"That hook shouldn't've landed that's not cheatin that's just league" is the best description I've ever heard to a lollipopping Nautilus hook xD Edit: Yes I'm aware that Naut hook has two hitboxes and it's because Riot was trying to account for network delays and yaddah yaddah. It's still spaghetti code at the end of the day. xD
@@valorcallsyeah it has like a little circle at the end of it we can’t see in game but someone pulled up the hitboxes before and it looked like a pp hope this helps
I think it's the one from the first Valorant cheating video. The other ones are still up, that vid is the only one that's still down, plus he mentioned it on twitter
16:28 Translation: he was flaming his jungler, saying "why are you hitting that guy stupid". Also, "rung" is supposed to be "rừng", which is the term for junglers.
As an FYI, you can add an arbitrary stream delay to obs studio where itll hold footage in a pseudo cache for however long you want (as long as you have the ram), so likely he just had a 30 minute stream delay on and ended the stream when he was banned which immediately cuts the footage and empties the cache leaving it unseen. 20:45
Cool note 22:30 the scripts are causing her to ignore the fight and get minions. But high level Irelias do the same thing for a few reasons. First it disorients opponents on using skills shots, second it give you a health boost via life steal runes and 5 stacks on passive, lastly it keeps the passive up longer. The cheater didn’t do that for any of those reasons so his cheats were working against him there but don’t use it as a tell all.
Thanks, I was wondering if it would be an actual great tactic because irelia is one of the few champs that can afford to do that thanks to her Q, and despite the script doing it by mistake, it seemed like a win win trade
The advantage of Q'ing a bunch of minions on Irelia is that first of all your Q heals you and second Irelia's passive gives her a stacking attack speed buff when she uses abilities and on-hit magic damage at maximum stacks. Obviously the stacking doesn't matter if she's already at full stacks but the healing can completely change a fight.
@@Kaiff2 Its a setting on most chairs bro. 3:00 Its in irelia - Q settings - Q dash on minions to heal. So it automatically dashes around on killable minions mid fight to heal and trying to Q back to enemy automatically but Ezreal just ran completely different direction at the same time. But the chair hes using is very bad quality and settings are all over the place so its probably some cheap detected copy of toir. If you think this guy chairing is worth to make a video of you should see LS users. They dont get banned and playing in master+ accounts while using fog of war enemy revealers and champion bugs that humans cant use without programs. Anivia W for example. the chair pixel perfectly uses it on enemies so the enemies always glitch inside of it and cant move whether they are near structure or a minion
For a bit of context, high level irilia players will R>E>Flash>Q>E. The blades that she throws out for her stun move faster the closer she is, so they will flash and just stack all the ability's to hit all at once. That being said, anyone who plays her knows you dont waste flash for no reason on a warding Yummi lol
A quick bit of context for the 4:55 back not being interupted, within the last 0.5 seconds of a recall it can only be interupted by CC, which has been a thing for years
@@Kaiff2 Ah that's entirely fair, I wasn't sure as it's one of those things that seems to be lesser known (at least from my interactions) and wanted to help if it was the case~
Let's offset bad cheats with good cheats in single player games like they should be! Big head modes, exploding punches, super jumps/flying, heck in bannerlord 2 they recently added a full on cheat menu which turns your character into a slightly more realistic dynasty warriors character lol.
Its kinda crazy how the server does not pick up this suspicious activity coming from multiple accounts under the same location. LIKE DAMN if it cant be more obvious ip bans or something of such caliber needs to be put out
Internet cafe still big here in Vienam and many still using the managing system where every machine share the same IP (weird I know) so they probably didn't do those instantly everytime. I'm not expert in this system thing tho so take it with a grain of salt :T
@@Guillotine1123 Sharing the same IP isn't weird at all, it's how it works everywhere. If you and a familly member are connected to your internet box, each with your own computers, the IP that is seen from external servers (aka, whatever you connect to on internet, be it google or league servers) is the one of your box, not your computers. Which is also why IP-bans do not exist. You'd end up banning many people wrongfully. And "bad apples" will simply evade it.
Keep in mind that ip ban is useless. In certains countries rebooting your router can change your ip because you don't have a fixed ip address. Or simply use a vpn. Then there's the hardware ban, which sounds perfect in theory until you realize you can easily change your mac address if you know how. Or even use virtual machines if you go wider. The only good ban is a ban through anti cheat softwares. The problem is that anti cheat softwares don't look at stuff like reaction time (ie, player performances) to detect if you're cheating or not but if there's a software named cheat.exe running on your computer for example. And, well, thoses people seem banned in a matter of hours. So in the grand scheme of things, is that a big problem that they get to cheat a few games ? Yeah i'd feel bad if i were to play against such players but i'll likely stop playing against accounts that have less than a few hours after a few days of league. Unless matchmaking is broken. Oops, looks like it does.
@@ganganggangpousi3948 true. Private platforms were expensive before due to fees on entry and subscription, now when you get a Vanguard they cost a fortune and there are spoofers in a bundle as well. Unfortunately, most of "undetected" one are external which is million times worse than internal.
Got a real good script for you, takes a while to set up and adjust to your personal playstyle. So basically, you use your eyes, and then learn from your mistakes in-game
Kaif vienamese has sign for their words but most people wont use in game because they can recognize the word without it, like rung which is suppose to be rừng which is the jungler. So yeah just want to say that love your vids
recently saw a video by "pirate software" on why they do banwaves ... long story short if they do banwaves the scripters/botters dont know what gave them away and if you ban them instantly the bot/scripters will be able to find out what they did "wrong" to get caught downside of this is indeed as Kaif said might take longer before they get banned
Popup message at 9:25 is getting autofill protected for 2 games. It happens when your teammate leaves the game and you play 4v5. I do not know other instances when you would get this, but there might be.
"He took his blue smarties today." I both love this phrase, and am 1000% baffled by it. Like, I am pretty sure what I think it means, but also.... do I? But it's such a good turn of phrase, reminds me of how I say I "took my forbidden skittles."
80ms is impossible, the fastest reaction time to move the arm was 40ms (by a pro athlete) and this was done with auditory stimulus, so ~70ms with visual stimuli, adding to that the need to not just perform 1 quick movement, but rather moving your mouse accurately, processing the signals from your eyes to ensure you are indeed on-target, then moving your finger to Q and pressing it. So unless they are the best athelete the world has ever seen, who only practices his reactions every single day, this is not feasible or even really possible.
Scripts work by just holding down a button, so its the script doing it. any time you're guessing why somethings just wasted its mainly the script, the only time its fully automatic is while the 'evade: on' is under the champ. else they're just holding 'space'(use abilities and summoners to kill) 'v'(last hit or wave clear) or 'c' (last hit or wave clear, dont remember which is which.) Source: used scripts with my friends in some customs a long time ago to find out how it works and detect cheaters myself, even looked at the code and stuff. you can ask me anything i can try to answer whatever, my knowledge is from season 4 though but it appears the scripts have not changed much at all. edit: the ezreal scripting is strange as it automatically went off and he wasn't moving.
His script is probably linked to turn it off stream if the vanguard detected something. There is probably a code that bans you so if the code got activated the script would have know that the ban is coming before even that happened so he had some times to end stream.
2:40 so as a guy who has blameyuumi as his ign when yuumi gets any type of stun her w goes to a 5 second cooldown meaning even if she spammed it she couldn't return to ezreal
I was playing as senna support and before first minion wave got out i casted on my adc Q. He tried to move out of it. And yeah after a while it was obvious he was scriptung.
Hi I'm Vietnamese and the guy is likely also Vietnamese (playing in Vietnamese), his msg at 16:28 is him flaming his jungle. There's no intonations so it's a bit difficult but he said something the line of "attacking that target, why are you so stupid jungle?" idk what the first part is supposed to say but the last 3 words is calling his jungler stupid
So fun fact nautilus hook as took hit boxes when you look at it. The line in the middle is for hooking walls, while the out ring is for champs. Hense why it feels like nautilus hits every hook
I am so happy I quit all those hyper-competitive games. It's just waste of oxygen. Every second game has cheaters/scripters/smufs, you name it, it's cancer.
Well to be fair, most cheaters are in shitlo (wonder why, lol). If you can climb out of silver 99% of them disappear. Cheats just can't compete with a functional brain
@@wackantheduck6883 But that's the problem. You go higher so you get smarter people, so they usage of scripts is more nuanced. So now you have to act based on your suspicion, watch the match again, make a report..all because the League is made badly in the first place. Every single information should be stored on the server side, not client side, so scripters/cheaters don't get access to it. I am ex-plat player btw..
I think a trainer would be useful, especially for newer players. Like a light red line indicating tower range, a number on the tower indicating damage per hit, and a minion hp bar color change when an aa will execute it would all be useful in teaching game concepts without actually being a problem.
Honestly as someone who used to train people for esports i agree, an in game visual guide that can be turned on and off would be good (even being hundreds of levels in i could still even use it sometimes agents testing new Champs and what I'm capable of using them for)
He's simply using old scripts with an update loader. You can get tons of old scripts easily that'll work almost flawless but you need a loader thats undetected and updated each patch in order to run them.
After watching the video I could notice he doesn't actually have alot of experience with scripts themselves as his "Settings" for each script aren't optimized. For those of you wondering how I may know these things it's because I helped with Leaguesharp back in the day when Scripting was an actual problem. *Yes I was scum* Sorry.
What ive learn from anothe video about nat hook was that the hook is actually three straight points. The left and right ends of the hook icon are what also hits the enemy champ but also will never hit a wall, only the center can hit the wall. Sorry if my explanation was bad.
How far, are you out of the loop😅? Because it exists and they keep using it. what i know is, glen uses it for His react videos; rob for His streams, i think; Not Sure how often Kaif uses it. And they do "the Tavern" Podcast regulary. Not Sure about the other Guys.
At least according to some statistical data, the average challenger player has around 200 ms reacton speed. Mind you this is average. The best are probably around 150 ms or even 125 ms. So this random bot in bronze has a reaction better than even Faker...riiiiiiiiight.
Do they really on do the bans in waves? What is the "game terminated" popup then? Is that just if they happen to get banned during a game? I dont understand what Vanguard is for 🤣
Vanguard doesnt ban cheaters, instead it decided to fked over me and my friends because for some reason the game wont let u play because vangaurd doesnt load properly.
@@Kaiff2 for landing skillshots and just overall info, since auto dodging just makes your character dodge everything so you are loosing dmg that way and its just easier to detect for human eye. And with all the drawings of enemy skillshots you can just dodge it manually since you can see where the skill is hitting before its even used in a way.
Yes, seeing how effective Vanguard is... NGL, something that is working at level 0, runs from start up, and launches with the game, should be able to instantly detect scripts like these... It also feels like scripting became more popular since Vanguard got implemented, how does that even make sense.
1:40 if you play nautilus you will see his Q has 2 notifiers, one anchor arrow in the center which arcs out at the end, and then the outer line, the outliner line is champion grabs, the inner line is for terrain, if you hit them with the outer line you will bring you and them together, if you hit them with the inner line you will bring you and them together, if you hit the inner line on a piece of terrain it will hit the terrain not the player, but if you kinda sidestep until the center line is on the other side of the terrain you will hit them, hope this helps, that grab was entirely legit, S+ Mastery 16 Naut main
Scripts are fucking sad, scripters are even more miserable. I've been playing League for 4/5 years and im at a point where i would consider myself decent enough to peak at silver or gold, because i've been stuck at home for so long that i basically made it my daily routine to improve. Scripters are just lazy, the fact you have to pay a few bucks a month just to use a script, get to bronze or gold and then get banned just to do it all over again, tells me everything i need to know about these kinds of people. No skill, no ambitions and definitely don't want to actually play the game. I'm glad riot is at least doing SOMETHING about scripters.
Honestly a few of those cheats should be in the game. First of all, a lot of other servers have Jungle timers and, it genuinely doesn't make sense that all of them don't. Second of all, the ability to see your laners ability timers would be massively helpful in a game where typing is honestly discouraged, especially if you're trying to focus in a Ranked game. Third, the area around Irelia shown on the scripters screen is her auto attack range and, you can enable the client to show an abilities range. The way she's being played is not ground-breaking and anyone above say a Platinum level can CS very well and glide across screen. What I do think the scripter is doing is just pressing Q and not actually using the cursor to follow the minions and create a line to dash through. Which is definitely some BS because that is supposed to be a trade-off of the champion, high-skill cap high-reward.
The irony of scripts inflating people's elo until they're placed against people with better game knowledge and awareness, that compensates for the mechanical disadvantage is ironically also why certain "high skill ceiling" champions are really more of a crutch for bad players. At least for a long time when I was still playing, champions like Yauso, Lee, and Ekko, to name a few, would massively over inflate people's elos, because they are designed in a way that makes them so mechanically lopsided. As in, the champion does so much, for how little the player actually needs to input. This is most often caused by their abilities having secondary effects and passives, but no real restrictions on usability (like elise/nid/gnar/jayce transforming and having 3 sets of skills at any given time). Yeah, this can be mitigated with numerical balance to a certain degree, but in order for the champions to be competitive at a skill level which those mechanical advantages are insignificant, they have to be numerically powerful enough that they won't fall behind, but that numerical power doesn't change at the skill level which the mechanical power is substantial. Bit of a tangent, but it's why I stopped playing the game... and because they kept reworking my favorite champions to have totally different kits.
hey don't knock on the win rate, the 1 time i played rankeds i got into bronze 3 after placements, 10 games, 9 wins later i was silver 3 10 games is nothing, but being this bad even with cheats is embarrassing, but goes to show why these losers do it in the first place. it's pathetic, people back when facebook came up, or even before, were posting screenshots of their cod/cs scoreboards that they got with aimbots and wallhacks do these people not realize that there is *ZERO* participation on their part? because a lot of them actually tell themselves they were good players
unfortunately the reality of people scripting in barrel bottom low elo is that they end up playing with people who either cannot make the difference or cannot be credible in any accusations because of their low skill. When I see one of those players making stupid decision over stupid decision and yet stack up kills by going in 1v5 at every opportunity and dances around all enemy abilities. On the one hand I feel like reporting them but how can I make the difference between a scripter or a smurf who just wanted to practice his juking skills? Honestly Idk why either is allowed but that's none of my business
Flashing during Irelia ult specifically at the highest point of the backflip gives the project range buffer and less distance to travel to target making it harder to dodge.
i had a 300+ games 70%+ wr xerath in silver i tried a lot of other roles and champs thus staying in low elo i got called a scripter sooo many times... meanwhile the people calling me that have average click rate counted as
20:25 Scripters pick Xerath because if the ennemy doesn't have any kind of big movemnt buff or dash when you cast the spell, you will always hit them if you clicked right on them with your spell. Also this makes scripting on Xerath fucking obvious because no human plays like this, without even trying to predict the enemy's movements
I think the cheaters who goes on stream are a victim of another cheater whos trying to get the attention of the game devs because the devs in moba/fps games doesnt do shet on reports so they decide to spam the link for the hacks on the chat ... as you can see the devs doesnt do anything and their report is very useless until you need a legit 100-200 confirm report rather than a 1 or 2 player of report time to check.. the problem with the games is they dont have any ANTI 3rd party app at all..
They will refund ur lp for getting ur games ruined by cheaters but when someone is openly running it down even when typing both in team and all chat that they are infact running it down cuz X Y Z team diff. That's when they write shit like "Unfortunatly we dont refund lp for things like that, but keep playing our game!"
"fun" fact, the easiest way of telling if someone is scripting is partially the reaction time, but more so I would say the angle they dodge, cause they almost always do dodges at a 90 degree angle on the skillshot, even if it isn't needed (well and all the other stupid shit they do because they're bad players but shh XD) and almost no real player does that (if any)
Im gonna be honest I’m learning game sense, watching this cheater play. Their scrips showing stuff like the movement radius of characters and where they could have moved after entering a bush really scratches my brain, and helps me understand what I’m doing wrong
To flex back at you with your 180 reaction time, my final score was 165ms 😎 Tho seeing how fast I reacted and it still was between 180 and 140~ most times and the scripters "reacting" with sub 100ms NAH fam
I don't mean to sound like a "Um acktushally!" guy but at 2:40, Yummi didnt go back onto Ezreal bc she was stunned by Irelia and after Yummi has been hard cc'd, she can't reattached for 5 secs so you have an opportunity to kill her.
Kaif, irelia gets some sort of stack on her q when she kills minions which increases her damage output. So whenever an irelia kills a wave/minions while she is fighting. This increase that buff. I would just be concerned about the speed of the clear as it correlates with clicking.
So my opinion on Cheating, I think it is ok if it is a game that does not have a leaderboard(score,player ranks, etc.) so no problem if it is a game like that but when it comes to competitive games that require skill no cheating should not be allowed, ruins the concept of a competitive game.
Reason why I quit league back in season 5 is that skillshots didnt connect when they should or connected when they shouldnt, just got frustrated over it. The same bug STILL exists.
a lot of ppl scripting even after vang. Blatant auto dodges animation cancels. unatural movement. abilities even going through them cuz they used high ground and autos to disguise the dodge. Not one banned even with high WR. ive yet to receive LP
only time i would say cheats are accepted is when its a singleplayer game and thats really just if you want to get to a poit of progress cheats do generally take the fun out of it. i like feeling op but cheating on league just what would be the point of playing? you have a bit of software playing for you
A lot of times theses scripters are smurfing or on troll picks like the one I ran into in plat was orianna top and I was playing yorrick who has a very hard skill shot to dodge and the script would dodge on ones to land because every time I tried to predict if they would then wouldn’t even try almost like the script was telling them the range of it hitting
A former friend of mine I used to game with suddenly jumped up to plat 1 when he had always languished in silver to low gold for years. also suddenly got cracked AK aim in Rust out of nowhere. not sus at all -_-
The scripter is flaming his team and calling his team mates braindead/rtards. Ironic considering he needs scripts to climb otherwise he'd probably be stuck in Iron 4, and this is coming from somebody who's been down there.
man seeing people script with xerath specifically makes me so upset. I main him and usually get flamed for hovering him cuz he's a "scripter pick" and it sucks cuz I find big nuke ult funny
i was gonna say something, but i forgot. oh, and uh, i'm flat broke. can you foot the bill? it's only 100000g. just kidding. grillbz, put it on my tab.
at 22:00 ish time when irelia farms that wave that's actually normal behavior where I play. I see irelias do that all the time it's kind of obnoxious. They're pretty good players but not better than my maokai :)
16:20 in Vn to EN "That baron fight was so stupid bros wtf were yall doing?" Kaif hes speaking vn without Marks Rung is vibratetion yes With marks on the U It mean Jungle
Brah you making Thai ppl look bad. That correction was like 0.5 seconds XD I wuda missed the correction of this dude being Vietnamese if I looked away during that time.
very minor, but yuumi didn't go back to ezreal because she had been stunned when irelia engaged, if yuumi suffers hard CC, her W is put on cooldown, preventing her from attaching again.
idk anything about scripts but if you shoot your skills quickly without aiming them first, like point mouse immediately shoot, is that like.. dodgable for scripters? or is that too quick lol
Its goofy cause hes scripting on Brand, one of the most consistent non accuracy champs. like, if you're selling scripts and playing a handicap champ, the scripts probably aren't very good
22:02 thats kinda normal tbh Irelia King best Irelia word does this too and some 500LP+ Irelias do thinks like that aswell thats not "Woaaah scripting" its normal for Irelia players
i recommend upload the clips of them in a mediafire or archive site this way we can keep mocking them everytime and reuplloading in alt accounts they have the fault many of my friends no longer play the games because vanguard
bro watching you piss me off as much as the cheater. You don't even know the basic of Yummi. "Why can't he go back in" my nga he literally just got stunned.
Man, seeing how the scripting works just tells you that they have terrible strategy. It's like handicapping everyone else...but you still lose. How pathetic can you get.
i really thought that annihilating a minion wave mid fight was just a irelia thing to do for healing or something (idk i dont associate with irelia mains), but here i am witnessing THIS shit
What I realized watching these cheaters is that they are actually shit at the game, just by looking at the movements you can really tell, and the fact they they will still lose with cheats is actually insane
Kaif irelia knowledge: if irelia jumps to minions in a fight, it's scripts. Obviously he's right in this case, but that's literally irelia basic gameplay.
I'm glad that I'm better than these scripters and im ass at this game. Also, the briar script trying to stop the player running it down because of terrible decision making.
often times bans happen ~ 3-6 months after scripts have been detected too. It's so they can't get refunds, creating tension between the sellers and buyers.
time to give em the old tyler 1 IP Ban! fucking scripters lol the only time id use scripts was to learn and understand the game better on a deeper more technical scale
"That hook shouldn't've landed that's not cheatin that's just league" is the best description I've ever heard to a lollipopping Nautilus hook xD
Edit: Yes I'm aware that Naut hook has two hitboxes and it's because Riot was trying to account for network delays and yaddah yaddah. It's still spaghetti code at the end of the day. xD
tbf i only learned a few days ago myself that the inner line on his hook is for terrain and the outer line is for the rest of it. Shits just weird.
@@valorcalls Yea same, So technically his hook hitbox is massive and any part of that outer arrow can hit and count as a grab.
additionally, the anchor has a rotating eggshaped hitbox, i think to fit the rotating anchor animation better
@@apocolototh1948 Fucking what? That's a thing too?
@@valorcallsyeah it has like a little circle at the end of it we can’t see in game but someone pulled up the hitboxes before and it looked like a pp hope this helps
Happy to see the "looking at scripters" is essentially a series now.
Wild that the one from the last video is trying to take Kaif down though
I think it's the one from the first Valorant cheating video. The other ones are still up, that vid is the only one that's still down, plus he mentioned it on twitter
Well, update (late I know) but uh…they failed HORRIBLY. Kaif hit back and won.
16:28 Translation: he was flaming his jungler, saying "why are you hitting that guy stupid". Also, "rung" is supposed to be "rừng", which is the term for junglers.
i am a vietnamese i can comfrom this
As an FYI, you can add an arbitrary stream delay to obs studio where itll hold footage in a pseudo cache for however long you want (as long as you have the ram), so likely he just had a 30 minute stream delay on and ended the stream when he was banned which immediately cuts the footage and empties the cache leaving it unseen. 20:45
Yup, was going to comment the same thing.
2:36 Yummi got cc´d so her dash goes on cd for 5 sec
Came to the comments for this xD
yeah kinda concerning he saw her get stunned and then didn't know it puts her ability on cd. I mean, that's the main counter play to yuumi
I didnt know they added new champion... what this yummi champion is? Is it a cousin of Yuumi ?
I was thinking the same thing, lmao XD
So many league players dont know this i get so annoyed, like, you cant attach to people as easily
Cool note 22:30 the scripts are causing her to ignore the fight and get minions. But high level Irelias do the same thing for a few reasons. First it disorients opponents on using skills shots, second it give you a health boost via life steal runes and 5 stacks on passive, lastly it keeps the passive up longer. The cheater didn’t do that for any of those reasons so his cheats were working against him there but don’t use it as a tell all.
also q heals on kill
@@Daefin forgot that
Thanks, I was wondering if it would be an actual great tactic because irelia is one of the few champs that can afford to do that thanks to her Q, and despite the script doing it by mistake, it seemed like a win win trade
yeah but its usually done between auto attacks in order to maximise damage, heal and dodge better
13:30
"Fair play he has a little big o-"
The expectations were *SO LOW* yet the Brand managed to outdo himself and disappoint
The advantage of Q'ing a bunch of minions on Irelia is that first of all your Q heals you and second Irelia's passive gives her a stacking attack speed buff when she uses abilities and on-hit magic damage at maximum stacks. Obviously the stacking doesn't matter if she's already at full stacks but the healing can completely change a fight.
Thats fair 😁
Looka goofy as hell when this dude does it and almost loses them haha
@@Kaiff2 Yeah I q minions midfight as well and I am not scripter :C
@@zt7621 bet you are that scripter lol
@@Kaiff2 Its a setting on most chairs bro. 3:00 Its in irelia - Q settings - Q dash on minions to heal. So it automatically dashes around on killable minions mid fight to heal and trying to Q back to enemy automatically but Ezreal just ran completely different direction at the same time. But the chair hes using is very bad quality and settings are all over the place so its probably some cheap detected copy of toir. If you think this guy chairing is worth to make a video of you should see LS users. They dont get banned and playing in master+ accounts while using fog of war enemy revealers and champion bugs that humans cant use without programs. Anivia W for example. the chair pixel perfectly uses it on enemies so the enemies always glitch inside of it and cant move whether they are near structure or a minion
For a bit of context, high level irilia players will R>E>Flash>Q>E. The blades that she throws out for her stun move faster the closer she is, so they will flash and just stack all the ability's to hit all at once. That being said, anyone who plays her knows you dont waste flash for no reason on a warding Yummi lol
The stun timer thing has been equalized kinda recently.
A quick bit of context for the 4:55 back not being interupted, within the last 0.5 seconds of a recall it can only be interupted by CC, which has been a thing for years
I know, i dont like it haha
@@Kaiff2 Ah that's entirely fair, I wasn't sure as it's one of those things that seems to be lesser known (at least from my interactions) and wanted to help if it was the case~
as someone who never watched league or played it, hearing all these ingame terms were complete gibberish, the only thing i understood is "script"
Has someone who played League for years before quitting, i can confirm that not even we understand our terminology.
Same, I watch the league streams as a podcast basically and so far the only thing I know is teemo sets traps and Ben’s boys
Funny enough I understood all the terms used here
Same honestly
Yes, this
Let's offset bad cheats with good cheats in single player games like they should be! Big head modes, exploding punches, super jumps/flying, heck in bannerlord 2 they recently added a full on cheat menu which turns your character into a slightly more realistic dynasty warriors character lol.
Its kinda crazy how the server does not pick up this suspicious activity coming from multiple accounts under the same location. LIKE DAMN if it cant be more obvious ip bans or something of such caliber needs to be put out
Internet cafe still big here in Vienam and many still using the managing system where every machine share the same IP (weird I know) so they probably didn't do those instantly everytime.
I'm not expert in this system thing tho so take it with a grain of salt :T
@@Guillotine1123 Sharing the same IP isn't weird at all, it's how it works everywhere. If you and a familly member are connected to your internet box, each with your own computers, the IP that is seen from external servers (aka, whatever you connect to on internet, be it google or league servers) is the one of your box, not your computers.
Which is also why IP-bans do not exist. You'd end up banning many people wrongfully. And "bad apples" will simply evade it.
Keep in mind that ip ban is useless.
In certains countries rebooting your router can change your ip because you don't have a fixed ip address. Or simply use a vpn.
Then there's the hardware ban, which sounds perfect in theory until you realize you can easily change your mac address if you know how. Or even use virtual machines if you go wider.
The only good ban is a ban through anti cheat softwares. The problem is that anti cheat softwares don't look at stuff like reaction time (ie, player performances) to detect if you're cheating or not but if there's a software named cheat.exe running on your computer for example.
And, well, thoses people seem banned in a matter of hours. So in the grand scheme of things, is that a big problem that they get to cheat a few games ? Yeah i'd feel bad if i were to play against such players but i'll likely stop playing against accounts that have less than a few hours after a few days of league. Unless matchmaking is broken. Oops, looks like it does.
scripting will always be a thing riot games cant do anything about it, they can only make this people that make scripts richer.
@@ganganggangpousi3948 true. Private platforms were expensive before due to fees on entry and subscription, now when you get a Vanguard they cost a fortune and there are spoofers in a bundle as well. Unfortunately, most of "undetected" one are external which is million times worse than internal.
Got a real good script for you, takes a while to set up and adjust to your personal playstyle.
So basically, you use your eyes, and then learn from your mistakes in-game
Everybody: Nasus.
Kaif: Naesus
*Everyone: Susan
Really doing my boy Renekton dirty since, you know, he literally screams "NASUS WILL NOT ESCAPE ME FOREVER!" as a normal voiceline.
Naysus
The only thing I enjoy about people cheating in games is the fact that most of them are STILL LOSING 🤣🤣
I wonder if they stream alt accounts expecting to get them reported and banned while having a main scripting account that they dont show off?
Kaif vienamese has sign for their words but most people wont use in game because they can recognize the word without it, like rung which is suppose to be rừng which is the jungler.
So yeah just want to say that love your vids
as saying goes: cheater, cheater, bottom feeder.
recently saw a video by "pirate software" on why they do banwaves ... long story short if they do banwaves the scripters/botters dont know what gave them away
and if you ban them instantly the bot/scripters will be able to find out what they did "wrong" to get caught
downside of this is indeed as Kaif said might take longer before they get banned
Most scripters are dumb af and have zero knowledge about game mechanics, i doubt they can understand what they did wrong.
Popup message at 9:25 is getting autofill protected for 2 games. It happens when your teammate leaves the game and you play 4v5. I do not know other instances when you would get this, but there might be.
NAYSUS??? KAIF? WTF hahahahaha it's nass-sus brother!
Amogus has entered the chat.
i thought the guy in the top left was the cheater until like 3 minutes in then i noticed what he was saying was matching the voice xD
How long did it take to notice XD
Same here. This is my second time watching his vids so I was a bit confused.
"He took his blue smarties today."
I both love this phrase, and am 1000% baffled by it. Like, I am pretty sure what I think it means, but also.... do I?
But it's such a good turn of phrase, reminds me of how I say I "took my forbidden skittles."
My best guess he meant the dude took aderall xD
The uk had a panic many decades ago about artificial colours
People were convinced the blue dye waa making kids go crazy
It was just sugar haha
@@Kaiff2Oh I remember that. It was like artificial dye has some kind of controlled substances in it or some shit?
@@Kaiff2 in America we have the same thing but for the color red instead. Specifically the color red40
80ms is impossible, the fastest reaction time to move the arm was 40ms (by a pro athlete) and this was done with auditory stimulus, so ~70ms with visual stimuli, adding to that the need to not just perform 1 quick movement, but rather moving your mouse accurately, processing the signals from your eyes to ensure you are indeed on-target, then moving your finger to Q and pressing it. So unless they are the best athelete the world has ever seen, who only practices his reactions every single day, this is not feasible or even really possible.
I swear this is my new guilty pleasure, love to see these videos from you Kaif
Scripts work by just holding down a button, so its the script doing it. any time you're guessing why somethings just wasted its mainly the script, the only time its fully automatic is while the 'evade: on' is under the champ. else they're just holding 'space'(use abilities and summoners to kill) 'v'(last hit or wave clear) or 'c' (last hit or wave clear, dont remember which is which.)
Source: used scripts with my friends in some customs a long time ago to find out how it works and detect cheaters myself, even looked at the code and stuff.
you can ask me anything i can try to answer whatever, my knowledge is from season 4 though but it appears the scripts have not changed much at all.
edit: the ezreal scripting is strange as it automatically went off and he wasn't moving.
His script is probably linked to turn it off stream if the vanguard detected something. There is probably a code that bans you so if the code got activated the script would have know that the ban is coming before even that happened so he had some times to end stream.
2:40 so as a guy who has blameyuumi as his ign when yuumi gets any type of stun her w goes to a 5 second cooldown meaning even if she spammed it she couldn't return to ezreal
i find it worse that i was given an advertisement for purchasing accounts with set ranks in valorant while watching this
That's perfect timing lmao (Also your name is giving me life 😂)
I was playing as senna support and before first minion wave got out i casted on my adc Q. He tried to move out of it. And yeah after a while it was obvious he was scriptung.
Coding skills so bad they dodge ally healing abilities. 🙃
Hi I'm Vietnamese and the guy is likely also Vietnamese (playing in Vietnamese), his msg at 16:28 is him flaming his jungle. There's no intonations so it's a bit difficult but he said something the line of "attacking that target, why are you so stupid jungle?" idk what the first part is supposed to say but the last 3 words is calling his jungler stupid
2:30 When Yuumi is cc'd her attach goes on cooldown, that's why she coudn't go back on Ez
Im a vietnamese and not one bit surprised the scripter shilling scrip is also vietnamese. Shit like that is just so common. Any game here has those
So fun fact nautilus hook as took hit boxes when you look at it. The line in the middle is for hooking walls, while the out ring is for champs. Hense why it feels like nautilus hits every hook
I am so happy I quit all those hyper-competitive games. It's just waste of oxygen. Every second game has cheaters/scripters/smufs, you name it, it's cancer.
Well to be fair, most cheaters are in shitlo (wonder why, lol). If you can climb out of silver 99% of them disappear. Cheats just can't compete with a functional brain
@@wackantheduck6883 But that's the problem. You go higher so you get smarter people, so they usage of scripts is more nuanced. So now you have to act based on your suspicion, watch the match again, make a report..all because the League is made badly in the first place. Every single information should be stored on the server side, not client side, so scripters/cheaters don't get access to it. I am ex-plat player btw..
I think a trainer would be useful, especially for newer players. Like a light red line indicating tower range, a number on the tower indicating damage per hit, and a minion hp bar color change when an aa will execute it would all be useful in teaching game concepts without actually being a problem.
Honestly as someone who used to train people for esports i agree, an in game visual guide that can be turned on and off would be good (even being hundreds of levels in i could still even use it sometimes agents testing new Champs and what I'm capable of using them for)
He's simply using old scripts with an update loader. You can get tons of old scripts easily that'll work almost flawless but you need a loader thats undetected and updated each patch in order to run them.
After watching the video I could notice he doesn't actually have alot of experience with scripts themselves as his "Settings" for each script aren't optimized.
For those of you wondering how I may know these things it's because I helped with Leaguesharp back in the day when Scripting was an actual problem.
*Yes I was scum* Sorry.
i love watching these videos cause it not only makes me feel better, but makes me imagine how bad they are WITHOUT the cheats
5:52 NAY SUS
What ive learn from anothe video about nat hook was that the hook is actually three straight points. The left and right ends of the hook icon are what also hits the enemy champ but also will never hit a wall, only the center can hit the wall. Sorry if my explanation was bad.
This is correct. Naut q has 2 different hit boxes depending on terrain or enemy.
Quick question: what happened to the SR office? I have been out of the loop for a bit.
How far, are you out of the loop😅? Because it exists and they keep using it. what i know is, glen uses it for His react videos; rob for His streams, i think; Not Sure how often Kaif uses it. And they do "the Tavern" Podcast regulary. Not Sure about the other Guys.
I think that they only go there every now and then, I could be wrong because I'm also out of the loop.
@@Tenebris- i heard something about it being a bit progblem because of ilness, but could be also just because at that time lot of people were ill
@@poro9084 Okay then, thank you.
At least according to some statistical data, the average challenger player has around 200 ms reacton speed. Mind you this is average. The best are probably around 150 ms or even 125 ms. So this random bot in bronze has a reaction better than even Faker...riiiiiiiiight.
Vietnam mentioned. Từ nơi đồng xanh hương thơm lúa. 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Its hard to spot cheaters in League because they still die just like regular bronze or iron players
Dying while cheating will always be a classic ;)
Do they really on do the bans in waves? What is the "game terminated" popup then? Is that just if they happen to get banned during a game? I dont understand what Vanguard is for 🤣
Yeah game terminated pops up if they were ingame during a ban wave
Ban waves are better because it makes it more difficult for the cheat makers to narrow down what flaw in their program is the reason it gets detected.
Vanguard doesnt ban cheaters, instead it decided to fked over me and my friends because for some reason the game wont let u play because vangaurd doesnt load properly.
I can say 1 thing. Good scripters are not using auto dodge. So its actually kinda hard to spot a scripter just because of that.
What are they using it for? Just landing skillshots or the extra info?
@@Kaiff2 for landing skillshots and just overall info, since auto dodging just makes your character dodge everything so you are loosing dmg that way and its just easier to detect for human eye. And with all the drawings of enemy skillshots you can just dodge it manually since you can see where the skill is hitting before its even used in a way.
10:42
I mean its part of the script, but I really DO NEED something like this red range indicator for towers in my games
would love to see a counter for bad decisions, or saves from the script
Got pinged, me no hap >:c
Not pinged, me hap :)
Got pinged, me hap :)
Yes, seeing how effective Vanguard is... NGL, something that is working at level 0, runs from start up, and launches with the game, should be able to instantly detect scripts like these...
It also feels like scripting became more popular since Vanguard got implemented, how does that even make sense.
1:40 if you play nautilus you will see his Q has 2 notifiers, one anchor arrow in the center which arcs out at the end, and then the outer line, the outliner line is champion grabs, the inner line is for terrain, if you hit them with the outer line you will bring you and them together, if you hit them with the inner line you will bring you and them together, if you hit the inner line on a piece of terrain it will hit the terrain not the player, but if you kinda sidestep until the center line is on the other side of the terrain you will hit them, hope this helps, that grab was entirely legit, S+ Mastery 16 Naut main
Your honor,
League of Legends
*hammer slams* Death
@kaiffy you guys should play last year the nightmare. I think you all would have a lot of fun with it.
Scripts are fucking sad, scripters are even more miserable. I've been playing League for 4/5 years and im at a point where i would consider myself decent enough to peak at silver or gold, because i've been stuck at home for so long that i basically made it my daily routine to improve. Scripters are just lazy, the fact you have to pay a few bucks a month just to use a script, get to bronze or gold and then get banned just to do it all over again, tells me everything i need to know about these kinds of people. No skill, no ambitions and definitely don't want to actually play the game. I'm glad riot is at least doing SOMETHING about scripters.
Few bucks? more like hundreds.
Honestly a few of those cheats should be in the game.
First of all, a lot of other servers have Jungle timers and, it genuinely doesn't make sense that all of them don't.
Second of all, the ability to see your laners ability timers would be massively helpful in a game where typing is honestly discouraged, especially if you're trying to focus in a Ranked game.
Third, the area around Irelia shown on the scripters screen is her auto attack range and, you can enable the client to show an abilities range. The way she's being played is not ground-breaking and anyone above say a Platinum level can CS very well and glide across screen.
What I do think the scripter is doing is just pressing Q and not actually using the cursor to follow the minions and create a line to dash through. Which is definitely some BS because that is supposed to be a trade-off of the champion, high-skill cap high-reward.
The irony of scripts inflating people's elo until they're placed against people with better game knowledge and awareness, that compensates for the mechanical disadvantage is ironically also why certain "high skill ceiling" champions are really more of a crutch for bad players.
At least for a long time when I was still playing, champions like Yauso, Lee, and Ekko, to name a few, would massively over inflate people's elos, because they are designed in a way that makes them so mechanically lopsided. As in, the champion does so much, for how little the player actually needs to input. This is most often caused by their abilities having secondary effects and passives, but no real restrictions on usability (like elise/nid/gnar/jayce transforming and having 3 sets of skills at any given time).
Yeah, this can be mitigated with numerical balance to a certain degree, but in order for the champions to be competitive at a skill level which those mechanical advantages are insignificant, they have to be numerically powerful enough that they won't fall behind, but that numerical power doesn't change at the skill level which the mechanical power is substantial.
Bit of a tangent, but it's why I stopped playing the game... and because they kept reworking my favorite champions to have totally different kits.
hey don't knock on the win rate, the 1 time i played rankeds i got into bronze 3 after placements, 10 games, 9 wins later i was silver 3
10 games is nothing, but being this bad even with cheats is embarrassing, but goes to show why these losers do it in the first place.
it's pathetic, people back when facebook came up, or even before, were posting screenshots of their cod/cs scoreboards that they got with aimbots and wallhacks
do these people not realize that there is *ZERO* participation on their part? because a lot of them actually tell themselves they were good players
unfortunately the reality of people scripting in barrel bottom low elo is that they end up playing with people who either cannot make the difference or cannot be credible in any accusations because of their low skill.
When I see one of those players making stupid decision over stupid decision and yet stack up kills by going in 1v5 at every opportunity and dances around all enemy abilities.
On the one hand I feel like reporting them but how can I make the difference between a scripter or a smurf who just wanted to practice his juking skills? Honestly Idk why either is allowed but that's none of my business
Flashing during Irelia ult specifically at the highest point of the backflip gives the project range buffer and less distance to travel to target making it harder to dodge.
Him calling Nasus nay sus had me creasing.
i had a 300+ games 70%+ wr xerath in silver
i tried a lot of other roles and champs thus staying in low elo
i got called a scripter sooo many times... meanwhile the people calling me that have average click rate counted as
20:25 Scripters pick Xerath because if the ennemy doesn't have any kind of big movemnt buff or dash when you cast the spell, you will always hit them if you clicked right on them with your spell. Also this makes scripting on Xerath fucking obvious because no human plays like this, without even trying to predict the enemy's movements
I think the cheaters who goes on stream are a victim of another cheater whos trying to get the attention of the game devs because the devs in moba/fps games doesnt do shet on reports so they decide to spam the link for the hacks on the chat ... as you can see the devs doesnt do anything and their report is very useless until you need a legit 100-200 confirm report rather than a 1 or 2 player of report time to check.. the problem with the games is they dont have any ANTI 3rd party app at all..
Some of these would be nice to have as features, like the summoner spells next to teammate's health bars
Can you not report channels like these to the relevant streaming platform to have them taken down?
They will refund ur lp for getting ur games ruined by cheaters but when someone is openly running it down even when typing both in team and all chat that they are infact running it down cuz X Y Z team diff. That's when they write shit like "Unfortunatly we dont refund lp for things like that, but keep playing our game!"
"fun" fact, the easiest way of telling if someone is scripting is partially the reaction time, but more so I would say the angle they dodge, cause they almost always do dodges at a 90 degree angle on the skillshot, even if it isn't needed (well and all the other stupid shit they do because they're bad players but shh XD) and almost no real player does that (if any)
Im gonna be honest I’m learning game sense, watching this cheater play. Their scrips showing stuff like the movement radius of characters and where they could have moved after entering a bush really scratches my brain, and helps me understand what I’m doing wrong
To flex back at you with your 180 reaction time, my final score was 165ms 😎
Tho seeing how fast I reacted and it still was between 180 and 140~ most times and the scripters "reacting" with sub 100ms NAH fam
I don't mean to sound like a "Um acktushally!" guy but at 2:40, Yummi didnt go back onto Ezreal bc she was stunned by Irelia and after Yummi has been hard cc'd, she can't reattached for 5 secs so you have an opportunity to kill her.
Kaif, irelia gets some sort of stack on her q when she kills minions which increases her damage output. So whenever an irelia kills a wave/minions while she is fighting. This increase that buff.
I would just be concerned about the speed of the clear as it correlates with clicking.
So my opinion on Cheating, I think it is ok if it is a game that does not have a leaderboard(score,player ranks, etc.) so no problem if it is a game like that but when it comes to competitive games that require skill no cheating should not be allowed, ruins the concept of a competitive game.
Reason why I quit league back in season 5 is that skillshots didnt connect when they should or connected when they shouldnt, just got frustrated over it. The same bug STILL exists.
a lot of ppl scripting even after vang. Blatant auto dodges animation cancels. unatural movement. abilities even going through them cuz they used high ground and autos to disguise the dodge. Not one banned even with high WR. ive yet to receive LP
only time i would say cheats are accepted is when its a singleplayer game and thats really just if you want to get to a poit of progress cheats do generally take the fun out of it. i like feeling op but cheating on league just what would be the point of playing? you have a bit of software playing for you
A lot of times theses scripters are smurfing or on troll picks like the one I ran into in plat was orianna top and I was playing yorrick who has a very hard skill shot to dodge and the script would dodge on ones to land because every time I tried to predict if they would then wouldn’t even try almost like the script was telling them the range of it hitting
A former friend of mine I used to game with suddenly jumped up to plat 1 when he had always languished in silver to low gold for years.
also suddenly got cracked AK aim in Rust out of nowhere.
not sus at all -_-
The scripter is flaming his team and calling his team mates braindead/rtards. Ironic considering he needs scripts to climb otherwise he'd probably be stuck in Iron 4, and this is coming from somebody who's been down there.
man seeing people script with xerath specifically makes me so upset. I main him and usually get flamed for hovering him cuz he's a "scripter pick" and it sucks cuz I find big nuke ult funny
i was gonna say something, but i forgot.
oh, and uh, i'm flat broke.
can you foot the bill?
it's only 100000g.
just kidding.
grillbz, put it on my tab.
at 22:00 ish time when irelia farms that wave that's actually normal behavior where I play. I see irelias do that all the time it's kind of obnoxious. They're pretty good players but not better than my maokai :)
This guy's mouse movement makes me actually sick to watch. Dude is FLICKING HIS FUCKING MOUSE TO MOVE. EVERY CLICK HE FLICKS HIS MOUSE. WHY???
16:20 in Vn to EN "That baron fight was so stupid bros wtf were yall doing?"
Kaif hes speaking vn without Marks
Rung is vibratetion yes
With marks on the U
It mean Jungle
Brah you making Thai ppl look bad. That correction was like 0.5 seconds XD I wuda missed the correction of this dude being Vietnamese if I looked away during that time.
very minor, but yuumi didn't go back to ezreal because she had been stunned when irelia engaged, if yuumi suffers hard CC, her W is put on cooldown, preventing her from attaching again.
idk anything about scripts but if you shoot your skills quickly without aiming them first, like point mouse immediately shoot, is that like.. dodgable for scripters? or is that too quick lol
Its goofy cause hes scripting on Brand, one of the most consistent non accuracy champs. like, if you're selling scripts and playing a handicap champ, the scripts probably aren't very good
22:02 thats kinda normal tbh Irelia King best Irelia word does this too and some 500LP+ Irelias do thinks like that aswell thats not "Woaaah scripting" its normal for Irelia players
i recommend upload the clips of them in a mediafire or archive site this way we can keep mocking them everytime and reuplloading in alt accounts they have the fault many of my friends no longer play the games because vanguard
bro watching you piss me off as much as the cheater. You don't even know the basic of Yummi. "Why can't he go back in" my nga he literally just got stunned.
Man, seeing how the scripting works just tells you that they have terrible strategy. It's like handicapping everyone else...but you still lose. How pathetic can you get.
i cringe not because of their cheats but how they played 💀 absolute horrendous
i really thought that annihilating a minion wave mid fight was just a irelia thing to do for healing or something (idk i dont associate with irelia mains), but here i am witnessing THIS shit
What I realized watching these cheaters is that they are actually shit at the game, just by looking at the movements you can really tell, and the fact they they will still lose with cheats is actually insane
Kaif irelia knowledge: if irelia jumps to minions in a fight, it's scripts. Obviously he's right in this case, but that's literally irelia basic gameplay.
I'm glad that I'm better than these scripters and im ass at this game. Also, the briar script trying to stop the player running it down because of terrible decision making.
often times bans happen ~ 3-6 months after scripts have been detected too. It's so they can't get refunds, creating tension between the sellers and buyers.
time to give em the old tyler 1 IP Ban! fucking scripters lol the only time id use scripts was to learn and understand the game better on a deeper more technical scale