If you want your cattle to be able to drink straight from the pond, you'll want restrict access. Greg Judy has a great rock skirt design with a hot wire that allows them to drink without pooping and peeing and tearing up your banks. Great video, this series is fascinating.
This video couldn't have come at a better time! I've just discovered I can't get mains to my property and so investigating a well vs. other options initially. Thanks for the info!
Gosh, i have a vintage 18 foot deep brick-lined well on my property that i pumped through the spring-summer- fall drought in Texas...that never ran out of water for my cattle. It was a God send.
Wow you guys are fast. Can't believe your starting already! I'm so excited for you. Can't wait to watch your progress. So glad your also telling us the cost.
So exciting! Yes, having family with heavy equipment definitely helps the budget, feels a bit like cheating. 🤣 That's the value of family! I would love to see an episode on all the details of how you planned your pond - the contours of the land, where it will be in relation to the property edges and future grazing paddocks, etc. Will you be putting in reinforced beach edges in some locations the way Greg Judy builds his ponds?
I'm wondering what you will use for drinking water. I wouldn't think pond or rain catchment would be drinkable without purification systems. Is that the plan?
First thing y'all do is start delving lol I've never tried freshwater fish in a taco always been a po-boy kinda guy. Hope y'all find that clay!! Thank you for letting us in on your adventures. Y'all are the best out there, lighthearted, inspiring and just plain likeable
I am completely enjoying your journey! I am so excited! I am right here following along with you all and praying for your success and strength through the challenges! I prayed a couple years ago for a Miniature Jersey Milk cow because you all! I met a lady at our Sukkot celebration who sent me a flyer for a local Miniature Jersey Milk cow farm!!!!!!! We are on an adventure too! I need to learn how to make hard cheese now.
don't underestimate shallow wells or spring fed. in northern Maine we can dig with a backhoe and hit some water and springs..... that would at least care for animals if not family too. our well here cost my dad $430 complete with plumbing to the house
Wow o started watching you guys about a month ago and really enjoy the videos!!! I didn’t know you were in PA! I live near Scranton PA. Have a 2 acre farm land and going to start a small farm with garden and chickens. Can’t wait
Definitely lucky to have access to the equipment. Dozers here are $600/day. You might look into putting in a pier once you know the pond will hold water. You could attach the water pump intake line to it, to carry it out into clear water, instead of having it sit on the bank. Set the float about 8' from the pier, and it can still float up and down with the pond water level.
@@Homesteadyshow You will need to come up with a way to protect the line and pump in winter. We are in Texas, with mild winters. And our water line to the pond was for the garden, so my father drained the pump each fall and re-primed in the spring. For watering animals in the winter, you may need an alternate water source. Or build a storage system that can be insulated or buried. You really don't want the cows having too much direct access to pond or they will really mess up the banks. Plus, up there, the edges will be very icy.
My dad is a well driller in upstate NY. Well costs have skyrocketed since the pandemic started. I promise it doesn’t pad the drillers pocket either. My dads costs go up every time he orders supplies, at huge increases. He doesn’t even know how people can afford to drill at this point but the calls are still coming in. While it’s not a hard and fast rule, in our area my dad always said if you have a view, you don’t have water. It’s a shot in the dark every time but he sees patterns having drilled in the area for the last 50 years (he started at 13 years old!). Yes you can witch a well. my grandma can actually do it- I’ve walked with her and a witching stick and no matter how hard you hold, that stick will twist, but it’s not guaranteed by any means. My dad says if you are guessing a spot anyways, why not, but dont bet the bank on it. He always tells people you pay for the hole and the waters free. It pains him to call people at night and tell them they have a dry hole. He hates ruining people dreams…and no water can definitely do that. I hope the pond works great to solve your water plan on the homestead! It’s always nice to have family with equipment.
The sound volume was hard for me to figure out on this video, parts were super loud and then others would be too quiet so I had to keep changing the volume. Can’t wait to see you create a lovely homestead for your family!
@@Homesteadyshow it was from my phones speaker, the music seemed really loud so I would turn it down, and then it would switch to you speaking and I couldn’t hear. Your more recent videos I don’t have that issue so it’s just a one off probably! Loving watching you build your new homestead!
I'm loving the content and transparency of the cost as I am also looking to start my own Homestead soon. It's great that you are able to have family with access to the heavy equipment but could you share the cost if someone would have to rent and/or hire an operator to do the dirt work? Thanks.
Yay, the adventure begins. So glad to be able to come along for the ride! Just like you, the very first thing my husband did when he bought our property, was to dig our 6 acre pond. His dream was to have a fish farm and for 20 years (until he got sick) he had a very successful business. Praying for clay!
My family is moving to our own homestead next month and a pond is one of the first things I want to add to it. We have 27 acres in total, and really hoping to have at least an acre pond. But wow... 6 acres would be amazing! Not sure the wife will agree to that cost though haha...
@@vandal5066 My husband always jokes, when people ask how he dug such a large pond, that he went through a lot of shovels.😉 It’s a lot of upkeep now that I don’t have my husband’s help caring for the pond, (nature works faster than me!) but it has aged beautifully.
Is that from all the well companies around that will do your area? We made a big mistake when we bought our property years ago not researching well prices ...we heard quotes of $30k and got scared.... Finally got one in(really nice one) for around $9k. TX , too! If we had only known earlier, we would've had water a LOT sooner, but we did things with a loan--something we didn't want to do.
@@iknowyouwanttofly start small, he'll need to prbly truck some water in anyway, over time, it'll hold enough water, thats why I say "if you'll have the time"
@@Homesteadyshow I've seen Geoff Lawton do it with ducks, but he had the luxury of other ponds to draw on while he was doing it. Where that's gonna be your main pond and with time issues, it might be tough to wait while they do their thing. Would be a cool video, tho^^
@@Homesteadyshow I thought about that after my comment. It’s been about 5 years. Complete system prices 2017 in AZ the low quote was $30 per foot but decided to haul water instead. In VT I had one drilled in 2010 for $20. But “average” on both were $10/ft more. Sometimes I forget how much prices have gone up in such a short time and wells have been failing all over the east coast in recent years so there is more demand. Scary to think that $70+ might be the rate now.
Did I Miss why you are moving from family property....???possibly to start your own family average !!! Otherwise very interested in watching all your indevers !!!
A lot of it depends on access- a heavy wrecker gets really expensive really fast so I'm sure they put that in the bid to self-insure. Plus diesel is creeping back up to $6.
As an excavating contractor we save plantings for when the bulldozer is gone. Nothing like trying to navigate heavy equipment around a bunch of saplings. That will 100% slow you down and risk killing new trees.
And what are you going to drink? Ponds are disgusting filthy water sources without a fresh water source like a spring and a serious hazard to small kids. How will you circulate it? I am on a hilltop in NE PA. Our well is 250'. Its all shale and rocks. We had to build topsoil to grow food and it took years. Best of luck but I still say its a terrible choice and is going to cost more in money and time than anticipated to get up and running.
Its a bummer, but its their choice. Hoping I was wrong as well. Funny how theyre still going to need to do a lot of dirt work, hopefully theres clay around. In 10 years theyll have a well.
There are many, many ways to clean up a pond. My personal favorite is to use bi-valves because they're natural, very effective, very efficient and I think they're delicious.
We said early on in our project series we will be drinking rainwater catchment in the early days, but it’s pretty common practice for a farm to instal a farm pond for farm water needs, including watering livestock.
We would love a well, but the cost of building a homestead from scratch means some more modern conveniences will be bumped to the future, surely in 10 years we should be able to swing a well.
If you want your cattle to be able to drink straight from the pond, you'll want restrict access. Greg Judy has a great rock skirt design with a hot wire that allows them to drink without pooping and peeing and tearing up your banks. Great video, this series is fascinating.
This video couldn't have come at a better time! I've just discovered I can't get mains to my property and so investigating a well vs. other options initially. Thanks for the info!
Gosh, i have a vintage 18 foot deep brick-lined well on my property that i pumped through the spring-summer- fall drought in Texas...that never ran out of water for my cattle. It was a God send.
Wow you guys are fast. Can't believe your starting already! I'm so excited for you. Can't wait to watch your progress. So glad your also telling us the cost.
Starting with a BIG PROJECT. You guys don't mess around. Cool.
I am absolutely loving this series, thank you for sharing this with us. Greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦
Today in the MO Ozarks a 400' well with the pump and pressure tank is about $5,000. The static water level on my mountain is about 200'.
So exciting! Yes, having family with heavy equipment definitely helps the budget, feels a bit like cheating. 🤣 That's the value of family!
I would love to see an episode on all the details of how you planned your pond - the contours of the land, where it will be in relation to the property edges and future grazing paddocks, etc. Will you be putting in reinforced beach edges in some locations the way Greg Judy builds his ponds?
It is 100% an unfair advantage. Homesteading is hard, use every unfair advantage you can! 💪
Well depths are usually registered with the county. We check to see the depths of neighbor's wells for a rough estimate.
Yes, we did that as well.
I'm wondering what you will use for drinking water. I wouldn't think pond or rain catchment would be drinkable without purification systems. Is that the plan?
Just the beginning!
First thing y'all do is start delving lol I've never tried freshwater fish in a taco always been a po-boy kinda guy. Hope y'all find that clay!! Thank you for letting us in on your adventures. Y'all are the best out there, lighthearted, inspiring and just plain likeable
Love po-boys.
I am completely enjoying your journey! I am so excited! I am right here following along with you all and praying for your success and strength through the challenges! I prayed a couple years ago for a Miniature Jersey Milk cow because you all! I met a lady at our Sukkot celebration who sent me a flyer for a local Miniature Jersey Milk cow farm!!!!!!! We are on an adventure too! I need to learn how to make hard cheese now.
that was the fastest real estate purchase
😂 everything is fast forwarded with the edit of YT 👍
Fish Tacos!!! The whole homestead is gonna work out perfect for you guys. Praying for clay and all your adventures 🙏 ❤️
I’m thoroughly enjoying this series. You folks can’t release episodes fast enough.
Man nothing like living by a highway. Listening to that sound gets old.
great job. good luck moving forward. prayers...
don't underestimate shallow wells or spring fed. in northern Maine we can dig with a backhoe and hit some water and springs..... that would at least care for animals if not family too. our well here cost my dad $430 complete with plumbing to the house
Thanks fir sharing
Interesting
Wow o started watching you guys about a month ago and really enjoy the videos!!! I didn’t know you were in PA! I live near Scranton PA. Have a 2 acre farm land and going to start a small farm with garden and chickens. Can’t wait
I guess the universe is telling you to get out of the suburb(an)s 😂
Praying for clay! I have no doubt you’ll rock the gradall!
Definitely lucky to have access to the equipment. Dozers here are $600/day. You might look into putting in a pier once you know the pond will hold water. You could attach the water pump intake line to it, to carry it out into clear water, instead of having it sit on the bank. Set the float about 8' from the pier, and it can still float up and down with the pond water level.
Oh great idea!
@@Homesteadyshow You will need to come up with a way to protect the line and pump in winter. We are in Texas, with mild winters. And our water line to the pond was for the garden, so my father drained the pump each fall and re-primed in the spring. For watering animals in the winter, you may need an alternate water source. Or build a storage system that can be insulated or buried. You really don't want the cows having too much direct access to pond or they will really mess up the banks. Plus, up there, the edges will be very icy.
PRAY FOR CLAY!! ❤️🙏❤️
My dad is a well driller in upstate NY. Well costs have skyrocketed since the pandemic started. I promise it doesn’t pad the drillers pocket either. My dads costs go up every time he orders supplies, at huge increases. He doesn’t even know how people can afford to drill at this point but the calls are still coming in. While it’s not a hard and fast rule, in our area my dad always said if you have a view, you don’t have water. It’s a shot in the dark every time but he sees patterns having drilled in the area for the last 50 years (he started at 13 years old!). Yes you can witch a well. my grandma can actually do it- I’ve walked with her and a witching stick and no matter how hard you hold, that stick will twist, but it’s not guaranteed by any means. My dad says if you are guessing a spot anyways, why not, but dont bet the bank on it. He always tells people you pay for the hole and the waters free. It pains him to call people at night and tell them they have a dry hole. He hates ruining people dreams…and no water can definitely do that. I hope the pond works great to solve your water plan on the homestead! It’s always nice to have family with equipment.
THIS 👆 thanks for sharing Amanda, this is SOOOO why we are waiting on a well!
I feel you dude. I was estimated that here in southern az there averaging 700 feet and start at 15k to start......plus well pump and everything else.
Keep up the good work!!! if you get past this first part you can have fish tacos.🌮🌮🌮
I see you met my travelling companion "murphy". Been haunting me for years lol. Just gotta keep truckin forward
Wells around here run 40,000. For a 600-700 foot into alluvium.
The sound volume was hard for me to figure out on this video, parts were super loud and then others would be too quiet so I had to keep changing the volume. Can’t wait to see you create a lovely homestead for your family!
Sorry Karen, headphones or speaker? Was it when I was in a machine that it was quiet? That’s a different microphone.
@@Homesteadyshow it was from my phones speaker, the music seemed really loud so I would turn it down, and then it would switch to you speaking and I couldn’t hear. Your more recent videos I don’t have that issue so it’s just a one off probably! Loving watching you build your new homestead!
I'm loving the content and transparency of the cost as I am also looking to start my own Homestead soon. It's great that you are able to have family with access to the heavy equipment but could you share the cost if someone would have to rent and/or hire an operator to do the dirt work? Thanks.
Yes! We will definitely do that. And every property will be different depending on clay content in the soil as well.
Oh that’s a good estimate. We get 25k to 30k for a well estimate.
Man you guys are fast lol. It took us months just to finish the process of buying land from our neighbor!
The property buying process has taken awhile. We’ve just finally caught up on video.
Yay, the adventure begins. So glad to be able to come along for the ride! Just like you, the very first thing my husband did when he bought our property, was to dig our 6 acre pond. His dream was to have a fish farm and for 20 years (until he got sick) he had a very successful business. Praying for clay!
My family is moving to our own homestead next month and a pond is one of the first things I want to add to it. We have 27 acres in total, and really hoping to have at least an acre pond. But wow... 6 acres would be amazing! Not sure the wife will agree to that cost though haha...
@@vandal5066 My husband always jokes, when people ask how he dug such a large pond, that he went through a lot of shovels.😉 It’s a lot of upkeep now that I don’t have my husband’s help caring for the pond, (nature works faster than me!) but it has aged beautifully.
Wow! 6!acres,.. that is a lot of shovels!
@@Homesteadyshow Here’s a short clip of our pond if you would like to see it. ua-cam.com/video/NK8iwimaTKY/v-deo.html
Question, how come you didn't just expand that pond that's already there. Location? Nancy from nebraska
I need ponds for my animals
I havnt read the comments so if I'm repeating sorry. Going down hill PUT THE CAR IN NEUTRAL and take advantage of going downhill
Did you stay in PA? Buy in CT?
Your problem is that bow tie on the front 🤣🤣🤣 🤪
Haha day one problems 😅 story of my life.
Is that from all the well companies around that will do your area? We made a big mistake when we bought our property years ago not researching well prices ...we heard quotes of $30k and got scared.... Finally got one in(really nice one) for around $9k. TX , too! If we had only known earlier, we would've had water a LOT sooner, but we did things with a loan--something we didn't want to do.
Good to know!
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some folks use ducks to seal a pond
idk if you'll have the time for them to do it, but if you get no clay you could have ducks or pigs gley the pond bottom shut for you.
Yes but how will he get the water for them
@@iknowyouwanttofly start small, he'll need to prbly truck some water in anyway, over time, it'll hold enough water, thats why I say "if you'll have the time"
Goofy roofy, I’ve so wanted to test those theory’s, I do plan on using them if we have trouble with leakage.
@@Homesteadyshow I've seen Geoff Lawton do it with ducks, but he had the luxury of other ponds to draw on while he was doing it. Where that's gonna be your main pond and with time issues, it might be tough to wait while they do their thing. Would be a cool video, tho^^
Dont count on pigs 🤣 they'll mark the spot not you 😄🥰
I'm on the side of a very rocky mountain....water at 217 feet....I think you'd find water....
I do too, but at 17,000 for a 250 ft well I’m ok with rainwater 😁
@@Homesteadyshow that's crazy...
I had mine drilled 18 years ago....I think it was around 7,000...
I hope you dig 2 or 3 times the water you'll need for future droughts...
$71/foot is definitely the most I’ve ever seen. I would get some other estimates if you decide to go that route
Good to know, curious where are you located and how recent is this price? Would love to get an idea of fair market value
@@Homesteadyshow I thought about that after my comment. It’s been about 5 years. Complete system prices 2017 in AZ the low quote was $30 per foot but decided to haul water instead. In VT I had one drilled in 2010 for $20. But “average” on both were $10/ft more. Sometimes I forget how much prices have gone up in such a short time and wells have been failing all over the east coast in recent years so there is more demand. Scary to think that $70+ might be the rate now.
🍁💕🕊️🎃🍁
What would scare me is 2 or 3 years of drought.
Wells can go dry in a long drought as well....😕
Sherm, droughts are scary! Fortunately there is 100 years of data on PA rainfall, so we are designing our catchment for bad years.
Crawdad Creek
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Just say n
If you don't have Rain like some places this year,what will you do for Water in your Home?
🙏S for Clay🙏.
Holy Poo 😨.
God Speed 💝.
JO JO IN VT 😆💕🍁💨
Did I Miss why you are moving from family property....???possibly to start your own family average !!! Otherwise very interested in watching all your indevers !!!
Two years ago I put in a 795 ft well and it wasn't much more than $17k. You need to shop around.
A lot of it depends on access- a heavy wrecker gets really expensive really fast so I'm sure they put that in the bid to self-insure. Plus diesel is creeping back up to $6.
Wow great price, where are you guys (state)?
Check out you tuber Bamabass. He built a 5 acre fishing pond. You might pick up some ideas for your pond.
Watched em all! So nice!
You'll still need a source of drinking water, right? Ponds might be ok for livestock and gardens, but you'll want something better for yourselves.
I think you will spend more than a thousand dollars just for fuel!
And I "don't want to see this" because...???
imagine digging a pond before planting a fruit tree
As an excavating contractor we save plantings for when the bulldozer is gone. Nothing like trying to navigate heavy equipment around a bunch of saplings. That will 100% slow you down and risk killing new trees.
Not to mention you need water to water your fruit trees.
@@Homesteadyshow observe and interact
And what are you going to drink? Ponds are disgusting filthy water sources without a fresh water source like a spring and a serious hazard to small kids. How will you circulate it? I am on a hilltop in NE PA. Our well is 250'. Its all shale and rocks. We had to build topsoil to grow food and it took years. Best of luck but I still say its a terrible choice and is going to cost more in money and time than anticipated to get up and running.
Its a bummer, but its their choice. Hoping I was wrong as well. Funny how theyre still going to need to do a lot of dirt work, hopefully theres clay around. In 10 years theyll have a well.
There are many, many ways to clean up a pond. My personal favorite is to use bi-valves because they're natural, very effective, very efficient and I think they're delicious.
They can use water filters to make it drinkable for humans.
We said early on in our project series we will be drinking rainwater catchment in the early days, but it’s pretty common practice for a farm to instal a farm pond for farm water needs, including watering livestock.
We would love a well, but the cost of building a homestead from scratch means some more modern conveniences will be bumped to the future, surely in 10 years we should be able to swing a well.
did you check you gas gage? lol You said you were downhill so I'd thought I'd ask.
Turns out the battery was bad!