My theory about Bijuu being stronger than Jinchuriki does agree with yours, but it also has another note. All the Bijuu Chakra contained in a Mountain-Sized body, vs being contained in a human-sized body. One could imagine there's quite a bit of strength difference there!
this is a really well made video, I dont know much about Yagura as yeah hes not really seen much in the none filler anime episodes (I only watched the anime skipping filler so no manga either) but I do know hes pretty highly thought of in the community so I can imagine him being in high Jonin is gunna be a BEEEEEG hot take for some people xD
Great vid. Personally I've always believed Kurama statement about rankings between the bijuu could be shown via tail numbers.. I feel feat wise there's enough proof to believe so. Half of kurama as we know was able to match multiple bijuu
I think the three tails was "weaker" than the others because he was written in the early parts of Shippuden, at that point if I remember correctly we've only seen Shukaku and Kurama two tailed beasts who were constantly raging, so the idea of them being dumb and mindless made sense. The turning point actually seems to be Killer Bee since with him we saw Gyuki the first smart Tailed Beast, who wasn't on a rampage. Also Isobu may have not freed Yagura since he could've been trapped under the genjutsu aswell. As for ranking the Tailed Beasts I think something to take into consideration are their special traits some of them have Kekkei Genkai, some have really weird abilities and others have like Kurama just have alot of Chakra. The only ones with high Chakra seems to be Gyuki and Kurama so they are on the top, then there are the Kekkei Genkai ones that being 1,4 and 5 tails and lastly there are the one with neither high chakra nor Kekkei Genkai 2, 3, 6 and 7 tails. Taking this and some feats into consideration it seems to be: Kurama (9) [Probably dont an explanation] Gyuki (8) [Probably dont an explanation] Son Goku (4) [Seemed to give Naruto and Bee the most trouble] Shukaku (1) [Is often in the spotlight, plus Gyuki told Kurama not to look down on him because of the tail count] Kokuo (5) [Boil Release seems broken for good Jinchuriki but not so much for the Tailed Beast itself] Saiken (6) [Utakata killed two Pains without undergoing a complete transformation, Jiraiya a Kage level shinobi defeated three] Chomei (7) [Is interchangeable with Matabi both lost to Kakuzu and Hidan] Matabi (2) [see Chomei] Isobu (3) [lost to Deidara maybe in a weakened state but still also like previously mentioned may have been caught under Obitos Genjutsu]
Yeah, I think Obito put 3 tails under genjutsu with diedera then using a bomb to subdue it. Ibosu was the tailed beast that was sealed in Rin, and I don’t think it was coincidence that obito went on the mission to capture it. Then there’s that line where goofy obito/tobi says something like “I took it down all by myself”
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I feel like all the Biju except for 9 tail and 8 tails were treated poorly. It dosn't make any sence breaking up one of the most powerful beings (10 tails) to 9 diffrent beings and dividing their powers but making 2 of them exceptionaly stronger then the rest for the plot.
The Bijuu ranking is simple to some extent, the 8 and 9 tails are definitly on a different level then the others with the 9 being easily the most powerful of the 2 but the 8th can at Least somewhat stand up to it in a 1v1 it's ranking the last to 3th strongest of them that can get tough.
Realistically Shukaku being able to tank attacks from Alive Sage Mode Madara and actually harm him should put him far above high Kage considering EMS Sasuke got neg diffed who should be relative to KCM2 Naruto.
@@weeaboo-warrior absolutely not. He could react to unstable Juubito's attacks and match the power of Naruto's tailed beast bomb with a Susanoo arrow. He's at the very least relative to KCM2.
@@genericwhitemale9566 that was with Kurama chakra that amps people by at least 4x and Jugo’s sage mode which amps people by around 10x. So you could argue Sasuke was 40x stronger than normal there.
@@weeaboo-warrior 1. It was the curse mark, aka hood sage mode, aka nowhere near as big an amp as Sage Mode itself. If it was anywhere near the same boost, CM2 Sasuke would've one shot One Tail Naruto. 2. The Curse Mark isn't a multiplier, it's a flat power addition. It being a multiplier is a misconception from an old guide which stated that it boosted Jirobo by 10X. It boosted Jirobo by 10X because his Base was weak as fuck, like low Chunin level. Hebi Sasuke never got a power up nearly as big from it as that despite being far better at using it than Jirobo because his Base was already Low Kage level so the power addition didn't do much for him. It's why he only ever uses it for the Wings in Shippuden even though a 10X multiplier would've allowed him to speed run most other fights. EMS Sasuke would've gotten basically no amp from it whatsoever and he only had it so he could harm Juubito with Sage attacks. 3. The amp he was getting from Kurama + the curse mark would've been nowhere near enough to close the gap between KCM1 and 2. Edit: 4. I might be remembering this wrong but wasn't Naruto also in KCM2 Sage Mode too? If so, Sasuke was capable of matching a Tailed Beast Bomb from KCM2 Sage Mode Naruto which proves my point further. If I'm wrong, ignore this one.
@@genericwhitemale9566 Curse mark is the 10x boost. Sage mode would actually be more. Every sound 4 member had a 10x boost, this was stated. This means part 1 Sasuke also got a 10x boost in his curse mark stage 2 form.
The Bijuus from 1 to 7 being all relative in power seems to be ok to me. Even their TBBs where all relatively similar in power. Now I wonder what the lore reason for Kurama being OOMs stronger than all of them is (cause I know that the actual reason is "protag power").
The thing is that people confuse Kurama with Naruto fighting against 5 of them, under the control of Obito, as just Kurama. A Jinjuriky alongside his beast it's stronger than the individual beast. They are capable of more than mindless fighting. And under Obito, the beasts where poorly controlled. He has to concentrate on multiple bodies and just started using the Rinenngan. Kurama and Naruto didn't just defeat them in show of strength, they maneuvered them around and took them out, by being smarter. The road thing was the goal. Those bodies, being reincarnations, even have unlimited chakra and are self-regenerating. Even the TBB was Kurama overcharging his and firing it, so that the two would detonate. No figthr uses full power and full energy all the time, in one attack. After that Kurama and Naruto were in danger, as they cloud not keep up. Kurama even states that they are not capable of keeping up, being their first time. they had to be smarter and end it quickly.
@@jahluu6825 The other TB aren't buffed by the Jinjuriky as the Jinjuriky bodies are not the actual persons. They are Obito extensions. They work similar to the Paths of Pain, where Obito has to control them. The caster, Obito, controls their every movement, neither Bijuu or Jinjuriky having any control, or comboying anything in the fight. Obito has to divert attention to multiple bodies (something we see him struggling with the ten tails), bodies he has no knowledge of, fresh bodies for him. We see Naruto train and have to practice even basic abilities like those of Kurama (island training with Bee) or have the help of the beasts (war fights). In order for a Jinjuriky+Beast combo to happen the 2 have to be in control and work together, so that neither party fights the other and can actually add their abilities together. In the case of Kurama, for example, Naruto purifying the chakra and using it to create the construct, instead of solidifying the body and obtaining a full body fox. The only case on screen of someone having full control over the individual abilities is war-arc Naruto, after the beasts have small portions of their chakra sealed in him. Naruto spends very little time in locating the rods (we see him locating them as they fight), and the entire point was that they both control the construct, so that they can maneuver in a more controlled way. We actively see him try to fight alongside the fox. Kurama is not the one in control of the construct alone. He even laments that they can't keep it up for long, as it was the first time. They are in sync, with both parties working towards a goal. That's the nature of a perfect Jinjuriky. 2 minds, with distinct abilities, working together, towards a singular goal, where they can add their abilities and experience, and can divert attention towards different tasks, without one making things harder for the other.
I don't think it's just the fact that jinchuriki know how to use chakra but that they can use each other's chakra Naruto's tailed beast bomb was him and kurama working together though they did wreck the others
So Tsunade and Raikage are below ANY tailed beast? That's hard cap And since Master Jinchuriki>Tailed Beast does that mean that Hidan and Kakuzu are High Kage?
Hidan and Kakuzu didn't beat a perfect jinchuriki, and even if Yugito was one, they likely only won due to Hidan's specially ability where he hurts his opponent by stabbing himself. All he had to do was get a little bit of blood and then he can one shot. And yeah, I don't think Tsunade and the Raikage have anything to put them over any tailed beast except the 3 tails without a host. You could argue they are in the same tier as them though. The 3rd Raikage was equal to the 8 tails, so the 4th Raikage and Tsunade migiht be equal to some of the weaker tailed beasts.
Fused Momoshiki vs Kaguya. Who do you think is winning ? I personally believe kaguya should win due to having better feats momo doesn't have any impressive feat other than getting bullied by fatigued Naruto and Sasuke.
I have been keeping up with it. I will definitely make more OPM content in the future. I probably won’t make chapter reviews unless I get more free time.
I think you underestimating the tailed beast and the jinchuriki when they were reanimated the tailed beasts got suppressed to the point where son Goku was the only one that could move out of his own free will and that was just to swallow Naruto
The akatsuki couldn't kill the jinchuriki and jinchuriki can regenerate organs shown in the naruto vs sasuke fight in part 1. This is just me nitpicking me.
@@weeaboo-warrior You mean the one about him being stronger than 8 Tails Bee isn’t one? Since his dad is = to a non perfect Jinchuriki 8 tails LMAO. And Perfect Jinchuriki are superior to regular Bijuu. His dad stalemated the 8 Tails constantly, Ay is stated to be stronger than Bee in his 8 Tails form.
@@groudonfanatic9146 No he isn’t lmao. Ay is never stated to be stronger than Bee in his 8 tails form. In fact, base Bee overpowered Ay, lol. The statement you are talking about just said his chakra levels were bijuu level, that’s it.
@@weeaboo-warrior yes i watched it but i still don't get it, cuz this right now in the boruto serie she is te strongest (maybe after naruto and sasuke cuz they losted a big part of their powers) that's a big pill to swallow
I like the theory that any tail is 2 times weaker than the next one 10 tail - 100% 9 tail - 50% 8 tail - 25% 7 tail - 12.5% 6 tail - 6.25% 5 tail - 3.125% 4 tail - 1.5625 3 tail - 0.78125 2 tail - 0.390625 1 tail - 0.1953125 But hey that's just a theory . A Anime Theory
I don’t agree with this. The 1 tails was still relevant in the fight against Madara so it wouldn’t make sense for him to be that weak. Maybe each beast is like 10-20% stronger than the next, with the 9 tails being much stronger than the others.
These videos are very well made, and you definitely don't get the views you deserve. Best of lucks on making videos.
Thanks!
Agreed
My theory about Bijuu being stronger than Jinchuriki does agree with yours, but it also has another note. All the Bijuu Chakra contained in a Mountain-Sized body, vs being contained in a human-sized body. One could imagine there's quite a bit of strength difference there!
Great list overall, the only thing I would argue for is Yagura to be at least low Kage tier and maybe Rōshi a bit higher
I literally thought about this last week. Thanks for manifesting
this is a really well made video, I dont know much about Yagura as yeah hes not really seen much in the none filler anime episodes (I only watched the anime skipping filler so no manga either) but I do know hes pretty highly thought of in the community so I can imagine him being in high Jonin is gunna be a BEEEEEG hot take for some people xD
It is
A literal kage should be kage level lol at least low kage
More in detail than I expected. Nice!
Great vid. Personally I've always believed Kurama statement about rankings between the bijuu could be shown via tail numbers.. I feel feat wise there's enough proof to believe so. Half of kurama as we know was able to match multiple bijuu
I think the three tails was "weaker" than the others because he was written in the early parts of Shippuden, at that point if I remember correctly we've only seen Shukaku and Kurama two tailed beasts who were constantly raging, so the idea of them being dumb and mindless made sense. The turning point actually seems to be Killer Bee since with him we saw Gyuki the first smart Tailed Beast, who wasn't on a rampage. Also Isobu may have not freed Yagura since he could've been trapped under the genjutsu aswell.
As for ranking the Tailed Beasts I think something to take into consideration are their special traits some of them have Kekkei Genkai, some have really weird abilities and others have like Kurama just have alot of Chakra. The only ones with high Chakra seems to be Gyuki and Kurama so they are on the top, then there are the Kekkei Genkai ones that being 1,4 and 5 tails and lastly there are the one with neither high chakra nor Kekkei Genkai 2, 3, 6 and 7 tails. Taking this and some feats into consideration it seems to be:
Kurama (9) [Probably dont an explanation]
Gyuki (8) [Probably dont an explanation]
Son Goku (4) [Seemed to give Naruto and Bee the most trouble]
Shukaku (1) [Is often in the spotlight, plus Gyuki told Kurama not to look down on him because of the tail count]
Kokuo (5) [Boil Release seems broken for good Jinchuriki but not so much for the Tailed Beast itself]
Saiken (6) [Utakata killed two Pains without undergoing a complete transformation, Jiraiya a Kage level shinobi defeated three]
Chomei (7) [Is interchangeable with Matabi both lost to Kakuzu and Hidan]
Matabi (2) [see Chomei]
Isobu (3) [lost to Deidara maybe in a weakened state but still also like previously mentioned may have been caught under Obitos Genjutsu]
Yeah, I think Obito put 3 tails under genjutsu with diedera then using a bomb to subdue it. Ibosu was the tailed beast that was sealed in Rin, and I don’t think it was coincidence that obito went on the mission to capture it. Then there’s that line where goofy obito/tobi says something like “I took it down all by myself”
deidara states that the reason the 3 tails was so easy to capture was because it lacked a jinchuriki host, so you can say that it was nerfed
for me kokuo is third strongest honestly
Great video, Very detailed and do you think top tiers of boruto have planetary levels of power.
Thanks, and possibly.
I could only guess that because he’s a turtle, he’s not as fast or dangerous, but dope tier lists G
Thanks
super well explained!!!
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Scaling:
Black clover
Overlord
Bakugan (Brawlers intelect)
DC
League of Legends
Ben 10
Bayblade
Kung fu panda
HunterXHunter
Wither
Bleach
Dragon Prince
and the best: Shrek (including puss in boots 2 movies)
I love you videos so much
Yagura is literally the mizuKAGE, how's he just high jonin??
watch the video
I feel like all the Biju except for 9 tail and 8 tails were treated poorly. It dosn't make any sence breaking up one of the most powerful beings (10 tails) to 9 diffrent beings and dividing their powers but making 2 of them exceptionaly stronger then the rest for the plot.
The Bijuu ranking is simple to some extent, the 8 and 9 tails are definitly on a different level then the others with the 9 being easily the most powerful of the 2 but the 8th can at Least somewhat stand up to it in a 1v1 it's ranking the last to 3th strongest of them that can get tough.
Yep
Realistically Shukaku being able to tank attacks from Alive Sage Mode Madara and actually harm him should put him far above high Kage considering EMS Sasuke got neg diffed who should be relative to KCM2 Naruto.
I think EMS Sasuke is relative to KCM1 Naruto, not KCM2.
@@weeaboo-warrior absolutely not. He could react to unstable Juubito's attacks and match the power of Naruto's tailed beast bomb with a Susanoo arrow. He's at the very least relative to KCM2.
@@genericwhitemale9566 that was with Kurama chakra that amps people by at least 4x and Jugo’s sage mode which amps people by around 10x. So you could argue Sasuke was 40x stronger than normal there.
@@weeaboo-warrior 1. It was the curse mark, aka hood sage mode, aka nowhere near as big an amp as Sage Mode itself. If it was anywhere near the same boost, CM2 Sasuke would've one shot One Tail Naruto.
2. The Curse Mark isn't a multiplier, it's a flat power addition. It being a multiplier is a misconception from an old guide which stated that it boosted Jirobo by 10X. It boosted Jirobo by 10X because his Base was weak as fuck, like low Chunin level. Hebi Sasuke never got a power up nearly as big from it as that despite being far better at using it than Jirobo because his Base was already Low Kage level so the power addition didn't do much for him. It's why he only ever uses it for the Wings in Shippuden even though a 10X multiplier would've allowed him to speed run most other fights. EMS Sasuke would've gotten basically no amp from it whatsoever and he only had it so he could harm Juubito with Sage attacks.
3. The amp he was getting from Kurama + the curse mark would've been nowhere near enough to close the gap between KCM1 and 2.
Edit: 4. I might be remembering this wrong but wasn't Naruto also in KCM2 Sage Mode too? If so, Sasuke was capable of matching a Tailed Beast Bomb from KCM2 Sage Mode Naruto which proves my point further. If I'm wrong, ignore this one.
@@genericwhitemale9566 Curse mark is the 10x boost. Sage mode would actually be more. Every sound 4 member had a 10x boost, this was stated. This means part 1 Sasuke also got a 10x boost in his curse mark stage 2 form.
The Bijuus from 1 to 7 being all relative in power seems to be ok to me. Even their TBBs where all relatively similar in power. Now I wonder what the lore reason for Kurama being OOMs stronger than all of them is (cause I know that the actual reason is "protag power").
he the only one with fingers
The thing is that people confuse Kurama with Naruto fighting against 5 of them, under the control of Obito, as just Kurama. A Jinjuriky alongside his beast it's stronger than the individual beast. They are capable of more than mindless fighting. And under Obito, the beasts where poorly controlled. He has to concentrate on multiple bodies and just started using the Rinenngan. Kurama and Naruto didn't just defeat them in show of strength, they maneuvered them around and took them out, by being smarter. The road thing was the goal. Those bodies, being reincarnations, even have unlimited chakra and are self-regenerating. Even the TBB was Kurama overcharging his and firing it, so that the two would detonate. No figthr uses full power and full energy all the time, in one attack. After that Kurama and Naruto were in danger, as they cloud not keep up. Kurama even states that they are not capable of keeping up, being their first time. they had to be smarter and end it quickly.
@@dancorneanu9144 Kurama had control at the time because naruto was looking for the rods in sage mode
@@dancorneanu9144 also the other tailed beasts were being buffed in a similar way to the jinjuriki
@@jahluu6825 The other TB aren't buffed by the Jinjuriky as the Jinjuriky bodies are not the actual persons. They are Obito extensions. They work similar to the Paths of Pain, where Obito has to control them. The caster, Obito, controls their every movement, neither Bijuu or Jinjuriky having any control, or comboying anything in the fight. Obito has to divert attention to multiple bodies (something we see him struggling with the ten tails), bodies he has no knowledge of, fresh bodies for him. We see Naruto train and have to practice even basic abilities like those of Kurama (island training with Bee) or have the help of the beasts (war fights). In order for a Jinjuriky+Beast combo to happen the 2 have to be in control and work together, so that neither party fights the other and can actually add their abilities together. In the case of Kurama, for example, Naruto purifying the chakra and using it to create the construct, instead of solidifying the body and obtaining a full body fox. The only case on screen of someone having full control over the individual abilities is war-arc Naruto, after the beasts have small portions of their chakra sealed in him.
Naruto spends very little time in locating the rods (we see him locating them as they fight), and the entire point was that they both control the construct, so that they can maneuver in a more controlled way. We actively see him try to fight alongside the fox. Kurama is not the one in control of the construct alone. He even laments that they can't keep it up for long, as it was the first time. They are in sync, with both parties working towards a goal. That's the nature of a perfect Jinjuriky. 2 minds, with distinct abilities, working together, towards a singular goal, where they can add their abilities and experience, and can divert attention towards different tasks, without one making things harder for the other.
I don't think it's just the fact that jinchuriki know how to use chakra but that they can use each other's chakra Naruto's tailed beast bomb was him and kurama working together though they did wreck the others
So Tsunade and Raikage are below ANY tailed beast? That's hard cap
And since Master Jinchuriki>Tailed Beast does that mean that Hidan and Kakuzu are High Kage?
Hidan and Kakuzu didn't beat a perfect jinchuriki, and even if Yugito was one, they likely only won due to Hidan's specially ability where he hurts his opponent by stabbing himself. All he had to do was get a little bit of blood and then he can one shot. And yeah, I don't think Tsunade and the Raikage have anything to put them over any tailed beast except the 3 tails without a host. You could argue they are in the same tier as them though. The 3rd Raikage was equal to the 8 tails, so the 4th Raikage and Tsunade migiht be equal to some of the weaker tailed beasts.
Fused Momoshiki vs Kaguya.
Who do you think is winning ?
I personally believe kaguya should win due to having better feats momo doesn't have any impressive feat other than getting bullied by fatigued Naruto and Sasuke.
I would probably side with Kaguya as well.
@@weeaboo-warrior we seem to agree a lot lol
@@mephisto........7746 Great minds think alike.
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tobirama, kurenai, kinkaku and ginkaku are underrated imo
Have you consider returning to the One punch man manga . Latest chapters are crazy
I have been keeping up with it. I will definitely make more OPM content in the future. I probably won’t make chapter reviews unless I get more free time.
RIP Kurama
xmen 1997 tierlist please ; the series is getting a continuation next year
I think you underestimating the tailed beast and the jinchuriki when they were reanimated the tailed beasts got suppressed to the point where son Goku was the only one that could move out of his own free will and that was just to swallow Naruto
Obito was stopping them from going into full tailed beast mode, but that doesn’t mean once in full tailed beast mode they weren’t at full power.
how big is ttgl from gurren lagann.
can shinra beat goku?
The akatsuki couldn't kill the jinchuriki and jinchuriki can regenerate organs shown in the naruto vs sasuke fight in part 1.
This is just me nitpicking me.
You do know Ay bullies his dad right? LMFAO
He doesn’t, and he never did.
@@weeaboo-warrior LMAO, I’m talking about via statements.
@@groudonfanatic9146 yeah, no statements suggest that.
@@weeaboo-warrior You mean the one about him being stronger than 8 Tails Bee isn’t one? Since his dad is = to a non perfect Jinchuriki 8 tails LMAO. And Perfect Jinchuriki are superior to regular Bijuu. His dad stalemated the 8 Tails constantly, Ay is stated to be stronger than Bee in his 8 Tails form.
@@groudonfanatic9146 No he isn’t lmao. Ay is never stated to be stronger than Bee in his 8 tails form. In fact, base Bee overpowered Ay, lol. The statement you are talking about just said his chakra levels were bijuu level, that’s it.
forgot the 10 tails (unless Juubi was purposefully not included)
I didn’t include the juubi because I talk about it in my ultimate Naruto tier list video. I recommend checking that video out.
@@weeaboo-warrior 👌
brooo dude keep sakura in high kage tierrrr, are you crazyyy
What?
@@weeaboo-warrior how did sakura got up there in high kage tier. she cannot be stonger als the third hokage
@@ineza167 watch my Naruto tier list video, I explain everyone’s placement
@@weeaboo-warrior yes i watched it but i still don't get it, cuz this right now in the boruto serie she is te strongest (maybe after naruto and sasuke cuz they losted a big part of their powers) that's a big pill to swallow
i made some little mistakes but do you see where I'm getting
Basically Kurama Is right
I like the theory that any tail is 2 times weaker than the next one
10 tail - 100%
9 tail - 50%
8 tail - 25%
7 tail - 12.5%
6 tail - 6.25%
5 tail - 3.125%
4 tail - 1.5625
3 tail - 0.78125
2 tail - 0.390625
1 tail - 0.1953125
But hey that's just a theory . A Anime Theory
I don’t agree with this. The 1 tails was still relevant in the fight against Madara so it wouldn’t make sense for him to be that weak. Maybe each beast is like 10-20% stronger than the next, with the 9 tails being much stronger than the others.
@@weeaboo-warrior I also figure shukaku is probably number 1 defensively
@@modernyin6275 that is definitely likely based off his statement