Tatemae vs. Honne /「建前 vs. 本音」

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  • @ThemSensay
    @ThemSensay 6 років тому +6439

    So the takeaway from this lesson is that in order to master the Japanese Language I must grasp the concept of absolute passive aggressiveness.

    • @nafay
      @nafay 6 років тому +402

      That's honestly the best way I've ever seen that put

    • @veemon
      @veemon 6 років тому +168

      You got it!

    • @thomaster8870
      @thomaster8870 6 років тому +266

      You haven't mastered Japanese unless you were in mutual love with a girl, but neither of you was able to express their love to the other in a way that came across, so you ended up talking past each other and the beautiful love you could have had together never came to be, because of several hundreds of consecutive misunderstandings. Why did she keep calling my thing a moon?! Is it because I am round like the moon?!? Did she call me fat and I just didn't get it?!?!?

    • @makarlock
      @makarlock 6 років тому +32

      Thomaster шлепанцы oh yeah was she deaf too?

    • @thomaster8870
      @thomaster8870 6 років тому +27

      No, everything I said was a lie.

  • @splatttt
    @splatttt 6 років тому +2153

    “i would honestly rather die” is something i wish i could say to a lot of requests

    • @sorbetto9707
      @sorbetto9707 6 років тому +65

      You should start.
      I use the "I'd rather kill myself" paired with a big smile. Works wonders

    • @oktovria
      @oktovria 4 роки тому +6

      @@sorbetto9707 thanks, would try this once I enter college

    • @ashakydd1
      @ashakydd1 4 роки тому +17

      I have straight up said this to a boss. I should specify that I actually had that kind of relationship with my boss where they were okay with me saying stuff like that.

    • @oktovria
      @oktovria 4 роки тому +6

      @@ashakydd1 thats cool

    • @shizukagozen777
      @shizukagozen777 3 роки тому

      Same.

  • @荒羅斯治
    @荒羅斯治 6 років тому +1609

    Honne-stly dogen,i've really missed ya

    • @ayumisakaguchi3624
      @ayumisakaguchi3624 5 років тому +5

      This is too good 😎

    • @シロダサンダー
      @シロダサンダー 5 років тому +8

      @Raymart Lipat I doubt Japanese and English have cognates. They're too far apart linguistically.
      For honne and honest to be cognates their common ancestor must be thousands of years in the past. Pretty much impossible with such words.

    • @yukialinia8001
      @yukialinia8001 4 роки тому

      I'm your 1000th like, great comment 😂😂😂

    • @pessimistic5579
      @pessimistic5579 3 роки тому +1

      @@シロダサンダー honne literally translates to true sound. Tatemae translates to something in front or a façade

  • @yayalu8650
    @yayalu8650 4 роки тому +568

    The way you delivered “because you are a woman” was superb

    • @maogu1999
      @maogu1999 4 роки тому +26

      ONNA DAKARA

    • @Mansplainer452
      @Mansplainer452 3 роки тому +1

      That totally doesn't happen at all in 2021

    • @kakahass8845
      @kakahass8845 3 роки тому +1

      @@maogu1999 女だから。

  • @Kurobeau
    @Kurobeau 6 років тому +2492

    Tatamae: Awesome vid as always, Dogen!
    Honne: Why doesn't he upload more often, tch.

    • @MisterShnig
      @MisterShnig 4 роки тому +20

      I noticed this comment had nearly a thousand likes without any replies, so I had to reply.

    • @Kurobeau
      @Kurobeau 4 роки тому +17

      @@MisterShnig コメントしたくれてありがとうございますー

    • @MisterShnig
      @MisterShnig 4 роки тому +14

      @@Kurobeau どういたしまして

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 роки тому +10

      @@MisterShnig Honne: You're comment was stupid and I felt like rubbing in the fact that no one replied to you.

  • @orangutan-halibut-walrus
    @orangutan-halibut-walrus 6 років тому +1702

    dogen dropping some truth bombs on the human condition and the flaws inherent in relationships between people

    • @itsJoshV
      @itsJoshV 6 років тому +19

      lol for real, this is a lesson for many languages I bet. Certainly fits here in America too

    • @zackwyvern2582
      @zackwyvern2582 5 років тому +3

      @Neohybrid Kai Have you ever had a job? It would explain your astounding ignorance.

    • @Tamaki742
      @Tamaki742 5 років тому +19

      @@zackwyvern2582 Maybe don't assume stuff you don't know to avoid sounding like an asshole.

    • @jmiquelmb
      @jmiquelmb 5 років тому +37

      @Neohybrid Kai I'd say Westerners are fake just in a different way. Here in the West many people assume Japanese people are meaning it when they're so polite, rather than being just a social norm. Social norms in the West look less formal, but they are not as genuine as many non Westerners would think. Fake positivity and forcing a smile is a very well known American thing. Obviously, this is just a generalization and every person is different here and there

    • @littlefishbigmountain
      @littlefishbigmountain 5 років тому +17

      Neohybrid Kai
      Westerners tend to be _a lot_ more straightforward on the internet than in person. More or less so depending on the person. A lot of people on the internet would never say the stuff they do to someone’s face

  • @smoli
    @smoli 6 років тому +656

    "I'm the boss, so I can come in late." I died

    • @RanmaruRei
      @RanmaruRei 4 роки тому +4

      Lol, my boss from the previous job «I'm the boss, so I won't come today because I want some rest (I'm lazy) today. Send me daily report by WhatsApp. When I approve it, I'll reply. After this you can go home».

  • @apricity2994
    @apricity2994 6 років тому +1127

    Dogen, you're so underrated.

    • @thomaster8870
      @thomaster8870 6 років тому +15

      Rated D for Dogen.
      D is a passing grade.

    • @Meatman6196
      @Meatman6196 6 років тому +6

      Tee Na I think the jokes are very niche, which I love, but personally think is the biggest reason (requires certain amount of knowledge in specific areas, culture, partly anime... ).

    • @bryannishi4910
      @bryannishi4910 4 роки тому +1

      You too.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 4 роки тому +2

      Is that honne or tatemae?

  • @seachiaki
    @seachiaki 3 роки тому +103

    どうげんさんの優しい声と毒舌の組み合わせに、すっかり虜になっている。

  • @AobaTachibana
    @AobaTachibana 6 років тому +323

    建前:待ってました!
    本音:待ってました!

  • @moresoduh
    @moresoduh 6 років тому +83

    「お願いだからやめて」
    今までに無いぐらい爆笑しました

  • @wcar6117
    @wcar6117 6 років тому +220

    A couple ppl talking about the difs in translation, but I always thought that was just Dogen's creative license and having some fun with localization. The jokes may or may not translate the same literally, but I think he's just upping the ante on either version to make it funnier. Or more interesting. He did something similar on a short story vid a while back iirc. I mean, sure some people who know about Japan may have heard of love hotels, but if you don't then the joke is lost. Or whatever other example. Also love hotel sounds wack in English, maybe that's partly it.

    • @harshmnr
      @harshmnr 4 роки тому +25

      Yeah plus the fact that since English and Japanese grammar are complete opposites, if there's a joke where he stops partway through a sentence and doesn't finish it, there's not really any way to translate it literally.
      ~:~

  • @高木正弘-e9z
    @高木正弘-e9z 4 роки тому +33

    I am Japanese. well said.
    he said what I wanted to say everyday.
    drink party is the biggest enemy to my life.waste of time.

  • @mesmaeker
    @mesmaeker 6 років тому +135

    One of the best so far! I can't stop laughing because it's so accurate. Once you've worked in a 会社, this becomes so relatable ahah...

  • @murasyo
    @murasyo 6 років тому +55

    本当に面白い。

  • @chowderhead18
    @chowderhead18 4 роки тому +132

    “女 だ か ら”

    • @Eaode
      @Eaode 3 роки тому +3

      F

  • @masayau19951118
    @masayau19951118 6 років тому +114

    建前:いつも投稿気長に待ってます!
    本音:毎秒投稿しろ!

    • @zanteidesu
      @zanteidesu 3 роки тому

      本音:いいから俺のために動け!

  • @Sakamori14
    @Sakamori14 6 років тому +282

    I was going to say that you shouldn't have kept the tatemae-smiling fot the honne part, too, but on second thought, it's just even better to hear it behind the same faces.

  • @youssefelbouzidi1016
    @youssefelbouzidi1016 5 років тому +153

    Ok this was awesome. I love the fact that with Tatemae we can avoid useless fights but seriously, this is so hard to get... you never know when someone is honest and it is also kinda sad.

    • @KirosanaPerkele
      @KirosanaPerkele 4 роки тому +14

      With Honne we can avoid useless banter though. ;)

    • @ethanstump
      @ethanstump 3 роки тому +2

      it's almost like honesty is important. even when you don't want it to be!

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 3 роки тому +7

      Ngl, this has slowly become the reason i think i'll never move to japan.

    • @zeki1
      @zeki1 3 роки тому +2

      It may be that honesty is only reserved to close friends. The ones you are comfortable in telling the truth.

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 3 роки тому +7

      @@zeki1 opinions of course, but i genuinely believe that lack of honesty is what led to most wars and tragedy in the world... consider that.

  • @FunkyBukkyo
    @FunkyBukkyo 6 років тому +270

    お願いだからやめて

  • @imry0586
    @imry0586 6 років тому +9

    社長の離婚届のところ好き

  • @jrwhisky
    @jrwhisky 5 років тому +161

    My hight school students love this video, I don't think they get it but they sure think a foreigner spaaking Japanese in perfect pitch is hilarious. Since they are laughing the hardest at the beginning when he just says short japanese lesson.

    • @ffls2706
      @ffls2706 4 роки тому +1

      In which country?

    • @yjk92
      @yjk92 4 роки тому +8

      @@ffls2706 they probably teach English in Japan.

  • @lastsaneman19
    @lastsaneman19 6 років тому +134

    "また安っぽいお煎餅" ITS TOO REAL

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 6 років тому +3

      Honestly I prefer them to some of the more "exotic" souvenirs

  • @killerbanshe3
    @killerbanshe3 6 років тому +47

    i would rather die. Speaks to me on at least 8 different levels.

  • @cafe-h2w
    @cafe-h2w 3 роки тому +3

    どーげんは前から今のレベルだと思っていたけどめちゃめちゃ細かい部分が改善されてるの、見てわかる。日本語マスターへの執念を感じます。てか、動画自体が面白すぎて大好き

  • @MissHanake
    @MissHanake 6 років тому +45

    literally everything you make is pure gold!!!!

  • @ulrike1587
    @ulrike1587 6 років тому +12

    It really feels like 8 different people in this one video. Dogen's acting is great

  • @noragaminatsume4162
    @noragaminatsume4162 5 років тому +47

    "My dog will love these"
    「食わんし」 are strangely equally as funny 😆

  • @こうきしば
    @こうきしば 6 років тому +169

    英語が喋れるようになりたいは草

    • @senjusan6359
      @senjusan6359 5 років тому +14

      I want to speak Japanese. Wanna trade our languages maybe?

    • @ゆはーちゃん
      @ゆはーちゃん 4 роки тому +1

      @@senjusan6359 If you´re OK with me,I want to it!

    • @tapist3482
      @tapist3482 4 роки тому +6

      @ぽる山田ポルキチ Even better: we use a real-time translator or an integrated neural chip to understand every language in the world.

    • @franciscotavares9529
      @franciscotavares9529 4 роки тому +1

      @@ゆはーちゃん Senjusanが答えてくれなかったらしいので、僕で良ければ、練習相手になりませんか?

    • @tantanryuryo5716
      @tantanryuryo5716 3 роки тому

      @@tapist3482 the real, REAL future: every baby born can speak like a professor of every known language

  • @alumba
    @alumba 6 років тому +8

    Thanks for the lesson. I feel confident going into my performance appraisal on Monday.

  • @w15hful
    @w15hful 6 років тому +1

    心地よい振り切れ方

  • @lucifermeowstar4604
    @lucifermeowstar4604 6 років тому +3

    I may never get the full context of these but your delivery is always on point.
    My man!

  • @WaaDoku
    @WaaDoku 6 років тому +193

    The saddest part about this is that I can't share this with any of my Japanese friends because it's too real xDD

    • @TheShiningEnergy
      @TheShiningEnergy Рік тому

      but they must know. They need a dose of reality. As do we.

  • @Gekinokeiko
    @Gekinokeiko 6 років тому +143

    申し訳ないけど毎秒動画出してくれないと困る。俺はもう道元さん以外で満足できない。

  • @モコナモドキもドッキドキ
    @モコナモドキもドッキドキ 6 років тому +10

    過去最高に面白いねw

  • @tensaimontv
    @tensaimontv 6 років тому +2

    Dogen that's brilliant, one of your best yet, love the characterizations, and painfully accurate

  • @OneOfPhilHardison
    @OneOfPhilHardison 6 років тому +13

    面白すぎてしんどいです😂😂😂

  • @Moraag
    @Moraag 6 років тому +12

    Gotta love the reality of everything

  • @itagane7288
    @itagane7288 6 років тому +5

    Thank you for making these videos. They are hilarious and weirdly informing at the same time ^^

  • @ravenblackwell4408
    @ravenblackwell4408 6 років тому +1

    You’ve outdone yourself with this one; thanks so much for doing vids like these, they’re the brighthest part of my day

  • @vmgNarra
    @vmgNarra 3 роки тому +1

    This may be your best video yet! I died laughing!

  • @gabrielshinohara228
    @gabrielshinohara228 4 роки тому +10

    OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    社長 「妻が離婚届けを出したんだ、一緒に飲んでくれ」
    付き合ってやれよー wwwwww

  • @ShibaASMR
    @ShibaASMR 6 років тому +78

    Yamamoto’s wife used to go to a ラブホテル and play with a bicycle seat... hardcore.

    • @cjsanandreas1000
      @cjsanandreas1000 5 років тому

      Bicycle seat is supposed to mean "penis" ????

    • @RzelAkira
      @RzelAkira 4 роки тому +4

      Its not meant to be a penis, but its some kind of easy to get DIY sex toy lel. But tbh there is some weird kink about it, where someone in japan especially likes to stole the seat from the bicycle (yes its a crime in a lot of ways), i know this from my friend that lives in japan xD

  • @akirasan9160
    @akirasan9160 4 роки тому +18

    In Japan, honne are a person's true feelings and desires, and tatemae are the behavior and opinions one displays in public. -Wikipedia
    Aah.. now i understand😂

    • @RzelAkira
      @RzelAkira 4 роки тому +4

      To be simple
      Tatemae ( Front Shield ) = hiding true feeling with a shield a.k.a act professional and respectful
      Honne = straight forward burning them

  • @ennn9543
    @ennn9543 5 років тому +15

    Omg this is so true!!! This video describes my work environment perfectly. This is exactly I find it hilarious when tourists say that Japanese are sweet people 🤣

    • @gabija5304
      @gabija5304 4 роки тому

      日本人ってすごく怖いですよ。日本で滞在したことのある私はよくわかる(笑)

  • @mimisheean6648
    @mimisheean6648 3 роки тому +5

    I’ve watched this like 10 times, and it always makes me laugh.

  • @SakanaKuKuRu
    @SakanaKuKuRu 4 роки тому +5

    I couldn't catch some of the honne parts
    建前
    A お 山本さん、旅行はどうだった。
    B ああ、楽しかったよ。 お、土産買ってきたよ、
    A おお、ありがとう!
    B いや、つまんないことは悪いよ
    A いやいや、素晴らしいもんだ
    B よかったよ。海はクリアブルーでね
    A ええ、ジェラシーに感じさせないよ、はい奥さん元気にしている?
    B うん、元気元気
    A この前渡したケーキに気に入ってくれたのだな?
    B 全部食べたよ
    A 大学時代にそなケーキが好きだと教えてくれた
    B 相見積もりはどうなってるか?
    A ああれは日立にしたんだ、一番安くていいものを作ってくれるから。
    B 日立か。いいね。では、いつくる?
    A あ、そっか。今日の三時だったんだ。
    B あ、あっちゃん、三時になったらお茶を出してくれますか
    C 温かいものはいいですか。それとも、冷たいものはいいですか。
    B どっちでもいいですか。
    C かしこまりました。
    社長:皆おはよう~
    AB: 社長おはようございます
    社長:夕方の打ち合わせことなんだけどキャンセルになったから、皆の見に行かない?
    A:是非来ますよ
    B:僕も来ます!
    本音
    A: 山本さん、お前のせいで先週皆残業した
    B:あんたのことが嫌いけど、一緒に働いてるから仕方なくこれを買ってきた。
    A: お、また安っぽい煎餅買う、ていうかこう安心(?)
    B:じゃあ、今度は2000円のものを買ってね。
    A:千円のものにするよ
    B:英語が話せるようになりたい
    A:俺も
    B:あ、久美子は元気?
    A:お願いだからやめて
    B:大学時代に俺彼女と付き合っていたことが言ったっけ?
    A:毎週言ってる。
    B:一回ダボ穂いた(?)時にはイチャイチャして…
    A:仕事の話にしよう
    B:日立にしたよ。一番安くていいもの作ってくれないけど、まあ昔から付き合ってるからね
    A:だよな。ていうかいつもそうしているから、もう相見積もりなんかも要らなくね
    B:あ、あっちゃん、三時になったら、お茶を出せ!
    C:それ、何で私はやらなきゃいけないの?
    B:女だから
    C:このオフイスで一番働いてるし
    社長:僕ボースだから遅刻してんいいだ
    B:そう、真面目に仕事しなきゃ
    A:社長今日もタバコ臭い(がしている)ですよ
    C:昨日、妻がとうとう離婚届を出した、今日は一緒に飲んでくれ
    B:ギタの練習はできなくなちゃう
    A:まじ死んだ方が増しです

  • @SakanaOtoko
    @SakanaOtoko 6 років тому +13

    I've got 3 boxes of sable for co workers sitting beside me I feel this video so much

  • @SpectatorAlius
    @SpectatorAlius 5 років тому +4

    This hilarious episode deserves everyone of the 4.4K upvotes it got! And that is honne, not tatemae!

  • @lekhanhtrangtran5739
    @lekhanhtrangtran5739 4 роки тому +1

    I just love his humour and acting sooo much. Sooooo passive agressive.

  • @ElFlippage
    @ElFlippage 6 років тому +4

    Just wanted to chime in and say I saw your channel referenced elsewhere and wondered if it was THAT Dogen from waaaay back in the day who did the excellent tricks tutorials videos - and lo and behold it is! Cool to see you stuck with the content.

  • @metaforically
    @metaforically 3 роки тому

    Dogen,
    Intellectual humor is rare and should be celebrated.
    My hats off to you!

  • @Bearfisted
    @Bearfisted 6 років тому +1

    Amazing work as always dogen!

  • @SuryaZakura
    @SuryaZakura Рік тому +2

    Yesterday we were shown this video in our university during a lesson on Honne and Tatemae (for BA JAPANESE course 3rd year DSE)
    And man could we hold our laughter in XD
    There wasn't a single person in the room who din get a stomach ache from laughing after watching this😂
    The reason we had such a great shock upon seeing the honne was,we were asked to First guess with our teammates and write down what places Tatemae must have been used in the conversation.
    And we honestly,never in our wildest dreams could have thought that in reality, it was Tatemae from start to finish,that too with such an intense war goin on beneath the surface 😂
    The funniest part was that right after the video my teammate commented saying "ii shatsu kiteiru ne" to me and I felt super touched and was in the middle of saying thank you when i suddenly stopped and realised that he was actually using Tatemae,cuz after saying that he lowkey turned his head to hold in his laughter 😂

  • @mirlamontano6640
    @mirlamontano6640 4 роки тому +1

    this was so much more deeper than I thought it was going to be.
    im not dissapointed

  • @neko7077
    @neko7077 6 років тому +36

    強烈に毒が効いてるw

  • @fador1337
    @fador1337 6 років тому +1

    Honne stuff is some of Dogen's best work.

  • @lionguysai
    @lionguysai 6 років тому

    Definitely one of your best videos so far

  • @sweetarchangel6748
    @sweetarchangel6748 6 років тому +2

    Love ths one. Perfection. Honne is pretty much how I feel most of the time.

  • @mahdi8835
    @mahdi8835 6 років тому +13

    that went drak real fast

  • @marikaefer
    @marikaefer 5 років тому +2

    You're an absolute artist, I'm so glad I found your channel.

  • @Q-BOT
    @Q-BOT 4 роки тому

    Omg man your channel kills it. This video is hilarious AND educational. I'm sure there's a word for that...

  • @haruka7010
    @haruka7010 4 роки тому

    これほんと好きなんだよな~

  • @kpfluger15
    @kpfluger15 4 роки тому +6

    "I would honestly rather die" ah. Me on the day to day regarding the smallest of inconveniences

  • @Kam_in_korea
    @Kam_in_korea 6 років тому +1

    I didn't know people could fall in love with a UA-cam channel!

  • @haruna2380
    @haruna2380 6 років тому +51

    From the view of a typical Japanese, this is absolutely amazing stuff. Probably it would be a bit hard to understand for foreigners but we’ve already knew it(that it hardly happen in other countries), so don't hesitate to visit here! Additionally, I'm sure I heard that there's the same notion in the UK...or maybe my mistake.
    Sorry for my poor English😇

    • @TheScratchingKiwi
      @TheScratchingKiwi 6 років тому +10

      It happens in English speaking countries too. We have a lot of ways to deliver insults/brutal honesty with a smile in the right situations (that is to say, when it's not a good idea to be honest).
      "You're looking well.", "Have a nice day.", "Thank you." can mean so many things and many of them are not nice.
      I can't stand such fakery. There's also a saying in English: "If you don't have something good to say, say nothing.".
      Probably the reason I doze whenever I am around people! LOL

    • @hermenegildakociubinska6665
      @hermenegildakociubinska6665 6 років тому +22

      Things that might confuse foreigners: 1) expectations to bring small souvenirs to your colleagues after you take a holiday; 2) expectation to drink with your boss after work. The rest is pretty much universal.

    • @abigailfulbrook5644
      @abigailfulbrook5644 6 років тому +11

      Yes, British people are pretty good at this too, but Japanese are masters!

    • @nothinglastsforever0000
      @nothinglastsforever0000 5 років тому +6

      Pretty sure mental health problem in both Japan and the UK is majorly contributed by this social culture/norms. Every countries has them but omg. As a British person myself, I get confused about what I really think myself a lot.

    • @thorbergson
      @thorbergson 5 років тому +1

      @@nothinglastsforever0000 "what I really think myself" that's gold :))) a line worthy to be in a good comedy

  • @Exkajer
    @Exkajer 6 років тому +4

    Pure gold.

  • @alastorcrow2180
    @alastorcrow2180 6 років тому

    Dogen you always deliver! That was hilarious but it's right on point. I could almost hear the nervous laughing cry of any OL that watches this.

  • @DashiSmash
    @DashiSmash 4 роки тому

    This is such a well-written video. Good acting too.

  • @ajisaiart
    @ajisaiart 6 років тому +2

    Thank you! You nailed it!

  • @mimimitsu
    @mimimitsu 6 років тому +17

    When you delve too deep into personal life-

  • @Iloveyusomuch
    @Iloveyusomuch 6 років тому +1

    you're awesome. You've easly become one my favorite channel

  • @qp7ebe
    @qp7ebe 3 роки тому +3

    辛辣すぎる。。
    建前と本音は、更にもう一つの言語みたいなもんだから日本人にも難しいよ。。

  • @dontme6152
    @dontme6152 4 роки тому +6

    tatemae means the behaviour you display in public like a "mask" , and honne means ones true feelings

  • @Japanesemen
    @Japanesemen 6 років тому +48

    会社行きたくなくなるじゃねぇかw

  • @zucc4764
    @zucc4764 6 років тому

    I'd love to see Dogen do stories again. Please tell me I'm not the only one.

  • @ayumisakaguchi3624
    @ayumisakaguchi3624 5 років тому +1

    Discovered you fairly recently、and I am so happy that I have to much content left to watch. ❤ this video reminded me a little of Kyoto passive aggressiveness 😂 Will keep watching 😎

  • @raik9536
    @raik9536 6 років тому +25

    面白かったです(笑)
    建前じゃないよ、信じてくれ、すごく面白いけどさ。。。

  • @Basilisks666
    @Basilisks666 5 років тому

    An incredible repost, the levels of passive agressivity that can be achieved in Japanese culture never cease to amaze me.

  • @yayalu8650
    @yayalu8650 4 роки тому

    This may be one of your most underrated videos

  • @mukaccino
    @mukaccino 6 років тому

    Absolutely 天才 as always!

  • @ZarlanTheGreen
    @ZarlanTheGreen 6 років тому +528

    The honne/tatemae dichotomy isn't a Japanese thing. It's a human thing.
    That said, this is a nice illustration of, and comment on, the typical Japanese office environment. Also brilliant comedy.

    • @dacodastrack7271
      @dacodastrack7271 5 років тому +8

      God bless your soul

    • @Hwyadylaw
      @Hwyadylaw 5 років тому +143

      It's not exclusive to Japan, but compared to the west (broadly speaking) it's far more extreme.

    • @Nippontradamus
      @Nippontradamus 5 років тому +5

      It also reminded me of the Honest Series by AIB. They had the same juxtaposition of the honest stuff with calm and normal faces and gestures.

    • @YumiFMB
      @YumiFMB 5 років тому +33

      It is taken to a whole other level in Japan, however

    • @IronicHavoc
      @IronicHavoc 5 років тому +9

      There are degrees of it though that can vary significantly by culture. I even see plenty of Japanese people comment on how blunt Westerners can be by comparison.

  • @rompom3833
    @rompom3833 6 років тому

    I am so happy that I found your channel! I have been binge watching from yesterday, you are a true genius!!!!

  • @ana-maria2215
    @ana-maria2215 6 років тому

    Been watching your videos for the past hour. Your sarcasm is so on point everytime, I love it

  • @nayde1592
    @nayde1592 4 роки тому +11

    突然の女だからに吹いたw

  • @christahorton4964
    @christahorton4964 6 років тому

    I thought that he gave him a bottle of water at frist lol. U never fail to make me smile. Thanks for another great video!

  • @architrixs
    @architrixs 5 років тому

    This was great, I found a awesome channel, subscribed.

  • @animegirl5165
    @animegirl5165 6 років тому +99

    For not being a female employee, Dogen, you sure are serving DAT TEA *badummtsssss*

  • @50m_regent
    @50m_regent 4 роки тому +1

    I like how you translate 俺こういうの食わんし to My dog will love these

  • @esotericist
    @esotericist 4 роки тому

    one of your funniest vids. P.S. please do some more teaching vids.

  • @lacdelsur
    @lacdelsur 5 років тому

    Man you're great. Subscribed.

  • @dexxed919
    @dexxed919 4 роки тому

    OMMMMG you are sooooo freaking good.....

  • @dahliacross3584
    @dahliacross3584 5 років тому

    Will share this video with my JTEs at our dinner next week ngl

  • @johnsalchichon3605
    @johnsalchichon3605 3 роки тому

    Dogen san the best japanese youtuber

  • @deedanner6431
    @deedanner6431 4 роки тому +11

    "Because you're a woman."😂

  • @nowgaku
    @nowgaku 6 років тому

    これは秀逸、間違いなし。

  • @cinnamonstick8092
    @cinnamonstick8092 4 роки тому +39

    いやいやいやいや…日本人の考えてること、よくご存知!
    あなたは千里眼ですか?DOGENさん?💥🤭🍥

  • @nami4978
    @nami4978 3 роки тому +7

    むしろ外国の人にはもう少し建前を覚えてほしい。
    カナダの学校の初日、先生が聞いてもいないのにいきなり「私寿司嫌いなの」って言ってきてびっくりした。
    カナダ滞在中美味しいと思ったご飯一つもなかったけど、失礼だからそんなこと絶対にカナダ人には言わないよ。
    アメリカいたときに、「日本人は犬食べるから嫌い」だとか、私が病気になったときに「伝染りたくないんだけど」とか、そういうことを面と向かって言われて、それが本音なんだろうけど嫌な気持ちになった。
    つーか、犬なんか食わないわ。
    相手のこと考えないで自分の言いたいこと言い過ぎるからくだらない争いがなくならないんじゃないのかな

    • @m0ppu
      @m0ppu Рік тому +1

      それは「本音を言っちゃった」というの問題ではなくて、差別でしょう?問題は、そもそもそのような考えを持つことだと思う。悪い思考パターンを正すには、それを声に出して聞くしかないかも、社会的に

  • @mayachow5972
    @mayachow5972 6 років тому

    I FRICKAN LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

  • @osleff
    @osleff 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video!