What if ZAMASU Was DEFEATED? - Discussion

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  • @Joshua-rp3oc
    @Joshua-rp3oc 4 роки тому +84

    I know cell Blinking was creepy thats why I did it

  • @jamieplaines
    @jamieplaines 4 роки тому +123

    Blinking Incredicell isnt real, he cant hurt you
    Blinking Incredicell:

  • @SaladSaiyan
    @SaladSaiyan  4 роки тому +147

    Thanks to Josh again for editing this :] if you’re seeing this then play TF2 with me

  • @SaladSaiyan
    @SaladSaiyan  4 роки тому +113

    Here come the people commenting that they loved the video, not even one minute after the video drops

  • @donsauyce9156
    @donsauyce9156 4 роки тому +40

    Ichigo to Incredicell: Stop, Blinkiiiing.
    Josh: Neveeeeeerrrrr!!!

  • @epicmike205
    @epicmike205 4 роки тому +52

    I don't know how I feel about his eyes blinking

  • @nowelltheowl5619
    @nowelltheowl5619 4 роки тому +27

    "If they made smarter decisions, Trunks wouldn't have to live with a copy of himself in another time line."
    He also wouldn't have to live with a copy of himself if he just STAYED IN THE PAST. HE WAS HIS OWN PERSON AND BOTH OF THEM WERE DIFFERENT FROM THEIR PAST COUNTERPARTS.
    P.s. I'm typing this before finishing the video, will edit if my point was addressed.

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, the whole thing of having Future Trunks leave was such a bad decision that it hurts my head, especially in-universe. Oh yeah, swell job there gods, you were SO against time travel stuff, let's just have the time travel people, who can't really time travel anymore because their timeline IS DEAD, go to another timeline, causing still more time travel shenanigans, and throwing more chaos into that system, so that we could get still more time travel problems in the future because of this decision.
      I honestly chalk this up to a not wanting to mess up the end of Z thing. It wouldn't have messed with the next arc in any bad way, so you can't blame that...
      Well, unless whatever weird transformation Trunks got really isn't that much better than the other regular super saiyan forms, and him with a legit God Form would have been *that much* of a beast. But who knows with Toei?

  • @samueljackson5436
    @samueljackson5436 4 роки тому +40

    Honestly that part about forcing a fusion of Zamasu and Gowasu would've been an interesting counterpoint to Kibitoshin we had before. Obviously unlike then where Shin's personality was effectively all that was there we'd have a struggling new Kai that would need to come to terms with what and who they are now. On the other hand if the Kibitoshin situation showed that in a Kai to Apprentice Kai fusion that the Kai proper always has dominance then Gowasu would've won out and sort of become his own successor since he wouldn't need a replacement as I imagine the ages would sort of even out for the fusion.
    Also surprised you didn't mention a point we've never seen before, targeting the potara of an existing fusion. like can they be removed to defuse? if not then for Kai fusions that last forever can they just keep adding Kais to the fusion like Namekians?

    • @arthursmith1181
      @arthursmith1181 4 роки тому +9

      That kai fusion would also work because Gowasu did ask if Zamasu would like to try and fuse with him.
      It would have been like foreshadowing.

  • @chandlerdoeswhatifs9399
    @chandlerdoeswhatifs9399 4 роки тому +12

    One whatif I've always really wanted to see ever since the manga got to the tournament of power arc was this:
    What if Master Roshi taught his pseudo ultra isntinct technique to his students? This would assume he knew it since the original draognball or sometime later around the Android saga
    I think it would be extremely interesting to see certain characters pursuing a technique that focuses on skill and finesse rather than pure power. It would give the humans something to strive for as well

  • @Ludee27
    @Ludee27 4 роки тому +20

    I’m gonna be honest the Avatar blinking is really unnerving, maybe it’s because of how slowly he blinks idk it just give a really uncanny valley effect

  • @s-boy4613
    @s-boy4613 4 роки тому +9

    0:24
    Am I tripping or is incredacell blinking? That's kinda creepy. Lol

  • @Echo_Chambers14
    @Echo_Chambers14 4 роки тому +14

    This is a cool video idea. you should do more like these

    • @Gappy738
      @Gappy738 4 роки тому +1

      Yea that is a good idea!

  • @imperfectmyst
    @imperfectmyst 4 роки тому +4

    Vegito's Comeback Got Robbed From Trunks's Friendship is Magic asspull with No Explanation

  • @antihero627
    @antihero627 4 роки тому +8

    I would've preferred if Trunks had defeated Black with that sick Galick Gun or if Vegeta defeated Black and Zamasu was sealed away or if if the Spirit Sword defeated Merged Zamasu, it was still kinda cool. They could've at least made Trunks and Mai stay in the present timeline rather than just going to another one with their counterparts in it.

    • @XJSPlays02
      @XJSPlays02 4 роки тому +1

      There Would've Been Two Trunks And Two Mais

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero 4 роки тому

      @@XJSPlays02 If you spend 5 minutes thinking about it, you'll realize it makes no sense in-universe for them to send Future Mai and Future Trunks to another timeline. It was literally just there to put the characters on a bus so they wouldn't be in the next arc.

  • @scorchtrix3683
    @scorchtrix3683 4 роки тому +29

    The ending was kinda stupid also trunks went to a different timeline that also had a trunks and Mia so why didn't he just stay

    • @_WiZ420
      @_WiZ420 4 роки тому +1

      it'd be the one time a Saiyan would wish potaras were permanent lool

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 роки тому

      @Gerry Scotti how is the 1 hour time limit not canon?

    • @_WiZ420
      @_WiZ420 4 роки тому

      @Gerry Scotti completely false, it's infinite for kai fusions and 1 hour for mortal fusions. The manga and anime are treated as two canons that coincide, and they both state this, do they not?

    • @pranavdatar9170
      @pranavdatar9170 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah that was the stupidest thing.

    • @scorchtrix3683
      @scorchtrix3683 4 роки тому +1

      @@pranavdatar9170 I know right he left since there was a trunks and Mia to a timeline with trunks and mia

  • @DarrielOni
    @DarrielOni 4 роки тому +23

    The weirdly slow blinking feels very sexually suggestive

  • @RamielEdits
    @RamielEdits 4 роки тому +6

    Salad: *blinks*
    Me: *CONFUSED SCREAMING*

  • @Aimai.37
    @Aimai.37 4 роки тому +4

    Tbf my main point was the one with the God's, how despite what was going on, none of them even so much as checked up on the other universes

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 4 роки тому +5

    Actually, I dont mind the spirit sword too much
    I think it was dope that Trunks used his power and the power of the mortals to beat zamasu himself.
    MY gripe with the sword is it had no build up, nor allusion as to him being able to do sumn like that. If THAT was fixed and it was revealed that he learned it from king kai in his time of being a kai or that goku taught him the gist of it I'd be fine with it.

    • @thatonedude977
      @thatonedude977 Рік тому +1

      The spirit sword would have been a perfect ending but nooooooooo someone without god ki getting the kill was not gonna happen

  • @coldore6734
    @coldore6734 4 роки тому +2

    This editing was excellent,excellent job josh

  • @nigerianprince0245
    @nigerianprince0245 4 роки тому +4

    Nice intro and edits!!

  • @HighLifeProds17
    @HighLifeProds17 4 роки тому +1

    I guess this is why this arc is frequently glossed over in your stories...

  • @sirnutaku7716
    @sirnutaku7716 4 роки тому +4

    I dont know how I feel about Salad blinking, I like how it has movement now but also kinda creepy wathcing the video and having Salad look at me and blink but it's also cool so I'm okay with it for now

  • @pranavdatar9170
    @pranavdatar9170 4 роки тому +2

    Goku Black arc has its ups and downs but this arc was needed IMO.
    If only they had added Vegeta Black with God of Destruction in training as Vegeta Black it would have been better. Super Saiyan Rosé and Super Saiyan Purple

  • @kage1573
    @kage1573 4 роки тому +1

    I think it would have been better if they built up Trunks' spirit sword earlier and have him refine it to where when he uses i against Merged Zamasu it makes sense; have Goku Black break Trunks' sword before he goes to the past and have Trunks train in the time chamber and use his ki to develop a new blade in order to fight Goku Black.
    Goku Black's power ups were actually explained due to him saying that "the pain only makes me stronger" which illustrates that because of the mind of a God and the body of a saiyan Zamasu developed a advanced version of the saiyan zenkai boost.

  • @johnrumerortuoste3506
    @johnrumerortuoste3506 4 роки тому +3

    What if goku mastered super saiyan on yardrat after namek (ssj gr4)

  • @deusgamemaster2242
    @deusgamemaster2242 4 роки тому

    YOOOOOO! That eye animation is SICK! and ideas too!

  • @emberproductions8841
    @emberproductions8841 4 роки тому +3

    The thing with Zamasu coming back after being sliced in half and the timeline erasure is what I don't like about the arc. Either have have Trunks and Mai stay in the past or Zamasu stays dead after the Spirit Sword

  • @yaboittash
    @yaboittash 4 роки тому +5

    "Thanks to Josh for editing this!"
    Also Josh: "The Goku Black arc is dogshit"

  • @shadetalksanime4231
    @shadetalksanime4231 4 роки тому +3

    Let's gooooooooo can't wait to watch this combination

  • @ethanhutley1204
    @ethanhutley1204 4 роки тому +2

    Fused zamasu can be killed by anything that can break him apart since his goku black part isn't immortal but zamasu is so the zamasu part will try to regen but it cant because goku black isnt so he starting to brake apart when he is mortally wounded

  • @gokubread2733
    @gokubread2733 4 роки тому

    his channel is evolving its quality

  • @dmitribrutus5543
    @dmitribrutus5543 4 роки тому +2

    Although the part of Zamasu was sealed could be interesting. Vegito Blue would’ve stalled for time to get the seal while they drain Zamasu’s Stamina or catch them off guard.

  • @hustonovich
    @hustonovich 4 роки тому +2

    It would've been interesting if Future Mai unintentionally destroyed Goku Black's potara earring when she shot him with her sniper rifle.

    • @XJSPlays02
      @XJSPlays02 4 роки тому

      They Could've Gotten More From U10

  • @kobeanukam723
    @kobeanukam723 4 роки тому

    I like this new editing!

  • @SpectroliteDS2400
    @SpectroliteDS2400 4 роки тому +3

    I SEE SALAD BLINKING!

  • @aakh2707
    @aakh2707 4 роки тому +3

    blinking incredicell is veeery creepy...

  • @Artsig06
    @Artsig06 4 роки тому +2

    Can you do what if goku got his potential unlocked by GURU?

  • @ellisplay1655
    @ellisplay1655 4 роки тому +3

    Nice video

  • @alexandremiranda9148
    @alexandremiranda9148 4 роки тому

    Cool af editing salad

  • @astolfo2305
    @astolfo2305 4 роки тому +8

    things that ruined goku black act
    1:potara retcon
    2:Trunks ssj rage
    3:Zamasu Turning into Universe

    • @clauddavidguerrier5929
      @clauddavidguerrier5929 4 роки тому +2

      Ssj rage literally makes 0 sense
      An angry sayian = ssj rage? Nigga that’s just ssj2 tf
      I wish it had a better explanation

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero 4 роки тому +1

      @@clauddavidguerrier5929 The original idea fans had at the time. A halfway state between God and Super Saiyan. It would have fixed a ton of issues, though it would have pretty much solidified that Trunks base > Goku and Vegeta's base, and I think that's why they didn't do it.

    • @thiagocavendish2928
      @thiagocavendish2928 4 роки тому +1

      Things that i didn't like in the goku Black arc :
      Zeno erazing zamasu
      Future trunks not staying in the past
      Trunks didn't got ssj god
      Vegeta wining agains black
      Goku inguering fused zamasu (alone)

  • @waldineytorres8578
    @waldineytorres8578 4 роки тому +3

    Credicell strange blinking is messing my OCD.

  • @bradfordhatch5085
    @bradfordhatch5085 4 роки тому

    Having acute vision problems, I thought I was imagining things the first time I saw "cell" blinking like that. Made me do some blinking of my own before I realized my eyes weren't tricking me (this time), let me tell you! lol

  • @antoniacorrales9148
    @antoniacorrales9148 4 роки тому

    9:46 I feel like goku would know about it since in the moro arc he states that he didn't have time to learn it.

  • @KT11th.random
    @KT11th.random 4 роки тому +1

    I didn’t know salad could blink...

  • @dave_sb639
    @dave_sb639 4 роки тому +3

    In my opinion this should've happened in cannon

  • @superbaby3273
    @superbaby3273 4 роки тому +4

    That fake Goku got what was coming he’ll never be at my level!

  • @mosesmakola4249
    @mosesmakola4249 4 роки тому

    Lord Beerus can't time travel because you're not allowed to mess with time.

  • @QP_lite
    @QP_lite 4 роки тому +1

    That blinking animation kinda scares me idk why

  • @michaelwinbush6396
    @michaelwinbush6396 4 роки тому +1

    U could have trunks and goku learning the mafuba at the same time and since trunks is a cautious person, he would not only remember to get the seal but would also seal zamasu easier then in canon and have goku, vegeta, and trunks all gang up on goku black and kill him

  • @drewhutchison3115
    @drewhutchison3115 3 роки тому +1

    Please do what if Goku mastered spirit control?

  • @zojirushi1
    @zojirushi1 4 роки тому

    What’s the song at 0:50?

  • @Luhhmlkehavin
    @Luhhmlkehavin 4 роки тому +3

    What if whis didn’t reverse time on resurrection of F?

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 роки тому

      Then Goku teleports to Namek.

    • @omarqassas7095
      @omarqassas7095 4 роки тому

      @@davidlarkin1040 vegeta gets hurt in the pride because he failed at beating his arch enemy

  • @InfiniteNight1653
    @InfiniteNight1653 4 роки тому +2

    I know anime war isn’t canon but what if archon turned good?

  • @j0shu1_63
    @j0shu1_63 4 роки тому +2

    The Blinking tho

  • @GuataShock
    @GuataShock 4 роки тому +1

    Please do what if Frieza trained growing up

  • @Julius_sanchez978
    @Julius_sanchez978 4 роки тому

    I got one instead of goku and vegeta doing the potara fusion they do the fusion dance instead because then there special attack soul punisher is basically a rainbow spirt bomb right and boom arc ending right there

  • @carcar7995
    @carcar7995 4 роки тому +1

    12:15 That would be at least 2 hours long

  • @NitroGaming_
    @NitroGaming_ 4 роки тому +1

    Bro so i saw your "What if Gohan was in MHA" i have a video idea "what if One punch man aka (the hero for fun) was in dragon ball sayain Arc".

  • @somewildgaming961
    @somewildgaming961 4 роки тому +1

    Blinking Salad though 😳

  • @JocaPlays87
    @JocaPlays87 4 роки тому

    I accually saw a very good theory that when zamazu and goku black fused, half of the body was immortal and half mortal (since you cant be half immortal than he body was a piece of goku black, a mixed part and a piece of zamazu) so when vegito used the final kamehameha, goku black just died and the purple thing is just dead goku black, and when zamazu becomes... everything in the end, we only see the face of zamazu, goku black is nowhere to be seen

  • @Durkadur_II
    @Durkadur_II 4 роки тому +3

    I'm sorry but the blinking incredicell isn't it

  • @sherika6253
    @sherika6253 4 роки тому

    I see you start making your icon eyes start moving or is it me lol😂😂😂😂

  • @mastrblastr8662
    @mastrblastr8662 4 роки тому

    0:15 the duality of man

  • @Normandy1998
    @Normandy1998 4 роки тому +1

    Another way to fix the seal argument, say goku remember to bring the seal but goku black destroys it, either a way to save zamasu or using his info on goku past

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero 4 роки тому

      God I wish they had just done that. The level of flanderization that particular aspect of the arc did to Goku really hurt the characters portrayal for the rest of the series, IMO. Like, seriously, that particular part of the arc IMO caused damage to Goku as a *brand*.

    • @Normandy1998
      @Normandy1998 4 роки тому

      @@ASNS117Zero best joy i got out of stupid super goku, has to be Totally not mark on these annoying moments, I get goku isn't a genius, but he's smart and respectful, I don't mind him talking to zeno, but compare how he acted around shin when he was first introduced and beerus, at least at first he was respectful

  • @FearfulDivine
    @FearfulDivine 4 роки тому +2

    I don’t think the eyes blinking works it kinda looks oof and I notice the mouth continuously turns pitch black up to you though

  • @michaeleverett1376
    @michaeleverett1376 4 роки тому

    I wonder if the sword of hope thing could be fixed if Black broke the sword earlier in the story and Trunks used his ki to make it and train with it.

  • @lightningmr_dt
    @lightningmr_dt 4 роки тому

    So heres a question.
    Would zamasu get annoyed at topo?
    He trained to become a god by being with his god of destruction
    So wouldn't berus or whis tell someone they have students and zamasu realise this from even gowasu.

  • @brodie3757
    @brodie3757 4 роки тому

    Loved the vid

  • @sigma_franco2790
    @sigma_franco2790 4 роки тому

    this video was dope!!!

  • @starcrasher6065
    @starcrasher6065 4 роки тому

    Damn what song is this, it is badass Man!

  • @jgoofy8233
    @jgoofy8233 4 роки тому

    Tbh, the only logical way to permanently beat Fusion Zamasu without breaking rules such as traversing time or using Hakai, is to simply wait out their fusion. They can hide for an hour and since Zamasu isn't hell bent on instantaneously killing everything at once, they would assume they went back in time.
    Then as soon as they de-fuse, all the Saiyans wail on Black, and Zamasu would just be sealed in some way.

  • @karentype8489
    @karentype8489 4 роки тому +1

    Those eyes 👀 love it but I can find it a phobia in the future. Ironic.

  • @mymanpant9433
    @mymanpant9433 4 роки тому +4

    What if mr.Krabs was in dbs

    • @SaladSaiyan
      @SaladSaiyan  4 роки тому +1

      Awesome scenario, definitely gonna look into that one

    • @TevinBlair
      @TevinBlair 4 роки тому

      @@SaladSaiyan You know you've could've have them target and destroy the time rings because it would be very interesting to see what would happen if they're destroyed. That sounds very interesting to you? It might make a great what if.

  • @sonicsaiyan07
    @sonicsaiyan07 4 роки тому

    Shilling for my favorite character aside, I think the arc could've ended much cleaner if they brought Gohan along for the final battle. Have Gohan feel guilty about being inactive while Trunks and the others were fighting and he decides to lend a hand, make it a redemptive moment for him. Also, remember, when Goku went to learn the Mafuba from Roshi, Piccolo showed it to everyone else so naturally, if he'd gone along he'd have a seal too (and it'd make more sense than Trunks learning it off of a video) so whether Goku screwed up or not, Zamasu would get sealed away for sure then have all 4 of them defeat Black together. To keep it balanced however, have Black summon his clones to keep Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan busy while Trunks fights Black 1v1 for the last time. Have either Vegeta or Gohan (his father and a version of his old teacher) help deal the killing blow and BOOM! Or, worst case scenario, Black manages to free Zamasu, they fuse, but the heroes have TWO sets of Potara earrings with both Gowasu and Shin so we could potentially get Vegito and a Gohan/Trunks fusion. At that point, the Spirit Sword would make SOME sense cause Fusions pull stupid bullshit out of nowhere anyway. Vegito defuses cause SS Blue uses more energy, Zamasu's weakened and his immortality is fading, Trunkhan uses some new Fusion Only Technique to kill him and BANG. Everybody wins.

  • @Aman519YourHost
    @Aman519YourHost 4 роки тому

    Eyo I see ur avatar blinking now Salad
    Good shit

  • @john98765333
    @john98765333 4 роки тому

    Gowasu fusing with Zamasu would basically just make Zamasu stronger, Since Zamasu is already the stronger one, by a large amount if powerscaling is taken into account, then He would be the dominant part of the fusion by far, like with Shin and Kibito. Except probably more so.

  • @orion6397
    @orion6397 4 роки тому +1

    They could have just let vegito’s final kamehameha kill fused zamasu.

  • @Lilej00
    @Lilej00 4 роки тому

    What’s the beat used in the video called

  • @ryanmartiliano2601
    @ryanmartiliano2601 4 роки тому +7

    the eye animation on salad looks weird, you should add more moving parts or remove the eye animation.

  • @MuhaamadAreeb
    @MuhaamadAreeb 8 місяців тому

    They wanted to give a point in the series. Time travel equals destruction.
    So it makes sense everything went to shit

  • @user-zz5jx1ys9c
    @user-zz5jx1ys9c 4 роки тому +1

    What if piccilo was half saiyan

  • @pal7316
    @pal7316 4 роки тому

    Blinking Salad Cell is cursed

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 4 роки тому

    6:03
    Sad part is they kinda always fight like that.
    Imagine if the moment goku went ssj on namek he immediately grabbed freiza and tore his head off?
    Problem solved.
    They just dont capitalize on their advantages in power in dragonball.
    Vegeta shouldve taken blacks arms off with the power advantage he had.

  • @gamingandthings907
    @gamingandthings907 4 роки тому +1

    You if piccolo never fused with anyone

  • @jupiteralt
    @jupiteralt 4 роки тому

    Why do I like that Cell blinks.

  • @moziahhamilton4534
    @moziahhamilton4534 4 роки тому

    What if goku had son with a frost demon /freiza race

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 4 роки тому

    7:55
    Shin fusing with zamasu woildnt have been a bad idea.
    Kinda like how Ant man and ultron did in the comics
    Maybe shin-masu would still have a few of zamasus hateful traits but shin should be able to keep him in check.
    Also, they would be immortal fully.

  • @aidanbushnel890
    @aidanbushnel890 4 роки тому +1

    Trunks watching this like👁👄👁

  • @user-zz5jx1ys9c
    @user-zz5jx1ys9c 4 роки тому +1

    What if bardock was the super saiyan god and killed frieza

  • @omnisystem6030
    @omnisystem6030 4 роки тому

    In my DBS Rewrite (i don’t have a video for it it’s just something I was thinking of) I’m Changing the ending of the Future Trunks arc

  • @dashekboone
    @dashekboone 4 роки тому

    Yo can maybe do a " what if goku and vegeta worked together " kinda like kale and cauflia did in the ToP

  • @nathanharris26
    @nathanharris26 4 роки тому

    can you do a what if on what if pargeus and beats's ship was never dammged

  • @AnimeJR9025
    @AnimeJR9025 4 роки тому

    When black killed chichi and Goten would the Gohan piccolo or Vegeta of that time just come kill him

  • @Kurapikadwater
    @Kurapikadwater 4 роки тому +1

    Bro idk why this guys videos are always good
    Edit: Also your editor is awsome keep up the good work
    Second edit: I hope you get to 1 million subscribers soon

  • @protalghulnist4126
    @protalghulnist4126 4 роки тому

    I like the spirit sword only because I'd prefer trunks to get the win since its his timeline, I just wish they had powered him up in a way that makes more sense, or just provided an explanation

  • @arthursmith1181
    @arthursmith1181 4 роки тому

    Elder Kai can diffuse people who use the Potara fusion so they could use that technique.
    that is how Shin was diffused from Kibito.

  • @reidlindsey4838
    @reidlindsey4838 4 роки тому

    Blinking salad is unnerving

  • @AlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlex
    @AlexAlexAlexAlexAlexAlex 4 роки тому

    Could you do What if Goku landed on NAMEK

  • @markroman2293
    @markroman2293 4 роки тому

    What i dont understand is why didnt goku just use ssbk aginst goku black

    • @XJSPlays02
      @XJSPlays02 4 роки тому

      Because If He Did We Would've Saw Super Saiyan Rose Kaioken And You Know Black Would've Use It In Every Encounter They Had With Him

    • @markroman2293
      @markroman2293 4 роки тому +1

      @@XJSPlays02 oh ok