The frustrating part is that 80% of garages would have immediately put a starter in this without any testing whatsoever....thank you for being a professional.
The intriguing test journey can very often be the interesting or exciting bit though. I love finding a small issue that was creating such a big issue. I enjoyed this one 🙏🙏
I don't think you have 2 solenoids on that starter motor. It seems the functionality of what we refer to the typical pre-engaged starter motor solenoid has been split in 2. Appears the lower unit is a contactor and the upper is a solenoid that only throws out the motor gear(normal solenoid doing both these functions in one unit). A bit like the old inertia bendix motors that had the contactor mounted in the engine bay(a high amp relay). Can only hypothesize this contactor is beefier to accommodate the auto start stop.
Hey Christopher, thank you so much for your nice comment 🙏🙏 I enjoyed this job, they keep us on our toes & try not to fit parts that aren’t needed. I’m glad you enjoyed it & thanks again mate 😉😉
Good diag and fix, I have seen someone fit a second starter solenoid onto his stuff in the 90s, I can't remember his reason, I think he said the starter motor last longer. I've never seen it come standard on a car though. Cheers mate
I haven’t seen it before either but I’m sure we’ll figure it out in the near future. It made this starter out last the main power feed anyway 😂😂😂 Cheers Matt 🙏🙏
Just a bit of light hearted entertainment John. But weirdly as you well know most of us are learning something new every weekend while watching each other on these problems, cheers mate 🙏🙏
Hi Clive, it doesn’t really have a name but it is the main battery cable from the starter motor. It’s part of the loom so cannot be purchased easily 😬😬
Cool video brother. Two solenoids are bonkers, they make testing more of a headache they didn't need to add to the time. Ford need to fix that or make it very cheap to change or they lose another point on recommending ford to customers. Ford are in my top class but sometimes they get me wondering WTF they doing. So guys who no nothing about cars, get a ford car if you like them because they sell lots of them and parts are cheap or always online second-hand. Toyota or VW / Skoda are my top two the ford 3rd place. I would stick Skoda last for part prices, but they are so reliable I can't do it they go second over Toyota.
They are doing some crackers design additions on cars nowadays. I’m not sure whether these additions make them better or worse. I’ve had a few fords kick me in the bottom lately making me dislike them. Especially that 2.2 Transit or Ranger engine, with oil pumps, egr coolers & head gaskets. All in all I prefer Mazda’s 😬😬😬 Crazy or what 😂😂😂
@@kennedysgarage3281 💯 agree. VW used the same 1.9 2L for loads of cars and and change the design and that’s what I like about VW. Most people don’t give a monkeys what’s under the bonnet so they should just focus on appearance and feel for the consumer and leave the engine to the mechanics to make the decision. If I run ford I’d have mechanics doing the the feedback not technicians. Stupid simple will always keep the fitters happy and it’s the fitters that many people take the advice from. I also think also all electrical wiring should run across the roof and push fit everything so easy for all rewires and repairs they make that headache also giving no room or a full days work.
I try keep all sorts of wire connectors i pinch from cars we cut up at my other job as a firefighter just so i too have big connectors to hand for jobs like these. We think alike. 😂
It really does make life difficult at times, especially when you have a windscreen just over the rocker cover. 1 tip of a ratchet or spanner could cost you €1000. Stupid cars 😂😂😂
You are quite possibly right, I just haven’t ever seen this type set up before. But then it’s this kinda thing that keeps us hungry to learn. Cheers P 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 I'm not entirely sure but it was my first guess, as always the engines are evolving at an alarming rate, I guess we'll just have to delve in that bit further lol
The frustrating part is that 80% of garages would have immediately put a starter in this without any testing whatsoever....thank you for being a professional.
The intriguing test journey can very often be the interesting or exciting bit though. I love finding a small issue that was creating such a big issue. I enjoyed this one 🙏🙏
I don't think you have 2 solenoids on that starter motor. It seems the functionality of what we refer to the typical pre-engaged starter motor solenoid has been split in 2. Appears the lower unit is a contactor and the upper is a solenoid that only throws out the motor gear(normal solenoid doing both these functions in one unit). A bit like the old inertia bendix motors that had the contactor mounted in the engine bay(a high amp relay). Can only hypothesize this contactor is beefier to accommodate the auto start stop.
That sounds very plausible Dave, god cross reference with the older style inertia bendix. Something new to be learned everyday 👍👍
Bloody genius mate! Love watching your videos. Keep up the good work 👍🏼
Hey Christopher, thank you so much for your nice comment 🙏🙏
I enjoyed this job, they keep us on our toes & try not to fit parts that aren’t needed. I’m glad you enjoyed it & thanks again mate 😉😉
Pete da man as always, top spannering again my friend
Thank you Trevor, but just another day in the life 🙏🙏
Good diag and fix, I have seen someone fit a second starter solenoid onto his stuff in the 90s, I can't remember his reason, I think he said the starter motor last longer. I've never seen it come standard on a car though. Cheers mate
I haven’t seen it before either but I’m sure we’ll figure it out in the near future. It made this starter out last the main power feed anyway 😂😂😂
Cheers Matt 🙏🙏
This car shows that you can get a voltage drop with no current flow. I am guessing it would drop to no volts with current flow
Unfortunately I didn’t load test it Matt, but you sound correct
Excellent boss
@@JattaVictor I’m glad you liked it 🙏🙏🙏
Good job 👏 quick fix
Great find, Thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much. But just another day in the life, only with a camera in hand. Great to have a fellow UA-camr watching my content. Cheers mate 🙏🙏
Ace work, Pete - rapido fix!
You know these taxi lads, get me back on the road ASAP 😂😂😂😂
Excellent as always
Just a bit of light hearted entertainment John. But weirdly as you well know most of us are learning something new every weekend while watching each other on these problems, cheers mate 🙏🙏
Great vid pete, just wondering if this is common ive 2016 mondeo with same issue what is the wire called .
Hi Clive, it doesn’t really have a name but it is the main battery cable from the starter motor. It’s part of the loom so cannot be purchased easily 😬😬
great video Sir
Thank you Colm, I’m glad you enjoyed it. Possibly beats watching some silly tv Series 😬😂😂😂😂
Apparently the second solenoid is actually a relay.Something to do with protecting the ignition switch
Ooh very interesting. That does make a bit more sense 👏👏
Cool video brother. Two solenoids are bonkers, they make testing more of a headache they didn't need to add to the time. Ford need to fix that or make it very cheap to change or they lose another point on recommending ford to customers. Ford are in my top class but sometimes they get me wondering WTF they doing. So guys who no nothing about cars, get a ford car if you like them because they sell lots of them and parts are cheap or always online second-hand. Toyota or VW / Skoda are my top two the ford 3rd place. I would stick Skoda last for part prices, but they are so reliable I can't do it they go second over Toyota.
They are doing some crackers design additions on cars nowadays. I’m not sure whether these additions make them better or worse.
I’ve had a few fords kick me in the bottom lately making me dislike them. Especially that 2.2 Transit or Ranger engine, with oil pumps, egr coolers & head gaskets.
All in all I prefer Mazda’s 😬😬😬
Crazy or what 😂😂😂
@@kennedysgarage3281 💯 agree. VW used the same 1.9 2L for loads of cars and and change the design and that’s what I like about VW.
Most people don’t give a monkeys what’s under the bonnet so they should just focus on appearance and feel for the consumer and leave the engine to the mechanics to make the decision. If I run ford I’d have mechanics doing the the feedback not technicians. Stupid simple will always keep the fitters happy and it’s the fitters that many people take the advice from.
I also think also all electrical wiring should run across the roof and push fit everything so easy for all rewires and repairs they make that headache also giving no room or a full days work.
I try keep all sorts of wire connectors i pinch from cars we cut up at my other job as a firefighter just so i too have big connectors to hand for jobs like these. We think alike. 😂
😂😂😂 I hate being stuck and knowing that I had thrown out one of those bits I needed a week beforehand 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
To make more space manufactures are really cramping 😫 everything under the bonnet 😫 its makes our job horrible...cheers Peter
It really does make life difficult at times, especially when you have a windscreen just over the rocker cover. 1 tip of a ratchet or spanner could cost you €1000.
Stupid cars 😂😂😂
Great video as always Peter, second solenoid possibly for start/stop ??
You are quite possibly right, I just haven’t ever seen this type set up before. But then it’s this kinda thing that keeps us hungry to learn. Cheers P 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 I'm not entirely sure but it was my first guess, as always the engines are evolving at an alarming rate, I guess we'll just have to delve in that bit further lol
@@peterarries7879 you are correct, Dave Sterling just mentioned it 💪💪
Happy new year to you all 🎉
Happy new year Anto 👍👍
nice catch :)
Thank you 🙏🙏
Hi i have problem transactions control on and tyre pressure and engain lighte
Hi Husein, you will need to get a mechanic or automotive technician to take a look at it. You most likely have 2 or 3 issues 😔😔
Hi Peter any recommendations for a scan tool under 300 in your experience ? Thanks
I find this Kingbolen a good little tool.
I put a link in the comments
Kingbolen S600 scantool review
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Hi mate 👋👋
Hello, my teacher.
@@resadsubasic6788 thank you, UA-cam is a great source of knowledge for us all. Thank you sir 🙏🙏