I had over 150 hours of play last season and never once died around a corner. Also, I don't think you factor for the fact all the one shots were not fun to play against, and those one shot were not skill expressive. Just pulling out an RPG and throwing it in the general direction of a light is not skill expressive. I would be down if they increased Headshot multipliers across the board, but rewarding players with free kills is not the way. Most of my friends quit the game to go back to CS in S2, because of all the Nuke's and shit.
Yeah this guy is exaggerating hard af. Getting killed around corners is a LOT more subtle and it's really only by a few cm difference. In reality, he's dying cause he got caught. He's definitely not dying goddamn 5 meters behind cover lmao
I reckon nerf mediums hp to 225 and nerf heavy’s hp to 300or 325 and buff their gadgets and them give small buffs to light aswell . And the game would be less sustainy and more fun tbh
Lol what? You went from complaining about visual recoil to complaining that you can't 1 shot lights with bs anymore? That stuff absolutely sucked, in a game with a higher ttk rpgs and mines were broken because as a light you would die with almost zero opportunity for counterplay. Similar to why everyone hates the stun gun. I'm sorry that isn't fun for you but it is better for the game overall and I hardly ever even play light. You really need to play a different game man, every video is just you winging about something. Go play something you actually like.
actually he found a way to complain about it, because they took so long to fix it, and there you have overwatch, cod, valorant, apex, tarkov, halo, with critical problems that have been in the game forever and they are never gonna get fixed.
@@george309 yeah the fcar didn't have that much visual recoil. A couple of the other weapons like the aka had it, but it wasn't a big deal. This guy just loves to complain.
The average player may feel a little less powerful, but the game definitely feels so much more balanced. Nukes were cool but incredibly cheap and obnoxious to play against. Not a fair experience. All the defib changes were necessary, triple medium defib chaining was so unfun to play against. RPGs and mines one shotting lights? That would just make them objectively a useless class, which it has been for most of this games lifespan. Light class feels pretty good right now, medium is still very powerful and useful support, and the mesh shield buff for heavies is a MASSIVE buff. Heavy is still so powerful. I don’t play a whole lot of ranked but I enjoyed the seed system they implemented last season. It felt fair to me. I honestly feel like the game is in an amazing state! I feel like you’re just burnt out on this game and not enjoying it as much, which is totally valid. Play other games like you’re saying, and come back if you’re intrigued by new content/changes!
Visual recoil = bad because it's not skill-based aiming but 1-shotting light with rpg and defibbing everyone with no consequence at all needs to come back because "fun"? lol what?? this season we also got buffs on the XP again, 93R, FCAR, mesh shield, cloak.. so no we don't only get nerfs.
The finals obviously isn't a perfect game, but there really just isnt a replacement for it. Im not worried about people leaving for other games like Marvel rivals because they appeal to completely different players. No other game comes to close the mix the finals has of having nice gunplay, incredible movement, great maps, awesome destruction, and in depth util usage.
Sometimes you have a point in what you are saying, even if I disagree most of the time I can see where you are coming from, but in this video you actually just drop bad take after bad take and doesn't make any sense, they don't fix visual recoil you complain, they fix visual recoil you complain, they took way more than needed and is stupid, yes, but when apex has done something like this, im still waiting on that replay sistem that valorant promised a thousand years ago (the finals didn't, they have stated that is impossible right now because of destruction server sided), when overwatch has fixed anything really they just shit themselfs each patch, call of duty? more like call of not fixing nothing ever, cs2? more like cs worse than go, are you even listening to yourself? yeah it would be good if they buff things but from all the dumb nerfs you mention the ones that actually make sense, the rpg was more than needed, is fun to use not fun to be used on, even if you are not a light you cant have a gadget that is just an instant -150hp with out any skill required whatsoever, the defib nerf was also super nessesary, it was horrible to have fights of 10 damn minutes where everyone keept reviving and healing each other, you killed the damn heavy? well you didnt, he is alive, with his shield up while being cured so youre efforts didn't matter. You talk about the dumb nerfs that don't really affect the gameplay (zipline, jumpad) but don't talk about the buffs to the 93r or the ks-23 buff or the r357 buff, you dont talk of all the great aditions of the new seasons like the clubs, jukebox, new creative and impactfull gadgets and the new map, I agree the shotgun isn't the best, but the shak? if you didn't knew it looses damage with distance you are suposed to use it close and it shreds its pretty damn strong, you keep saying that the rank sistem is horrible because you take 45 minutes in getting a win and 15 minutes just to loose all youre progress but you are wrong, how much you loose depends on your seeding and in what place you ended up on, you loose last place on the first match, yes the you loose a ton of points, but if you ended up 3th in the first match or 4th in the second one youre loses get reduced by a lot, and if you finish 3rd on the second match you win points so no you dont loose all you're progress so easily, one thing is constructive criticism where you acknowledge the good and the bad and then try to give advice or point out what is wrong, but at this point you are just being a hater, pointing out everything wrong with the game with out even talking of the good or actually giving praice to them fixing something like visual recoil, dont go arround giving lame excuses of why you dont play the game, you dont like it anymore, and thats fine, but dont do a video if you are just going to talk bulshit for 19 minutes, do content on other game.
We finally got to the point were all the guns feel good, took a whole year, but Im glad it happened. The cloak buff is just annoying unfortunately, hope it goes back to season 4 cloak. The c4 changes, rpg, and mine changes were 100% needed, took so much of the annoying/cheesy intant death out of the gameplay, feels 10x more balanced from season one.
I agree with most of what you said except one shotting lights, instant defibs and free kill stuns. Those were shit mechanics that nobody liked. Also i think adding more LTMs would greatly help the finals out since you don't really have anything to do other than World tour and ranked i guess
Yeah lights need to be more viable I’ve seen probably two lights go crazy out of my 130 hours last season but the game has a lot of hackers so it’s not saying much
No camera shake = weak feeling guns. The shake is minimal, if that fucks up your aim its a skill issue. Even cs/valorant, (games where most of the skill is in the recoil and aim) there is shake.
Why they nerf the things they do is because while things seem ok in a vacuum, the problems start cropping up by people stacking them. Yes two mines are fun an cool. But when you have 3 mediums with 16 mines on the fields... it creates issues. Or 3 heavies who can teamwipe anyone from range with 3 RPGs. etc. I personally think that if we went to unique gadget restriction per team, that could be interesting if those items were returned to their former glory. It'd might even bring a huge level of strategy if only one person can have any certain gadget, Like you could finally play a medium as a really support with instant defib if you were the only one.
bro just play cod at this point this game is not for you I like this game just because it's hard to kill and get killed this is a strategy game, one death may lead you to loss the game now imagine your whole team getting one shot by an "rpg"
"Talking about season 5's issues" and "I haven't even tried the new map. I haven't played a single game of this yet" in the same video doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:48 just an personal opinion, thats wat make the finals unique for me now. The recoil/camera shake is different than other game, it just look more less stiff
I don't know if you tried the triple barrel shotgun ingame yet, if you try it in the practice range the afterburn doesn't work. It does 2 tap mediums and 3 tap heavy's.
Holy smokes dude the nitpicking is insane. You finally got what you and many others were asking for, which I'd say I have been enjoying (including many others), and you are STILL not content? At what point is it asking for reasonable QoL things and understandable buffs/nerfs, and just wanting a clone of other games? Furthermore some of changes you are complaining about make the game horrible to enjoy from both casual and competitive. Nukes, RPG 1 shots, Mines being used as basically on demand grenades with no planning. This entire video, and some of the others I've seen have been nothing but hate boning on The Finals. It is ok the critique things you may not enjoy, but most of the things brought up are disagreed upon by most or go against the idea the game was built upon.
So you liked one shoting people. But guess what, and maybe you never considered this, for every person who enjoys one shoting there is the receiver who is NOT having fun anymore, and your failure to see this demonstrates an ignorance I cannot agree with. I and many other people enjoy the finals because it offers more fun and lenience to new players than other shooters with faster TTKs. If you don't like that, that's fine. But why don't you go play THOSE games instead of bringing all your doom and gloom onto us who are still having fun?
I think there’s a balance right, I agree some things should be made more fun, like for example the annoying part of the medium shotgun was its reload animation and how u can only cancel it with melee sometimes but it’s dmg was insane. Why not make the gun funner to use while also nerfing its annoying points. Also the new medium shotgun feels mid af, they need to start adding stuff atleast on the safe side of strong. Rather than introducing a weapon or gadget that’s weak and slightly buffing it over the course of 6-9 months. I’d much rather certain things be slightly to strong than too weak. I certainly don’t agree with buffing rpg dmg unless they nerf the tanks hp but they could certainly made certain gadgets stronger to balance out the kits. I’d much prefer rpgs maybe be a add a slow or disorientate and slightly quicker cd as long as the tanks had 300/325 hp same with mediums I feel like their health should be 225 hp and then buff their utility and mobility to make the game less of a sustain fest and more impactful abilities.
I’d like to see the game with/without camera shake but not sure what level of impact it would have. I don’t think instant defibs were good for the game. 1-shot RPG isn’t fun. I have to say I wish they would’ve allowed nukes to remain and instead found a way to balance it. I think we should still just have our 2 explosive mines and not have to wait for one to charge, so much utility to destroy mines is available.
Killing lights in 1 shot was ok to you?? Having full health and instantly spawning up after being defibbed was ok to you?? Jesus you're actually a lost cause
The visual recoil change removal just killed this game for console players. The visual recoil was honestly not that bad, it was something you could overcome with practice and skill. The visual recoil was the only thing somewhat leveling the playing field between PC and console, however now we’re getting beamed from 100+ meters away by PC players. It’s almost unplayable now
Also, the visual recoil is what made the guns feel punchy and unique. The gunplay had a unique flavor to it, but now The Finals gun play is a lot more like every other generic shooter
Maybe it took a year for the devs to do this because the visual recoil was an artistic choice fundamental to the feel of the game. It’s not a trivial thing to change
basically all the players who wanted these things nerfed to the ground stop playing the game because everything is weak as hell and boring as hell now I remember when the defibrillators revived you right away made the gameplay faster and more enjoyable
You are beyond obnoxious, they have made so many positive changes for the game (although not perfect) but you're still finding new things to complain about every day, seriously go play something you enjoy cause I've been watching you since S1 and it's nothing but negativity
clearly when things are more powerful there are more fun look at Marvel Rivals for example everything is extremely powerful and fun as hell this game used to have that now everything is weak as hell and boring.
I appreciate your content a lot you point out the truth and you get a lot of hate for that, that means you're doing the right thing people will always be afraid of change even if it's for the better for the game
If we're talking "fresh" The Finals is more "fresh" than Marvel Rivals and Delta Force combined since both appeal to the Overwatch or Battlefield audience Not hating on those games, just use better wording
@@lochnesserl8654 The game is so fresh that 90% of its player base is gone, and the developers are even fresher, it only took them a year to change the visual recoil. :D
I had over 150 hours of play last season and never once died around a corner. Also, I don't think you factor for the fact all the one shots were not fun to play against, and those one shot were not skill expressive. Just pulling out an RPG and throwing it in the general direction of a light is not skill expressive. I would be down if they increased Headshot multipliers across the board, but rewarding players with free kills is not the way. Most of my friends quit the game to go back to CS in S2, because of all the Nuke's and shit.
Never once died around a corner lol dude you’re lying
Yeah this guy is exaggerating hard af. Getting killed around corners is a LOT more subtle and it's really only by a few cm difference. In reality, he's dying cause he got caught. He's definitely not dying goddamn 5 meters behind cover lmao
@@Mr-R.R. it definitely happens but his internet is probably shit on top of that
gimme ur internet if uve never died around a corner wow
I reckon nerf mediums hp to 225 and nerf heavy’s hp to 300or 325 and buff their gadgets and them give small buffs to light aswell . And the game would be less sustainy and more fun tbh
Lol what? You went from complaining about visual recoil to complaining that you can't 1 shot lights with bs anymore? That stuff absolutely sucked, in a game with a higher ttk rpgs and mines were broken because as a light you would die with almost zero opportunity for counterplay. Similar to why everyone hates the stun gun. I'm sorry that isn't fun for you but it is better for the game overall and I hardly ever even play light. You really need to play a different game man, every video is just you winging about something. Go play something you actually like.
Right? This guy is crazy, he complains about averything 😂
Bro is literally the definition of skill issue
Yayyyyyyy now you can shut up with this visual recoil stuff 😂
No kidding! Don't worry he clearly found plenty of other stuff to cry about for the foreseeable future 😂.
actually he found a way to complain about it, because they took so long to fix it, and there you have overwatch, cod, valorant, apex, tarkov, halo, with critical problems that have been in the game forever and they are never gonna get fixed.
yeah this guys entire channel is basically just hating on the finals.
To be honest, i never felt this "Visual Recoil" thing and my Aim didn't change even one bit at least with the FCar😅😂
@@george309 yeah the fcar didn't have that much visual recoil. A couple of the other weapons like the aka had it, but it wasn't a big deal. This guy just loves to complain.
The average player may feel a little less powerful, but the game definitely feels so much more balanced.
Nukes were cool but incredibly cheap and obnoxious to play against. Not a fair experience. All the defib changes were necessary, triple medium defib chaining was so unfun to play against. RPGs and mines one shotting lights? That would just make them objectively a useless class, which it has been for most of this games lifespan. Light class feels pretty good right now, medium is still very powerful and useful support, and the mesh shield buff for heavies is a MASSIVE buff. Heavy is still so powerful.
I don’t play a whole lot of ranked but I enjoyed the seed system they implemented last season. It felt fair to me.
I honestly feel like the game is in an amazing state!
I feel like you’re just burnt out on this game and not enjoying it as much, which is totally valid. Play other games like you’re saying, and come back if you’re intrigued by new content/changes!
I don’t like the weighted down barrel I think that was the worst solution, just nerf the dmg not the fun
Visual recoil = bad because it's not skill-based aiming but 1-shotting light with rpg and defibbing everyone with no consequence at all needs to come back because "fun"? lol what?? this season we also got buffs on the XP again, 93R, FCAR, mesh shield, cloak.. so no we don't only get nerfs.
The finals obviously isn't a perfect game, but there really just isnt a replacement for it. Im not worried about people leaving for other games like Marvel rivals because they appeal to completely different players. No other game comes to close the mix the finals has of having nice gunplay, incredible movement, great maps, awesome destruction, and in depth util usage.
Sometimes you have a point in what you are saying, even if I disagree most of the time I can see where you are coming from, but in this video you actually just drop bad take after bad take and doesn't make any sense, they don't fix visual recoil you complain, they fix visual recoil you complain, they took way more than needed and is stupid, yes, but when apex has done something like this, im still waiting on that replay sistem that valorant promised a thousand years ago (the finals didn't, they have stated that is impossible right now because of destruction server sided), when overwatch has fixed anything really they just shit themselfs each patch, call of duty? more like call of not fixing nothing ever, cs2? more like cs worse than go, are you even listening to yourself? yeah it would be good if they buff things but from all the dumb nerfs you mention the ones that actually make sense, the rpg was more than needed, is fun to use not fun to be used on, even if you are not a light you cant have a gadget that is just an instant -150hp with out any skill required whatsoever, the defib nerf was also super nessesary, it was horrible to have fights of 10 damn minutes where everyone keept reviving and healing each other, you killed the damn heavy? well you didnt, he is alive, with his shield up while being cured so youre efforts didn't matter. You talk about the dumb nerfs that don't really affect the gameplay (zipline, jumpad) but don't talk about the buffs to the 93r or the ks-23 buff or the r357 buff, you dont talk of all the great aditions of the new seasons like the clubs, jukebox, new creative and impactfull gadgets and the new map, I agree the shotgun isn't the best, but the shak? if you didn't knew it looses damage with distance you are suposed to use it close and it shreds its pretty damn strong, you keep saying that the rank sistem is horrible because you take 45 minutes in getting a win and 15 minutes just to loose all youre progress but you are wrong, how much you loose depends on your seeding and in what place you ended up on, you loose last place on the first match, yes the you loose a ton of points, but if you ended up 3th in the first match or 4th in the second one youre loses get reduced by a lot, and if you finish 3rd on the second match you win points so no you dont loose all you're progress so easily, one thing is constructive criticism where you acknowledge the good and the bad and then try to give advice or point out what is wrong, but at this point you are just being a hater, pointing out everything wrong with the game with out even talking of the good or actually giving praice to them fixing something like visual recoil, dont go arround giving lame excuses of why you dont play the game, you dont like it anymore, and thats fine, but dont do a video if you are just going to talk bulshit for 19 minutes, do content on other game.
Welcome to the modern gamers brain bro he’s only running on half a brain the other side is potato.
We finally got to the point were all the guns feel good, took a whole year, but Im glad it happened. The cloak buff is just annoying unfortunately, hope it goes back to season 4 cloak. The c4 changes, rpg, and mine changes were 100% needed, took so much of the annoying/cheesy intant death out of the gameplay, feels 10x more balanced from season one.
I don't see people using cloak as much and they don't use it to its full potential unlike me or experienced players but that might change
I agree with most of what you said except one shotting lights, instant defibs and free kill stuns. Those were shit mechanics that nobody liked. Also i think adding more LTMs would greatly help the finals out since you don't really have anything to do other than World tour and ranked i guess
Yeah lights need to be more viable I’ve seen probably two lights go crazy out of my 130 hours last season but the game has a lot of hackers so it’s not saying much
No camera shake = weak feeling guns. The shake is minimal, if that fucks up your aim its a skill issue. Even cs/valorant, (games where most of the skill is in the recoil and aim) there is shake.
the shake comes from getting shot in those games, not when you are shooting
Camera shake isn't a big thing
It doesn't effect your aim ,it's just make fell the gun and be more a true to life game
Trueeee, other game camera shake isn't bad but it just stiff and the finals has different feeling
Why they nerf the things they do is because while things seem ok in a vacuum, the problems start cropping up by people stacking them. Yes two mines are fun an cool. But when you have 3 mediums with 16 mines on the fields... it creates issues. Or 3 heavies who can teamwipe anyone from range with 3 RPGs. etc.
I personally think that if we went to unique gadget restriction per team, that could be interesting if those items were returned to their former glory. It'd might even bring a huge level of strategy if only one person can have any certain gadget, Like you could finally play a medium as a really support with instant defib if you were the only one.
bro just play cod at this point this game is not for you
I like this game just because it's hard to kill and get killed
this is a strategy game, one death may lead you to loss the game
now imagine your whole team getting one shot by an "rpg"
Dudes can't be happy with anything. I think the devs balanced it well
"Talking about season 5's issues" and "I haven't even tried the new map. I haven't played a single game of this yet" in the same video doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:48 just an personal opinion, thats wat make the finals unique for me now. The recoil/camera shake is different than other game, it just look more less stiff
I don't know if you tried the triple barrel shotgun ingame yet, if you try it in the practice range the afterburn doesn't work. It does 2 tap mediums and 3 tap heavy's.
Holy smokes dude the nitpicking is insane. You finally got what you and many others were asking for, which I'd say I have been enjoying (including many others), and you are STILL not content? At what point is it asking for reasonable QoL things and understandable buffs/nerfs, and just wanting a clone of other games? Furthermore some of changes you are complaining about make the game horrible to enjoy from both casual and competitive. Nukes, RPG 1 shots, Mines being used as basically on demand grenades with no planning.
This entire video, and some of the others I've seen have been nothing but hate boning on The Finals. It is ok the critique things you may not enjoy, but most of the things brought up are disagreed upon by most or go against the idea the game was built upon.
So you liked one shoting people. But guess what, and maybe you never considered this, for every person who enjoys one shoting there is the receiver who is NOT having fun anymore, and your failure to see this demonstrates an ignorance I cannot agree with. I and many other people enjoy the finals because it offers more fun and lenience to new players than other shooters with faster TTKs. If you don't like that, that's fine. But why don't you go play THOSE games instead of bringing all your doom and gloom onto us who are still having fun?
I think there’s a balance right, I agree some things should be made more fun, like for example the annoying part of the medium shotgun was its reload animation and how u can only cancel it with melee sometimes but it’s dmg was insane. Why not make the gun funner to use while also nerfing its annoying points. Also the new medium shotgun feels mid af, they need to start adding stuff atleast on the safe side of strong. Rather than introducing a weapon or gadget that’s weak and slightly buffing it over the course of 6-9 months. I’d much rather certain things be slightly to strong than too weak. I certainly don’t agree with buffing rpg dmg unless they nerf the tanks hp but they could certainly made certain gadgets stronger to balance out the kits. I’d much prefer rpgs maybe be a add a slow or disorientate and slightly quicker cd as long as the tanks had 300/325 hp same with mediums I feel like their health should be 225 hp and then buff their utility and mobility to make the game less of a sustain fest and more impactful abilities.
5:36 maybe you can be right about buffing instead of nerfing. But ur example is very bad
I’d like to see the game with/without camera shake but not sure what level of impact it would have. I don’t think instant defibs were good for the game. 1-shot RPG isn’t fun. I have to say I wish they would’ve allowed nukes to remain and instead found a way to balance it. I think we should still just have our 2 explosive mines and not have to wait for one to charge, so much utility to destroy mines is available.
skill issue
Hit killing lights is wild, you really need to play other games because you dont know anything about balance 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Killing lights in 1 shot was ok to you?? Having full health and instantly spawning up after being defibbed was ok to you?? Jesus you're actually a lost cause
If you don't like the game then play something else. Stop complaining about everything all the time.
Only thing I think they should really add is extended clips😭
You no longer being able to get to diamond doesn’t mean the ranked system is bad, just a skill issue.
To be fair....it was hella fun one shotting Lights....not balanced but definitely fun LoL.
The visual recoil change removal just killed this game for console players. The visual recoil was honestly not that bad, it was something you could overcome with practice and skill. The visual recoil was the only thing somewhat leveling the playing field between PC and console, however now we’re getting beamed from 100+ meters away by PC players. It’s almost unplayable now
Also, the visual recoil is what made the guns feel punchy and unique. The gunplay had a unique flavor to it, but now The Finals gun play is a lot more like every other generic shooter
Maybe it took a year for the devs to do this because the visual recoil was an artistic choice fundamental to the feel of the game. It’s not a trivial thing to change
No man I’m a console player and I destroy pc players u just need to practice
Can’t believe he’s still complaining. You’re just a hater man. You just lost a sub
Right? He is a cry baby haahhaahhaahhahah😂
This guy just won't stop complaining omfg- unsubbed
Same
well they do aim for slower ttk
basically all the players who wanted these things nerfed to the ground stop playing the game because everything is weak as hell and boring as hell now I remember when the defibrillators revived you right away made the gameplay faster and more enjoyable
You are beyond obnoxious, they have made so many positive changes for the game (although not perfect) but you're still finding new things to complain about every day, seriously go play something you enjoy cause I've been watching you since S1 and it's nothing but negativity
clearly when things are more powerful there are more fun look at Marvel Rivals for example everything is extremely powerful and fun as hell this game used to have that now everything is weak as hell and boring.
Yes, Spiderman is so fun, no more stupid lights and begging devs to buff the heavy grenade launcher.
I appreciate your content a lot you point out the truth and you get a lot of hate for that, that means you're doing the right thing people will always be afraid of change even if it's for the better for the game
Bad take after bad take is apparently "the truth"
Game is trash, I’ll be glad when it fully dies
This game boring as hell, man Marvel Rivals is so fresh and Delta Force is crazy, why would you waste your time playing this trash?
Not trash, just its not your type of game
@@Ramon_Nagree, the finals also fresh with many unique thing and possibility scenario imo
No gyro support.
And it's a fun game
If we're talking "fresh" The Finals is more "fresh" than Marvel Rivals and Delta Force combined since both appeal to the Overwatch or Battlefield audience
Not hating on those games, just use better wording
@@lochnesserl8654 The game is so fresh that 90% of its player base is gone, and the developers are even fresher, it only took them a year to change the visual recoil.
:D