What I like about these is how I think I understand these common F1 race factors, but in reality only at the surface level. I don't care that these videos are few and far between, as long as they keep on coming. Good work mate
I’m so glad I came across your channel. I’m currently an engineering student and I love your simplistic approach to some of the diagrams you you have. Awesome job
Given the powerful undercut of the recent 2021 French GP, it might be worth re-releasing this video with fresh audio. The content is excellent, as always, but the audio detracts from it. I'm sure there are many recent fans who'd love the explanation of the undercut, I did!
Given the massive jump in quality between the current videos and the past, I'm sure many people would love if he remade them and updated them. I would!
Watching this after your latest French Grand Prix 2021 explainer on Verstappen's undercut on Hamilton... And my god the evolution!!! Keep it up Bear! Really awesome content since forever! ✌🏼
whoa, I found your channel from your recent content and looking back into your past is crazy. The production value and video quality really improved alot. Pretty cool to see
I feel the crucial point that is missed is that the undercut is actually designed to gain track position. If you stop earlier or later, depending on the condition at the time, your goal is to get in front of your rival. Its not really about total race time, because theoretically, two even matched cars will pull the same total race time in clear air, regardless of whether or not they make a stop on lap 20 or lap 21. After all, the second stint tyres will be more worn towards the end of the race if compared to your rival if you try to undercut him. Track position is the key consideration here, not cumulative lap time
Yes, if you make a pitstop earlier you gain an immediate advantage and could possibly overtake an opponent - but then he will be very close behind you on tires that are fresher than yours. I can see it being advantageous on tracks that offer few opportunities for overtaking, but on tracks that let you overtake easier it would be a problem.
Nikola Tasev I see what you are saying and I agree, but running close behind the other car would slow them down a lot due to 'dirty air' depending on the track (especially at a track like Silverstone with lots of fast corners) and damage the tyres, so in some cases the advantages of the undercut could be neutralised or exaggerated based on the variables we both mentioned.
great effort! this explanation is easy to understand. undercut is very commonly used in motorsports that still allow refueling, and is proven to be very effective especially if the safety car out just right at the pit window.
Excellent explanation. Amazed the strategy works so well in reality though, because intuitively I wouldn't expect the last lap before pitting on worn tyres (when leader stays out for the extra lap) to be particularly slower than the first lap after pits with brand new cold tyres (undercutting car strategy) that don't work at their full potential until a few corners in.
Another great video! Your attempt to keep things simple and lucid for your target audience is clear, but maybe mentioning about the importance of track position would add value to the video while comparing among the 1,2 and 3 stop strategies.
Also someplace into the equation has to be getting tires up to temp. You would think that the guy coming out of the pit is going to be going slower than the car on the track because his tires are still not conditioned yet. No one ever seems to mention this
I am from the future and I can tell you that you are going to hit 100K sub and your Channel is going to become the best channel for explaining f1 to new people.
I had to laugh when this old video came up on my recommendations. The algorithm has clearly picked up on the amount of chatter surrounding undercuts in F1 after the French GP 😄
2016 : no 2017 : ehh... maybe? Nah , they dont need to see it... 2018 : uhhh no... 2019 : ah yes. The undercut... they need to know , so.... *recommended* Nice job youtube
The disadvantage to the undercut, is you now have more worn tires at the end of the stint, if you do it more than one lap. Traffic sometimes comes into play. Not criticizing your explanation... Just adding it can backfire on a team...and sometimes does
A good point to note about the undercut is that it also avoids the need to physically overtake your opponent during the race. This also helps to reduce tyre and fuel use
I know this video has been out for a very long time I just recently was able to see it after watching a lot of your newer videos I have new friends who are getting into Formula one i'd love to show this video is it possible to recreate the commentary possibly with better quality I've tried to show it on my big screen for my guys to watch it's very tough to listen to. Sorry if I sound picky if you can't do it no worries I love your videos ... Figured i'd give it a shot
how in the world have the F1 ppl not officially hired you and your crew to win over more F1 fans with your amazingly brilliant videos! Thanks a lot. Keep it up!
I believe you are missing two key elements in the explanation for the undercut: 1. How fast the driver is able to get the tires up to temperature in the outlap, after the pitstop. Certain drivers are able to drastically overperform others in their respective outlap. 2. Traffic management. Undercut = you are likely to fall behind compared to the rest of the grid position-wise. Therefore it’s a highly timing-dependent move (on top of the tire management).
Hakeem Karim It's just that rubber from the tires works it's way onto the track surface as the cars run over a race weekend. Rubber is grippy, so as more rubber is layer down, the surface provides more grip to cars running on it.
Great videos. Keep it up. I'm new to the sport of Formula 1 racing and was exposed to it through sim racing (iracing). The more I learn the more I love it.
The undercut back when there was refuelling would be pointless. Your tank would be very heavy weighing you down. The car with the much lighter fuel tank would be able to keep that lead, perhaps extend it. Tyres don't really matter as the fuel compensates
Undercut may not work in certain conditions like if the track is quite wet, but drying, and the trailing driver takes a gamble and switch to slicks or intermediates earlier. If the track is not dry enough for slicks yet, he may end up losing time on his out lap. That's what happened in Monaco this year. Ricciardo could have used this to extend his lead over Hamilton (who was struggling with his Ultrasofts on his out lap) in Monaco had it not been for that pit stop disaster that cost him the win.
So what about the fact that the undercutting car will have one lap older tyres for the rest of the race. I struggle to understand how that doesn't do more damage on the long run.
I get it that it puts you ahead the car you are chasing and wanting to overtake, but are you not racing against everyone in the race, so some drivers will go ahead of you. Anyone care to explain please, Im kind of new to F1
Taking the pit stop later is disadvantage?? I have seen so many times that staying longer on the track bring position up... Few laps with almost empty reservoir and light car means few very fast laps...
I just don’t agree on the statement that driving on harder tires is less risky because you’re driving slower, if he wants to win a race the pilot have to always drive at the limit of adherence for each type of tyre hence risking mistakes and the difference in absolute speed in corners is negligible from the point of view of safety
That's not true. In current F1, the drivers are rarely pushing to the limit. They are always managing the tyres to last until their scheduled pit stop time. So more stops means you can push the tyres harder during shorter stints and is therefore more aggressive/risky.
Stephen Whiddett actually the statement was about harder tires being safer to drive than softer because the speed is lower (besides 0.5 s over a 90s lap is
OK, I agree harder tyres are not less risky than softer tyres. But the driver will be managing the tyre which ever type it is. What I disagree with is your comment that "the pilot have to always drive at the limit of adherence". That is simply not the case for the majority of the race in current F1. Btw, if an F1 driver laps 0.5 secs slower (for a given vehicle condition) it feels like a huge difference and can be the difference between 'on the limit' and 'well within limits'.
It's a shame that the audio is quite poor & the music volume gets too overpowering over voice at times - probably flaws of your early work - otherwise this is a STELLAR, brilliant video. Well done mate!
Anyone else getting this recommended after Red Bull’s masterclass at Paul Ricard?
All hail the algorithm
can confirm
yup
Yep
@@deinemutterhatweed Lol, yep! Watched Stuart's new undercut video, now this one popped up.
What I like about these is how I think I understand these common F1 race factors, but in reality only at the surface level. I don't care that these videos are few and far between, as long as they keep on coming. Good work mate
Good content once again, however the audio quality seems to have taken a hit?
+flyhighpizzapie thank you! Audio isn't my strength, but I'm working on it. Will research harder!
perhaps a pop filter would enhance audio considerably \!
Good explanation and good constructive criticism.... When social media works!
Alternatively... 😅
Weekday a difference 5 years make ! Keep improving each "lap"
What a timely recomendation
"Timely" lmao
amazing representation of something i was able to understand but not imagine visually!
I’m so glad I came across your channel. I’m currently an engineering student and I love your simplistic approach to some of the diagrams you you have. Awesome job
Given the powerful undercut of the recent 2021 French GP, it might be worth re-releasing this video with fresh audio. The content is excellent, as always, but the audio detracts from it. I'm sure there are many recent fans who'd love the explanation of the undercut, I did!
Given the massive jump in quality between the current videos and the past, I'm sure many people would love if he remade them and updated them. I would!
Undercut also works if a faster car is stuck behind a slower car, but for this the faster car should come out in free air.
I see this video is resurfacing again after the 2021 French GP
Watching this after your latest French Grand Prix 2021 explainer on Verstappen's undercut on Hamilton... And my god the evolution!!! Keep it up Bear! Really awesome content since forever! ✌🏼
wonderful video. great information for visual learners, like me, that cant really be found on the internet. keep them coming!
2:23 Ricciardo is well aware of this.
whoa, I found your channel from your recent content and looking back into your past is crazy. The production value and video quality really improved alot. Pretty cool to see
Come on man, where have you vanished. You make the best explanation videos about F1. Please come back
Very simple & easy to understand explanation. Thank you 😊
It's been so long Chain Bear F1!
But you may want to consider changing the mic. Perhaps a Paypal donation or a Patreon is in order?
I feel the crucial point that is missed is that the undercut is actually designed to gain track position. If you stop earlier or later, depending on the condition at the time, your goal is to get in front of your rival. Its not really about total race time, because theoretically, two even matched cars will pull the same total race time in clear air, regardless of whether or not they make a stop on lap 20 or lap 21. After all, the second stint tyres will be more worn towards the end of the race if compared to your rival if you try to undercut him. Track position is the key consideration here, not cumulative lap time
I think you missed the point at the start of the video. It is explaining _how_ the undercut allows you to gain the track position.
everybody knows that
Yes, if you make a pitstop earlier you gain an immediate advantage and could possibly overtake an opponent - but then he will be very close behind you on tires that are fresher than yours.
I can see it being advantageous on tracks that offer few opportunities for overtaking, but on tracks that let you overtake easier it would be a problem.
Nikola Tasev I see what you are saying and I agree, but running close behind the other car would slow them down a lot due to 'dirty air' depending on the track (especially at a track like Silverstone with lots of fast corners) and damage the tyres, so in some cases the advantages of the undercut could be neutralised or exaggerated based on the variables we both mentioned.
wow, this channel has really come far :D
Would love to see this video redone with all the improvements you’ve made to presentation!!
well done, glad your back
By far the most under rated video on UA-cam!
great effort! this explanation is easy to understand. undercut is very commonly used in motorsports that still allow refueling, and is proven to be very effective especially if the safety car out just right at the pit window.
Excellent explanation.
Amazed the strategy works so well in reality though, because intuitively I wouldn't expect the last lap before pitting on worn tyres (when leader stays out for the extra lap) to be particularly slower than the first lap after pits with brand new cold tyres (undercutting car strategy) that don't work at their full potential until a few corners in.
AMAZINGLY EXPLAINED!
THANKS!
perfect explanations as ever!🙏
Came here from the plug on Twitter about Charles Leclerc 😂😂
The team played the kid dirty
me too....
Another great video! Your attempt to keep things simple and lucid for your target audience is clear, but maybe mentioning about the importance of track position would add value to the video while comparing among the 1,2 and 3 stop strategies.
you really need to make more, these videos are great!
This is by far the best UA-cam channel for F1 lovers
Thank you so much for your video's. It really helps me understand Formula 1 racing. Gets me excited about watching each race! Thanks!
Also someplace into the equation has to be getting tires up to temp. You would think that the guy coming out of the pit is going to be going slower than the car on the track because his tires are still not conditioned yet. No one ever seems to mention this
Excellent explanation. Thank you.
I've just discovered you and I really like your content. Keep up the good work
Wow! our videos have improved soo much since then! This video was great in itself as well, explained the concept very well
You're amazing and this is a beautiful video.
You could take a look at judging the point to switch from slicks to inters ? Another good video by the way i really enjoy these
This one is gonna blow soon I gues :D
I am from the future and I can tell you that you are going to hit 100K sub and your Channel is going to become the best channel for explaining f1 to new people.
well it worked out ;)
I love the way you show how it works even though I understand it already.
I had to laugh when this old video came up on my recommendations. The algorithm has clearly picked up on the amount of chatter surrounding undercuts in F1 after the French GP 😄
2016 : no
2017 : ehh... maybe? Nah , they dont need to see it...
2018 : uhhh no...
2019 : ah yes. The undercut... they need to know , so.... *recommended*
Nice job youtube
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@@lifame8706 LOL hi my friend
The disadvantage to the undercut, is you now have more worn tires at the end of the stint, if you do it more than one lap. Traffic sometimes comes into play. Not criticizing your explanation... Just adding it can backfire on a team...and sometimes does
Omg. Thank you so much. I just got into f1 and this was tremendously helpful
Thank you for explaining.. I will keep watching until I understand it better
Excellently executed.
A good point to note about the undercut is that it also avoids the need to physically overtake your opponent during the race. This also helps to reduce tyre and fuel use
I know this video has been out for a very long time I just recently was able to see it after watching a lot of your newer videos I have new friends who are getting into Formula one i'd love to show this video is it possible to recreate the commentary possibly with better quality I've tried to show it on my big screen for my guys to watch it's very tough to listen to. Sorry if I sound picky if you can't do it no worries I love your videos ... Figured i'd give it a shot
Great video ! but change the mic if you can .
another great video
how in the world have the F1 ppl not officially hired you and your crew to win over more F1 fans with your amazingly brilliant videos! Thanks a lot. Keep it up!
Great video man!
fantastic keep it up. great videos
Great job
You earned a sub!
Great work!
I believe you are missing two key elements in the explanation for the undercut:
1. How fast the driver is able to get the tires up to temperature in the outlap, after the pitstop. Certain drivers are able to drastically overperform others in their respective outlap.
2. Traffic management. Undercut = you are likely to fall behind compared to the rest of the grid position-wise. Therefore it’s a highly timing-dependent move (on top of the tire management).
This video is very helpful! Thanks a lot man!
Thank you. Nice video!
we need a version 2.0 of this video please... now that chain bear YT is much more awesome... :)
Now there is
@@mattiabinotto421 I spoke a little too soon... ;) :P
Thank you for making these videos :)
great explanation
Great job! 👏🏼👏🏼
Your mic has improved a lot
Haha, even I was thinking about the integral and then you did it
Could you do a video about rubbering in the track?
Hakeem Karim It's just that rubber from the tires works it's way onto the track surface as the cars run over a race weekend. Rubber is grippy, so as more rubber is layer down, the surface provides more grip to cars running on it.
Great videos. Keep it up. I'm new to the sport of Formula 1 racing and was exposed to it through sim racing (iracing). The more I learn the more I love it.
expecting more and more videos. Thank You
Fantastic!
well explained, thanks man
Cool vid!
I wish you had made more videos :(
Stuff like this so hard to find on youtube!
Who's here after french grand prix 2021 😅
The undercut back when there was refuelling would be pointless. Your tank would be very heavy weighing you down. The car with the much lighter fuel tank would be able to keep that lead, perhaps extend it. Tyres don't really matter as the fuel compensates
Undercut may not work in certain conditions like if the track is quite wet, but drying, and the trailing driver takes a gamble and switch to slicks or intermediates earlier. If the track is not dry enough for slicks yet, he may end up losing time on his out lap. That's what happened in Monaco this year. Ricciardo could have used this to extend his lead over Hamilton (who was struggling with his Ultrasofts on his out lap) in Monaco had it not been for that pit stop disaster that cost him the win.
great stuff!!
This video sbould be done again with better audio in context of great season we have now.
Great Video.
So what about the fact that the undercutting car will have one lap older tyres for the rest of the race. I struggle to understand how that doesn't do more damage on the long run.
Is the degradation of the lap times due to tyre wear linear or exponential
Who is here after Bahrain 2021?!
What I want to know is which tracks inspired your unique track design :)
This is why we need refueling back to counterbalance the effect of the undercut.
More videos, please!
Thanks to Bahrain 2021 this shows up to my feed!
Very interesting. Thanks.
I get it that it puts you ahead the car you are chasing and wanting to overtake, but are you not racing against everyone in the race, so some drivers will go ahead of you. Anyone care to explain please, Im kind of new to F1
Taking the pit stop later is disadvantage?? I have seen so many times that staying longer on the track bring position up... Few laps with almost empty reservoir and light car means few very fast laps...
These days F1 drivers are not allowed to refuel during the race, so you still have equally light car after pit stop, just better tyres.
Yeah I totally forgot on that... :/
Do you have a history in an f1 carreer?
Yes he is Jenson Buttons mechanic for BAR.
Hey just a tip. ( I don't want to be that guy but i found this really useful) I'd update the thumbnail !
So then, why don't all teams go for a 3 stop strategy, pushing like hell during each stint?
I hope Chain Bear considers re-recording the audio for this video. I can barely make out what he's saying :(
Miss the good old days when all drivers are on hard slicks and having a lighter car with less fuel was the real deal.
this will boom now
Educative video, but the sound quality made it very difficult to make out what was being said.
Okay, now I have to ask what you do for a living to explain things this well. . . So. . .What do you do for a living?
I just don’t agree on the statement that driving on harder tires is less risky because you’re driving slower, if he wants to win a race the pilot have to always drive at the limit of adherence for each type of tyre hence risking mistakes and the difference in absolute speed in corners is negligible from the point of view of safety
That's not true. In current F1, the drivers are rarely pushing to the limit. They are always managing the tyres to last until their scheduled pit stop time. So more stops means you can push the tyres harder during shorter stints and is therefore more aggressive/risky.
Stephen Whiddett actually the statement was about harder tires being safer to drive than softer because the speed is lower (besides 0.5 s over a 90s lap is
OK, I agree harder tyres are not less risky than softer tyres. But the driver will be managing the tyre which ever type it is. What I disagree with is your comment that "the pilot have to always drive at the limit of adherence". That is simply not the case for the majority of the race in current F1. Btw, if an F1 driver laps 0.5 secs slower (for a given vehicle condition) it feels like a huge difference and can be the difference between 'on the limit' and 'well within limits'.
It's a shame that the audio is quite poor & the music volume gets too overpowering over voice at times - probably flaws of your early work - otherwise this is a STELLAR, brilliant video. Well done mate!
I like this video a lot, but you could think about redoing it with better audio...
Strategy during safety car periods!
Great work, great videos, but please improve your audio quality.
This is brilliant content! Could someone send this to Ferrari please?