Honestly, It'd arguably be worth it for $79. I'm all for paying a bit more just to get something higher quality, but there's no world where I could understand spending a comparable amount of money or more on a cable as you would your actual IEMs. I get it's mostly aesthetics and comfort, but holy shit, some of these wires are several grand each. It's a cable; these prices are hospital levels of overpriced.
@@Avruthlelbh as some other commenter here said: Cables are just Jewelery after a certain Pricepoint. And i believe thats true except that the material cost of most 799€ Jewellery is substancially higher than the material cost of these cables... I could be wrong tho.
@@selbendersiinge69 You're not wrong in saying that. I just find no justification in spending that kind of money on anything for looks. Even my wedding ring is less than $500 and I'm extremely happy with the quality and appearance.
The cables are jewelry, luxury items. No problem with that but as always, don't try to tune your iems with a cable, that will lead to wasting money where it is not needed.
Please do note that for the Cadmus/Ares line, termination swapper (termX) is not included by default and costs $80 extra as an additional option. It does come with conX (mmcx, 2-pin). you can send your cable to effect audio for a retrofit service if you want to add termX later but it is very expensive (near $170 according to authorize effect audio dealer in my country). I did not do a proper research when I purchased my cadmus originally, thinking termX is included by default. Don't be like me.
Used to be a fan of EA cables, but here are some cons I've personally experienced that make me not favor their cables anymore. 1) The 0.78mm connector can loosen your IEM's socket (mentioned to me by a local IEM maker and happened to my MEST mk2) 2) The cables I had stiffened over time (Eros S and Ares S, not so much Cadmus) 3) Generally not great with microphonics. 4) The metal sleeve on the audio jack for the lower end models can come loose (happened to my Ares S and Eros S). 5) Their 8W models use the same chin slider as the 4W model, despite being thicker, so it's very hard to adjust on the 8W model. 6) I personally found ConX to be a lot less useful than I expected, since I prefer having a dedicated cable for each IEM I have instead of using one cable for multiple sets. 7) TermX, which I find more useful then ConX, is a costly upgrade. One pro for me though, is that I found them easy to buy/sell in my local 2nd hand market.
@@rickelijah4270 I dunno if I would recommend them but my favorite cable atm is from GUcraftsman, I have their 6N silver cable. That said, I only have 1 cable from them so I don't know their overall quality. I prefer the thinner wires and tighter braid on the cable.
@@rickelijah4270 If you ask me I would recommend Kinera cables, specifically Leyding. I've been using it for more than a year now and had a great run with it, its beautiful, its not stiff, does not have microphonics and has interchangable terminations which I used since I have 3.5 and 2.5 devices. At the price of 75 ish dollars I think its much more worth it than EA cables which are like 2-3 times more expensive for their cheapest model There is aneven cheaper option with Kinera, some blue/silver cable for 40 bucks but that color would be a mismatch with my iem so I opted for leyding
I have to ask: What is it about these cables that makes them worth being this expensive? I never thought cables would value above $50, much less hundreds.
@@wana.me003 I get that people want to add style to their IEMs, but I was wondering if cables can make that much of a difference in signal quality or if it's mostly to flex.
does a $20 casio tell time better than a $20,000 rolex? yes, if you don't wind the rolex. will a corolla get you from point a to point b as well as a phantom will? yup. if you need shiny $1000 iem cables to show off your $99 iems, go for it. gucci, prada, ralph lauren, lv, are for poor people that want to look rich. hard pass.
Still consider them snake oil, cannot accept them costing same as Mid range IEMs. I see there is a craftsmanship in there but that is relative to customer. I don't find it as art rather bad purchase decision.
The code24 is a perfect example of form over function - Its unwieldy, supremely uncomfortable, and painful to use. With that out of the way it is beautiful to look at and performs well that is if I can keep my IEMs with this in my ears. The cable is heavy and I cant keep my 64 Audio Volur in my ears. Even if I manage to do so within half an hour it becomes painful to use. The cable is too rigid around the ears. Another challenge that I faced was that I couldnt seat this cable fully on the Astell&Kern SP3000T with the case on as the termination is to wide and gets obstructed by the leather case, I had to remove the case. I also purchased an Effect Audio Eros S cable, which has no such issues, is beautiful to look at and performs as well as this at one third the cost.
Can't justify them charging so much yet using the same materials other companies use. They just make their cable look fancy and well built but I'd rather buy 10 cheap cables that look crap then one of these and risk it breaking just the same. Seriously how can you charge $500 for a cable that literally has the same wiring as a $80 stock cable?
I'm convinced that Timmy feels that there are differences in sound, but he will never admit it otherwise it will go in all directions. I've try the Ares S, clearly for me it has nothing more special than cable for Kinera etc.. I have a friend who has had an Effect Audio for a few years, and the cables have oxidized... So You can have fun with cables, you can spend some money on it but clearly Effect Audio is too expensive In any case, it smells a bit like a sponsored video, and I don't think he put more than $300, $500 or almost $800 into these cables.
Nope, a basic ofc cable is all that you need. This are aesthetic and much comfort cable than the original of the iems, if you are good with your stock cable you don't need to spend money
Let's be honest, the price is way too much to justify its interchangeable connection system solely for convenience and I think timmy won't use them either, if he would have to pay for these with his own money.
nice video, sorta, you need to be high (like stratosphere high) to burn 800-1000 dollars on iem cables. trying to stay within the 200-250 range for iems, total, including the kitten caboodle. perhaps 500-600 for a really good endgame set. not a grand on shitty dental floss connections. fr man, what are you thinking?
Surprised no comments on changes in the sound? Is that to avoid cable controversy? Personally I go for quality sound at affordable prices as much as possible. The connector flexibility on these are a cool feature.
I would not call myself an expert audiophile, but I have been buying and listening to hi-fi since 1968. I would say that any decent, moderately priced, copper cable is 95 to 98% as good as any "high-end" cable.
Of course they affect the sound. I have TOTL IEMs Faftreq Maestro SE and Thieaudio Monarch MKII. I have also 5 different cables in my collection ranging in price from 100$ to 1000$. All sound different on both IEMs. And the best sounding cable costs 600$, much better that 1000$ one. You'll not hear difference in mid-fi IEMs. And it would be stupid to buy cables, that cost more than your IEMs.
Anyone has a cable recommendation for 3.5 to dual 3.5. I bought some cheap one and it sounds like ass i thought i was going crazy but then tested back to back and for sure it messed with the bass or something started sounding muddy. Using hifiman he400se the stock cable was the thick black one with the 90deg end. The left ear plug just after the cable “relief” feels like its about to snap from the inside. I have no clue about these cables didnt know itd actually affect the sound that much. Using a ok pair of iems
XINHS. Beautiful, customizable cables for whatever termination you need. The seller responds quickly to requests and all of their cables are high quality and affordable. EA cables are too overpriced IMO.
Fusion 1 will be the cable I would get when I managed to get enough savings for the Elysian Annihilator for the aesthetics and to just waste my money 😂.
Gorgeous cables. But I'd never spend that much. I remember having a Ares cable. But only lasted me a year. A much cheaper cable from Ali Express which I felt was nicer, more durable and comfortable cost me half the price and lasted twice as long. Anymore than $200 USD is too much. $400, $600 and up. I'd rather put that money for an amazing iem. Cables make a minimal difference in sound if anything.... Eartips and iems ultimately make the difference in sound. A cable? You could spend $5000 or more. To me, sounds as good as a $100 cable
Effect audio code 24c is not a good cable. Mine stopped working after a few weeks. For $500 this cable should work even during nuclear winter… Now I gotta pay $140 to ship it back to Singapore to have it fixed. I was so annoyed that I just chucked them. 🤬🤬🤬
Awesome video 😊 would love zs cadmus but I’d have to save a lot of lunch money to get it lol…anyway thanks for all your hard work bring us your content 😊
Very Overpriced on top of that most of these cables are very thick and very heavy plus they also have microphonics what you want in an iem cable first and foremost is thin, light and very soft cable and usually best iems cables for comfort and minimum microphonics are 8 and 16 Core soft cables and swappable terminations don't mean much when you can literally buy over 10 cables for the price of one effect audio
everyone here including Timmy is trying hard to look civil & educated by not talking about the changes the cables make to the transient response and overall presentation of an IEM (not tonal changes!). it's so sadge
To all cable deniers here. Get Effect Audio's pure copper monster Code 23 and then tell me that it doesn't drastically changes the sound of your IEMs. Sub bass extension is so strong, that you can feel it in your crotch lol. But yeah, its chunky and has awful ergonomics. I hate/love this cable.
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I think the Ares S is $179 not $79... Otherwise great video.
Honestly, It'd arguably be worth it for $79. I'm all for paying a bit more just to get something higher quality, but there's no world where I could understand spending a comparable amount of money or more on a cable as you would your actual IEMs.
I get it's mostly aesthetics and comfort, but holy shit, some of these wires are several grand each. It's a cable; these prices are hospital levels of overpriced.
@@Avruthlelbh as some other commenter here said: Cables are just Jewelery after a certain Pricepoint.
And i believe thats true except that the material cost of most 799€ Jewellery is substancially higher than the material cost of these cables... I could be wrong tho.
@@selbendersiinge69 You're not wrong in saying that. I just find no justification in spending that kind of money on anything for looks. Even my wedding ring is less than $500 and I'm extremely happy with the quality and appearance.
@@Avruthlelbh exactly
The cables are jewelry, luxury items. No problem with that but as always, don't try to tune your iems with a cable, that will lead to wasting money where it is not needed.
"Oh that's a really nice looking cable. Beautiful colour". *Proceeds to look it up*. "$799?!?!!!!" 😵😵
Please do note that for the Cadmus/Ares line, termination swapper (termX) is not included by default and costs $80 extra as an additional option. It does come with conX (mmcx, 2-pin). you can send your cable to effect audio for a retrofit service if you want to add termX later but it is very expensive (near $170 according to authorize effect audio dealer in my country).
I did not do a proper research when I purchased my cadmus originally, thinking termX is included by default. Don't be like me.
Used to be a fan of EA cables, but here are some cons I've personally experienced that make me not favor their cables anymore.
1) The 0.78mm connector can loosen your IEM's socket (mentioned to me by a local IEM maker and happened to my MEST mk2)
2) The cables I had stiffened over time (Eros S and Ares S, not so much Cadmus)
3) Generally not great with microphonics.
4) The metal sleeve on the audio jack for the lower end models can come loose (happened to my Ares S and Eros S).
5) Their 8W models use the same chin slider as the 4W model, despite being thicker, so it's very hard to adjust on the 8W model.
6) I personally found ConX to be a lot less useful than I expected, since I prefer having a dedicated cable for each IEM I have instead of using one cable for multiple sets.
7) TermX, which I find more useful then ConX, is a costly upgrade.
One pro for me though, is that I found them easy to buy/sell in my local 2nd hand market.
Which cabels would you then recommend others?
The ConX MMCX connector apparently fits both standard MMCX as well as Senheisser's recessed MMCX, which if true would suit me well.
@@TheRealPotoroo It does, I've used ConX with my IE600.
@@rickelijah4270 I dunno if I would recommend them but my favorite cable atm is from GUcraftsman, I have their 6N silver cable. That said, I only have 1 cable from them so I don't know their overall quality. I prefer the thinner wires and tighter braid on the cable.
@@rickelijah4270 If you ask me I would recommend Kinera cables, specifically Leyding. I've been using it for more than a year now and had a great run with it, its beautiful, its not stiff, does not have microphonics and has interchangable terminations which I used since I have 3.5 and 2.5 devices. At the price of 75 ish dollars I think its much more worth it than EA cables which are like 2-3 times more expensive for their cheapest model
There is aneven cheaper option with Kinera, some blue/silver cable for 40 bucks but that color would be a mismatch with my iem so I opted for leyding
I have to ask: What is it about these cables that makes them worth being this expensive? I never thought cables would value above $50, much less hundreds.
Yeah, I don't think they are worth it. I like that they have multiple terminations. There are people with the money though hence this expensive.
@@wana.me003 I get that people want to add style to their IEMs, but I was wondering if cables can make that much of a difference in signal quality or if it's mostly to flex.
does a $20 casio tell time better than a $20,000 rolex? yes, if you don't wind the rolex. will a corolla get you from point a to point b as well as a phantom will? yup. if you need shiny $1000 iem cables to show off your $99 iems, go for it. gucci, prada, ralph lauren, lv, are for poor people that want to look rich. hard pass.
They Look shiny and you feel rich
yes your right thats lot of BS cabels with 1000$ pshhhh fkin waste of money
Way way overpriced
"It's alright." Not something you want to hear about an $800 cable... Just sayin'.
Buying cables is like buying shoelaces for the shoes you bought.
Way too expensive for a cable omg
Still consider them snake oil, cannot accept them costing same as Mid range IEMs.
I see there is a craftsmanship in there but that is relative to customer.
I don't find it as art rather bad purchase decision.
I have a topping 50 stack, why I have to spend 1000 euros for just a cable when I can upgrade headphones or the amplifier?
You haven't reached audiophile Nirvana unless you buy a cable 5 times costly of your IEM.
This is proof all of it is tinged with snakeoil, no one can say it isnt
Overpriced cables. Don't waste your money.
The code24 is a perfect example of form over function - Its unwieldy, supremely uncomfortable, and painful to use. With that out of the way it is beautiful to look at and performs well that is if I can keep my IEMs with this in my ears. The cable is heavy and I cant keep my 64 Audio Volur in my ears. Even if I manage to do so within half an hour it becomes painful to use. The cable is too rigid around the ears. Another challenge that I faced was that I couldnt seat this cable fully on the Astell&Kern SP3000T with the case on as the termination is to wide and gets obstructed by the leather case, I had to remove the case. I also purchased an Effect Audio Eros S cable, which has no such issues, is beautiful to look at and performs as well as this at one third the cost.
Can't justify them charging so much yet using the same materials other companies use. They just make their cable look fancy and well built but I'd rather buy 10 cheap cables that look crap then one of these and risk it breaking just the same. Seriously how can you charge $500 for a cable that literally has the same wiring as a $80 stock cable?
But which one makes my iem sound warm and has a wide Soundstage?
(Kidding)
my fav is the Effect Audio x Elysian Gaea collaboration IEM cable. But you can't buy separately, only comes with the IEM. It looks stunning
U rich
These cables cost more than my car
So, an aesthetics only. No sound differences?
I'm convinced that Timmy feels that there are differences in sound, but he will never admit it otherwise it will go in all directions.
I've try the Ares S, clearly for me it has nothing more special than cable for Kinera etc..
I have a friend who has had an Effect Audio for a few years, and the cables have oxidized...
So You can have fun with cables, you can spend some money on it but clearly Effect Audio is too expensive
In any case, it smells a bit like a sponsored video, and I don't think he put more than $300, $500 or almost $800 into these cables.
Nope, a basic ofc cable is all that you need. This are aesthetic and much comfort cable than the original of the iems, if you are good with your stock cable you don't need to spend money
The Ares S is NOT US$79, it's US$179.
Let's be honest, the price is way too much to justify its interchangeable connection system solely for convenience and I think timmy won't use them either, if he would have to pay for these with his own money.
These cables are definitely jewelry, some of them are even more expensive than my xenns top iems.
Nice... but i'll keep getting mine from Openheart
nice video, sorta, you need to be high (like stratosphere high) to burn 800-1000 dollars on iem cables. trying to stay within the 200-250 range for iems, total, including the kitten caboodle. perhaps 500-600 for a really good endgame set. not a grand on shitty dental floss connections. fr man, what are you thinking?
Move the cables around a bit on camera to better show off the stiffness of them
Surprised no comments on changes in the sound?
Is that to avoid cable controversy?
Personally I go for quality sound at affordable prices as much as possible.
The connector flexibility on these are a cool feature.
Do they make cable for CCA PLA 13 IEM. I am Looking for a spare cable for my CCA PLA 13. Plese Help !!!
imho buying 180-infinity $ cable for 65 buck iem is not worth it in the slightest, there are plenty of cheaper cable options
They cost more than any iem I can afford. Money down the drain nope
I would not call myself an expert audiophile, but I have been buying and listening to hi-fi since 1968. I would say that any decent, moderately priced, copper cable is 95 to 98% as good as any "high-end" cable.
I keep hearing people say that "expensive" cable should be used only with expensive iem .. is that true ?
Of course not. Cable do nothing to the sound. It's just the looks and bragging rights.
Of course they affect the sound. I have TOTL IEMs Faftreq Maestro SE and Thieaudio Monarch MKII. I have also 5 different cables in my collection ranging in price from 100$ to 1000$. All sound different on both IEMs. And the best sounding cable costs 600$, much better that 1000$ one. You'll not hear difference in mid-fi IEMs. And it would be stupid to buy cables, that cost more than your IEMs.
Anyone has a cable recommendation for 3.5 to dual 3.5. I bought some cheap one and it sounds like ass i thought i was going crazy but then tested back to back and for sure it messed with the bass or something started sounding muddy. Using hifiman he400se the stock cable was the thick black one with the 90deg end. The left ear plug just after the cable “relief” feels like its about to snap from the inside. I have no clue about these cables didnt know itd actually affect the sound that much. Using a ok pair of iems
XINHS. Beautiful, customizable cables for whatever termination you need. The seller responds quickly to requests and all of their cables are high quality and affordable. EA cables are too overpriced IMO.
+5 Soundstage
I bet he didnt dare to say there change in sound because code 24 is the only cable i realise there is significant sound change.
Recommend me cable with mic under 50$ please
Kinera Gamr with boom mic
@@moonabhinav over budget here bro
@@wahyuriders where you from near my place the thing cost just 35$ equivalent.
If not look for moondrops mic cables they don't have boom mic but they will be fine for general calling and gaming. Probably cost arround 20$
Fusion 1 will be the cable I would get when I managed to get enough savings for the Elysian Annihilator for the aesthetics and to just waste my money 😂.
Gorgeous cables. But I'd never spend that much. I remember having a Ares cable. But only lasted me a year. A much cheaper cable from Ali Express which I felt was nicer, more durable and comfortable cost me half the price and lasted twice as long. Anymore than $200 USD is too much. $400, $600 and up. I'd rather put that money for an amazing iem. Cables make a minimal difference in sound if anything.... Eartips and iems ultimately make the difference in sound. A cable? You could spend $5000 or more. To me, sounds as good as a $100 cable
Hey hy im waiting for outro song flac version please
An infomercial
Outro song title, please?
fuwa fuwa by Timmy Vangtan
@@mrKcinima Thank you
Timmy casually mentioninig he gets some lol
3:51 it is a chin slider, Timmy
was the orlog in another video?
there is no way their cheapest cable is 180..
Ok this feels like a plain advertisement 😢
I have always valued your reviews but this just felt like an advertisement. Your credibility slipped a notch.
This is an AD for sure
Effect audio code 24c is not a good cable. Mine stopped working after a few weeks. For $500 this cable should work even during nuclear winter…
Now I gotta pay $140 to ship it back to Singapore to have it fixed. I was so annoyed that I just chucked them. 🤬🤬🤬
but royal blue my fav colour :( I heard it was stiff but I wanted to get code 24 so badly
I want those but man I gotta save up before I buy those well if I ever afford one, I'm more likely to grab a hype 10 or monarch before those lol
Try eletech next. Actually, since you are based in Japan, go for Wagnus.
These cables are not an option for me. I need cables with a microphone.
Ligma audio cables>
Awesome video 😊 would love zs cadmus but I’d have to save a lot of lunch money to get it lol…anyway thanks for all your hard work bring us your content 😊
pls review the Ziigaat nuo.
To rich for my blood! Always great reviews, Thanks!
Deffect audio? hah
Audiophiles can be "milked" sooooo much it's not even funny. Yes - better cables can alter the sound, no - it shouldn't cost ~1K $ 😂😂
Timmy are you going to review the Centurion 😁😁😁
Ares S and Cadmus 4W are the best options in terms of what you get for how much you spend.
Very Overpriced on top of that most of these cables are very thick and very heavy plus they also have microphonics what you want in an iem cable first and foremost is thin, light and very soft cable and usually best iems cables for comfort and minimum microphonics are 8 and 16 Core soft cables and swappable terminations don't mean much when you can literally buy over 10 cables for the price of one effect audio
defect audio lol
Their shit is so overpriced no wonder they can afford that kind of coverage.
Pretty but def NOT worth it
I can't afford this 😂
Still waiting for the FLAC file of your outro song
whats the title of the song?
@@delsin_supporterfrom_sg981 fuwa fuwa by Timmy vangtan
I asked the same since 5 months ago until today, he never answer...
man on a mission
@@delsin_supporterfrom_sg981
fuwa fuwa by Timmy Vangtan
everyone here including Timmy is trying hard to look civil & educated by not talking about the changes the cables make to the transient response and overall presentation of an IEM (not tonal changes!). it's so sadge
To all cable deniers here. Get Effect Audio's pure copper monster Code 23 and then tell me that it doesn't drastically changes the sound of your IEMs. Sub bass extension is so strong, that you can feel it in your crotch lol. But yeah, its chunky and has awful ergonomics. I hate/love this cable.
Try use it on qkz ak6 pro
pls review the Ziigaat nuo.