It is hard to say if lidar will stick around or if cameras will replace it in all use cases. Lidar got popular as the price fell, but then started being replaced with other sensors. Self driving cars that used lidar all failed to progress. By the time you add all the other sensors and cameras to make up for what lidar cannot detect, you no longer need lidar. Lidar getting cheaper and easier to put into a product will help it find a market.
I think Primesense had a solid state sensor a decade ago, which was integrated in the Microsoft Kinect. But this still looks very cool. I'd like a price and availability so I can buy one and try it out.
@TerragonAI presumably it would depend on an apples-to-apples comparison, for resolution, frequency, etc. but all else the same it solid-state should be lower power at the same specs.
I've always wondered the same, there has to be a limit due to interference similar to gaming conventions and wifi networks / bluetooth controller connections just dropping
we could do that in a bunch of ways already. all you need is an RGB camera and the lidar depth ....color the depth map with rgb photo. But really, we'd use AI to flesh this out like ua-cam.com/video/33Dmo8bd-UY/v-deo.html
@jagevt I mean like a 3d map that changes with time, for example in your video, cars/ birds may move through the map and gets recorded , and you can view them from another angle
@@lemon9.9 definitely get where you’re coming from. There used to be that old adage “I can do it cheap, or fast or good…pick two”. That adage isn’t necessarily broken…but we probably Need a min to consider this. In any event, your brain can look at a tree and and say “I know you’re saying that in this image …. There is a a tree.” I’m no fool. I know there is a tree there. And a quarter of a mile behind that tree , there is a school. And 800 miles away , you’ll see Niagara falls.” You and. I know there is a tree. And. We might not know it’s a school , we know there is a building 1/4 mile behind the tree. And the world in general is a geodesic. We can’t see china by line of sight. That’s where these models get interesting, or wonky ? I think Gaussian splatting is pretty perfect mathematically. But it’s not the ground truth. That’s not a thing we can know. It sounds like I’m saying nonsense. I should prob shut up, but back in the day , you’d look at your speedometer, and say “I just passed mile marker 434 on I-80 , and I’m currently going 79 miles an hour!” That report of your location and inertia are incorrect. Necessarily. You will never understand a fixed region of space without inference. Because we can’t be everywhere. .
If this is just measuring distance how is it doing the road markings? Does it have the resolution to pick out the raised paint? Or are you mixing this with camera data?
@@alex-h-dev I know, and at 0:50 you can clearly see in the video the lidar image is picking up road markings, so I was wondering how it is doing that.
I think Google Maps Street View and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2030 are going to be absolutely mind-blowing! Imagine having a 3D scan of every street in every country (that allows scanning), streamed directly from the cloud to your PC. You'll be able to explore the entire world on a virtual map in stunning detail. They could simply use the Google Street View cars to LiDAR scan and photograph everything, then merge it into 3D models with photorealistic textures.
The most important question: How much for a devboard? Is it something a hobbyist (with a full-time software dev job in an unrelated field) can afford? Are we talking new-PC priced, used-car priced, new-car priced, or luxury-car priced? Edit: It's $999! That's actually affordable! Like, Nvidia's newest top-end PC GPU (which you'll probably also want if you're going to be running realtime neural nets) is $1999!
There was a time when things that are now phone components were super expensive. In 10 years I imagine this will cost $5 shipped from Taiwan or something.
From what I understand its using a phased array. Basically, light is a wave, so they are having different parts of the sensor have the waves be delayed different amounts so they are out of phase (hence the name), and that allows them to aim the lidar beam with no moving parts.
@@filipo4114 Too expensive, They are building bipedal robots for 10-20k USD now. Not going to see those used in robots until they get under $100. Tesla is planning a 20k car turning it into a 21k car is not something I think they will do.
@@DavidFuchsNote, that one lidar $1K. But, for car you need 4pcs. So, price of car +$4K, it's +20% to car price for 4pcs small boxes. It's very very very expensive!
@@DenisTsekh-og2xv Basically unworkable on cars and robots due to cost. They would really need to use the economy of scale to get price down. Would love to buy one to do a tear down and figure out their markup. Might be able to compete with them with nothing more than a strip of led lasers and some electrically changeable variable index of refraction material.
Elon Musk is not gonna like this, lol Musk said “Anyone relying on lidar is doomed. Doomed. Expensive sensors that are unnecessary.” Most sensible engineers disagree with him.
No it's freaking army of itsy bitsy tiny time of flight sensors measuring actual distance. Not image processing like RealSense. RealSense is basically stereoscopy vision where you replace the second camera with a laser pattern that allows to calculate depth cheaper than actually a second camera.
I mean, apple's devices also had such solid state lidar so this isn't new. But compared to that trash apple uses (and pix4d in that manner) - I like spec of this beauty
If this is literally any more than $200 a sensor, it's not worth it. Just use a tof sensor and do everything else with depth through neural approximation augmenting stereo depth mapping.
Does anyone know how much food has to be produced to have enough "energy" for my daily tasks😂😂😂😂 failing most of the time? And not getting even 1 horse"power" 😮😅😊
Ill believe it when the sensor is on mouser
technicaly the mouse u use for the pc has a lidar type of technology
@@akaabbs259Mouser is eshop 😂
@@akaabbs259 mouser not mouse
@@akaabbs259 🤦♂
@@akaabbs259 He means the parts website.... AKA he'll believe it when you can actually buy it, read a data sheet and test it
If this is real, this is awesome. Didn't think we were anywhere near phased array lidar.
Apple has been doing it for years.
Look up Lumotive. They use metamaterials to shrink Lidar onto a chip.
@@testing2517you are wrong about tech thay are utilizing.
why is this awesome? because it doesnt rotate?
@bobby9568 Smaller, cheaper in long run, looks better, no rotating mechanisms so less wear and tear. Compare it to moving from HDD to SSD
Solidstate. So it will also be easier to acquire and less expensive?
Yes easier to replicate too
In 10 years, once it trickles down to us peasants.
@definitelynotthefbi725 yeah I figured as much. It's unfortunate. I don't mind a few hundred dollars sub1k but I get a vibe this things HEAVY $$
@@miestermind It's up on their site for 999 USD
in 20 years, maybe
Ayo this gonna be a game changer for everything, vr, robotics, cameras, cars, just in general everything that needs a sensor
It is hard to say if lidar will stick around or if cameras will replace it in all use cases. Lidar got popular as the price fell, but then started being replaced with other sensors. Self driving cars that used lidar all failed to progress. By the time you add all the other sensors and cameras to make up for what lidar cannot detect, you no longer need lidar.
Lidar getting cheaper and easier to put into a product will help it find a market.
Props to your market team, that was a BEAUTIFUL advertisement.
Edit: it was better on mute. Damn the music is obnoxious
I'm afraid we need Jungle
@@dimitrireinhart Robotic advertisements really only make sense with a lot of piano
@@cannonball7 I know right also violin maybe some opera singing.
This is absolutely amazing! Already imagining a airframe design around this!
yo this is insane. 75m range is wild too
I think Primesense had a solid state sensor a decade ago, which was integrated in the Microsoft Kinect. But this still looks very cool. I'd like a price and availability so I can buy one and try it out.
Primesense was not lidar, it had an infrared light that painted a grid onto the scene, which was picked up by an infrared camera
also less power consuption?
Yeah, I think so.
less than ... what ?
@@cjjuszczak "less than" rotating lidars?!?!?!?
@TerragonAI presumably it would depend on an apples-to-apples comparison, for resolution, frequency, etc. but all else the same it solid-state should be lower power at the same specs.
@@cjjuszczak yes, that's what i wanted to ask 🤗
Meanwhile Tesla "NooOOoo robots have got to see like we do, because we do!"
interferes with the camera
Is this lidar safe for everyone? People, cameras and other types of sensors currently used?
What happens when there are multiple devices in the same area?
I've always wondered the same, there has to be a limit due to interference similar to gaming conventions and wifi networks / bluetooth controller connections just dropping
People hating a innovative first gen sensor being too expensive for consumer tech is wilddd
Now it's time to build that mosquito killing "Laser" zapping device.
price will determine if I like this or not
75m de alcance es increible para un lidar de 1000 dolares, espero que sea facil de integrar con ROS2
How does this compare to the DJI solid state Lidar?
Superb 🎉🎉
Beautiful work. I really need to work in hardware, but how is a java dev gonna transition to that...
imagine a vr helmet with 2 of those converting every scene in real time into a 3d render
. my god.
Bring me the future. HOLY SHIT. SOLID STATE LIDARS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS. The future is bright.
Your iPhone has one.
@@aaryan3411then why is this a big release?
So you are saying, we can take "videos" in lidar fomrat now? Like continuous measurement of environment in 3d IN REAL TIME?
we could do that in a bunch of ways already. all you need is an RGB camera and the lidar depth ....color the depth map with rgb photo. But really, we'd use AI to flesh this out like ua-cam.com/video/33Dmo8bd-UY/v-deo.html
@jagevt I mean like a 3d map that changes with time, for example in your video, cars/ birds may move through the map and gets recorded , and you can view them from another angle
@@lemon9.9 definitely get where you’re coming from. There used to be that old adage “I can do it cheap, or fast or good…pick two”.
That adage isn’t necessarily broken…but we probably Need a min to consider this. In any event, your brain can look at a tree and and say “I know you’re saying that in this image …. There is a a tree.” I’m no fool. I know there is a tree there. And a quarter of a mile behind that tree , there is a school. And 800 miles away , you’ll see Niagara falls.”
You and. I know there is a tree. And. We might not know it’s a school , we know there is a building 1/4 mile behind the tree. And the world in general is a geodesic. We can’t see china by line of sight. That’s where these models get interesting, or wonky ?
I think Gaussian splatting is pretty perfect mathematically. But it’s not the ground truth. That’s not a thing we can know. It sounds like I’m saying nonsense. I should prob shut up, but back in the day , you’d look at your speedometer, and say “I just passed mile marker 434 on I-80 , and I’m currently going 79 miles an hour!”
That report of your location and inertia are incorrect. Necessarily. You will never understand a fixed region of space without inference. Because we can’t be everywhere. .
Pardon my ignorance, whats the difference between this and lidar sensors on the iphones?
Range, resolution, refresh rate, field of view, accuracy
@ I mean what makes this the first solid state, the one on the iphones is not solid state?
What a technology.
Factory price for Tinkerers and developers?
Doesn’t InnoViz already have this?
I wonder about the interference of several lidar systems.
Whats the BOM price forbthis? Something tells me its not cheap at all
if it's the same price of an ouster I'm gonna cry
for robots by robots 🤖
Looks sturdier than the current models in market.
Please put it in the Xiaomi 16 Pro for my 3d scans :p
If this is just measuring distance how is it doing the road markings? Does it have the resolution to pick out the raised paint? Or are you mixing this with camera data?
Finally someone who has actual questions
"road markings" are for cameras, lidars are to detect vehicles/people/etc
@@alex-h-dev I know, and at 0:50 you can clearly see in the video the lidar image is picking up road markings, so I was wondering how it is doing that.
@@MrDave34 Ah, probably because crosswalks are usually about a quarter-inch higher than the road surface (special paint is used for that)
@@alex-h-dev I hope you can see why I asked if it had the resolution to pick out the raised paint in my original question now.
Maybe the cost also increases to 10x of actual price
When Ryan Taubert is playing I'm listening! Love the song, love the ad...thoughhhh IMO they don't fit together super well
Where can I buy?
Can i spin it if i want to?
I'm surprised they went with 90 degree vertical FOV, 45 would be sufficient for over 90% of use cases I would think
I think Google Maps Street View and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2030 are going to be absolutely mind-blowing! Imagine having a 3D scan of every street in every country (that allows scanning), streamed directly from the cloud to your PC. You'll be able to explore the entire world on a virtual map in stunning detail. They could simply use the Google Street View cars to LiDAR scan and photograph everything, then merge it into 3D models with photorealistic textures.
0:29 Hmmm, how realistic is the sensor in such robots if the sensor alone costs 1000$ (as stated on the manufacturer's website)?
The most important question: How much for a devboard? Is it something a hobbyist (with a full-time software dev job in an unrelated field) can afford? Are we talking new-PC priced, used-car priced, new-car priced, or luxury-car priced?
Edit: It's $999! That's actually affordable! Like, Nvidia's newest top-end PC GPU (which you'll probably also want if you're going to be running realtime neural nets) is $1999!
didn’t see you at CES. what booth # were yall
Is this just yet another point/line projector and IR camera? Like how the Quest3 and iphone does it.
No, it actually measures distances, not calculated via image processing.
If it's actually usable and reliable it would be a awesome product.
@@DerSolinski It'd be impressive if it could time of flight many pixels at once instead of typical scan line ones.
@@leggysoft That's literally what it does, no moving parts.
There was a time when things that are now phone components were super expensive. In 10 years I imagine this will cost $5 shipped from Taiwan or something.
Real use will be quadcopters, although it is still there but limited.
flash lidar? how much?
Cool
Make it smaller and put it as the pupils of the robot.
Whow. And 75 meter range? NO moving parts make this.... extremely nice progress.
owh... so its pulsating rather than spinning? (apologize if this sounds weird, because I have no knowledge about lidar)
From what I understand its using a phased array. Basically, light is a wave, so they are having different parts of the sensor have the waves be delayed different amounts so they are out of phase (hence the name), and that allows them to aim the lidar beam with no moving parts.
🔥
Apple also uses solid state lidar sensor so u are not the first one.
price?
🖤🔥
how much?
How much?
$999.00
@@filipo4114 Too expensive, They are building bipedal robots for 10-20k USD now. Not going to see those used in robots until they get under $100. Tesla is planning a 20k car turning it into a 21k car is not something I think they will do.
@@DavidFuchsNote, that one lidar $1K. But, for car you need 4pcs. So, price of car +$4K, it's +20% to car price for 4pcs small boxes. It's very very very expensive!
@@DenisTsekh-og2xv Basically unworkable on cars and robots due to cost. They would really need to use the economy of scale to get price down. Would love to buy one to do a tear down and figure out their markup. Might be able to compete with them with nothing more than a strip of led lasers and some electrically changeable variable index of refraction material.
Stock name?
this cgi was made in blender?
Why do you think specifically blender?
@logitech4873 trying to guess )
High tech with only 1080p video
Awesome, now video card. render 3d worlds and make them walkables.
we'll see
🤩🤩🤩
damn i want thtis
Will this make my roomba smarter?
i want it
Robots are getting alive 💪
Great, now to 8k thermal so cars can see through fog and rain 🤔
please check if this laser sensor will destroy human eyes
❤
Neo: Upgrades..
This digital LiDar is surreal but at times looks very serene.
'Anyone relying on lidar is doomed,' Elon Musk says
Trump is good, Musk says......
200k for 1, free shipping.
I really think the wrong music was chosen something classical or violin would have been better
Elon Musk is not gonna like this, lol
Musk said “Anyone relying on lidar is doomed. Doomed. Expensive sensors that are unnecessary.” Most sensible engineers disagree with him.
So it's an Intel RealSense without the RGB sensor?
I'm struggling to see what's new here, other than the acronym salad
No it's freaking army of itsy bitsy tiny time of flight sensors measuring actual distance.
Not image processing like RealSense.
RealSense is basically stereoscopy vision where you replace the second camera with a laser pattern that allows to calculate depth cheaper than actually a second camera.
$1000 for one unit....Wait 6 months and it will be down to realistic levels so people can adopt into real projects
Sheeesh
🐬
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Surely this is what we’ve had right in front of our faces for years. (FaceID).
similar.
No, not the one in front, but close to it-the one behind the iPhone and iPad.
@@owenjones7732 that’s LiDAR. The front uses a dot matrix projector and a flood illuminator. Not very different to LiDAR.
If you need driver development or field testing hmu :)
Not my robot don't need bearing 😂
برند در اصل مال غربستان بوده یا ترکیه .مثل اسب عربه بسازنش وقتی نسازن میگن عرب منقرض شد نه هم ماد هست هم انها .
interesting but turn the damn music down. Takes away from your product.
I want cheap LIDAR with enough accuracy to identify people. It would be amazing for home automation.
Then it looks at a window or a mirror 😂😂
what is this Cyberpunk 2077 ahh intro bruh
I mean, apple's devices also had such solid state lidar so this isn't new.
But compared to that trash apple uses (and pix4d in that manner) - I like spec of this beauty
Who would win?
- A $1000 Solid-state LIDAR sensor
or
- A single pane of glass
CGI MAKES BETTER
hahahahaha
If this is literally any more than $200 a sensor, it's not worth it. Just use a tof sensor and do everything else with depth through neural approximation augmenting stereo depth mapping.
So dumb, write better software and you can do this with two potato cams slapped on a raspberry pi
Damn this music is ass
All these Chinese tech trailers always sounds the same
Does anyone know how much food has to be produced to have enough "energy" for my daily tasks😂😂😂😂 failing most of the time? And not getting even 1 horse"power" 😮😅😊
You're about 10 years too late, dnn based monocular depth estimation is performing about equally well as lidar...
Work with real data not only CV datasets and you'll see the difference
Stock name?