I tried a triple crank on a road bike once (when I was new to the sport), I was slower up every hill. The 30T granny did nothing for me. Went back to 53/39 and never looked back.
@@spacekaiser3063your muscles can output a limited amount of power in time, before they need to rest. And pedalling movement is assembled from pushing and pulling motion. So sometimes there is a sweet spot, if you pedal fast enough, your "push" muscles can rest faster when the "pull" muscles are working. Of course the rest time is also shortened. But there are very cool graphs and explanations for this online. I would recommend googling it. There is a lot of truth in this, that's why there are "cadence" ranges. E.g. it applies for running as well. Cadence of 165-175 is most recommended for flat surface with long-run in mind.😊
I am 36 and on roads for 30 years now. My méthode? Biggest gear you can go with a 80 rpm and keep the pace with it as ling as possible. Explode. Do it again and again and again. Day by day you will last longer with a bigger gear. The only goal is to stay with 80 rpm (at least I am comfy with 80 but maybe for you 90 or 100 are better rpm are bound to your sensations on bike.) That being Said yes for the belly concil and for the legs too. But moderate yourselves gentlemen. Never forget that a race is won on the finish line, not after the first climb of the day. Love and good ride to you all. Cheers from France.
@@villagofreetube this was what I said to me 80 is perfect and it is perfect since I was 16. But if you are more agile than working with power yep 90 or 100 with a more versatile gear is totaly fine. For the knees protection no secret try to avoid pure strengh work, optimise your staff especially your shoes and clips setup and your position on the bike.
Donc tu es de france ? Je débuter le cyclisme seul et je roule seul depuis environ 1 an et demi mais je me pose toujours la question de comment pédaler justement correctement ? Quand je faisais du vélo vtt rando avec de simple pédale la question ne se posait pas mais avec des pédale auto je me la suis demandé, Pour progresser, faut-il lever les jambes pour emmener plus facilement le vélo ? Si oui à quelle fréquence ? Si c'est sur une partie du parcours ou faut il réussir à trouver le rythme pour le faire sur tout le parcours ? Car aujourd'hui je ne pousse que sur les pédales, j'essaie sur quelques distance de lever les jambes mais je trouve que garder le rythme comme ça est pas évident
@@theomaximilien2 Oui je suis Français. Alors la fréquence ça dépend de toi vraiment, perso je suis à 80 parce que je suis un gars plutôt puissant et pas agile donc tourner les jambes vite ça ne me va pas du tout. Et oui on pousse et on tire en même temps avec les pédales auto, on verrouille la cheville au moment de pousser on détend le mollet au moment de la remontée pour ne tirer que sur la cuisse. Pour ta fréquence pas compliqué mais très difficile physiquement à trouver, primo il faut trouver ta fréquence de base donc celle ou t'es à l'aise, pour cela il faut rouler longtemps, régulièrement et tourner les jambes pile comme il faut pour que tu avances vite sans trop t'user. Et après tu augmentes les développement en t'assurant de tenir ton rythme de pédalage et tu fais durer le plus longtemps possible, encore et encore jusqu'à t'y habituer. Un peu comme un San Goku avec l'entrainement avec de la gravité.
@@ankousama5840 faudrait que je m'achète un capteur de puissance, j'arrive pas vraiment à avoir un bon rythme, à chaque fois c'est plus fort que moi je me donne à 70/80% et je fatigue très vite au bout de 60 à 80km selon le dénivelé.. Mais bon c'est bon à savoir je vais essayer de m'y mettre sérieusement et de progresser en remontant les cuisses. Moi c'est le contraire, je prefere mettre un petit braquet et faire tourner les jambes ^^ Merci de la réponse, c'est dommage syr youtube y a personne qui en parle de comment pédaler correctement
Do not follow this video. It is wrong on so many levels and a way to overload or injure your hip flexors. Just pedal naturally. Yes I am a cycling coach with 17 years experience.
@@klorskarjar132 Riding on city roads where you share the space with cars flats are just safer. I barely see anyone in the city ride clipless. They don't ride in contested bumper to bumper traffic where I am. clipless can get you +50 watts in SOME scenarios, which is a lot to a racer, but to everyone else that's not important we really don't care, flats are very comfortable, and there's times in traffic where you need to move your leg in less than the half a second to full second it would take most to unclip. It's not that you're wrong, but it's a mind set that only applies to elites. most people don't need, or want, and are also not good enough to use clipless safely.
Just passed 2 on an incline doing this 29 minutes ago. They looked stronger than me. I've been focusing on form lately, and the second I correct myself, the pedaling gets easier.
@@fryderykfranciszekchopin6888 It's only worth to pull if you are doing neuromuscular efforts e.g., sprinting or 1m standing max effort. Unless you are attacking or sprinting for the win in a race, there is no point in straining your hip flexors and lower back to climb a short hill. If you want to get faster, you need to ride more controlled. No one cares if you got up the first hill on your club ride if you can't pull at the front, your back is hurting 50km later, or you pick up an overuse injury.
The technique on climbing a hill easily is to climb it repeatedly until you become stronger... No matter what strategy you use if your not well trained ur gonna stall at the muddle of that climb
According to my trainer it's important to both pull and push but pushing uses two of the bodys biggest muscles (glutes and quads) so it's a lot more powerful
I have experienced before thet pushing hurt my knees a lot, and now i take it as 1 min push 1 min pull. Now my knees doesn’t hurt anymore. It is better to Strengthen all leg muscles than focusing on pushing alone.
@@williamsundkvist69 Glutes and quads are activated in the pedal stroke without pulling up. As above, it is an old myth. We now know it doesn't work because of vector analysis tools in power meter pedals.
@@williamsundkvist69 Quads extend the knee joint. Glutes extend the hip joint. Both of these extensions happen when you push down. We now know that if you pull up you just work against the other legs trying to push down. Pulling up requires you to sync pulling up with one leg at the exact time you are pushing down with the other at 80 - 90+ times a minute. Just pedal naturally and use gravity to your advantage by pushing down.
Bad form. You want max air in the lungs when climbing so keep head up and chest forward. Hands further back to straighten the back. You will last 5 miles and call it a day going like that.
Vor einem Jahrzehnt noch in China auf Eseln unterwegs und uns nun erklären wollen, wie man bergauf Fahrrad fährt. Okay! Wenn es nur ansatzweise richtig wäre...😂
Science has proven for ages that actively pulling up is extremely inefficient. But our bro here seems to know better and needs to spread his "wisdom" in the Internet. Oh my...
Question: sometimes when I attack climbs with full power, I notice that I’m literally pulling my back wheel off the ground - what’s the cause and how can I fix that?
try higher cadence. try pull with the arm at the opposite site of the leg that is pushing down at full efforts. improve pedaling technique. The rounder your pedaling is, the less this will happen. It happens when you put all your weight to the front while pulling hard on one pedal. A seated max effort with very high cadence will most likely be more efficient then wasting power this way. If your rpm are too low when getting out of the saddle on a climb this will eventually happen.
@@C_Sour_48 :) You will get there...sometimes still happens to me when I am already exhausted and drop cadence or not shift down far enough down on a short a hill when sprinting it. Good to have a small steep hill to train this on your route!
If you are not already doing it, you need to hinge at the hips while out of the saddle rather than looking upright as if you are running. As the other guy mentions, this often happens if your cadence is too low, since it makes you lean forward into the pedal stroke. There is a host of other reasons why this might be happening to you, but this is a common reason :) Oh, yeah... I almost forgot (this also relates to sprinting)... you shouldn't just snap from 200w to 1000w. The difference in force is what snaps the rear wheel. If you drive it up a few pedalstrokes before to wind it up and then shift during the attack as well, it's more stable, sustainable and probably higher watts too since efficient cadence rises with higher watts (e.g., 90 cadence is inefficient in sprints but good for threshold)
I believe this instructional video is for the benefit of the deaf and mute.😂 C’mon , at least write some captions in English to get to the scientific principle of the technique. This ain’t no silent comic strip.
It's not. The only reason to have a flexed spine is if leaning further forward destabilizes your pelvis - and even then, you should just make your position less aggressive to maintain a flat back unless you are competing and have a flexible and strong spine that won't get injured, since this is extremely unhealthy for your discs.
It's like that for the first 30sec then the hill wins
30 sec? Show off
Probably why it says "short hill"
I was ganna say lol. After maybe half a mile and the grade is gradual then the hill wins.
The hill always wins.
-a tired dad
My favorite cycling tip I ever heard when I asked someone how I could get faster... They said have you tried pedaling faster 😅
Increasing your cadence can prevent burning out your legs, so yeah, that's actually true, though I doubt they meant it that way 😅
I tried a triple crank on a road bike once (when I was new to the sport), I was slower up every hill. The 30T granny did nothing for me. Went back to 53/39 and never looked back.
@@bertmortier7678what do you mean burning them up?
@@spacekaiser3063your muscles can output a limited amount of power in time, before they need to rest. And pedalling movement is assembled from pushing and pulling motion. So sometimes there is a sweet spot, if you pedal fast enough, your "push" muscles can rest faster when the "pull" muscles are working. Of course the rest time is also shortened. But there are very cool graphs and explanations for this online. I would recommend googling it.
There is a lot of truth in this, that's why there are "cadence" ranges. E.g. it applies for running as well. Cadence of 165-175 is most recommended for flat surface with long-run in mind.😊
I am 36 and on roads for 30 years now. My méthode? Biggest gear you can go with a 80 rpm and keep the pace with it as ling as possible. Explode. Do it again and again and again. Day by day you will last longer with a bigger gear. The only goal is to stay with 80 rpm (at least I am comfy with 80 but maybe for you 90 or 100 are better rpm are bound to your sensations on bike.)
That being Said yes for the belly concil and for the legs too. But moderate yourselves gentlemen. Never forget that a race is won on the finish line, not after the first climb of the day.
Love and good ride to you all.
Cheers from France.
I am 43 , if I climb on 80rpm with all my strength, I will damage my knees. Better over 90rpm (at least for my condition)
@@villagofreetube this was what I said to me 80 is perfect and it is perfect since I was 16. But if you are more agile than working with power yep 90 or 100 with a more versatile gear is totaly fine.
For the knees protection no secret try to avoid pure strengh work, optimise your staff especially your shoes and clips setup and your position on the bike.
Donc tu es de france ?
Je débuter le cyclisme seul et je roule seul depuis environ 1 an et demi mais je me pose toujours la question de comment pédaler justement correctement ?
Quand je faisais du vélo vtt rando avec de simple pédale la question ne se posait pas mais avec des pédale auto je me la suis demandé,
Pour progresser, faut-il lever les jambes pour emmener plus facilement le vélo ?
Si oui à quelle fréquence ? Si c'est sur une partie du parcours ou faut il réussir à trouver le rythme pour le faire sur tout le parcours ?
Car aujourd'hui je ne pousse que sur les pédales, j'essaie sur quelques distance de lever les jambes mais je trouve que garder le rythme comme ça est pas évident
@@theomaximilien2 Oui je suis Français. Alors la fréquence ça dépend de toi vraiment, perso je suis à 80 parce que je suis un gars plutôt puissant et pas agile donc tourner les jambes vite ça ne me va pas du tout.
Et oui on pousse et on tire en même temps avec les pédales auto, on verrouille la cheville au moment de pousser on détend le mollet au moment de la remontée pour ne tirer que sur la cuisse.
Pour ta fréquence pas compliqué mais très difficile physiquement à trouver, primo il faut trouver ta fréquence de base donc celle ou t'es à l'aise, pour cela il faut rouler longtemps, régulièrement et tourner les jambes pile comme il faut pour que tu avances vite sans trop t'user. Et après tu augmentes les développement en t'assurant de tenir ton rythme de pédalage et tu fais durer le plus longtemps possible, encore et encore jusqu'à t'y habituer. Un peu comme un San Goku avec l'entrainement avec de la gravité.
@@ankousama5840 faudrait que je m'achète un capteur de puissance, j'arrive pas vraiment à avoir un bon rythme, à chaque fois c'est plus fort que moi je me donne à 70/80% et je fatigue très vite au bout de 60 à 80km selon le dénivelé..
Mais bon c'est bon à savoir je vais essayer de m'y mettre sérieusement et de progresser en remontant les cuisses. Moi c'est le contraire, je prefere mettre un petit braquet et faire tourner les jambes ^^
Merci de la réponse, c'est dommage syr youtube y a personne qui en parle de comment pédaler correctement
上りで苦しくて、
何とか楽したい、
何とか心拍上げたくない、
そんな時、膝を腹に当てる感じで回してました。
間違いじゃなかった！
シモジマンありがとう、好き❤️
Moral lesson, do not grind. High cadence automatically corrects your form.
Do not follow this video. It is wrong on so many levels and a way to overload or injure your hip flexors. Just pedal naturally. Yes I am a cycling coach with 17 years experience.
十分认同！！！
On climb I going with my head,not with legs,specialy if climb very long.
Pusing,not puling!
Cadence?60?80?
足を振り下ろした瞬間に木から枝がボロボロ落っこちてきててシモジマンの脚力の強さがうかがえる
震脚…
衝撃的な足元ですね。
地球の反対側大地震やから
ここまで飛び膝蹴りペダリングではないがこの意識でペダリングしたらめちゃくちゃ楽になって驚いたわ
しかもやる前より全然力も要らなくなったのにスピードが倍ぐらいになった
そして足上げるへその横辺りのインナーマッスル的なとこが弱いのかそこがすぐヘロヘロなって力入らなくなった
全然違うとこ今まで使ってたんだろうな
このペダリングして新たに気付いたがペダルというのは回転するのでその回転も上手く使えたら新たな道が開けるかもしれない
そう思ってやったがきつくなっただけだった
足首は無駄に動かさない方がいいのかも
I was confused until I realized bro rides clipless
My boy wants us flat peddlers to hurt ourselves
Who rides roadbikes with flats anyways?
@@klorskarjar132everyone that doesn't want to look like a deuche when stopping by for a coffee
@@shalahuddinumar3386 why would you do that if you can KOM all over the hill instead?
@@klorskarjar132 Riding on city roads where you share the space with cars flats are just safer. I barely see anyone in the city ride clipless. They don't ride in contested bumper to bumper traffic where I am. clipless can get you +50 watts in SOME scenarios, which is a lot to a racer, but to everyone else that's not important we really don't care, flats are very comfortable, and there's times in traffic where you need to move your leg in less than the half a second to full second it would take most to unclip. It's not that you're wrong, but it's a mind set that only applies to elites. most people don't need, or want, and are also not good enough to use clipless safely.
@@klorskarjar132you can’t out jerk the flats bro
Good advice! Thanks
Thanks for the tips!
Just passed 2 on an incline doing this 29 minutes ago. They looked stronger than me. I've been focusing on form lately, and the second I correct myself, the pedaling gets easier.
Pulling up on the pedal is not optimal and can overload your hip flexors as well as cause lower back issues
do you even know what the video is about? on a short climb it's totally worth to pull
@@fryderykfranciszekchopin6888 enjoy getting dropped buddy x
@@fryderykfranciszekchopin6888 It's only worth to pull if you are doing neuromuscular efforts e.g., sprinting or 1m standing max effort. Unless you are attacking or sprinting for the win in a race, there is no point in straining your hip flexors and lower back to climb a short hill. If you want to get faster, you need to ride more controlled. No one cares if you got up the first hill on your club ride if you can't pull at the front, your back is hurting 50km later, or you pick up an overuse injury.
Gracias tus videos me han ayudado mucho
予想外の鋭利な膝蹴り～🎵伝えたい事はわかるよ
Ahh ok... I haven't done this approach before. I always stomp on the pedals. I'll try this on the weekend. Thank you shimojiman!
Luar biasa.. ❤❤
No. Dont use your hip flexors.
蹴り足意識するときに脳内で
｢ﾀｲｶﾞｰｷｯｸ、ﾀｲｶﾞｰｷｯｸ｣
って言ってます。フォームが崩れなくてイイ！
Wooaa ❤❤
The technique on climbing a hill easily is to climb it repeatedly until you become stronger... No matter what strategy you use if your not well trained ur gonna stall at the muddle of that climb
저도 알려주신 대로 해 봤더니 페달링이 확실히 다른 것 같더군요... 굿..!
그래서 클릿이 중요하죠ㅋ
평페달이면 불가능ㅋㅋ
@@epfxm6596 아... 저는 평페달입니다... ㅎㅎ
Excelente ya puedes fichar por un worldtour
I Like this tutorial on power burst up hills
I climb standing. I Ride standing full time
Turn on your favorite power music until your song ends. 😂.
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Так же люди в топталках:
🤕
😂that is exactly the opposite that must be done: pushing not pulling
Guy changed from difficulty 10 to difficulty 1 😂😂🚴👍
やっぱりフラペでクライム(最高20%平均10%ぐらいの所)はおかしかったんですね()
走ったのは2〜3km
フラペは7%でも十分やのに六甲山とかの5~26%の環境無理
とてもわかりやすい！
올리는 기술 너무 쓰면 근육경련이 와요
上げる技術を使いすぎると筋肉のけいれんになります
Pulling up is an old philosophy that has no science behind it is what I’ve been reading
So sayeth a bunch of nerds who have never ridden a bike before
According to my trainer it's important to both pull and push but pushing uses two of the bodys biggest muscles (glutes and quads) so it's a lot more powerful
I have experienced before thet pushing hurt my knees a lot, and now i take it as 1 min push 1 min pull. Now my knees doesn’t hurt anymore. It is better to
Strengthen all leg muscles than focusing on pushing alone.
@@williamsundkvist69 Glutes and quads are activated in the pedal stroke without pulling up. As above, it is an old myth. We now know it doesn't work because of vector analysis tools in power meter pedals.
@@williamsundkvist69 Quads extend the knee joint. Glutes extend the hip joint. Both of these extensions happen when you push down. We now know that if you pull up you just work against the other legs trying to push down. Pulling up requires you to sync pulling up with one leg at the exact time you are pushing down with the other at 80 - 90+ times a minute. Just pedal naturally and use gravity to your advantage by pushing down.
я так на топатлках попробовал, уебался ногой об руль и упал, спасибо китаец
это японец
Vậy là leo đèo thì phải dùng lực nâng chân lên chứ không phải đạp xuống à bro?😅
🆗👍👍👍
Y por estos pesimos consejos no vemos asiaticos en el world tour
😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍
Hip flexors vs quads and hamstrings.
Which will last longer.😅
唐突にサガットw
タイガーッニークラッシュ🦵
空気圧高すぎやろ
Thanks for the reminder …I’ll make sure to pedal THAT way up the whole mountain
Lol, he did say short hill
Well DUH….
🙄🤣🤣🤣
Well, i use flat pedal so the pedal tip doesn't apply to me.
Bad form. You want max air in the lungs when climbing so keep head up and chest forward. Hands further back to straighten the back. You will last 5 miles and call it a day going like that.
I think you better putting the power in on the down stroke. If you do it your way all you're getting is a sore chin.
Will that posture collapse your diaphragm?
Bro, how much is your yonex bike?
정말 많이 배웁니다!
60 cadence is normal for me. I hope when I hit hills I can get to 70. Lol
Why pull instead of pushing?
backpain👍🏼☑️
what if you dont have clip ins lol
Good to now
“Just pedal harder bro”
Ever heard of getting out of your saddle?😅
So brace your core and focus on your leg upswing not the down push
bruh that’s tired vs first 5 minutes of the ride
Ah, because he rides with clips
Oh shot thats turn to muaythai
Good 😅💪👏👏👏🇦🇷☯️👽🙏🤾🚵🏼♀️🚴🏾♂️
御堂筋翔くんは背筋まっすぐですが常人には真似できませんね😅
連続して膝蹴りする感覚で漕いでましたが合ってますか！？
great
where's gearing?
What’s the knee and stomp part about? I don’t get it
How do u do this without clip shoes tho 😭
何だかんだ脚の性能さ
Vor einem Jahrzehnt noch in China auf Eseln unterwegs und uns nun erklären wollen, wie man bergauf Fahrrad fährt. Okay! Wenn es nur ansatzweise richtig wäre...😂
Dziękuję
So the key is to pedal faster?!?
Faut-il encore arriver à tenir le rythme 😉
Gracias a tus concejos me lesione 😅.
これは焼き肉を焼くイメージでしょうか。
ワロタｗｗｗ
Cuando llevas 100kilometros lo subes como puede 😊😊😊
What does it mean kicking?
Science has proven for ages that actively pulling up is extremely inefficient. But our bro here seems to know better and needs to spread his "wisdom" in the Internet. Oh my...
Hell no. Tryin to destroy mu back? Absolutely NOT putting that bend in my back.
What do you mean by the kick action?
He wants to injure someone
Upward motion to drive the cranks forward
@@Kiryukai ah ok
Should the hands be on the top hoods or on the flat handlebar ?
flat bar
Y cuando se estalle ??
So less pints then..😢
I dontunderstand this video ..
I don’t either
Don't worry. He has no idea what he's doing. It's like a chapter of Bro Science.
No, the most efficient way to clime is singing Hime song
サイクリストの膝蹴りは痛いぞ
Ya. Tell that to dudes with big cores. 😂
In the comments: no one undersrands pedal strokes.
疲れるとどうしても悪いフォームになってしまいますね(^_^;)
Bro only bogaçar can do like that
Try that with a number on yoiur back and 80 high cat riders, lol;
Question: sometimes when I attack climbs with full power, I notice that I’m literally pulling my back wheel off the ground - what’s the cause and how can I fix that?
try higher cadence. try pull with the arm at the opposite site of the leg that is pushing down at full efforts. improve pedaling technique. The rounder your pedaling is, the less this will happen. It happens when you put all your weight to the front while pulling hard on one pedal. A seated max effort with very high cadence will most likely be more efficient then wasting power this way. If your rpm are too low when getting out of the saddle on a climb this will eventually happen.
@@oranjid makes sense, appreciate the tips, ride on !! 🫡👍
@@C_Sour_48 :) You will get there...sometimes still happens to me when I am already exhausted and drop cadence or not shift down far enough down on a short a hill when sprinting it. Good to have a small steep hill to train this on your route!
If you are not already doing it, you need to hinge at the hips while out of the saddle rather than looking upright as if you are running. As the other guy mentions, this often happens if your cadence is too low, since it makes you lean forward into the pedal stroke. There is a host of other reasons why this might be happening to you, but this is a common reason :)
Oh, yeah... I almost forgot (this also relates to sprinting)... you shouldn't just snap from 200w to 1000w. The difference in force is what snaps the rear wheel. If you drive it up a few pedalstrokes before to wind it up and then shift during the attack as well, it's more stable, sustainable and probably higher watts too since efficient cadence rises with higher watts (e.g., 90 cadence is inefficient in sprints but good for threshold)
@@YannickOkpara-d5l @oranjid Thx guys! I will apply all this in my rides going forward as i look to improve my technique, much appreciation!
Я не понимаю почему он коленкой бьет воздух😂
Muaythai his ass move
膝蹴りの領域
Hurt ya back
😅😅😅 moi apres des efforts intense en velo je fais la pose biere a la maison 😅😅😅🍺🍺🍺🍺
Ilariussss
Me dijeron para ir más rápido pierde 10 kg que tienes de mas😂😂
I believe this instructional video is for the benefit of the deaf and mute.😂
C’mon , at least write some captions in English to get to the scientific principle of the technique. This ain’t no silent comic strip.
Mucho postureo veo yo aqui,ni siquiera te vi en el tour,la vuelta a Españo o el giro,donde estabas grabando estas chorradas?😂😂😂😂😂
Impossible without cleated pedals. Some gravel riders and most MTBers are still on flat.
Why is curved body better?
It's not. The only reason to have a flexed spine is if leaning further forward destabilizes your pelvis - and even then, you should just make your position less aggressive to maintain a flat back unless you are competing and have a flexible and strong spine that won't get injured, since this is extremely unhealthy for your discs.
Khao trong
それは膝蹴りなんよ
好きに登ればいいねんて
What’s with the legs. I don’t get what he wants from me ?
be lighter and pedal harder