I had a house fire, and had several thousand rounds of various caliber explode in the fire. I told the firemen before they went in the house, but they weren't concerned at all. Unconstrained shells exploding like this just dont concentrate the energy in one direction just as this video shows, and against their fire protection, there was no increased danger from the shells. I had never thought about it before - Good to see this video to see it firsthand and slowed down!
this is not the real truth. if the impact mechanism had not been fixed and the bullet jammed, the shell would have flown away from the shot because of the physical reaction and because it is lighter. (used google translator)
@@MikeHoncho0811 WOW! Mine were in a basement, so there was no way out, but yeah, mine were all over the basement too. I kept a few just for memories.. bad memories, but memories none the less.. Coming up on my 8 year anniversary of our fire.
Its as loud as it would be in a shotgun. I did a test once of firing a de-powdered,de-pelleted, primered shell in a shotgun. I was shocked at how loud it was! A flame even protruded from the end of the barrel. You may have the neighbour’s calling the cops on you if you do a test in your backyard...assuming your backyard is in a residential area.
i think these trip alarms are more or less just to alert the occupants with the sound of a shotgun shell, and also to scare anyone trying to bust into your home. Hearing a shotgun shell go off next to your leg would be real scary. Great video
Interesting video. Maybe similar setup with high power rounds as the crimped bullet in the harder casing may produce different results. A gunshop had a fire sparked by someone grinding and I happened to drive past at the moment. Sounded like a massive gunfight. Five people died in the process. Can you imagine ammo going off in every direction. Allan
I would imagine those devices are more for making some noise to scare off an intruder in your home or to wake you up/scare of an animal at a campsite if you set it up with a tripwire, as opposed to actually hurting someone
@@josephnoneofyourbeeswax8517 I assumed there are special 'alarm shells' to go with this thing and using bird shot is not the right thing to do / illegal?
Generally speaking, one is not allowed to set traps for humans. In fact, trapping animals requires a license, as does shooting them. I don't know of any jurisdiction that issues licenses for killing humans.
We used the 12 gauge boat flares in ours. Angle them up and they'll still go a good distance. My friend also reloaded a few shells using Pyrotex black powder. Put them in a 2 inch piece of PVC and dude, loud is an understatement.
Everybody, over to Bill’s house, his wife is at her sisters for the weekend, he’s got a keg, a pool, and a good tall fence so we can do all sorts of stupid shit and put it on the UA-cam.
Interesting I’ve never seen a video of this done before. However for the case of a misfire randomly going off on the ground it would do even less damage, the shell in this test is being held firm, if there’s nothing holding it then the casing would go flying back, this dissipating the energy even more. Better to be safe though, if you get a misfire dispose of it safely
It is not just the length of the shotgun barrel that causes higher velocity for the shot column. The restriction caused by both the shotshell crimp and the shot wad obturating the barrel creates the pressure required to complete the burn sequence, allowing the powder to create pressures many magnitudes greater than that displayed in the video.
Surprisingly I've never seen this done on camera before. Very cool slow motion on this one. I used to use shotgun shells as exploding targets for my airgun/.22
Be very careful. When I was 10 I lodged one in the crack of a log thinking I would split it. I shot it with my Crossman .177 and the primer went into my thigh. It burned like hell and hurt even worse when I dug it out. I had to keep it a secret from my parents or they would confiscate my rifle.
I have had the misfortune to have a 12guage shotgun round explode in an open chamber and it is NOT what id recommend .I repeated the exercise in a safer manner (for my face) and eventually found the fault in the gun. the first case blew to pieces ,the second brass head seperated from plastic case. DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT THIS!!
In my Arizona hunter safety class, about 38 years ago, the instructor did this in a paper bag while holding in his hands. Mind you this was when the world used evil and thick paper bags that most have never known. You could actually put 20lbs. of dog poop in one as long as it did not get wet. Everyone got down and not a pellet penetrated the bag.
COULDN'T HE FIND ANYTHING BUT DOG SHIT SHOOT AT? MESSED UP...MAYBE THEY CAN GET ONE OF HOSE PEACEMAKERS LIKE I SAW HOSS CARTWRIGHTS BEHAVE...HE ACCIDENTALY DROPPED IT IN A SOTVE AND IT FIRED 14 TIMES BEFORE IT STOPPED....BULLETS CAME THROUGH THE IRON STOVE AND WENT EVERYWHERE IN THE CABIN....I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY TO WATCH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THINKING THAT AMMO WOULD SHOT OUT OF A FIRE UNCONFINED IN A CHAMBER.MY DADDY NAND GRANDADY WERE BOTH FOREMEN AND I KNEW THAT SINE ..LIKE AGE 9? WHAT DO THEY TEACH YOUNG FIREMEN NOWADAYS....AND STILL...I CANNOT FIND A "HOSS CARTWRIGHT MODEL" 14 SHOT SINGLE ACTION ARMY NOWHERES...IN THE 70S.MAYBE IT WAS A BROWNING P-35 DISGUISED AS A COLT?.DANGIT.
TAOFLEDERMAUS you should try this with a steel tube cut to size that just fits the size of the exposed shell, I believe this would give the effect that is expected from this device
Great video in the MythBusters tradition. One hint, spray your crash-test-dummy (I never did catch his name) with white paint before each test. That way you can quantify the damage from this particular test.
TAOFLEDERMAUS you could slide a 2, or 3 inch piece of 3/4 galvanized steel pipe or a 15in over the shell in the device and it would probably dramatically increase the directional damage.
I am remarkably surprised how the majority of the shot went forward rather than spraying in every direction. That has always been my fear with an ejected hang-fire (not that I’m not going to still treat every hang-fire as if it might do just that).
There are some great old training films from Firemen's Associations showing fireman walking unconcernedly through a home on fire, with ammunition, which is scattered all over the floor, popping off. They're seen just stepping over groups of shells, seemingly with a concern for the slip-and-fall hazard of the cylindrical metal cases. It's wild, but very instructive. No barrel, no problem.
Have seen home-made mole traps that use a similar set up but put the shell in a shortened piece of pipe. The pipe contains the shell and it works like a "very short" shotgun to kill the mole. They only use low brass shells in them though, to keep from blowing the whole thing up.
Hello, guys. I wonder what will change if the shell casing will be made from brass rather than plastic? Would it work like improvised barrel or rip a part same as this one did? Not that I want to use this thing in home defence tripwire. Just wondering. Plastic cases seems to be pretty safe in case of missfire outside of a gun, but what's up with metal ones?
When on a hunt in Alaska our guide use these or something very close as a night time early warning system when camping outside but he added a piece of black pipe around 3" long and showed us a test fire that did great damage to a pine tree about 8' away. I don't not remember if the pipe thread on or just sat on the shell
If you mount that in reverse (shell faces the tripline) about 6-8 inches off the ground it makes a great early warning system and cripples the intruder. But you have to use 00-Buck or Flachete Rounds. Nothing fancy, cheap and works well. And if you can retrieve the mechanism you can use it again. Keep in mind I am speaking about SHTF scenarios here. This is not for regular home defense when you are leaving to go get dominos or some s**t.
No chamber pressure or bbl for direction. A Gibsons disc Store burned down outside of my home town back in around 77.They had a large sporting goods section with a LOT of ammo. We parked about 1/2 mile away and listened to fireworks for a couple hours.
So this is the one of few videos we see Jeff the camera man in, it's good to see ya man, thank you all for continuing our education in meny different ways. Keep up the good work. My thoughts for a future video is being this thing back but wrap the cartridge with black electrical tape, I think that'll be interesting.
I have a question on a .177 pellet propelled by a 209 primer, how fast and what are the ballistics of the low power? will they be enough to clear barn birds from sheds at night?
How about cutting a short piece of pipe and glue it over the shell it self? Since it's meant to be a point blank, single use device, all it needs to accomplish is to focus that initial shot.
Always wondered about this. If you somehow set the primer off with a rock, or dropping it just right, nice to know it'll only scare the hell out of you, and probably injury you minorly.
lol just put 400 grams of gunpowder in a tube, (iron tubing at the very least) seal an end by using a clamp to bend it together and then wield so the powder won't fall out. Also, to ignite, just stick a fast burning fuse in there to light it outside
Then you will have made a "sawed off shotgun" and you will go to jail for a very long time. The BATF & E doesn't screw around when it comes to enforcing this. They will come to your house, shoot your dog, you wife and your son - - just ask Randy Weaver all about it.
Very informative this guy has a twin brother an officer for Game and Parks for the state of Nebraska tripped me out I thought it was him I'm glad you showed this video that's why we should protect secure our live ammunition.
Something to consider: If you can get it to discharge with electricity, NO Holder, the weight of the shot exceeds the hull and the hull will launch backwards rather quickly, and that MAY be more efficacious.
Just make this device set off a loud bang when an intruder walks into your house when your not home. Then have some electronics to detect when someone set off the device and have it play an audio clip of you saying "Next one goes in your fucking head" That would be way better than ADT!
I built a perimeter alert using a Rat Trap that pops two 209 primers. Lots louder than being muffled inside a shell! But, these are well built and if you just use an empty shell with primer, it would be a great alert for intruders! 🇺🇸😎
Danny AKA Triker Red, that's what these things were built for. We tested quite a few blanks and other "interesting" rounds. Wait to you see Jeff's next video!
i'd go as far as saying that it would be even weaker, the case would blow and the slug would, at best, roll off the table. i have seen stuff like this done with hand gun rounds and what happens is that the case goes flying and the bullet stays where it is.
Cool video. But if this was to really duplicate a misfire or hang fire of an ejected shell, shouldn't the shell NOT be constrained? Constraining the shell as shown in the video forces the shot and wad forward and only allowed to go side/side or up. Id like to see what really happens to an unconstrained shell (mimicking an ejected shell).
Very interesting. I once had the spot weld on the mag tube of a Mossberg shotgun fail after a heavy session of skeet shooting. The result, Tha mag plug and barrel fell to the ground as I raised the shotgun to shoot a clay, there I saw red plastic rather then a barrel. From then I always wonder what the result would of been if I hadn't noticed the barrel missing and pulled the trigger.
A cartridge needs the build up of pressure in the chamber in order to detonate the powder. It just burns really slowly at ambient pressures and really has to be contained to ignite.
Not even close to lethal, doesn't even break lenses of glasses. Few scrapes and maybe burn. Not too effective, especially if it hit an arm or butt or leg. The only value I see in this is causing momentary disorientation
I wouldn't recommend this - in otherwise do not try this at home! But when I was teenager, I had some buddies, that had more guts than brains, but they would put bullets, as well as shotgun shells balanced in the crook of a tree, then from a distance of about 50 feet would take aim with a bb or pellet gun, shooting the primer location, depending upon the size of the ammunition & the skill of the shooter, it might take a couple tries, but generally resulted in an explosion & all the kids scattered before the adults showed up to wonder what the heck was going on...
I used to shoot the primers all the time with the BB. I did 30 06 9 mm 7 mm rifle bullets 30 30 . It would just make it pop sound it wouldn't even allowed as a firecracker. Or wasn't enough pressure if you put it in between a tree branch for the bullet to leave the casion. If you stuck it in the ground. Then the bullet would leave the casing and the casing would shred a little bit. Any bullet or shell has to have something around it for it to project has to have backup pressure. Once you do that. Then it's going to come out and it could come out from either end. I know how to make it leave both ends. I can make it come out at either end I want it to you top or the bottom or the sides. Once you learn how to do that you can make landmines. I will not give you the information how to do that. World's already bad enough.
Darin- USMC B- 85-93 , i am 47. When i was young i would set them on rocks and shoot them with my lever action 30-30 bb gun. And i will tell ya, it really honed my skills shooting wise. Damn ,the fun we had growing up. People forget, but dad and grandpa used to buy dynamite and primer cord at the hatdware store. When i got responsible enough to hunt with a real rifle, i would take primer cord and wrap around a tree. Sit back about 300 yds and bang. Pretty cool watching a tree splinter up into a billion toothpicks. Then i had to cut the tree up and split it for firewood. Kifs these days dont know the fun we had.
Lol when I was a growing up this crazy neighborhood kid made one of these tripwire contraptions by cutting a shotgun shell or bullet sized hole in a rat trap and rigged a striker pin across the snap bar...
thats a perimeter alarm. its not meant to hit anyone or keep burglars out! its meant to be around the home perimeter and will alert the owner by use of a trip wire gun shot.
I uesd a homemade version along time ago to guard my bedroom pot garden. Also don't let thay guy fool you, those pellets will easily penetrate skin if you're close
In California, a booby trap designed to do harm can definitely get you arrested, and open you up for a lawsuit by whomever gets injured by it, burglar or not. You can however have "trip" systems designed to sound alarm, noise makers and such. A primer strike only would probably be okay, but if someone gets injured, you'd better have a good lawyer and bail bondsman just in case.
Actually, every state has laws regarding booby traps and spring loaded "trip" weapons designed to do harm, burglar or not. I just used California as a reference, but a simple Google search revealed that it's basically illegal everywhere.
I actually agree with the law on this one. Its one thing to see a threat in real time and take action with a firearm but its another to have a round on a tripwire that could be forgotten about or kill an innocent person such as a kid meandering around, first responder or utility guy.
What if the shell was not sitting on the wood but hanging off the edge? The energy seemed to go upward vs. Forward. Where can you get that devise? What is is called?
Loved the video. Question: You said a couple times that this perimeter tripwire device "doesn't work", and yet it seemed to work fine. Pull wire, it goes "bang!", right? Does the maker advertise it as a device for inflicting death or injury on an intruder? That would certainly leave them open to a fat lawsuit. Maybe it's just supposed to make a loud noise.
Greetings from the Indian Himalayas -appreciate the really informative channel! Was also wondering if you could show something on shooting fish (underwater) from above ;-) Keep up the good work guys!
I saw a good cheap setup using a standard wood mouse trap. Counter sink where the steel trap metal meets the wood and press in 12ga shotgun primers and attach fishing line through the catch. You can daisy chain them too. Screw it to any tree, top & bottom, etc. Once the trap springs it sets off the primers. They can then be replaced.
matrox if your only 8 years old i dont think this is a test for you to do by yourself.please have a parent do it for you if you want to see this in person.if your not 8 sorry i got your post wrong.
Is it possible to put a uncharted primer in that device to to set your primer off. So you could use that primer for Craft projects? Or could you put a spent shell casing in that device and add a gunshot primer to your case so you could set timers off to be used for craft projects. For other cool man projects to display around your home that you could use spent shell casings for in primers. I don't know if you could answer these questions for me or not please let me know by leaving a comment. On this comment that I just left you please.
I love when you do these types of vids. You used to do them all the time! If you ever get a chance you should try making some paraboloids with water and getting some high speed cam footage.
I had a house fire, and had several thousand rounds of various caliber explode in the fire. I told the firemen before they went in the house, but they weren't concerned at all. Unconstrained shells exploding like this just dont concentrate the energy in one direction just as this video shows, and against their fire protection, there was no increased danger from the shells. I had never thought about it before - Good to see this video to see it firsthand and slowed down!
Dang
The casing typically becomes the main projectile that's what Brandon Herrera said any ways
Oh damn
this is not the real truth. if the impact mechanism had not been fixed and the bullet jammed, the shell would have flown away from the shot because of the physical reaction and because it is lighter. (used google translator)
@@MikeHoncho0811 WOW! Mine were in a basement, so there was no way out, but yeah, mine were all over the basement too. I kept a few just for memories.. bad memories, but memories none the less.. Coming up on my 8 year anniversary of our fire.
How loud is this? I was going to do something kinda like this and I'm wondering if I can get away with it in my backyard.
Its as loud as it would be in a shotgun.
I did a test once of firing a de-powdered,de-pelleted, primered shell in a shotgun. I was shocked at how loud it was! A flame even protruded from the end of the barrel.
You may have the neighbour’s calling the cops on you if you do a test in your backyard...assuming your backyard is in a residential area.
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Hol up
A bit more quiet then a 12 gauge bird shot
Wasn't expecting The backyard science in the comment section
I appreciate that you gave him cool looking glasses.
Safety first!
i think these trip alarms are more or less just to alert the occupants with the sound of a shotgun shell, and also to scare anyone trying to bust into your home. Hearing a shotgun shell go off next to your leg would be real scary. Great video
Interesting video. Maybe similar setup with high power rounds as the crimped bullet in the harder casing may produce different results. A gunshop had a fire sparked by someone grinding and I happened to drive past at the moment. Sounded like a massive gunfight. Five people died in the process. Can you imagine ammo going off in every direction. Allan
@@bobthompson8528 probly crap my pants before i got the first step moving.
Slip a piece of pipe over the shell tho and....
@Bob Thompson Great way to go to prison lmao. Only dummies would do that
I would imagine those devices are more for making some noise to scare off an intruder in your home or to wake you up/scare of an animal at a campsite if you set it up with a tripwire, as opposed to actually hurting someone
I agree. This device is an alarm, not a weapon. The video is good but their conclusion presumes things erroneously.
@@josephnoneofyourbeeswax8517 I assumed there are special 'alarm shells' to go with this thing and using bird shot is not the right thing to do / illegal?
Generally speaking, one is not allowed to set traps for humans. In fact, trapping animals requires a license, as does shooting them. I don't know of any jurisdiction that issues licenses for killing humans.
@@kennethquesenberry2610 ok, so what you mean is that I better pack up my tripwire-and-Claymores assemblies from the backyard?
@@joostdriesens3984 I'm assuming your one of the good guys.
We used the 12 gauge boat flares in ours. Angle them up and they'll still go a good distance.
My friend also reloaded a few shells using Pyrotex black powder. Put them in a 2 inch piece of PVC and dude, loud is an understatement.
ADT is for when you're away and ACP is for when you're home.
that's great!
TAOFLEDERMAUS hey keep up the good vids been watching since the beginning
cdawson198600 that should be their slogan in states with castle laws.
ADT rips you off, simplisafe charges $15 a month for monitoring and home set-ups are a couple hundred bux
mr bad example and you can set yourself one up for free. The monitoring really won't help.
"Warning: Do not try this in your home".
Duh, everybody knows you should go out in the back yard...
Yessss my neighbors probably hate me but nobody complains 🤣
Why don’t we go to friend’s house?
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Everybody, over to Bill’s house, his wife is at her sisters for the weekend, he’s got a keg, a pool, and a good tall fence so we can do all sorts of stupid shit and put it on the UA-cam.
What would happen if you put pvc tube around the shell?
Interesting I’ve never seen a video of this done before. However for the case of a misfire randomly going off on the ground it would do even less damage, the shell in this test is being held firm, if there’s nothing holding it then the casing would go flying back, this dissipating the energy even more. Better to be safe though, if you get a misfire dispose of it safely
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaake! The manekin was already dead, did nobody notice he had a screwdriver stuck in his neck? No way he could have survived that!
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What if you placed the cartridge inside a section of pipe/ metal tubing, would that hold the cartridge together long enough to function properly ?
Yes it would, we call that a “shotgun”
It is not just the length of the shotgun barrel that causes higher velocity for the shot column. The restriction caused by both the shotshell crimp and the shot wad obturating the barrel creates the pressure required to complete the burn sequence, allowing the powder to create pressures many magnitudes greater than that displayed in the video.
Surprisingly I've never seen this done on camera before. Very cool slow motion on this one. I used to use shotgun shells as exploding targets for my airgun/.22
Thank you very much! Do you plan to get one of the Chronos cameras from your fellow Canadian, David?
I'm in Michigan, but close enough to Canada. Sure would like a Chronos, I think there's still a waiting list though.
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Be very careful. When I was 10 I lodged one in the crack of a log thinking I would split it. I shot it with my Crossman .177 and the primer went into my thigh. It burned like hell and hurt even worse when I dug it out. I had to keep it a secret from my parents or they would confiscate my rifle.
What if you wrap tape around the shell? Something to reinforce it?
We weren't trying to make it work, just show what happens in this situation. I have enough to worry about besides us showing us committing a crime!
Since shotguns are low pressure I wonder if you could make a faux chamber by wrapping the shell in several layers of duct tape.
I have had the misfortune to have a 12guage shotgun round explode in an open chamber and it is NOT what id recommend .I repeated the exercise in a safer manner (for my face) and eventually found the fault in the gun. the first case blew to pieces ,the second brass head seperated from plastic case. DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT THIS!!
In my Arizona hunter safety class, about 38 years ago, the instructor did this in a paper bag while holding in his hands. Mind you this was when the world used evil and thick paper bags that most have never known. You could actually put 20lbs. of dog poop in one as long as it did not get wet. Everyone got down and not a pellet penetrated the bag.
COULDN'T HE FIND ANYTHING BUT DOG SHIT SHOOT AT? MESSED UP...MAYBE THEY CAN GET ONE OF HOSE PEACEMAKERS LIKE I SAW HOSS CARTWRIGHTS BEHAVE...HE ACCIDENTALY DROPPED IT IN A SOTVE AND IT FIRED 14 TIMES BEFORE IT STOPPED....BULLETS CAME THROUGH THE IRON STOVE AND WENT EVERYWHERE IN THE CABIN....I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY TO WATCH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THINKING THAT AMMO WOULD SHOT OUT OF A FIRE UNCONFINED IN A CHAMBER.MY DADDY NAND GRANDADY WERE BOTH FOREMEN AND I KNEW THAT SINE ..LIKE AGE 9? WHAT DO THEY TEACH YOUNG FIREMEN NOWADAYS....AND STILL...I CANNOT FIND A "HOSS CARTWRIGHT MODEL" 14 SHOT SINGLE ACTION ARMY NOWHERES...IN THE 70S.MAYBE IT WAS A BROWNING P-35 DISGUISED AS A COLT?.DANGIT.
@@millardfillmore1331 GOBLERSR DO IT FOR DALE
Jebus but your dog must have been huge 😂
the sunglasses did not even break!
Pellets did not even go into the foam
Safety glasses
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Always wear sunglasses when burglarizing a home
It's not used to shoot someone. It's used for the sound.
Safety squints on, mother on speed dial. Cooooooorntact!
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TAOFLEDERMAUS can you try this with buckshot and slugs? I know the results will probably be the same but ya never know!
TAOFLEDERMAUS you should try this with a steel tube cut to size that just fits the size of the exposed shell, I believe this would give the effect that is expected from this device
focus you fack!
Kevin Patterson I don't think it's intended design is to be a weapon, I think it's an alarm for use with special blanks (black powder I think).
Thanks for the warning! I was gonna explode all the shotgun shells lying around in my house
And if you slide a short length of gas pipe over the 12ga shell ?
Great video in the MythBusters tradition.
One hint, spray your crash-test-dummy (I never did catch his name) with white paint before each test. That way you can quantify the damage from this particular test.
Spray paint melts styrofoam (in general), though it could be dipped in enamel or whitewash in a bucket easily enough
209 shotgun primers are very powerful. They're able to launch a .50 cal round ball out of a muzzle loader
THey are pretty loud too.
TAOFLEDERMAUS you could slide a 2, or 3 inch piece of 3/4 galvanized steel pipe or a 15in over the shell in the device and it would probably dramatically increase the directional damage.
but that wouldnt really be the same now would it?
My uncles used to take out they shot and had wad fighta
Key word, used to. lol but no that sounds like it could be fun if done properly and safely.
Hey, brother, where can I buy this piece, please?
What happens if you used a heavier load like buck shot or high brass where it had more resistance to burn the powder?
wish they actually tested various ammo like brass and steel cased shells to see if it actually are effective or not
I am remarkably surprised how the majority of the shot went forward rather than spraying in every direction.
That has always been my fear with an ejected hang-fire (not that I’m not going to still treat every hang-fire as if it might do just that).
For full context I’m a duck hunter. So something like that happening in a blind is a nightmare scenario.
What make & model was the rifle at the end which folded up ?
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There are some great old training films from Firemen's Associations showing fireman walking unconcernedly through a home on fire, with ammunition, which is scattered all over the floor, popping off. They're seen just stepping over groups of shells, seemingly with a concern for the slip-and-fall hazard of the cylindrical metal cases. It's wild, but very instructive. No barrel, no problem.
Tell the fireman you have a couple dozen propane tanks, even the 1 pound units, and that's another story.
@@robertspendlove7508 indeed! And the acetylene, and the oxygen. And the propane tanks are 90lb. Yes, ammo just doesn’t keep me up at night.
Those devices are designed to be used with 12 gauge blanks, thats what I use in mine for out camping for perimeter alarm
I didn’t know OG (Officer Gregg) was starting in videos this long ago! That’s awesome!
Did they de-monetize you? I never got around to monetizing. Now I probably have unsuitable content. Dang.
I've had about 10 videos demonetized, like the evil bulletproof gummy bear video. lol
Have seen home-made mole traps that use a similar set up but put the shell in a shortened piece of pipe. The pipe contains the shell and it works like a "very short" shotgun to kill the mole. They only use low brass shells in them though, to keep from blowing the whole thing up.
You can do that with this trip device as well.
Ofcourse you could just put a steel sleeve over the length of the shell.
Could you test this?
Really cool to see this in slow motion! Liked as always! :D
thank you very much Jesse and Mike!
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Hello, guys. I wonder what will change if the shell casing will be made from brass rather than plastic? Would it work like improvised barrel or rip a part same as this one did? Not that I want to use this thing in home defence tripwire. Just wondering. Plastic cases seems to be pretty safe in case of missfire outside of a gun, but what's up with metal ones?
You would get the same results with brass .
@@cathycamm9277 so it's basically as safe, interesting.
wouldn't a small 3 inch barrel added to that device fix it? i mean it would help in containing the ignition of the shell wouldn't it?
but what if you flex taped the casing?
It's a shame what UA-cam is doing to us content creators. Great video bud!
You still a guy with a camera. "content creator" kids run more successful channel's lol.
When on a hunt in Alaska our guide use these or something very close as a night time early warning system when camping outside but he added a piece of black pipe around 3" long and showed us a test fire that did great damage to a pine tree about 8' away. I don't not remember if the pipe thread on or just sat on the shell
Problem is you're getting into legal issues if you do that. Plus imagine if a kid or someone's pet dog set off one.
Super thorough investigation. I did like the AvE reference though
Safety squints, engaged
If you mount that in reverse (shell faces the tripline) about 6-8 inches off the ground it makes a great early warning system and cripples the intruder. But you have to use 00-Buck or Flachete Rounds. Nothing fancy, cheap and works well. And if you can retrieve the mechanism you can use it again.
Keep in mind I am speaking about SHTF scenarios here. This is not for regular home defense when you are leaving to go get dominos or some s**t.
No chamber pressure or bbl for direction.
A Gibsons disc Store burned down outside of my home town back in around 77.They had a large sporting goods section with a LOT of ammo.
We parked about 1/2 mile away and listened to fireworks for a couple hours.
I wonder if you added a 3-4" sleeve over the shell how would the powder react.
It will surely fire just like in a real shotgun but only for a short range since the barrel is only 3 to 4 inches long.
So this is the one of few videos we see Jeff the camera man in, it's good to see ya man, thank you all for continuing our education in meny different ways. Keep up the good work. My thoughts for a future video is being this thing back but wrap the cartridge with black electrical tape, I think that'll be interesting.
Why not use fiberglass tape. Much tougher. (Don't do it at home and take all safety precautions on the range.)
I have a question on a .177 pellet propelled by a 209 primer, how fast and what are the ballistics of the low power? will they be enough to clear barn birds from sheds at night?
all cool things shotgun related. thanks guys!
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ADT or a chow they both work.
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The pressure that builds in the barrel of a gun is what gives a bullet its force.
How about cutting a short piece of pipe and glue it over the shell it self?
Since it's meant to be a point blank, single use device, all it needs to accomplish is to focus that initial shot.
And for what purpose? .. just buy a gun.
It's designed as a warning alarm for bears not a point blank shot
Some tape around it would get a bit better shot.
Blake Ranew how is it a federal offense?
3/4 ,4 inch black pipe,cut out slot edge slide device and shell in and bang, done.
Always wondered about this. If you somehow set the primer off with a rock, or dropping it just right, nice to know it'll only scare the hell out of you, and probably injury you minorly.
It is perimeter Alarm system. We used parachute flares in Vietnam.
I like how self aware you guys are and not afraid to poke fun at yourselves. Cool video.
Is that a Zero Tolerance knife? Love those things
I don't consider this a valid test as the shotshell was mounted to a stationary device. Doesn't really duplicate a loose shell
we'll use an unstationary device next time. Not sure how that would matter though, I'm not on your meds.
*_What if we buy a single barrel kinda thing and fix this thing at the end that would be a cheapest gun_*
Here in Phillipines we can make.a gun with only less than a dollar..its called air.gun..can kill a man with a single marble .
lol just put 400 grams of gunpowder in a tube, (iron tubing at the very least) seal an end by using a clamp to bend it together and then wield so the powder won't fall out. Also, to ignite, just stick a fast burning fuse in there to light it outside
Like a cannon, but it blows up on ye
Then you will have made a "sawed off shotgun" and you will go to jail for a very long time. The BATF & E doesn't screw around when it comes to enforcing this. They will come to your house, shoot your dog, you wife and your son - - just ask Randy Weaver all about it.
My sneeze would do much more damage and the spray density is incomparable.
Thats why you where a mask
Very informative this guy has a twin brother an officer for Game and Parks for the state of Nebraska tripped me out I thought it was him I'm glad you showed this video that's why we should protect secure our live ammunition.
I would not have guessed that the powder wouldn't ignite... But it makes sense with only plastic to contain it.
I use to work at Federal Ammunition making shot shells.
a shot shell would go off every now and then, it happened at least once a month
I had a similar experience using Federal shells. Sometimes they would go off.
Something to consider:
If you can get it to discharge with electricity, NO Holder, the weight of the shot exceeds the hull and the hull will launch backwards rather quickly, and that MAY be more efficacious.
Safety Squints! What if taofledermouse is actually ave?
you never know!
Just make this device set off a loud bang when an intruder walks into your house when your not home. Then have some electronics to detect when someone set off the device and have it play an audio clip of you saying "Next one goes in your fucking head" That would be way better than ADT!
so for the sake of information, How much of a barrel would be required to make this "function"
just enough of a barrel to cover the shell?
3 inch? 4?
Northernblades a little past the shell so the shots have some direction
I built a perimeter alert using a Rat Trap that pops two 209 primers. Lots louder than being muffled inside a shell! But, these are well built and if you just use an empty shell with primer, it would be a great alert for intruders! 🇺🇸😎
Danny AKA Triker Red, that's what these things were built for. We tested quite a few blanks and other "interesting" rounds. Wait to you see Jeff's next video!
Officer Gregg
An extra short shell with chili powder and an overshot card works pretty good too. 🙄. 🇺🇸😎
haha, yeah I loaded a couple shells with chili powder, glitter, magnesium, etc.
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So, that explains the burn marks on the head. LOL 👍🏻🇺🇸😎
Ha! That is what you have to load in the boobytrap, glitter filled shotgun shells.
But what about a slug?
I'm sure it would be equally weak
I guess, and a dragonbreath round would probly not ignite
i'd go as far as saying that it would be even weaker, the case would blow and the slug would, at best, roll off the table.
i have seen stuff like this done with hand gun rounds and what happens is that the case goes flying and the bullet stays where it is.
You're probably right.
Makes sense that the case would go flying since its lighter than the bullet.
Path of least resistance and all that.
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Would the shell hold together better if the Shell was wrapped with electrical or duct tape? I think that it would keep the cartridge from splitting.
Cool video. But if this was to really duplicate a misfire or hang fire of an ejected shell, shouldn't the shell NOT be constrained? Constraining the shell as shown in the video forces the shot and wad forward and only allowed to go side/side or up. Id like to see what really happens to an unconstrained shell (mimicking an ejected shell).
Very interesting. I once had the spot weld on the mag tube of a Mossberg shotgun fail after a heavy session of skeet shooting. The result, Tha mag plug and barrel fell to the ground as I raised the shotgun to shoot a clay, there I saw red plastic rather then a barrel. From then I always wonder what the result would of been if I hadn't noticed the barrel missing and pulled the trigger.
A bad day... thats what I'd guess the result was....
Even if uninjured, a brown alert moment🤣🤣
A cartridge needs the build up of pressure in the chamber in order to detonate the powder. It just burns really slowly at ambient pressures and really has to be contained to ignite.
Demonetizing videos by Google would be the equivalent of KFC deciding to stop selling fried chicken. Pretty stupid.
Yes, it is hurts the advertisers, Google, and video creators.
More like stop paying their employers.
Not even close to lethal, doesn't even break lenses of glasses. Few scrapes and maybe burn. Not too effective, especially if it hit an arm or butt or leg. The only value I see in this is causing momentary disorientation
Use a high brass shell
I wouldn't recommend this - in otherwise do not try this at home!
But when I was teenager, I had some buddies, that had more guts than brains, but they would put bullets, as well as shotgun shells balanced in the crook of a tree, then from a distance of about 50 feet would take aim with a bb or pellet gun, shooting the primer location, depending upon the size of the ammunition & the skill of the shooter, it might take a couple tries, but generally resulted in an explosion & all the kids scattered before the adults showed up to wonder what the heck was going on...
I used to shoot the primers all the time with the BB. I did 30 06 9 mm 7 mm rifle bullets 30 30 . It would just make it pop sound it wouldn't even allowed as a firecracker. Or wasn't enough pressure if you put it in between a tree branch for the bullet to leave the casion. If you stuck it in the ground. Then the bullet would leave the casing and the casing would shred a little bit. Any bullet or shell has to have something around it for it to project has to have backup pressure. Once you do that. Then it's going to come out and it could come out from either end. I know how to make it leave both ends. I can make it come out at either end I want it to you top or the bottom or the sides. Once you learn how to do that you can make landmines. I will not give you the information how to do that. World's already bad enough.
Darin- USMC B- 85-93 , i am 47. When i was young i would set them on rocks and shoot them with my lever action 30-30 bb gun. And i will tell ya, it really honed my skills shooting wise. Damn ,the fun we had growing up.
People forget, but dad and grandpa used to buy dynamite and primer cord at the hatdware store. When i got responsible enough to hunt with a real rifle, i would take primer cord and wrap around a tree. Sit back about 300 yds and bang. Pretty cool watching a tree splinter up into a billion toothpicks. Then i had to cut the tree up and split it for firewood. Kifs these days dont know the fun we had.
Darin- USMC B- 85-93. so that was yer point? kids scattered? did they teach yer minimum writing skills in the Corps?!
Lol when I was a growing up this crazy neighborhood kid made one of these tripwire contraptions by cutting a shotgun shell or bullet sized hole in a rat trap and rigged a striker pin across the snap bar...
We did the same thing till a 38 we hit spun around a went right next to a freinds face . Well we stopped doing that.
Great easy signal device though
Random question. Did you give FithOps permission to use this video on their website?
Love it!! Love your videos... OG YOUR THE BEST!!
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keifer225948, thanks Keifer!
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thats a perimeter alarm. its not meant to hit anyone or keep burglars out! its meant to be around the home perimeter and will alert the owner by use of a trip wire gun shot.
I uesd a homemade version along time ago to guard my bedroom pot garden. Also don't let thay guy fool you, those pellets will easily penetrate skin if you're close
2:50 could you put a piece of tube on a round
Its a noisemaker for a perimeter alarm. It's not made for home defense, self defense, or anything else. It's just an alarm for outside in the woods.
Holy smokes HOW have I never seen this channel before? Subbed happily!
Lol, I don't know but welcome aboard!
i been here 10 years, where you been?!?!?!? LOL
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I died at the *_super faux motion_* part lmao
Why?
Pure Slow Motion Why?
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thanks for showing this who knows how many people trying to clear a misfire have gooten hur or blinded
Interesting experiment video. Thank you guys
In California, a booby trap designed to do harm can definitely get you arrested, and open you up for a lawsuit by whomever gets injured by it, burglar or not. You can however have "trip" systems designed to sound alarm, noise makers and such. A primer strike only would probably be okay, but if someone gets injured, you'd better have a good lawyer and bail bondsman just in case.
It is CA after all. They dont ever want the bad guys hurt, taxpayer though are expendable for some damn reason.
Actually, every state has laws regarding booby traps and spring loaded "trip" weapons designed to do harm, burglar or not. I just used California as a reference, but a simple Google search revealed that it's basically illegal everywhere.
These guys don't care, they took their testosterone pills and steroids this morning.
I actually agree with the law on this one. Its one thing to see a threat in real time and take action with a firearm but its another to have a round on a tripwire that could be forgotten about or kill an innocent person such as a kid meandering around, first responder or utility guy.
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What if the shell was not sitting on the wood but hanging off the edge? The energy seemed to go upward vs. Forward. Where can you get that devise? What is is called?
I'm pretty sure you could achieve the same affect by throwing gravel at a burglars face.
HexagramMan Wow there's clearly no way I could've commented before they said that.
Throwing gravel while shouting BANG at about 130db
Loved the video. Question: You said a couple times that this perimeter tripwire device "doesn't work", and yet it seemed to work fine. Pull wire, it goes "bang!", right? Does the maker advertise it as a device for inflicting death or injury on an intruder? That would certainly leave them open to a fat lawsuit. Maybe it's just supposed to make a loud noise.
Aw, this is where the barrel comes in. Pressure
Great video
So it's pretty much effective as throwing lead shot and -pocket- sand to your face. Bummer.
pocket sand!
Shesha!
Pocket Sand! Shesha! (Dale gribble voice)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who uses the ol PS. Laundry is a nightmare though
Greetings from the Indian Himalayas -appreciate the really informative channel! Was also wondering if you could show something on shooting fish (underwater) from above ;-) Keep up the good work guys!
o kap mein kap please tell me that this is a parody
I saw a good cheap setup using a standard wood mouse trap. Counter sink where the steel trap metal meets the wood and press in 12ga shotgun primers and attach fishing line through the catch. You can daisy chain them too. Screw it to any tree, top & bottom, etc. Once the trap springs it sets off the primers. They can then be replaced.
Hi...I'm 8. I'm goin to twy this test at hoame.
matrox if your only 8 years old i dont think this is a test for you to do by yourself.please have a parent do it for you if you want to see this in person.if your not 8 sorry i got your post wrong.
Haha
Do it
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matrox How did it go did you *twy* it at you're *hoame*
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This is one of those California ghost guns
lol yep!
Is it possible to put a uncharted primer in that device to to set your primer off.
So you could use that primer for Craft projects?
Or could you put a spent shell casing in that device and add a gunshot primer to your case so you could set timers off to be used for craft projects.
For other cool man projects to display around your home that you could use spent shell casings for in primers.
I don't know if you could answer these questions for me or not please let me know by leaving a comment.
On this comment that I just left you please.
Did the mountable device in this video reminded anyone of that scene from Saw where Jigsaw made a trap by mounting shotguns on the top a door frame?
I always think about the one with the pull string, but it goes off on release so they all relax, then bam, hole in ya chest lol
I love when you do these types of vids. You used to do them all the time! If you ever get a chance you should try making some paraboloids with water and getting some high speed cam footage.
Are you saying that the shotgun collar from Saw 3 wouldn't work?!
I'd love to see that test with a full length brass shotgun cartridge (2-1/2")
It would still rupture but be more concentrated out the front imo