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Annealing Steel in Vermiculite vs Wood Ash
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2017
- Annealing is a step I always skipped... That is until I tried it.
What an unbelievable difference. Some recommend you use wood ash from a fireplace, some recommend this vermiculite stuff. What is better? Lets take a look at annealing and see what it is and what works better. #SCIENCE sorta...
I am just learning, if you see something i could have done better please let me know in the comments below so myself and other people learning can gain from your knowledge.
Thanks for watching.
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Paused at 27 seconds past 5 minutes, why not use a can opener?
The torch is better. Hahaha
Can openers are boring though
where is the fun in that? :)
Wait... What are we watching?
I recognize that moment, its the 'You know what? Fuck it!' moment... I get those as well.
By the sound alone they both sound darn near dead soft.
Good experiment to share!
Albert
They are. Thanks albert!
Thanks for doing what I needed. Vermiculite it is. Thank you sir. Very informative and good way to spend some free time.
Happy to help!
"These tin snips are horrible!" *breaks out oxy/acetyline torch.
If at first you don't succeed try try again. If that fails turn it into a liquid.
cheers for that comparison, just bought myself a bag of vermiculite and shaped and dropped my first bit of steel in it yesterday, to cool overnight. Hopefully it will become a hot cut chisel if all works out well. - about to go and see how well it went! Feeling fairly confident after watching your video during breakfast!
Hope it helped your breakfast. Im eating mine now, lol.
Did it work for you?
Thanks
No problem
Thanks for making the video. Very informative. Definitely gonna start annealing EVERYTHING lol.
It makes such a huge difference.
Great video comparison, something that occurred to me when watching is that you could use an automatic centre dot to mark the steel which should remove human error as much as possible. and also what about wrapping the cans in Kaowool or similar to insulate, it should give a slower cool and give a softer metal at the end as i understand the process.
I actually have an automatic center punch. Ill try that on version 2
Thank you
Glad you liked it, Michael Gold!
Need to uograde the mic technology there bud lol. Good shit loved it and this has 100% helped me out
Glad it helped. and yes I do. Working on that.
Friis Forge its just the size of your shop right? If you get one of those chest mics the sound quality will improve a thousand fold and subscriptions hehehehe have a good one bud im busy testing out a oregon harvester chainsaw bar for a bowie knife
Hmm interesting, i like the cleaner scenario, but my shop budget says eff no.
You should look into what im doing, pottery kiln, will get plenty hot for annealing, and at that point, it opens up foundry work, maybe up to brass or copper. There are kilns everywhere, and pretty cheap, one day ill find the right one.
Im going to make a foundry eventually. The vermiculite isnt that expensive. this bag was 12$
Annealing intresting but, the larger one has more volume, thus more thermal energey, disapating in the same space soo it would cool slower.
Agreed. I need to redo this experiment with lime and just leaving it in the forge also.
Love the Ferris Bueler reference.
:)
can opener???? I picked up two 1.5 gallon size of vermiculite....It was so wet it had to be dried before using. I used a thrifty store crock pot
If you put argon in there, would it stay in the container? It's a better insulator and I think it would prevent oxidation.
If you want to compare hardness of materials, use one against the other. As they are (still) files, try to use the one to file the other and vice versa (assuming the different parts are still of comparable sharpness).
Awesome video mate, great test. Thanks very much :D
And, someone has seen deadpool one too many times. Or just really likes ferris beuller.
I have probably seen both one too many times lol
Id like to see a video on anealing vs astanding
what astanding?
Thank you it was informative
You're welcome
You should pit the vermiculite against agricultural lime. It's what was highly recommended to me for annealing.
Me, I'm lazy I leave the metal in the forge and let it cool slowly.
I might need to do a 4 way competition. vermiculite vs wood ash vs agricultural lime vs just leaving it in the forge.
Friis Forge - I’d be interested in that. I just leave mine in the forge for now. But have a bunch of lime that my blacksmith buddy insist is the way to go.
Next time try it can opener
a good idea!
Next time when you're opening up bottom of a coffee can, maybe try using a can opener
Ill give it a go next time.
one of them probably cooled down slower because it was twice the size .
Buy a can opener or use the wife's one from the kitchen just a thought happy new year to you and your family
might try that on the next one.
A medium sized cooler with vermiculite will hold the heat much longer.
+The Watch Show yes I imagine it would... hmm.
Larger metal cools slower so softer
Good video
Thank you. I plan to expand on it later. Apparently lime works well too, and just leaving it in the forge is also effective.
Friis Forge I wanted to try that cheap cat litter that's just like the clay pieces and see how it dose just for fun
I did not know I could wood ash in the first place.
Now you know. :) Skal
Time travel stuff
+2 points
Are you speaking to yourself or to us, sorry i had to write something with well wishes.
Sometimes its both at the same time. lol Sorry thats not a straight answer.
Great demonstration. For my take on annealing, check out my shout out video to HoJ forge and preparing high carbon steel in a weber grill. Thanks
Couldnt find it. Do you have a link?
Friis Forge i basically put the steel in my weber kettle grill. Then set the fire and cook dinner. Once done cooking, i leave it in the coals with the lid on overnight. The next day, toolsteel is cool and annealed
When all else fails burn the sucker off haha XD
+TheBritishViking I tried to be nice and neat but it destroyed the little disc, so I figured tin snips would make short work of it. After those failed me I had enough. Cant cause me torouble if it's a liquid. Lol
Now I have to know if a regular can opener will work on a Costco coffee can.
I might have to find out.
Can I just suggest a can opener
Yes.