There's a lot of cold mothafuckin' quotes in this book: "I bridge the gap between people who make the breakthroughs, and people who take credit for them." "Technology implies billigerence."
No, it’s biologically bred into us because it promotes the species. If we didn’t have biological rewards to tolerate our offspring, they die. Those that are rewarded by empathy and love of offspring have more offspring surviving. It’s selective breeding.
I am almost finished and I gotta say, fantastic work reading it, the voice of Siri Keaton will forever be your voice now for me lol 😂 but seriously this was really well read, you nailed the tone and inflections of each character without trying to do impressions and that’s the best way to do it. I really appreciate you making these available for free on UA-cam. It has provided me so much entertainment while watching the security cameras at work and it will be probably the only audio book I’ve ever finished
i just finished the fungus really good audio book here on yt if you liked the last of us game or show and u like sci-fi not so much horror more body horror but a good read def check it out
Thank you for your time and effort making this I thoroughly enjoyed the story and your narration. The odd little gaff here and there just made me smile. Perfect with all its imperfections.
I totally agree, the mark of a good public reader is the ability to roll with the punches. We all make mistakes after all, so it makes it more relatable.
@@mspaint93 really? This guy is absolutely trash. Really unappealing voice, horrible pacing and indigestible. Not just anyone can do an audiobook. This guy needs to practice, a lot.
I am a former recording technician of books for the blind. First this was a fantastic story so realistic the I could feel a kind of "energy" associated with this reality ( something like Kinesthetic thinking) and very few novels do this. The reading job was very good as well. What I couldn't understand is why the mistakes weren't edited out, I used to do this all the time ( pause and rerecord) years ago at our little non-profit. It makes the reader look bad through no fault of his or her own- all readers make mistakes. But it was a great listen!
@@retroactive1 That is true. Its possible it couldve been avoided though by stopping the recording and beginning again, so every sound file ends with a mistake which can then be easily edited out when you put them together? I'm not someone skilled in that kind of tech tho so I dunno. It is a good reading, though!
The occasional flubs add to the enjoyment of the experience. As someone else wrote, it reminds us that we're listening to a human being. This is a fantastic listening experience. Maybe not to everyone's liking, but I am enjoying the Dickens out of it. Thank you!
Wow, that was impressive. Normally I get a bit disappointed when I hear about something like this and it's actually not great. This kind of sci fi often forgets its sci fi and wastes way to much time on politics, religion and infighting. Not that these things are bad, but they do seem overused. There is so much more that can be done with this genre, and this book does it all. It's also a great reading, considering it's like 9 hours long. Reading out loud is harder than people think. Nice job 👏 👍
Thank you so much! I'm only an hour into this so far but very much enjoy both the story and the narration. The occasional little mistakes make me laugh (in a good way) and somehow actually contribute toward the listening experience rather than detracting from it.
Hey great job thanks for making this for all of us literary fans who are sometimes too busy to have quiet time to sit and read. I listened to this while i cleaned the house and took care of my kids on my day off while spongebob played on the tv to keep them happy. Had an earbud in, again nice work thank you👍😀
Excellent narration. I really don't mind that you don't edit out the few errors. Especially if you are doing this gratis. Like a good newscaster that flubbs a word now and then, just keep going. We'll figure out what you meant. Your enunciation and tone and cadence are excellent. As a listener I much prefer that you produce more excellent content with a few errors, than waste time editing. If you go professional and have an income from your voice, you'll have someone to do the editing for you. For now, please keep it coming. 🙏
Great job with the narration, you have a good voice for this kind of thing. Reminds me of the Arthur C.Clarke audio books I used to listen to. Would be even better with an edit. Nice work
Just finished reading the book, but had a hard time parsing through a lot of it. By the end I had decided I should probably reread-- this was a great alternative!
35:00 holy shit that is a cold ass line and scene, preceded by one as well, "I'd have given them a fucking lifetime" but damn. He basically inhales a love-drug to artificially remain in love with his wife, which has some wild ass implications, especially considering shes fucking dead, and then Siri with the usual banger of a throwaway line: "She'd be happy for you, it would let her *pretend* the books were balanced".
Damn. Death by out of control bone growth that is increased by movement and of course the body will spasm from pain. I think WH40K has a similar weapon that works at a faster rate along with a similar muscle growth weapon. What's worse though? Becoming a bone statue that has protrusions everywhere or becoming a mound of muscle that can crush every part of your body with enough growth and the simplest of movement.
For the longest time I’ve had the “scene” around 1:30:00 where Siri and Charlotte go on a date stuck in my head and I didn’t know what book that it came from
Very well done. I just started reading the book (in german). I prefer audiobooks, though, because medical issues with my eyes make it strenuous to read for long times, but there is no german audiobook for this one and although my english is pretty good, most english audiobooks seem to be spoken with strong accent and poor accentuation, which makes it hard to listen to them for me as a non-native english speaker, so I mostly avoid them. But after listening to a few minutes of your audio I can say that it is really great to understand and well accentuated, so that even I can listen to it without any problems.
@@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis disagree about what? My eye problems? I doubt that you can judge about that. How tiring it is for me to listen to most english audiobooks? Again, that is my subjective perspective which you can't estimate. The quality of speech in this video? Well, that is YOUR subjective perspective which I don't want to assess, for me it is pretty good.
@@Nachtschicht1 What a thoroughly typical German reply, lol. What a stuck up German. This is a bad narratio by audiobook standards. You've got ear problems, too.
@@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis I'd say, you've got attitude problems. You're most likely american, are you? At least it reads like typical american arrogance.
only a ¼ way thru it but I am ALL IN this is one of the best sci fi stories i have ever [read] (audiobook and physical book *together* at the same time is easier on the ol' ADHD. ) Hey, It is what it is, Especially during these trying times. Thank you for getting this uploaded , Edits are just a formality in my opinion. Leaving in hiccups and stuff kinda adds to it Great work. The ten hours spent reading this into protools or whatever was definitely time well-spent.
This is great, thank you. My only constructive criticism would be I'd love the timeline to be split by chapter. That way I can listen for a chapter and have a better marker of where I left off etc, understand where abouts I am in the book. Thank you.
It's a fascinating story, and uses the fascinating concept of blindsight as a core element. I wonder if Peter Watts really feels that conscious awareness absolutely requires an "I" - or that it must be justified by how well it compares with machine-like automation. Now that would be a very unfortunate world view.
This book is amazing and has a few quotes one seems odd. "If you can see it, chances are it doesn't exist." by Kate Keogh, The Case for Suicide. Is it a real book or work or is it only meant as a support for the narrative? Google didn't turn everything up.
@@NihilNovi theres been a push on short stories about the thing and they even found a longer version of the story its based on 'Who goes there' its different but its good, i also enjoyed the short stories they were very varied
great job and great story.. i didn't catch it! were the vampires setting themselves up for a takeover.. or did all the humans uploaded themselves and the vamps took over? or did they finally make a artificial conscience that took over?
There is a sequel book Echopraxia that talks about what happens on Earth after Theseaus leaves. It's complicated but less of vampire vs human and more of non-sentiance sorting itself out, whether it be Vampires who break free (Not a spoiler, literally the first part of the book) or the kind of super-conciousnesses that machines developed, and ... A third thing that I won't spoil. But it both goes further into non-concious intelligence but also maybe delves into awareness beyond just self awareness. I go back and forth on which book I like better.
Interesting. I just finished reading and listening to this book on Audible and Kindle. This isn't the actual narrator who is T. Ryder Smith. He was very good. Well, I supported the author so I'm good.
Zachary Reed (SpaceChief) You the Man! I am your follower forever. This is a Long Story & you are a magnificent reader. "What else can I say? Thank you!
Wonkmonk would it be possible to pay for a download copy of this full blindsight reading? I know I could join you tube to download but I would rather not do that. Hope you catch this message.
I'm on my second listen now, thank you for this, incredible novel and honestly the hiccups here and there make it feel more human lol. Would you ever consider a read of Echopraxia?
I listened to a read out loud of it on a UA-cam channel and I think I like it more than Blindsight. The themes are very interesting and once again it got me to go dig up actual science research "No way, that can't be real... Holy shit it is"
@@chickenwings273because Blindsight is like eating a steak at a restaurant. You sit, it's cooked, served, and dishes are taken away. Echopraxia, instead, supplies the ingredients, recipe card and utensils, tells you to make your own god damn steak, and fucks off. I love it. Sure, it's a lot more difficult of a read, but you need to be in a mindset to cook and chew your own meal in order to enjoy it. Take your time.
I cannot believe this has not been made into a movie yet. Critique: The value of sentience is unquestionable. It is what has allowed the human specie to become the dominant life form by a large amount over all other creatures. It allows us to better predict the future. To predict how our actions or the actions of others will affect the future. It allows us to predict how natural events and mechanisms will affect the future. We know that planting seed will result in plants we want. We know that planting in the spring will give the plants time to grow to harvestable size, and so on and so on. I find it ridiculous to say that something without sentience or at least something that mimics the capabilities of sentience could be superior in any way.
What the book proposes is "is sentience really necessary to accomplish all of this?" and shows how it might just not be. We're predisposed to think sentience and self awareness is a good thing because it's what we are, but what if it really is just training wheels? Would it really have any place in a future and place as hostile as this novel's universe? What if being consumed by it to the degree we are is just undeniably worse than for it to be partially concious, like vampires in this book are? It's a very interesting concept regardless.
@@cia4u401 I question whether any creatures without sentience could evolve so highly and become a technological species. I am also of the belief that we will not find wild types of life forms in the galaxy other than carbon-based with them having experienced a very similar evolutionary path. More silicon than carbon on earth but carbon was used for a very simple reason. Silicon does not make the same strong bonds that carbon does.
@@The1stDukeDroklar @The1stDukeDroklar That's what fiction's for though, isn't it? What ifs. Hell, perhaps the scramblers did have sentience early on but evolved out of it as their need for it lessened and lessened, after all, in a setting like this, why keep it after it's overlived it's usefulness? Personally I doubt we'll even find any other technologically advanced species period. Not because it's not possible, but because of how impossibly improbable it is. It's not just intelligence you need; you need to be able to manipulate your enviroment in the first place; you need to be able to strive; you need to be able to have a viable fuel source for any machines you'd make. You need to be able to socialize with others and share ideas... But still. There's nothing really saying that you need sentience to archieve these things, is there? If you get past that first hurdle, then, wouldn't what are basically organic robots be able to be competitively better than humans are?
Listened till 5:22: 00, then went to Goodreads to see reviews. Since most refer to it in the horror category of sci fi I decided to stop, since things like Alien creep the heck out of me. But I was fairly interested and thought I was sort of keeping up with the scene changes and characters. The reading was pleasant. Thanks.
Give a "hell yeah" if Quinn's Ideas brought you here!
Hell Yeah
No but it's a great channel. Quinn's Ideas. The definitive Dune guide.
He brought me to the Three Body Problem which brought me here lol.
Should I read Dune next?
Hell yeah
Just wanted to say that I love you saying "Ah, rerecord that" then just keep on trucking.
😆
“This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: You hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the speech from the screams.”
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There's a lot of cold mothafuckin' quotes in this book:
"I bridge the gap between people who make the breakthroughs, and people who take credit for them."
"Technology implies billigerence."
@@stevenhetzel6483I remember very well that book has bought me by first world “If we’re not in pain, we are not alive”
(Chapter) "Mothers are fonder than fathers of their children because they are more certain they are their own" 3:30:55
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No, it’s biologically bred into us because it promotes the species. If we didn’t have biological rewards to tolerate our offspring, they die. Those that are rewarded by empathy and love of offspring have more offspring surviving. It’s selective breeding.
@@timyo6288 straight
I am almost finished and I gotta say, fantastic work reading it, the voice of Siri Keaton will forever be your voice now for me lol 😂 but seriously this was really well read, you nailed the tone and inflections of each character without trying to do impressions and that’s the best way to do it. I really appreciate you making these available for free on UA-cam. It has provided me so much entertainment while watching the security cameras at work and it will be probably the only audio book I’ve ever finished
i just finished the fungus really good audio book here on yt if you liked the last of us game or show and u like sci-fi not so much horror more body horror but a good read def check it out
@@Alex_0Z ahhh I know that book and also recommend
@@jackdare really good!!
Thank you for your time and effort making this I thoroughly enjoyed the story and your narration. The odd little gaff here and there just made me smile. Perfect with all its imperfections.
I totally agree, the mark of a good public reader is the ability to roll with the punches. We all make mistakes after all, so it makes it more relatable.
Reckon this fella did incredibly, exceptionally well for 10 hours. I cannot imagine speaking so well for that amount of time lol
@@mspaint93 It was definitely not a continuous reading. You can tell by the changes in volume between the different recording sessions.
@@mspaint93 really? This guy is absolutely trash. Really unappealing voice, horrible pacing and indigestible. Not just anyone can do an audiobook. This guy needs to practice, a lot.
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You’re a legend but wish you did intro and prologue
I am a former recording technician of books for the blind. First this was a fantastic story so realistic the I could feel a kind of "energy" associated with this reality ( something like Kinesthetic thinking) and very few novels do this. The reading job was very good as well. What I couldn't understand is why the mistakes weren't edited out, I used to do this all the time ( pause and rerecord) years ago at our little non-profit. It makes the reader look bad through no fault of his or her own- all readers make mistakes. But it was a great listen!
Check out Stephen Pacey on audible. His performances will blow your mind. His narration of the "First Law" series is spectacular.
9 hours is a lot to comb through so i don’t blame him.
@@retroactive1 That is true. Its possible it couldve been avoided though by stopping the recording and beginning again, so every sound file ends with a mistake which can then be easily edited out when you put them together?
I'm not someone skilled in that kind of tech tho so I dunno. It is a good reading, though!
You're too nice. This was a very bad listen.
I think it's purposefully unedited so that it'd be obvious that it's not intended for commercial use. Thus no ©️ infrin--ment 😊 and we still get to enjoy this masterpiece. Great job, wonkmonk❤
Have been looking forward to listening to this for a few weeks- just jumped on an 8 hour coach in Turkey- ready steady go!!!!
The occasional flubs add to the enjoyment of the experience. As someone else wrote, it reminds us that we're listening to a human being. This is a fantastic listening experience. Maybe not to everyone's liking, but I am enjoying the Dickens out of it. Thank you!
Wow, that was impressive. Normally I get a bit disappointed when I hear about something like this and it's actually not great. This kind of sci fi often forgets its sci fi and wastes way to much time on politics, religion and infighting. Not that these things are bad, but they do seem overused. There is so much more that can be done with this genre, and this book does it all. It's also a great reading, considering it's like 9 hours long. Reading out loud is harder than people think. Nice job 👏 👍
I think you did an Amazing job! Seriously enjoying this so far. Thank you so much!
7:11:08 "That which does not kill us, makes us stranger." -- Trevor Goodchild
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what a wonderfully obscure reference.
Trust the Joker is citing the same and did not original pronounce
Just finished listening. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for taking the time to record this.
I loved this! I've been rereading Blindsight and it's been nice to have it read to me when it's less convenient to read it myself.
Thank you so much! I'm only an hour into this so far but very much enjoy both the story and the narration. The occasional little mistakes make me laugh (in a good way) and somehow actually contribute toward the listening experience rather than detracting from it.
Hey great job thanks for making this for all of us literary fans who are sometimes too busy to have quiet time to sit and read. I listened to this while i cleaned the house and took care of my kids on my day off while spongebob played on the tv to keep them happy. Had an earbud in, again nice work thank you👍😀
Excellent narration. I really don't mind that you don't edit out the few errors. Especially if you are doing this gratis.
Like a good newscaster that flubbs a word now and then, just keep going. We'll figure out what you meant.
Your enunciation and tone and cadence are excellent.
As a listener I much prefer that you produce more excellent content with a few errors, than waste time editing.
If you go professional and have an income from your voice, you'll have someone to do the editing for you.
For now, please keep it coming. 🙏
Well done! That took a lot of work but was a blast to listen through.
this entire book was a fucking trip. thank u narrator. this was amazing.
This is Superb narration! Thanks man 😌!
Best name for an audiobook narrator
This is fantastic, the mistakes just add charm, especially given it's free.
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Well read, very fun and visceral to listen to.
Great job with the narration, you have a good voice for this kind of thing. Reminds me of the Arthur C.Clarke audio books I used to listen to. Would be even better with an edit. Nice work
Are your ears ok?
@@angelaramirez4144 right???? This narration is complete trash.
3:21:27
Loving it so far, great job on the reading!
Thank you for sharing this. I own the the physical copy but just have had difficulty getting into it. This happily resolves my issues.
Thank you.
Just finished this. Thanks a ton. Feel in loved your narration halfway though the book.
Just finished reading the book, but had a hard time parsing through a lot of it. By the end I had decided I should probably reread-- this was a great alternative!
"Hell Yeah!" Thanks, Quinn.
35:00 holy shit that is a cold ass line and scene, preceded by one as well, "I'd have given them a fucking lifetime" but damn.
He basically inhales a love-drug to artificially remain in love with his wife, which has some wild ass implications, especially considering shes fucking dead, and then Siri with the usual banger of a throwaway line: "She'd be happy for you, it would let her *pretend* the books were balanced".
6:58:18 viola, the coldest shit I've ever heard.
8:10:10 Juuka's monologue.
8:50:00 the reason they attacked.
Good job mate. I enjoyed it.
Emerson M. Pugh Chapter: 8:16:04
Damn. Death by out of control bone growth that is increased by movement and of course the body will spasm from pain. I think WH40K has a similar weapon that works at a faster rate along with a similar muscle growth weapon. What's worse though? Becoming a bone statue that has protrusions everywhere or becoming a mound of muscle that can crush every part of your body with enough growth and the simplest of movement.
Die jacked. Hell yea.
Thank you. I’ve been reading it but having issues so reading it with the narration is super helpful.
Thank you for the upload
For the longest time I’ve had the “scene” around 1:30:00 where Siri and Charlotte go on a date stuck in my head and I didn’t know what book that it came from
Very well done. I just started reading the book (in german). I prefer audiobooks, though, because medical issues with my eyes make it strenuous to read for long times, but there is no german audiobook for this one and although my english is pretty good, most english audiobooks seem to be spoken with strong accent and poor accentuation, which makes it hard to listen to them for me as a non-native english speaker, so I mostly avoid them.
But after listening to a few minutes of your audio I can say that it is really great to understand and well accentuated, so that even I can listen to it without any problems.
I could not disagree with you more.
@@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis disagree about what?
My eye problems? I doubt that you can judge about that.
How tiring it is for me to listen to most english audiobooks? Again, that is my subjective perspective which you can't estimate.
The quality of speech in this video? Well, that is YOUR subjective perspective which I don't want to assess, for me it is pretty good.
@@Nachtschicht1 What a thoroughly typical German reply, lol. What a stuck up German. This is a bad narratio by audiobook standards. You've got ear problems, too.
@@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis I'd say, you've got attitude problems. You're most likely american, are you?
At least it reads like typical american arrogance.
@@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis I don’t think this is a good reading but what is the point your bigoted and aggressive reply?
only a ¼ way thru it but I am ALL IN this is one of the best sci fi stories i have ever [read]
(audiobook and physical book *together* at the same time is easier on the ol' ADHD. )
Hey, It is what it is, Especially during these trying times.
Thank you for getting this uploaded , Edits are just a formality in my opinion. Leaving in hiccups and stuff kinda adds to it
Great work. The ten hours spent reading this into protools or whatever was definitely time well-spent.
Wonderful stuff, thank you for the audiobook (:
This is great, thank you. My only constructive criticism would be I'd love the timeline to be split by chapter. That way I can listen for a chapter and have a better marker of where I left off etc, understand where abouts I am in the book.
Thank you.
Hell Yeah! Thanx Quinn!
thank you very much for your work!
Beautiful, thank you
It's a fascinating story, and uses the fascinating concept of blindsight as a core element. I wonder if Peter Watts really feels that conscious awareness absolutely requires an "I" - or that it must be justified by how well it compares with machine-like automation. Now that would be a very unfortunate world view.
I wish I could give several thumbs up
3 and half hours in... WTF ... is going on???
Maybe I will change my mind.
I like your narration way better than the audible one! Great job!
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why can't they turn this into a movie already
Lot of the substance would be lost in movie form, we’d miss out on the thought processes unless we had a narrator
Did Peter watts read anyone else's mind when he said "imagine you're a machine. Yes, I know. I mean a different kind of machine.". You bastard 😅
Yup lol
Thanks a lot for the recording, is there some way we can support you?
2:06:45 Begin part 3
5:01:39 Quick as a blink
Calcium deficiency 7:52:24
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This book is amazing and has a few quotes one seems odd. "If you can see it, chances are it doesn't exist." by Kate Keogh, The Case for Suicide. Is it a real book or work or is it only meant as a support for the narrative?
Google didn't turn everything up.
Found a site called Rifters that appears to be made by the author.
Really good job with the reading, I wish that there was more editing happening though to smooth out some rough parts.
7:57:48 Aldous Huxley chapter
Really appreciate this bro
The author also wrote a short story that is John carpenter's "the thing", but from the alien's perspective. It's good. "The Things".
comment of the day. one of the best movies ever made, even better if there is a story from the things perspective :-)
@@NihilNovi theres been a push on short stories about the thing and they even found a longer version of the story its based on 'Who goes there' its different but its good, i also enjoyed the short stories they were very varied
Good reading thanks heaps
Thank you for the effort❤
Fantastic, thanks !
great job and great story.. i didn't catch it! were the vampires setting themselves up for a takeover.. or did all the humans uploaded themselves and the vamps took over? or did they finally make a artificial conscience that took over?
There is a sequel book Echopraxia that talks about what happens on Earth after Theseaus leaves. It's complicated but less of vampire vs human and more of non-sentiance sorting itself out, whether it be Vampires who break free (Not a spoiler, literally the first part of the book) or the kind of super-conciousnesses that machines developed, and ... A third thing that I won't spoil.
But it both goes further into non-concious intelligence but also maybe delves into awareness beyond just self awareness. I go back and forth on which book I like better.
Thank you ❤
Great job thank you so so so much ⚡💕
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3:30 Rorschach
This is wrong
Interesting. I just finished reading and listening to this book on Audible and Kindle. This isn't the actual narrator who is T. Ryder Smith. He was very good. Well, I supported the author so I'm good.
This was a phenomenal recording
For a phenomenal book
Thank you Jo Rogan
Brillianttttttttttt, thanks!!!!
Zachary Reed (SpaceChief) You the Man! I am your follower forever. This is a Long Story & you are a magnificent reader. "What else can I say? Thank you!
Wonkmonk would it be possible to pay for a download copy of this full blindsight reading? I know I could join you tube to download but I would rather not do that. Hope you catch this message.
Just starting it !!!
08:30:00
Thank you! This was great.
I'm on my second listen now, thank you for this, incredible novel and honestly the hiccups here and there make it feel more human lol. Would you ever consider a read of Echopraxia?
Couldn’t get into that one unfortunately. Tried twice too. Maybe I’ll give it another go.
@@ryang.5094 fair, I hadn't read it when I commented. I have now and I'm with you it's not quite as good as blindsight
@@kevinrudd1 agreed, i got 1/3rd of the way and the book is not as good as blindsight. was harder to understand the plot, much more jargon
I listened to a read out loud of it on a UA-cam channel and I think I like it more than Blindsight. The themes are very interesting and once again it got me to go dig up actual science research "No way, that can't be real... Holy shit it is"
@@chickenwings273because Blindsight is like eating a steak at a restaurant. You sit, it's cooked, served, and dishes are taken away.
Echopraxia, instead, supplies the ingredients, recipe card and utensils, tells you to make your own god damn steak, and fucks off. I love it.
Sure, it's a lot more difficult of a read, but you need to be in a mindset to cook and chew your own meal in order to enjoy it. Take your time.
I love it
Hell yeah! 😈
Shoutout to Orbital Mechanics.
It would've been perfect if you didn't tap/bump the mic every 15 seconds.
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Wow. This opens with a creepy af assertion.
I just finished it and… wow
I cannot believe this has not been made into a movie yet. Critique: The value of sentience is unquestionable. It is what has allowed the human specie to become the dominant life form by a large amount over all other creatures. It allows us to better predict the future. To predict how our actions or the actions of others will affect the future. It allows us to predict how natural events and mechanisms will affect the future. We know that planting seed will result in plants we want. We know that planting in the spring will give the plants time to grow to harvestable size, and so on and so on.
I find it ridiculous to say that something without sentience or at least something that mimics the capabilities of sentience could be superior in any way.
Don’t you think you’re a little biased as a person?
Being able to consider the meaning of life doesn’t help you outrun a lion
@@Macheath-n2b No, but being able to invent a rifle means you don't have to run from that lion.
What the book proposes is "is sentience really necessary to accomplish all of this?" and shows how it might just not be. We're predisposed to think sentience and self awareness is a good thing because it's what we are, but what if it really is just training wheels? Would it really have any place in a future and place as hostile as this novel's universe? What if being consumed by it to the degree we are is just undeniably worse than for it to be partially concious, like vampires in this book are?
It's a very interesting concept regardless.
@@cia4u401 I question whether any creatures without sentience could evolve so highly and become a technological species.
I am also of the belief that we will not find wild types of life forms in the galaxy other than carbon-based with them having experienced a very similar evolutionary path.
More silicon than carbon on earth but carbon was used for a very simple reason. Silicon does not make the same strong bonds that carbon does.
@@The1stDukeDroklar @The1stDukeDroklar That's what fiction's for though, isn't it? What ifs. Hell, perhaps the scramblers did have sentience early on but evolved out of it as their need for it lessened and lessened, after all, in a setting like this, why keep it after it's overlived it's usefulness?
Personally I doubt we'll even find any other technologically advanced species period. Not because it's not possible, but because of how impossibly improbable it is. It's not just intelligence you need; you need to be able to manipulate your enviroment in the first place; you need to be able to strive; you need to be able to have a viable fuel source for any machines you'd make. You need to be able to socialize with others and share ideas... But still. There's nothing really saying that you need sentience to archieve these things, is there? If you get past that first hurdle, then, wouldn't what are basically organic robots be able to be competitively better than humans are?
1:26:25 this interaction narrated by Siri is hilarious
Listened till 5:22: 00, then went to Goodreads to see reviews. Since most refer to it in the horror category of sci fi I decided to stop, since things like Alien creep the heck out of me. But I was fairly interested and thought I was sort of keeping up with the scene changes and characters. The reading was pleasant. Thanks.
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I heard a guy on Joe Rogan talking about this… I’m pretty sure they were both tripping in DMT.
Why do you listen to fascist podcasts
@@Macheath-n2b I didn't realizes it was fascist, what makes it so?
Hell yeah!
Found this thru JRE
50:30 *spoiler?*
so he's actually talking to Rorschach?
Im surprised it’s allowed to be here on youtube that with copyright and stuff
1:40 just leaving where I'm at
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Zachary Reed needs some credit as I listened to the official audiobook and he's done a much better job.
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How am I supposed to listen to this the app closes itself after 2 mins
If you are not in pain, you are not alive
That’s ridiculous. I want to avoid all pain and strife. Jordan Peterson masochistic bullshit
Henry David Thoreau Chapter 8:33:49
I feel like this could be 5 or 6 different novels. It has so many different story lines.