recovery tips: breathwork, meditation, visualizing health, mindset and brain retraining!! Namaste

  • @jackiegroden416
    @jackiegroden416 2 місяці тому +4

    Oh Raelan and David this interview was wonderful… so much wisdom and such a calming gentle way he is telling us his journey

  • @gtessgossage3867
    @gtessgossage3867 2 місяці тому +16

    Hello neighbor, I'm also Buddhist. Have long covid from vaccine.

  • @darrend2035
    @darrend2035 2 місяці тому +4

    Omg !! This was so powerful , raw and just amazingly well said
    He did not hold back and when he was talking about the behavior , he explained me to a T !!!

  • @fayelogsdon-heywood2472
    @fayelogsdon-heywood2472 2 місяці тому +3

    Fabulous perception, down to earth and extremely helpful. This interview has given me food for thought and hope for recovery.

  • @MariaSotiropoulou88
    @MariaSotiropoulou88 2 місяці тому +2

    I found Buddhism and particularly the teachings of Thich Nhat Hanh when I was in my recovery journey from LC and other things. I couldn't have asked for a better gift, not only for myself but also for my family. It really helped me detoxify my mind, body and soul in ways that I couldn't imagine. Thank you both so much 🙏

  • @michellemoore9030
    @michellemoore9030 2 місяці тому +2

    I agree about self compassion. I have had to learn that through this journey. I’ve had to learn to say no without guilt. And literally start loving myself. Before I was go, go, go and never cared about my own well being. Everyone just thought I was ‘strong’. So I did everything for everyone else, shoving my feelings and needs down. Huge lesson learned. I am becoming a different person. ❤

  • @IronicUseOfElectrons
    @IronicUseOfElectrons 2 місяці тому +3

    Wim Hofs slow versions that he has on youtube helped me tremendously, the regular speed versions made me feel worse though.

  • @JulenneEsquincaTapia
    @JulenneEsquincaTapia 2 місяці тому +1

    It's great to hear a Buddhist brother

  • @SkylerDuke-ww4nw
    @SkylerDuke-ww4nw 2 місяці тому +6

    So interesting that Wim Hoff breathing and cold exposure helped him. Cold exposure and hyperventilation always throws me into a crash. Buteyko breathing has helped me

    • @deelicious1610
      @deelicious1610 2 місяці тому +2

      Same here!!

    • @davec3568
      @davec3568 2 місяці тому

      Buteyko and other calming breathing techniques are great, and help shift your normal breathing to something more calming. Fight or flight response changes the way we breath and we do need to change it back to normal. Win Hoff breathing is something to do briefly to act as a sort of reset for your body's systems. The super-oxygenation and pH shift resulting from it can be helpful to regulate the nervous and immune systems.

  • @robsonf6683
    @robsonf6683 2 місяці тому +3

    I was healthy as a 20 year old now had long covid for over 2 years. I've tried everything. I have to do physical work and can't survive on disability. I hate my life

  • @lianpeet3502
    @lianpeet3502 2 місяці тому +2

    Oh, I loved this so much. Not the suffering, obviously, but the discussions you two had were about me! Christianity also has some of those tenets of self-compassion, identity, gratitude, mindfulness & meditation, doing to others as you would have them do to you and treating yourself with the same kindness as someone made in the image of God, not a victim, etc. Thanks, you two, got lots out of this x

  • @AnrupB
    @AnrupB 2 місяці тому +2

    I had the same and more symptoms, really relate! Buddhism has been in my life for years prior to LC, but I really dove into it over time during my recovery. Combined with tarot all with the focus of self growth, Buddhism and participating in group teachings and meditations run by Buddhist monks has been very helpful. To hear someone talking about karma!! Omg it makes my heart feel so understood and someone to relate to!! Sending him so much love and gratitude for his willingness to be honest and vulnerable. ❤🙏🏼 The yogic breathwork is rooted in all modern breathing exercises, which is called pranayama.

  • @QuintEssential-sz2wn
    @QuintEssential-sz2wn 2 місяці тому +5

    I am a huge fan of Raelan’s videos and guests. Though as somebody trying to recover from very debilitating long Covid, and while I am on board with brain retraining and trying it myself, sometimes talk about recovery can be disconcerting. For instance this guest remarks about something Raelan and her guests have often observed: how much mindset plays into recovery. And as the guest says, it seems it’s the people who are hopeful or who were positive they’re going to get better are the ones who recover.
    What can feel disconcerting is that “ mindset and positivity” feel like among the least Controllable aspects. Whatever your mindset, you can take a pill or whatever. But if recovery depends on somehow “ being positive and knowing that you were going to get better” that seems much harder to control, sort of like saying to a depressed person “ just don’t be depressed, it’s the people who snap out of being depressed who get better.” It just feels like some people are born in a way they can have these debilitating scenarios and still have a positive attitude and strong will. Which feels a bit “ lucky them” in that respect. Some of us it seems have a harder time holding onto Hope and positivity on this roller coaster of a disease.
    All that said , Raelan and her guests Make a lot of sense to me, and it does seem that the right path forward is looking to people who have recovered and how.

    • @cyber5515
      @cyber5515 2 місяці тому

      I think the mindfulness strategy could have something to do with the vagus nerve which upregulates the immune system when stressed. A few videos ago, one long covid guy said he cured himself by calmly telling his body not to worry about the "crash" when it happens because it does no real harm. Perhaps this relaxes the vagus nerve and trains the immune system to ignore whatever is switching on the immune attack?

    • @davec3568
      @davec3568 2 місяці тому +1

      Understood, a real change in mindset requires change in beliefs which is indeed easier said than done. That's the whole reason I wanted to do this interview, Buddhist beliefs support a mindset conducive to recovery. Dharma (Buddhist philosophy) can be tested by seeing if your life experience matches the Dharma. If it does, you may eventually believe the Dharma, and if so, your chances of recovery will improve and you will suffer less, all because your view of the world will be closer to how things really are. Karma and reincarnation agree with your assertion that some people are born with a more positive attitude, the circumstances of your birth and body are a result of previous lifetimes of karma, but you can change your karma and beliefs to be the same as the people you mention and have the same positive attitude and strong will. We're all capable of it because our innate nature is all the same, we are all the same as Buddha or Jesus, we just misinterpret reality to varying degrees.

    • @QuintEssential-sz2wn
      @QuintEssential-sz2wn 2 місяці тому

      @@davec3568 thank you for taking the time to reply Dave! Admittedly, I’m not attracted to Buddhism or any such belief structure, however I do understand how brain retraining programs seek to encourage or change beliefs. It has in fact done so for me to a degree. Though it feels like a tight rope, one keeps falling off and having to climb back on. Other people seem to keep more steady. In any case, it’s wonderful that you have recovered to the degree you have.

    • @Waves353
      @Waves353 Місяць тому

      I agree
      Pre existing mentality and self view makes a difference
      I think this is where I fall short!
      Also this man dies admit his condition was not too severe

  • @markleonard4452
    @markleonard4452 2 місяці тому +4

    Wim Hoff has a 10 minute guided wim hoff breathing method video here on UA-cam. Lots of long covid people in the comments there (including me).
    Just search wim hoff method and its the one with an English flag in the background

  • @EvinFox
    @EvinFox 2 місяці тому

    Oh my gosh! This interview was so beautiful. I resonated with so much of it. My take away is the importance of mindset and breathing, and knowing that our bodies know how to heal.

  • @james87367
    @james87367 2 місяці тому +1

    The last 10 minutes are extremely important. Thank you.

  • @Poppywillow2
    @Poppywillow2 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so much for sharing your still raw, heartfelt recovery story. My Long covid recovery journey (which is ongoing after a relapse), is very relatable . I'm still processing and dealing with the suppression of emotions from trauma too. I absolutely agree with the mindset being a huge part of how we approach healing and find recovery success.
    Thank you so much for sharing your insights with such honesty and openness ❤
    I found Jesus during this two year long journey and this also has been a huge part of healing and transformation in so many ways. I am a completely different person compared with the fitness fanatic and striving perfectionist I was two years ago.
    I embrace the new me and the recovery journey continues.
    Thank you Realan. Your channel is such a blessing and has been a huge support and still is. Also, Dan's "Pain Free You" channel has helped massively. Additionally, being present in nature and being grateful is so helpful and healing.
    It is so encouraging and inspiring to hear the stories shared.🙏❤️ Thank you. May God bless you.

  • @megm.c4026
    @megm.c4026 2 місяці тому +1

    I was always completely confident I would recover also. I recovered from Lupus..an incurable auto immune disease the Dr's told me. Ive recovered from R.A. 30 years on, I still have M.E/Cfs. Its nowhere near as bad, but its still here and it still impacts my life hugely. Ive always been positive and done all sorts of things to try recover. At the 5 years in mark I had a bout of depression about it and had to cope with all that as I was so amazed I was still unwell at 5 years in. Now its 30 years and I accept what is and keep trying to find the answer. Meditation has been hugely helpful to me also.I always find things to be grateful for..there is always something.

    • @Truerealism747
      @Truerealism747 2 місяці тому +1

      Do you have hypomobility ime at 27 years though it's more fybromyalgia noe

  • @doublecapricorn
    @doublecapricorn 2 місяці тому

    Havening works regardless of whether you are aware of what’s
    causing the distress. Such a great discovery.

  • @melaniemurphyofficial
    @melaniemurphyofficial 2 місяці тому +2

    Yes yes Wim Hof was massive for me too!

  • @legohouse4819
    @legohouse4819 2 місяці тому +1

    Love this video so much. I too did (and do) cold plunging but I could never do the tumor breathing. I do a gentler form of wim hof and I love the breath holds. But the cold plunging cured my POTS in four months (it was part of my long covid). Other breathing that was helpful was coherent breathing and a regulating breath (4 in 8 out). Also pema chodron's book When Things Fall Apart was sooooo helpful (also Buddhist)

  • @00LisG00
    @00LisG00 2 місяці тому +1

    I have an interest in Buddhism. Thank you for sharing 😊

  • @Wds__99
    @Wds__99 2 місяці тому +4

    If you recovered with ‘mindset’ you just recovered, it wasn’t magical thinking. It’s not uncommon to just recover from illness.

    • @mirjamrettig1977
      @mirjamrettig1977 2 місяці тому +4

      I have not heard of anybody that recovered just spontaneously (at least after a long period of being bed bound), without addressing the nervous symptom consciously or unconsciously. 🤔

    • @Truerealism747
      @Truerealism747 2 місяці тому

      ​@@mirjamrettig1977 I no of one well I was told of one my father's CFS got better gradually with going in out again for short periods though mine hasn't but has changed over time in some ways😊

  • @markleonard4452
    @markleonard4452 2 місяці тому +1

    Wim Hof breathing involves a period of controlled hyperventilation, which can lead to a surge in epinephrine (adrenaline) and other stress hormones. This can temporarily increase your heart rate, blood pressure, and metabolism, which is why some people experience a sense of heightened alertness or energy after practicing the technique.
    However, the key to Wim Hof breathing is not just the hyperventilation itself, but also the periods of breath holding and relaxation that follow. By consciously controlling your breath and your body’s response to stress, you can train your nervous system to become more resilient and better able to cope with stressors in the future.
    So in a way, you’re both revving up your nervous system and teaching it to regulate itself more effectively. It’s a fascinating interplay between mind and body

    • @OswaldJames-x2t
      @OswaldJames-x2t 2 місяці тому

      💯💯❤️❤️👍👍🇬🇾👍

  • @mrjackolanterns
    @mrjackolanterns 2 місяці тому +8

    Wim Hof method never made sense to me and I did it daily for six months and it destroyed me every time. You are literally hyperventilating, which is the bodies natural response to danger, which in turn sends you like a rocket into fight or flight. You dump so much adrenaline and tax your adrenals so much doing that. That is how most of us got here in the first place. I don't understand the physiology behind how that is supposed to sooth the nervous system. It's so contradictory.

    • @davec3568
      @davec3568 2 місяці тому +1

      I can definitely see that, it's probably like exercise where it can be helpful if you have the capacity to do it without horrible PEM. Wim Hoff takes some capacity to perform that may be beyond what some can do safely. If that's the case, start out VERY slow! Wim Hoff techniques can help regulate our nervous and immune systems among other things. For me, cold exposure halted cytokine storms in their tracks several times. One time I felt like my lungs were being attacked and the other was the result of a bad flu, at night I'd get a bad headache and excessive mucous production that left me unable to sleep. The reaction my body has to cold exposure halted both issues within a few minutes. I can't know for sure, but when my lungs were attacked it seems a lot like what people went through that landed them in the ER with low blood O2 levels and extreme difficulty breathing. In any case, like exercise, Wim Hoff can be practiced on different levels. Personally, I'm not at the level where I need an ice bath, a cold shower is enough! So you can start out with a lukewarm shower, you 're looking for that uncomfortable reaction you get when the water is cold and then you adjust to it and then it's ok. For someone who isn't conditioned to cold, going full-cold in a shower may be too much let alone an ice bath! Same with breathing, you can start out just doing 10 deep breaths, no need to do 30+ at first. I won't get into it here, but the claims Wim makes about the benefits of doing these practices are indeed real and he's proven it. Just be gentle with yourself and don't do anything, be it exercise, breathwork, or whatever, to the extent it results in a bad crash.

    • @mrjackolanterns
      @mrjackolanterns 2 місяці тому

      ​@@davec3568 I appreciate the response David and I'm glad you shared your story and I'm not trying to be a jerk about the whole thing, it's just that I did cold showers everyday for a year, and the Wim method everyday for 6 months and the only benefit I ever noticed in all that time is I just didn't get cold anymore. Also, the Wim Hof Method has been known in traditional Yoga as Breath Of Fire for thousands of years and even they say not to practice it very often because it is very hard on the nervous system and adrenals glands, and yet people here in the US are doing it multiple times per day. Cold showers and the Wim Hof Method are really, really big stressors on the body and probably the last thing people with stressed out nervous systems should be doing. I'm happy you pulled through this thing, man. And thanks again for sharing. I know we all appreciate it here. Again, hopefully I didn't sound to gruff, I just have strong feelings about this because no one ever talks about the negative impacts in can have.

    • @Wds__99
      @Wds__99 2 місяці тому +2

      Nose breathing during cold we train the body to be calm under stress. It makes you more resilient. Learn to be calm in the cold. That’s where the magic happens.

    • @mrjackolanterns
      @mrjackolanterns 2 місяці тому

      @@Wds__99 I did that

    • @legohouse4819
      @legohouse4819 2 місяці тому +1

      The research shows that cold exposure tones the vagus nerve. The breathing never worked for me so I did and do a much gentler breathing method but I do the cold plunging almost daily still. It was a huge part of my long covid recovery

  • @dommccaffry3802
    @dommccaffry3802 2 місяці тому +1

    I was a kagyu monk 30 years ago. I should have stayed in monastery.

  • @alexandrecouture2462
    @alexandrecouture2462 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @andrearositas4887
    @andrearositas4887 Місяць тому

    What are the internal vibrations coming from? 😢

    • @Eliokd
      @Eliokd Місяць тому

      Nervous system

  • @idragonfly
    @idragonfly 2 місяці тому +2

    Delightful interview 🤍🤙💥 Sweet human being..

  • @user-lm6ro4ec9v
    @user-lm6ro4ec9v 2 місяці тому +1

    What is he talking about at 19 minutes? I drug that starts with ivr…?

    • @cdv2244
      @cdv2244 2 місяці тому +1

      ivermectin I suppose

  • @KellyK-pu3mn
    @KellyK-pu3mn 2 місяці тому +2

    Did your tinnitus go away?

    • @davec3568
      @davec3568 2 місяці тому +2

      It's not as bad now, but it still comes and goes seemingly at random. The only consistent thing has been sleep is a trigger. I always get it from sleep, even if I just fall asleep briefly. Sometimes it goes away quickly after I wake up, sometime it does not, and I have no clue why.

  • @WolfieWoofWoofMeow
    @WolfieWoofWoofMeow 2 місяці тому +3

    Unfortunately, Buddhism and meditation don’t solve vitamin and mineral deficiencies.

    • @MegaLeoben
      @MegaLeoben 2 місяці тому +3

      WHat if I told you. You dont have any deficiency.

    • @kaykay6618
      @kaykay6618 2 місяці тому +12

      Actually a dysregulated nervous system will definitely create deficiencies. Therefore, however one goes about regulating their nervous system will, in turn, regulate deficiencies.

    • @kala9907
      @kala9907 2 місяці тому +7

      Stress actually pulls from your magnesium and b vitamins(I think cq10 as well ) reservoir in the body to maintain homeostasis. If we reduce stress as much as possible, we don't dip into those vitamin banks as much

    • @sparrowcrow
      @sparrowcrow 2 місяці тому +1

      It can help. Certainly won't hurt. If our bodies are in a more relaxed healing state (rest and DIGEST) we will be able to absorb nutrients better. Also the extreme fight or flight, high alert state burns through particular nutrients quickly, leading to deficiencies. Meditation helps calm both the mind and body. So, no meditation won't directly fix the deficiencies, but along with diet and targeted supplements, they make an excellent team to resolve the underlying issue.

    • @davec3568
      @davec3568 2 місяці тому +1

      Sure, but luckily we don't have to pick one or the other. You can study Buddhism AND take supplements. As mentioned, dysautonomia stresses the body and uses up nutrients, so it's just part of the cycle or feedback loop. Anything we can do to reduce stress is good, be it mental or physical.

  • @mirandaandrea8215
    @mirandaandrea8215 2 місяці тому +3

    I cant help thinking 'long covid' is a jab injury? Thanks for sharing David

    • @alexandrecouture2462
      @alexandrecouture2462 2 місяці тому

      Hey, lots and lots of people, just like me, got long covid before the covid vaccines were available, during the first few waves. Stop propagating this idea that long covid = vaccine injury.

    • @evelinel.9827
      @evelinel.9827 2 місяці тому

      People don't get these conditions as a result of a long covid jab or Covid (if these things actually caused these illnesses millions and millions would have them, not just a tiny percentage), those things are just the last straw that tip the allostatic load / stress load in the body. Getting Covid or taking a vaccine is the just the last straw that tips the nervous system over the top, not the cause.

    • @scarletfalanges
      @scarletfalanges 2 місяці тому +11

      There are those who get LC who never had the jab

    • @LongHaulHealing
      @LongHaulHealing 2 місяці тому +6

      I never had a jab suffering since Feb 2022

    • @alexandrecouture2462
      @alexandrecouture2462 2 місяці тому +5

      @@mirandaandrea8215 Don't forget people who got long covid from the first wave...

  • @kateking3953
    @kateking3953 2 місяці тому

    I had severe long covid from 2020. Breathwork did help me, but not the extreme stuff that Wim Hof does. It's too extreme, and if you have the heart issues of covid, cold and extreme breathing would be dangerous! Simple breath in for four, hold for four and out for six is good. Frankly I don't want to hear about any religious aspects added onto healing, Buddhist, Christian or any other. No-one comes to healing channels to be converted!

    • @legohouse4819
      @legohouse4819 2 місяці тому +1

      In no way is he trying to convert. He is sharing how his spirituality helped him recover. Very different

    • @kateking3953
      @kateking3953 2 місяці тому

      @@legohouse4819 Yes, that's fine, and it's wonderful for him that he found that support. But a lot of people with problems, especially not in America, don't practice a religion, and don't necessarily see a healing journey as needing to be tied to any sort of religious belief.

    • @davec3568
      @davec3568 Місяць тому

      @@kateking3953 It doesn't need to be religious. Buddhism is a philosophy that describes how the world works. The closer your beliefs are to reality, the less you will suffer. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that.

  • @DraganAlves
    @DraganAlves 2 місяці тому

    This is a scam / grifter channel