The Real History in Warhammer Fantasy

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • Finding the surprising real life inspirations behind Game Workshop's Warhammer and Creative Assembly's Total War: Warhammer.

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  • @scionoftheemperor1240
    @scionoftheemperor1240 5 років тому +1750

    Sad you didn't cover the Chaos Dwarfs, they're heavily based on Mesopotamia, primarily the Babylonians & Assyrians.

    • @cadettklinge603
      @cadettklinge603 5 років тому +18

      really? can you explain why, i never saw them like any of this.

    • @laborerdna9263
      @laborerdna9263 5 років тому +206

      @@cadettklinge603 just look at their beards. Literally assyrian/sumerian nobles. Also their god, Hashut, is a giant bull. His chosen beasts are lammasu, are taken straight from sumerian myths, and greatest blessing from their god for chaos dwarves is becoming bull-centaur.

    • @cadettklinge603
      @cadettklinge603 5 років тому +27

      @@laborerdna9263 Hmmm now that you say it. Seems pretty legit.

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому +21

      Herdan khuzdul is based on semitic languages like Hebrew and Aramaic more than arabic and the dwarf names in Tolkien are almost exclusively norse. However, such characters for the chaos dwarfs like Zargon are definitely based on Akkadians. The chaos dwarfs are based on ancient mesopotamia very broadly rather than one specific civilization

    • @CommanderBohn
      @CommanderBohn 5 років тому +15

      @@cadettklinge603 It's the hats, bulls and ziggurats. Not to mention beards and noses.

  • @goodbanter4427
    @goodbanter4427 5 років тому +389

    *pans to the Chaos Wastes*
    *Metal starts playing*
    Amazing

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 3 роки тому +4

      Vikings + Reformation's era fears of Heretics + late Medieval warfare = Chaos Warriors
      Chaos mixes the heavy infintry doctrine of the Vikings with the cavalry of late Medieval Knights and the artillery.
      As Warhammer is practically what an Early Modern persons view of the world would be, the Chaos warriors are the fear that a heretical cult would form in Europe after the Protestant Reformation and possibly would reflect the views of both Catholics and Protestants to each other.

    • @Sir_Bucket
      @Sir_Bucket 3 роки тому +1

      Blood for the blood god!

  • @Sinewmire
    @Sinewmire 5 років тому +622

    Vlad von Carstein, the first and arguably greatest of the Vampire Counts married into the local nobility, taking Isabella, the daughter of the Elector Count of Sylvania as his wife.
    That family name was von Drak.
    Yeah, he's 100% Dracula.

    • @deni140492deni
      @deni140492deni 5 років тому +18

      and basically impossible to kill without magic or tyranossaurs

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому +9

      deni140492deni he’s as easy to kill as any other vampire of similar power/age. His main thing was that he was unkillable because of his ring that brought him back to life. When he lost the ring, he was finally killed

    • @holydoggo4822
      @holydoggo4822 5 років тому +4

      @@deni140492deni what about magical tyranossaurs

    • @riccardopattarin
      @riccardopattarin 5 років тому +3

      @@holydoggo4822 there is an entire book about croq dar(?) The Lizardmen Leader ,which as a part of his faction characterisation ( the last defenders), tries to purge the warhammer realm exterminating every race excepts the Lizardmen.

    • @dosran5786
      @dosran5786 5 років тому

      noooooo you sure want to rethink it for another week....

  • @brotherdeveaux5474
    @brotherdeveaux5474 6 років тому +1944

    Great video!
    I also noticed the Dark Elves traveled across the not-Atlantic Ocean, colonized not-North America and have an economy based on slavery.
    Sounds very familiar to me.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +288

      Hmm. Didn't think of that! Good point.

    • @scrubone4938
      @scrubone4938 5 років тому +336

      Dont forget they were rebels to a not Britain/Atlantis full of ppl with British accents

    • @principetnomusic
      @principetnomusic 5 років тому +160

      Naggaroth, fuck yeah!

    • @Indubidably0
      @Indubidably0 5 років тому +97

      Great. A historical ignorant that thinks slavery was unique to America.

    • @principetnomusic
      @principetnomusic 5 років тому +251

      @@Indubidably0 Slavery is not unique to dark elves either in the Warhammer world, does not mean it was not an important part of the economy in either America or Naggaroth.
      BTW, 'ignorant" is not a noun, "ignoramus" is the word you're looking for

  • @EisenKreutzer
    @EisenKreutzer 6 років тому +1236

    In Total War Warhammer, the dwarfs don’t actually have scottish accents. They have yorkshire accents.

    • @MegaPrototype101
      @MegaPrototype101 6 років тому +108

      The Dwarves in warhammer don't have scottish accents, it's all yorkshire-ish. There was only one instance of a scottish accented dwarf if I remember correctly and it was this insane engineer who created a large airship in one of the Gotrek and Felix books.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +188

      That's north England! It's literally a stones throw from Scotland.

    • @EisenKreutzer
      @EisenKreutzer 6 років тому +207

      Cody Bonds I’m pretty sure a lot of yorkshiremen would like to have some stern words with you about that statement. ;) Also, the dialects are pretty different.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +285

      As someone who has encountered plastered versions of both on the street, after three or four pints neither are speaking English anymore.

    • @danc3159
      @danc3159 6 років тому +66

      Yorkshire and Scotland are really different beasts and they aren’t that close. Video needs quite a bit of fact checking...

  • @tide8601
    @tide8601 4 роки тому +196

    A fun little nod: Skeggi, Norscan tribe. First Humans to land on the new world. A fun little nod to the Vikings of our world whom did the same, long before Columbus' time.

    • @Eothok
      @Eothok 2 роки тому +2

      So you’re saying Native Americans aren’t human?

    • @cephery8482
      @cephery8482 2 роки тому +5

      @@Eothok in warhammer lore they are the first humans, humanity started with the tomb king and was entirely confiend to the old world, no land bridge.
      So the skeggi were the first humans, but the real life counterpart is just being the first old world humans

  • @jackgeerson3239
    @jackgeerson3239 3 роки тому +105

    “Cathay will not appear in the warhammer games” *wh3 trailer* ohhhhhh boy.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  3 роки тому +38

      Very happy to be wrong on that.

    • @thedarkholegammertdhg9255
      @thedarkholegammertdhg9255 3 роки тому +1

      @@codybonds ah good you might actually see this. Now allow me to indulge myself here by shouting these five words. *clears throat*
      YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE HOBBITS!
      Thank you for the video but you missed the moot and khuresh, even just going over them like the other minor unfleshed

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  3 роки тому +6

      @@thedarkholegammertdhg9255 I also forgot the Chaos Dwarves. I intend to do an updated version as Warhammer 3 progresses.

    • @thedarkholegammertdhg9255
      @thedarkholegammertdhg9255 3 роки тому

      @@codybonds yea but there just emo Gothic dwarves, can't wait for that video

    • @ho8ojoe8
      @ho8ojoe8 3 роки тому

      Was having a look to see if anybody mentioned that haha. Also dark elves are solo america

  • @sambrown9052
    @sambrown9052 6 років тому +380

    Something kind of interesting I've noticed that you've left out was The Dwarf's similarities to the Byzantines. The Byzantines, like the Dwarf's, rule under an empire that was always on the defense and crumbling away and at one point we're one of the most powerful empires out there (like the Romans). Not only that but the Dawi are major innovators in weaponry. Sort of like the Byzantines with their Greek Fire. None the less, the similarities between Warhammer and our history is super interesting!

    • @eu.co.5627
      @eu.co.5627 6 років тому +14

      Not realy dwarfs are scotish + generic scandinavian
      But chaos dwarfs do resembel byzantines

    • @GonzoTehGreat
      @GonzoTehGreat 6 років тому +9

      In the late period of their empire wasn't Byzantine known for bribing enemies to avoid being attacked by them?
      If so, I'm not sure the Dwarves are comparable to them...

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому +18

      The Byzantines were Romans

    • @RC15O5
      @RC15O5 5 років тому +6

      @@thinkwithurdipstick thank you.

    • @danmarculescu9043
      @danmarculescu9043 5 років тому

      I always thaught that the Orcs were based on the semi nomadic tribes (turks especially)

  • @rothern3761
    @rothern3761 6 років тому +426

    Real cool video Cody, made my day
    Though I would have to say I do think the High elves and Dark elves also draw from greek history, specifically the two city states, Athens and spartan. The high elves are well known for their art, philosophy and are proud mariners with a heavy trade economy, and a society where all are expected to train in a professional militia and who's spearmen clearly draw from hoplites. Meanwhile, their hated enemy is a cruel and vicious society that is very similar but so very different at the same time. A cruel warrior culture where the weak are killed and the strong thrive, where slaves are the lifeblood of the nation and who give thanks to a god of merciless war and bloodshed, which would not be a wrong way of describing the spartana, though there is still alot else thrown in.

    • @nakenmil
      @nakenmil 5 років тому +8

      Good point.

    • @sethleoric2598
      @sethleoric2598 5 років тому +5

      But unlike spartans, the high elves are actually pretty big and aggressive in a way that they actually fight, i remember hearing that Sparta was really paranoid of a coup so they just kept to themselves

    • @AnMComm
      @AnMComm 5 років тому +12

      @@sethleoric2598 the spartans are the dark elves. "No trinkets, all Druchii make is for war"

    • @sethleoric2598
      @sethleoric2598 5 років тому +2

      @@AnMComm oops sorry, yeah i meant Dark Elves

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому +13

      I guess it wouldn’t be inaccurate if you went off of Athenian propaganda, but the Spartans were far more docile and reserved than you might imagine. They weren’t very imperialistic as they couldn’t risk a revolt from the helots by keeping their army away for long periods. And Mars is the god of bloody and unrestricted warfare, but he isn’t a god of murder like Khaine. Overall the general the Peloponnesian War comparison holds true, but the high elves are far more Athenian than the dark elves are Spartan

  • @stormyprawn
    @stormyprawn 4 роки тому +121

    Winged bears: exists
    Ottomans: *_NERVOUS SWEATING_*

  • @tobiashagstrom4168
    @tobiashagstrom4168 4 роки тому +37

    Stuff that I would add would be:
    Empire - They've got a sort of renaissance + enlightenment sort of progressive attitude to them, they're very pragmatic and ordered, they've got a professional way of doing things with well-equipped state troops. They're a nation that is trying to move beyond the stereotypical "dark age" restrictions - they don't shun magic, they teach it. They have a lot of Leonardo Da Vinci sort of inventiveness to them, such as with the steam tank.
    Bretonnia - They're the opposite of the Empire, they're comically repressive, bleak, traditional and hierarchical. Whilst they're obviously french linguistically, they draw mostly on english mythology - their king is named Louen Leoncoeur, which translates to Louen Lionheart (as in Richard Lionheart of England). Not only is the primary deity of their religion based off the Lady in the Lake, but there's also a mystical Green Knight figure, reminiscent of a character from Arthurian legend. Their religion also involves a "holy grail" that knights seek.
    Greenskins - Not only are their manners and attitude based on football hooligans, but you can sometimes see checkered patterns in their culture that stand out as a somewhat odd motif for an orc to like, this seems to be a nod to the fact that black and white checkered patterns are often used to mark things in sport, I think this is a kind of nod to their football hooligan connection.
    Lizardmen - Not only do the lizardmen seem inspired by South American native cultures, but they're also inspired by some of the sillier new-age beliefs about those cultures. The lizardmen were created by the Old Ones, seemingly an advanced technological space-faring precursor people, mirroring "ancient astronaut" theories about real world cultures such as the ones the lizardmen are based on. The lizardmen have also been ravaged by the skaven who wield magical weaponized diseases against them, mirroring the way that many native american cultures got hit hard by european diseases.
    Other than that, there's of course the chaos dwarfs, who are like regular dwarfs, except meaner, with more slavery, destructive machinery and an aesthetic based on mesopotamian culture. Bit of an odd choice, but it's interesting.

    • @adenowirus
      @adenowirus 4 роки тому +8

      The steam tank was invented by Leonardo da Miragliano from Tilea (Warhammer's Italy). Apparently he was the only one who knew how to actually build the thing, so canonically there are only eight steam tanks left.
      Speaking of Tilea, Skavenblight is also located there, in a place roughly corresponding to real-life Genoa, one of the first, if not the very first, european cities affected by the Black Death. Tileans are also said to treat the threat of Skaven very seriously.

    • @florentjacob1667
      @florentjacob1667 4 роки тому +2

      Richard Lionheart was not english but french, aquitainian, he did not even speaks english at all. And the Arthurian Legend was write by a french author Chrétien de Troyes... It's not at all English, not an once

  • @rhysboii720
    @rhysboii720 5 років тому +544

    Wood Elves are Switzerland, change my mind

    • @bwc153
      @bwc153 5 років тому +50

      Was coming here to say this! Their position of being smack dab in between "France", "HRE" and "Italy" is pretty blatant.

    • @Hafer_
      @Hafer_ 5 років тому +92

      Also they keep to themselves and maintain a pretty aggressive neutrality, killing anyone who enters their forest just like the Swiss shot anyone flying in their airspace during WW2

    • @whssy
      @whssy 5 років тому +4

      Perhaps with a bit of Finland thrown in for good measure?

    • @bobthetop3242
      @bobthetop3242 5 років тому +1

      Rhys Evans they are also rich so yes you are right

    • @dylanschnabel4859
      @dylanschnabel4859 5 років тому +2

      No, would elves are Finland

  • @jagvillani338
    @jagvillani338 6 років тому +102

    It should also be mentioned that the title of Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire was not hereditary, but rather there were Elector Princes, being the heads of the most powerful families that would come together to elect a new Emperor when the old one died. In practice they would elect one of their own to the position, and over time as power and titles were consolidated it became a de facto inheritance of the House of Habsburg but was still officially an elected title.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +17

      I love that aspect of it. The Saxon English had something similar where the Witenagemot would elect the next king. But much like in HRE it was usually a hereditary successor.

  • @vidrabagoly4246
    @vidrabagoly4246 4 роки тому +13

    Hi there! Cool vid.
    I am a Hungarian, and just want to clear some confusion: "Dragon" in Hungarian is "Sárkány". The whole "Dracula" name was originating from his fathers name "Dracul" witch in old Romanian means devil or indeed dragon, while the poor chap was neither. He just belonged to a dragon based knightly order and put it into his name. His son however was more than happy to live up to the name. His second name "Tepes" or at the time "Cepes" in the old Romanian meant "impailer" from his favorite method of execution, and psychological warfare. He once defeated an Ottoman army three times the size of his own, with scorched earth tactics, poison, and a "forest" around his capital consisting of around 20000 ottoman soldiers on spikes.

  • @blurg9677
    @blurg9677 4 роки тому +37

    Fun fact England (Albion) used to be a bunch of druids and celts, so Albion would be the equivalent to the British isles

    • @arizenation3188
      @arizenation3188 3 роки тому +2

      Albion is just what the celts called the british isles (in real life)

  • @krak532
    @krak532 5 років тому +48

    Chaos Knights definitely listens to Bolt-Thrower.

    • @wulfgraad3857
      @wulfgraad3857 4 роки тому +1

      Kraken ah a man of culture i see

  • @IJustKant
    @IJustKant 4 роки тому +8

    The elves seem to be based heavily off arthurian legend as well as Greek mythology. You have Aenarion (Arthur), the legendary king who united the realm and drove away the barbaric invaders, Ultuan being a paradise like Camelot, and Malekith (Mordred) being the son of Aenarion but being denied the throne (and eventually going to war over it). Then there’s Morathi (Morgana), Malekith’s mother and the one who pressured and manipulated her son into desiring the throne above all other things.

  • @scelonferdi
    @scelonferdi 5 років тому +36

    You were a bit unspecific on the southern realms. You made it sound like they were all considered border princes. Tilea is actually pretty much Rennaisance Italy(republican city states, Condotierri and characters like Marco Colombo and Leonardo di Miragliano), Estalia (consisting of kingdoms rather than republican states) is spanish, at least in all the names and the Border princes are meant to be a melting pot of people from all over the old world on its borders. So you might compare them to the Balkans (also in that they are pretty much a permanently contested Warzone).
    Also you left out things like the Hobgoblin Khanate (the name says it all) and the very mesopotamian Chaos Dwarfs.

  • @Arnaas12
    @Arnaas12 6 років тому +220

    I always imagined the High Elves as Britain and the Dark Elves as the United States. Makes sense geographically but also historically as the Dark Elves seceded from Ulthuan.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +77

      Makes sense. And I wouldn't put it past the English to still paint the US as the baddies 200 years later.

    • @backattack91
      @backattack91 5 років тому +1

      I'm pretty sure the dark elves were banished to not north America. But I could be wrong

    • @leewarner1780
      @leewarner1780 5 років тому +5

      Considering British did worse atrocious in the world then the US did

    • @gejnormcswipe8435
      @gejnormcswipe8435 5 років тому +25

      @@codybonds More things to make the Ulthuan is 1700/1800's Britain connection: A focus on naval supremacy, colonies all around the world.

    • @feliks8388
      @feliks8388 5 років тому +6

      They are drawn from the myth about atlantis (the plato version) , there are almost nothing about them that are similar to real world nations
      Atlantis have 7 major kingdoms (high elves also have that), all 6 kings answer to one king, atlas the high king of atlantis (the equivalent of high elves's Phoenix king). There are other similarities, i'm not going to list them here of course

  • @soulre4per999
    @soulre4per999 5 років тому +26

    I think the dwarves are supposed to be the eastern Roman Empire after the fall. A Very powerful empire that was technologically advanced for its time, that slowly had its empire torn apart and is now trying to regain its lost former glory. They could also be the Ottomans for the same reasons, plus the Ottomans had super siege cannons as well and an affinity for gunpowder and engineering

    • @cadettklinge603
      @cadettklinge603 5 років тому +1

      Now that you say it, they have the spirit of being a shadowempire like the byzantines.

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому +1

      Herdan the lizardmen were the first civilization, then the elves, then the dwarfs. The latter kind of developed in tandem but the elves were more quickly developed than the karaz ankor. And only the chaos dwarfs mimic Mesopotamian culture, the normal dwarfs are more akin to north englishmen mixed with the stereotypical dwarf from Tolkien’s legendarium

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому +1

      Herdan they were both made at the same time, the dwarfs and elves, but the elves were put under the direct supervision of the Slann. They learned about magic and formed a civilization long before the collapse of the polar warp gates, they even intentionally created their own gods. The dwarfs had to progress through their evolution from stone age to the height of their empire. They started expanding their empire with the ancestor gods around -5000, but the elves had clearly been established before that time. They were perhaps the most involved in fighting the chaos incursions alongside the lizardmen. The dwarfs fought, but the elves created the vortex with the help of the Slann. They had been around for a long while by the time the warp gates collapsed.
      And the normal dwarfs are not based on mesopotamians. The major inspiration for the aesthetic of the normal dwarfs is the traditional germanic/norse depiction of what dwarfs were, which is largely presented in Tolkien’s depiction. The Warhammer dwarfs are the stereotypical fantasy dwarf. They’re based heavily in norse mythology. The beards of normal dwarfs are clearly distinct from those of the chaos dwarfs. The chaos dwarfs have the typical mesopotamian style of segmented beard whereas the normal dwarfs have long, flowing, and sometimes braided beards in a northern european style. The normal dwarfs also have the norse aesthetic with the horned helmets as well, whereas chaos dwarfs have the funny little hats. Chaos dwarfs have architecture inspired by mesopotamia (ziggurats), normal dwarfs live underground like dwarfs of common fantasy. Dwarf society is based around a clan system, their political structure consists of a high king with lower subordinate kings (opposed to the chaos dwarfs’ setup of a priest king and a ruling class of priests, very mesopotamian), they value oaths and honor above all else. These are all reminiscent of norse history and mythology. Their law code isn’t necessarily eye for an eye, but they record wrongs and expect recompense in some form. This is extremely similar to the laws of viking cultures seen in Icelandic and Norse sagas where a wrong would be committed by one clan against another and the offended party would expect some sort of settlement, though not necessarily matching the crime exactly but being of equal value (if a person commits a murder, then their family/clan would be responsible for repaying the affected party, maybe with gold or even livestock). Beyond that, the names themselves are clearly inspired by scandinavian/germanic culture, such as (Thor)grim, Sven, Snorri, Alaric, Gurnisson (the common trend of appending the suffix -son is common in dwarf names, as with norse). The chaos dwarf names are more clearly mesopotamian, Zargon, Zharrduk, and Hashut. There may be small parts of the dwarf lore that could correlate to mesopotamia, but overall the aesthetic is norse/germanic with a mix of north english as far as their accent and personalities go.

    • @janekrosek4661
      @janekrosek4661 4 роки тому

      I always thought of the greenskins as being the Ottomans.
      -Firstly they are green, generally Ottomans used a lot of green, (for instance on their banners, green is also the color of Mahomet).
      Their heavy use of crescents (again Ottoman banners) especially the goblins.
      Furthermore their position on the world map kinda matches the Ottomans, between Tomb kings so Egypt and empires of the old world (so like the rest of Europe basically)

  • @thaileinh9877
    @thaileinh9877 5 років тому +107

    Dark Elf after broke off with the High Elf engage in an economy driven by slaves. And they located in the area which is now America.
    Also the High Elf from a race that used to had colonies all over the world now reduced to an island.

    • @braderson9308
      @braderson9308 5 років тому +16

      I always assimilated the high elves as English. Deadly and heavy use of bows, colonization, big island to rule from. Etc

    • @cmxpiipl
      @cmxpiipl 5 років тому +17

      @@braderson9308 Indeed and also posh and arrogant. With a sister race (the yankees) who are corrupted and lust filled. They really didn't shy a way with the stereotypes nor scratch their head much when building the Warhammer world.

    • @SolProxy
      @SolProxy 5 років тому +23

      @@LordBruuh The United States is basically built on greed and vanity. Good intentions but it has deteriorated quite badly. I'd rather live in Canada or something.

    • @Lightscribe225
      @Lightscribe225 5 років тому +5

      @@SolProxy Actually it was built on puritans that english thought was too uptight even for them. What, you thought the Salem witch trials were conducted because they didn't fulfill their orgy quotas?
      Also English in Warhammer are Albion.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  5 років тому +7

      Also convicts. My ancestors were sent here to work off their debts, a few were deported Scots, one was a witch fleeing England, and the last was involved in the gunpowder plot.

  • @AK____________________________
    @AK____________________________ 5 років тому +168

    Vlad was from Rumania not from Hungary
    He was voivod (ruler) of Wallachia
    Modern day Rumania
    Come on transilvania is the only thing people visit Romania

    • @luminosz6693
      @luminosz6693 5 років тому +8

      @thegenie finally someone who knows the truth about it history every time i try to tell this to people. Thank God there are people who know the truth. Love from Hungary!

    • @whssy
      @whssy 5 років тому +2

      @@luminosz6693 my Romanian friend from Transylvania is the daughter of 2 history teachers and she told me this too. Didn't stop her getting me a Vlad Tepes t-shirt though.

    • @zeyzxd1234
      @zeyzxd1234 5 років тому +2

      thegenie dude please tell me when was Wallachia a Hungarian vassal? Do some reasearch first.

    • @zeyzxd1234
      @zeyzxd1234 5 років тому +3

      Maybe he was born in Transilvania but the exact location of his birth is unknown. But he was the ruller of Walahia which was never under Hungarian control soo this makes him a Romanian

    • @AK____________________________
      @AK____________________________ 5 років тому +1

      ZeYz XD idk where this dudes come up with those
      Vllad took over after a time ottoman troops had control over Walachia
      The fact of him being is Hungarian is absurd

  • @inquisition3173
    @inquisition3173 5 років тому +14

    "Theyd never make a game about them." - Uh i mean norsca was out at this point and they dont have a rulebook. now with the vampire coast in as well, i think anything is possible.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  5 років тому

      Isn't that the truth. I'm still holding out for a Halfling army.

  • @Chfoulu
    @Chfoulu 5 років тому +17

    Great vid'
    Just one little thing :
    You mentionned the Native americans as an inspiration for Wood elves, but in fact, i think that the true inspiration for them is the Celtic culture. (Orion, the turning of seasons ans the runes/tattoos the yall have...)
    BUT when you look at it, the Forest goblins are in fact inspired by the native americans culture turned evil, big cliché feather hats, defending the forest against invaders (the empire) communicate with / respect nature ect..

  • @grissou2685
    @grissou2685 4 роки тому +26

    “Transilvania HUNGARY” non Romanian people who see what I mean : “Good,Good”

    • @a-drewg1716
      @a-drewg1716 4 роки тому +2

      well I mean the Principality of Transylvania was a part of the Hungarian Kingdom when Vlad ruled over Wallachia (as independent vassal of Hungary).

  • @ethanschenck9714
    @ethanschenck9714 6 років тому +81

    The Dwarf accent is actually from Yorkshire, not Scotland.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +5

      I THINK Lord of the Rings also uses a Northern accent. Warcraft uses Scottish for sure.

    • @mitchellbrough1615
      @mitchellbrough1615 6 років тому +3

      I don't know about in lore but in the total war: warhammer games it's definitely yorkshire

    • @GonzoTehGreat
      @GonzoTehGreat 6 років тому +1

      Gimli in the LotR films has a Sheffield accent. Boromir (played by Sean Bean, a Yorkshireman) has a Yorkshire accent.
      Both are North English accents so they sound similar at first but on further hearing are noticeably different.

    • @Mrtoen6
      @Mrtoen6 4 роки тому +1

      @@codybonds They do but supposedly that it all because of Warhammer's influence. Tolkien himself has said that he thought his Dwarves were most similiar to the Jews.

    • @joshhales4718
      @joshhales4718 4 роки тому

      TheShreester Gimli has a Scottish accent of some kind, though the actor is English. Sean Bean is from Sheffield, which is in Yorkshire, and has a slight Sheffield accent in the films. There’s no single ‘Yorkshire’ accent. Hope that helps!

  • @wanda5899
    @wanda5899 3 роки тому +5

    “Cathay will never appear in the warhammer games” CA 2 years later: are you sure about that

  • @dakotaa7535
    @dakotaa7535 5 років тому +2

    The Dwarfs aren't Scottish. They're the Yorkshiremen stereotype turned up to 11 and dressed up like Tolkien dwarves. A lot of the early Warhammer races were basic fantasy trope races whose accents and mannerisms were based off of regional sterotypes in Britain. (For example, The Elves of Ulthuan are a play on upper class Londoners, who were too proud to admit that their Empire is crumbling and they pretty much only have their island left..ect)

  • @jdim4628
    @jdim4628 6 років тому +7

    I always thought the High Elves and Dark Elves were based off of the British Empire and the Original 13 colonies of the U.S.A. Ulthuan is literally a collection of isles just like the British isles. At one point part of the populace moves across the ocean west, and a civil war is waged. The High Elves represent the fading British Empire losing a grip on its colonies while the Dark Elves are the upstart American rebels who I might add quickly develop a very slave dependent economy, representing the United States’ past stained by slavery that Britain had long moved past.

    • @whssy
      @whssy 5 років тому +1

      Except that the British Empire peaked at the time North America was running on a slave economy.

    • @Fordmister
      @Fordmister 4 роки тому

      A part everyone seems to forget in all this is ulthuan and nagaryth were connected prior to the sundering, its not as if the dark elves ran across the ocean and started being edgy pricks, rather that Malekith got so desperate he ended up splitting a continet in half. Ive always seen it more as american civil war but the players are actually fantasy elves.

  • @cormaccoyle9514
    @cormaccoyle9514 6 років тому +30

    Great video but what about the Chaos Dwarfs, I think you've missed them out.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +9

      I had them and then cut them. They're dwarves... But chaotic. A semi Babylonian feel to their clothes and architecture. I just couldn't think of anything else to say really. Now that I think about it the Babylonian makes sense for their positioning.

    • @parttimehero8640
      @parttimehero8640 6 років тому +4

      And their look and hierarchy. With High priest as the ruling class. Also their armies include a lot of goblin archers on wolfbacks that are a kind of satrapies. And their capital and ohter major cities are along a great river in the middle of a desert :)

  • @LordEsel88
    @LordEsel88 6 років тому +19

    Well done. This is a very good summary of the historical and mythological connections Warhammer Fantasy have to the real world. Some would say that this indicates laziness and a lack of imagination from the creators of Warhammer, but I find it to be the strength of Warhammer. It shows that they appreciates and respects history. It also can inspire you to study real history, which it in part did for me.
    If there is one thing I would have added to the video would be that the High Elves and Dark Elves are inspired partly by Athens and Sparta, and also other vague Greek inspiration.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +4

      I've seen that elsewhere but they just don't feel Greek to me. No Olympics no democracy no hoplites. What is it that I'm not seeing that everyone else is?

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +5

      And that's awesome that it inspired you. Too often people poo poo sensationalized history. But it does wonders to attract new interest.

    • @LordEsel88
      @LordEsel88 6 років тому +15

      The connection to Athens and Sparta is relatively clear, one being more cultured and the other heavily war-focused, but there are other things too:
      - Creatures from Greek mythology like Hydras, Medusas and Harpies are used by the Dark Elves.
      - The High Elven princes vote amongst themselves who the next Phoenix King is going to be, which is almost like democracy.
      - The elven gods are inspired by the Greek Pantheon in part. Even the original writers talked about this in an article in their game magazine.
      - High Elves have a militia system, with spear-armed citizen soldiers, not unlike the ancient Greeks and their Hoplites.
      - Malekith and Morathi have vague connections to Alexander the Great and his mother Queen Olympia: A son destined for greatness, and a hedonistic witch-of-a-mother who conspired to put him on the throne.
      - The island continent of Ulthuan is inspired partly by Atlantis. Also, were it not for the powerful elven magic keeping it afloat, Ulthuan would even sink beneath the waves, since the foundation was destroyed when apocalyptic spells were used during the elven civil war.

    • @mumfol4791
      @mumfol4791 6 років тому +1

      I find the standard spear infantry - hoplites comparison to be especially obvious. But they're not really hoplites, since these are more of an Anti-Inf/Cav unit than just Anti-Cav like the High Elf Spearmen.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +6

      That's the best explanation I've ever seen. Thank you!

  • @marcelwonderknight6681
    @marcelwonderknight6681 Рік тому +1

    I see, Sabaton has to make a music album about Warhammer. Could you imagine if Joakim sings "When the Winged Bear's arrived".

  • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
    @MinscFromBaldursGate92 5 років тому +9

    The Chaos faction Is inspired by Michael Moorcock's Elric stories.

  • @bp837
    @bp837 5 років тому +7

    Slight correction: Transylvania was indeed a province of Hungary (and later Austria) during the Middle Ages, however it always kept its distinct, Romanian origins. Also, Vlad Tepes is just straight up Romanian. He even ruled in Wallachia, where our capital is currently situated.

    • @sporetacusthebrave
      @sporetacusthebrave 5 років тому +2

      Transylvania was always one of Hungary`s core provinces since the "land taking" in the 9th century. Even hungarian kings descended from there and the romanian influence came from the recent past (there wasnt even a romanian "state" construct at that time except Wallachia which was a vasall of Hungary or some other construct where romanian "origins" in transylvania could come from). Even today after almost 100 years of seperation the hungarian minority there is still vast. But other than that, you are right. Vlad Tepes was a wallachian count (who still was a vassal of Hungary at that point of time but definitely romanian in todays viewpoints) and the Order name of "dracul" doesnt come from hungarian language but from romanian. I still think the creators of the VC didnt gave a shit about this history-conflict and just took their inspiration from both hungarian and romanian myths and regions.

    • @bp837
      @bp837 5 років тому +1

      Christ, that was a long essay to read. Though I most definitely agree with some of your points, I wasn't arguing for nothing more but the cultural diversity of Transylvania (which is also somewhat represented in Warhammer, with the reluctant coexistence of humans and undead in Sylvania), which could still be observed when the annexation happened in 1918. I don't think Transylvania should be seen as strictly Hungarian or Romanian, but as a result of both cultures' influence. After all, weren't John Hunyadi and Mathias Corvinus proud servants of the Hungarian people, in spite of their Romanian origins?

    • @sporetacusthebrave
      @sporetacusthebrave 5 років тому +1

      I can agree with that mostly. On another point I also feel that the von Carsteins are very inspired by the Habsburg dynasty, which is also implemented very greatly in the Warhammer world

  • @principetnomusic
    @principetnomusic 4 роки тому +10

    Dwarves live in the mountains, Scots also live in the mountains. That's it, that's why they're Scottish. Also, Tolkienian dwarves were based on Norse mythology but they were actually Jewish-inspired, their language was based on Hebrew

  • @sharkfin1171
    @sharkfin1171 5 років тому +14

    I would say that the Ogres, rather than being inspired by Mongolian Culture, were inspired by Central Asian Cultures, while Mongolians inspired the creation of the Hobgoblin Empire (Their leader is literally called Hobgobla Khan).

    • @SuperGman117
      @SuperGman117 5 років тому +4

      What about the Kurgans and Hungs?

  • @yorkshire_tea_innit8097
    @yorkshire_tea_innit8097 5 років тому +5

    In the game, dwarfs have Yorkshire accents, not Scottish. But really, all the things you said about Scotland could also apply to Yorkshire.

  • @Johnnythefirst
    @Johnnythefirst 3 роки тому +2

    Two years later: Cathay in game 3 and all of these are now possible dlc in the years to come. Woopwoop!

  • @isabellaciella1187
    @isabellaciella1187 3 роки тому +4

    Can you please do another one of this now that Warhammer 3 has been announced and almost all the DLC for 2 are out? It would be really awesome!

  • @Wormdo
    @Wormdo 5 років тому +1

    That medieval artwork is actually depicting the plague of mice on Ashdod, from the old testament, which, altho a literal plague of mice, had little to do with disease or the black death. There actually wasn't a connection made that rats were a vector of the plague back then; there was, however, a portent associated with mass visible die offs of rat populations and plague. The fear of rats didn't really emerge until around the late 1800's; its a fairly modern thing.

  • @martonlerant5672
    @martonlerant5672 4 роки тому +21

    How to piss of everyone in the balkans:
    Step 1: Mix up which country owns a geographic region currently (Transsylvania is in Romania...)
    Step 2: Mix up languages (No "dracul" is absolutely meaningless in hungarian...)
    So now you have both countries angry footbal ultras sharpening the proverbial ptichforks.

  • @elvastan
    @elvastan 3 роки тому +1

    The Dwarfs are actually northern english, due to their industry, and most of england's industrial output is from the cities of Liverpool and Manchester, that's why they sound so scottish.

    • @CaptainPrincess
      @CaptainPrincess 3 роки тому

      Id love to hear a dwarf with those accents tho lmao

  • @PattyOflan88
    @PattyOflan88 5 років тому +4

    I think the reason I love WH fantasy more than 40I is all the historical undertones, that are just totally used for whacky comedic affect

  • @celarc99
    @celarc99 2 роки тому +2

    "Cathay will never appear in a warhammer game. Or if they do, it'd be in the far far future."
    Well, it was in the future at least.

  • @NatsurinChannel
    @NatsurinChannel 6 років тому +4

    Very cool video. I enjoyed it.
    I just wanted to add that I think the Greenskins also have parallels with nomadic raiders from the Steppes.

    • @kolsveinnskraevolding
      @kolsveinnskraevolding 5 років тому +1

      They don't, actually. Except in the context with relations to the Germanic tribes, since the Volkerwandering was probably partly caused by the Hunnic migrations driving the eastern Germanic tribes into Western Europe. The Orcs in Warhammer similarly caused the migration of the Imperial tribes from the Wolf Lands into the Reik Basin.
      Now, the Kurgan tribes from the Chaos Wastes actually ARE directly based on steppe nomads, since they are also powerfully built tribesmen with dark hair and beards who practice horse archery. In fact, some Kurgan tribes are directly named after real life Turkic groups, like the Khazag and Dolgan.

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 5 років тому +1

      @@cicero8939 I doubt that. Greenskins have no desire to spread their religion to other races and don't even follow simular ideologies. They don't fight because of something they believe in but because they find it fun and because it is part of their natural behavior.
      I'd also like to point out that a) people weren't really as bothered about Islam back then before 9/11 (unless you go all the way back to the middle ages) and b) that "muslim hordes" is rather inaccurate to history. At some points in history they managed to build rather sizeable empires but not in an hit-and-run style campaign. They expanded their realms like most other empires did, piece by piece, conquering regions either to secure their realms or because there was something they wanted.

  • @superiorsoldier57
    @superiorsoldier57 3 роки тому +1

    Alright, let me get this straight everyone!
    The Old Ones decided to create themselves a testing site, like a petri dish, of what could happen to the Galaxy; so, they make for themselves a little pocket Universe with a planet in it -- known as "The Fated Place" -- and set a bunch of races there to observe them.
    The Empire is the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Imperium. This faction is led by Sigmar, Primarch of the II Legion... and yes, that's Warhammer 40,000 we're talking about.
    The Dwarves are the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Imperial Guard Squats.
    The Beastmen are about the same as the Imperial Guard Beastmen except in this case they're bad guys.
    The Elves are the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Aeldari.
    I'm not sure if there exists a Warhammer Fantasy faction that resembles the K'Nib, but If there is a faction with Ten-Limbed monstrosities in it let me know.
    The Nippon is the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Tau.
    The Skaven are the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Rangda.
    The Tomb Kingdom is the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Canoptek Necrons.
    The Undead is the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Rak Gol.
    The Orks in the Warhammer Fantasy universe are about the same as the Orks in the Warhammer 40,000 universe, except they lack a more modernized WAAAAGH! style of Warfare.
    Chaos is pretty much the same as well, except they don't have any formerly Imperial Daemon Engines or Lost and Damned and Chaos Space Marine Allies.
    The Lizardmen are the Warhammer Fantasy version of either the Slann or the Tyranid Hive.
    There are no factions within the Warhammer Fantasy universe that seem to resemble the Megarachnids.
    So... what do you guys think?

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  3 роки тому +1

      Keep in mind. Warhammer Fantasy predates Warhammer 40k. But yes Games Workshop borrowed inspiration from both properties as they progressed.

  • @RobinaufderHeide
    @RobinaufderHeide 5 років тому +3

    10:53 *A wild Willem Dafoe appears* "Symbology? I'm sure the word you were looking for was 'symbolism'!"

  • @shannonbrown7016
    @shannonbrown7016 Рік тому

    All of this makes Warhammer so epic. I already knew everything he said in the video, but I don't think of it like that. The Dwarvish accent makes sense to me. It's epic.

  • @Outcast008
    @Outcast008 4 роки тому +3

    Always felt that the Skaven we taken from the movie "Secret of NIMH"

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  4 роки тому +1

      That is a really good comparison! And the timeline fits as it came out in 1982. I'm definitely going to mention this when I do a sequel for game 3.

  • @blakeking1125
    @blakeking1125 2 роки тому +1

    I always got more of a radioactive vibe from skaven. What with their green glowing warpstone that fuels all their inventions, the grotesque mutants they manufactured, and the fact that one clan actually makes nukes.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  2 роки тому +1

      There's definitely some uranium undertones.

  • @terrorcop101
    @terrorcop101 3 роки тому +4

    3:56 Well that prediction was wrong.

  • @paradoxinraindrops141
    @paradoxinraindrops141 2 роки тому

    Been getting more and more into Warhammer lore but I found Fantasy (and End Times) the hardest to really find a good all round video on especially the world and history. This was great!

  • @mitchellchristian1
    @mitchellchristian1 5 років тому +6

    I see the Age of Empire 3 artwork there at 3:50 , sneaky

  • @cheesus7672
    @cheesus7672 3 роки тому +2

    You missed the opportunity to use some well fitting Sabaton songs:
    Norsca - Swedish Pagans
    Empire - Last Stand/Gott mit uns
    Kislev - The Winged Hussars arrived
    Vampire Counts - Attack of the dead men

  • @pronumeral1446
    @pronumeral1446 5 років тому +4

    I'd just like to mention a few literary and historical sources for some of the races:
    Dark Elves - heavy influence from Greek Mythology. Hydras, Gorgons, Oracles, Gladiators etc. Also very S&M.
    High Elves - heavily based on Michael Moorcock's Elric stories, where a civilisation called melninboneans live on an island continent, they are in decline, have sleepy dragons etc.
    Wood Elves - heavy celtic and early anglo-saxon influence.
    Skaven - see Fritz Leiber's "The Swords of Lankmar". Also some of the medieval Jewish racist stereotypes with the well poisoning and such.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  5 років тому +1

      I hadn't connected the Jewish stereotypes until you mentioned it here. They even gave them 12 clans.

    • @whssy
      @whssy 5 років тому

      The S&M makes the Dark Elves my favourite faction.

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому

      Cody Bonds there are more than 12 clans though...

  • @petrumalbulescu6105
    @petrumalbulescu6105 4 роки тому +1

    I know its a bit confusing, but Vlad Tepes (the one who inspired the vampire counts) was a Romanian ruler, the Voievod of Valahia, then for a short period was the voievod of Transylvania. Transylvania, in the 14th century was a vassal state of the Ottoman empire

  • @UNION_JACK_THE_RIPPER
    @UNION_JACK_THE_RIPPER 6 років тому +9

    I would consider the cult of ulric more based on the gothic tribes of the roman period seeing how they maintain the old barbaric ways where as the rest of the empire tries to get away from that. Symbolising germany trying to get away and forget its past.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому

      Isn't one of the Empires knightly orders based off them?

    • @jamesslack7332
      @jamesslack7332 6 років тому +1

      I think the cult of Ulric is a bit of an amalgamation of the tuetons germanic tribe and also the Tuetonic order of Knights. They have a semi pagan belief and are also less technologically advanced (no gunpowder). They also have a unit called the Teutogen Gaurd.

    • @josephcourtright8071
      @josephcourtright8071 5 років тому +1

      The cult of Ulric is a token to protestant catholic feud. They are the worlds protestants. Their claim that Sigmar worshiped Ulric and Ulric is the true god. Its similar to how the protestants view themselves as restoring Christianity to its true form.

    • @AnMComm
      @AnMComm 5 років тому

      Ulric is their version of the cult of Romulus. Even the wolf symbolism is there.

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick 5 років тому

      The Cult of Ulric reflects the religious beliefs of Germanic tribes from antiquity. It is a holdover of the pagan gods and worship. Ulric is a cold god, uncaring and a proponent of the mantra that only the strong survive. He’s a god of warriors, which is why he’s so popular in the rougher parts of the empire in the north. The Knights of the White Wolf are the knightly order and the Teutogen guard are a contingent of elite warriors that follow the Cult of Ulric. While the dynamic between the Cult of Ulric and the Cult of Sigmar may reflect that which existed between Catholicism and Protestantism in the HRE, the Cult of Ulric is nothing like Protestantism

  • @user-yh4tc5vh5f
    @user-yh4tc5vh5f 5 років тому +2

    Note that the Elves' look are actually based on the ancient middle east as well plato's atlantis.

  • @phylosopherstoned9845
    @phylosopherstoned9845 5 років тому +3

    I always thought the Dwarves were based on the Jwes, short, hairy, shiny gold and jewels, you know the stereotypes, their land also looks like their diaspora.

  • @andrewelymedina6381
    @andrewelymedina6381 2 роки тому

    THANK GOD, I've been searching for a video like this for a long time

  • @JGLatro
    @JGLatro 5 років тому +3

    I think that the Skaven were inspired by popular book series of the 1980s that involved anthropomorphic rats like Redwall and the rats of NIMH.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  5 років тому +2

      Rats of NIMH I could see. That movie is terrifying.

  • @hmasterchaos8700
    @hmasterchaos8700 3 роки тому

    3:49 when I look at the Cathay cover, all I see is a man with ambition known only as “Cow Cow” XD

  • @lvivga2934
    @lvivga2934 5 років тому +13

    Dracul not a hungarian word. It is a romanian word. And it is means dragon. Tepes has not lived in Transylvania, he lived in Wallachia. The vampire mith of the Hungarian vampires(Transylvanian) has started in the 1800`s years.

    • @dhorn4005
      @dhorn4005 5 років тому +1

      Both Transilvania and Wallachia are part of Romania... I don't see where Hungria has anithing to do in the picture at all

    • @lvivga2934
      @lvivga2934 5 років тому +1

      @@dhorn4005 Now. But in the Middle ages Transylvania was a part of Hungary, and not Wallachia. Vlad Tepes was a Wallachian duke(not a king). He probably had some minor territories on the border of Transylvania, what he got from the Hungarian Governor Hunyadi János.The legend of the Transylvanian vampires, started in the 1830's. And in this time started the Dracula mith too, because foreginers thoght Vlad was a Transylvanian noble and he came back from the dath as a vampire.

    • @user-ib2vm8mm2s
      @user-ib2vm8mm2s 5 років тому

      vampires are from Serbian mythology, and the myth is much older than 1800's. Tzar Dusan mentioned vampires as far as 1300's years

    • @lvivga2934
      @lvivga2934 5 років тому

      @@user-ib2vm8mm2s The vampires were in the myth of the ancient greeks, so it is a very ancient myth. I said the Dracula myth is hungarian from the 1800`s, not the vampore myth.

    • @user-ib2vm8mm2s
      @user-ib2vm8mm2s 5 років тому +1

      @@lvivga2934 no they weren't, many countries have had similar blood suckers in their mythologies but vampire is from Serbian mythology, it is a Serbian word.

  • @leestreet8108
    @leestreet8108 5 років тому +2

    I am a fan of history and warhammer, and I think u nailed it sir.

  • @BetaScorpion
    @BetaScorpion 5 років тому +11

    Great video, I'll just add two small comments:
    1) Bretonnia is based on the country of Britanny, which is basically a mixture of England and France, e.g the Arthurian mythos and French names of characters.
    2) I wouldn't really say that the dwarfs are industrualized, they are certainly in the very late Renessance, but if there is a industrialized faction in Warhammer its the chaos dwarfs
    3) You missed the chaos dwarfs :D

    • @poshboy4749
      @poshboy4749 5 років тому

      The Dwarves have trains, helicopters ,and breachloading rifles. They are definitely industrialised, no cottage industry is creating all that.

    • @haidouk872
      @haidouk872 5 років тому +1

      There is no country of Brittany my friend, only a french region :)
      But maybe you meant the old legendary Brittany of King arthur, the lands of bretons, which is mainly England, but also, parts of France. So the "Dame du Lac" thing, chivalry and legends come from this Arthurian Brittany part, and the names, and the kind of units they have is very much alike medieval France.

    • @whssy
      @whssy 5 років тому

      @@haidouk872 Quite. Bordeleaux is clearly Bordeaux, for example. I don't think the average Girondin would take too kindly to being lumped in with the Bretons.
      Lady of the Lake is undeniably English Arthurianism, which was essentially French anyway.
      From here malpy.free.fr/bretonnie/maps/click_map/Cities.html
      Quenelles : Lyon
      Parravon : Dijon
      L'Anguille : St-Malo
      Couronne : Rouen (with the miraculous springs of Lourdes)
      Bordeleaux (Bordello?!!) : Bordeaux
      Oisillon : Versailles
      Guisoreux : Paris
      Brionne : Bayonne
      Moussillon : Nantes (a place called Mousillon actually exists in the region of Nantes)

    • @BetaScorpion
      @BetaScorpion 5 років тому +1

      @@haidouk872 Now yes, but during the Middle Ages it existed as an independent country at least briefly.

    • @filthyshoggoth
      @filthyshoggoth 4 роки тому

      I'd argue the Skaven are the most industrialized, having achieved orbital flight and a form of nuclear fusion.

  • @AngelusNielson
    @AngelusNielson 2 роки тому +1

    I have never heard anyone say "SKA-ven" But I love it because I mentally see a rat skanking. (it's a dance, not pornographic. )

  • @jaelski1217
    @jaelski1217 3 роки тому +6

    The winged hussars have officially arrived.

  • @foxdavion6865
    @foxdavion6865 5 років тому

    You forgot Chaos Dwarfs and Hobgoblins. There are also smatterings of various mixes of Chaos cults, Goblin tribes, Lizardmen, Wood Elf enclaves, necrotic tomb kings loyal to Nagash, a single large tomb king enclave and other unspeakble horrors including an actual non roaming fixed nation of beastmen up and down the eastern regions of the southlands. There is also an Isolated Dwarf kingdom down there which is represented in the second total war game, but was only briefly covered in the table top game lore, in the lore apparently they were overrun by the skaven at roughly this time.

  • @stephanosholleville9201
    @stephanosholleville9201 6 років тому +32

    I'm ok with most of your talking, but there is much more to talk about the elves.
    Wood Elves are a mix wit some Tolkien concepts such as ents and Mirkwood elves, and feys from arthurian legends.
    High Elves take influence from Ancient Greece, Byzantium, the Roman Empire (with the navy) and the European imperialist countries, such as 17th-early 20th century England (but only the upper class, because they don't mix with other people and they are arrogant wine drinkers), because they have a big navy and colonial culture, basically governing overseas.
    The Dark Elves are similar to the high elves, as they have roman and greek elements, but with a dark touch. As the roman, they are an esclavagist culture. They are obviously influences by Moorcock's Melniboneans (you should learn about the Elric of Melnibonee novels, they are fantastic).

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +5

      I saw references to the Moorcock novels elsewhere. But without having read them I couldn't be sure how accurate the comparison was. And it felt disingenuous to include them. You could easily do a 5 minute video on each race, I made this as something like an overview.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +3

      I enjoyed the original Conan novellas. So would you recommend those to read?

  • @langa77777
    @langa77777 4 роки тому

    Gotrek and Felix is all you need to know about warhammer. Axe boy has a vendetta to satisfy

  • @maryantheprotector1606
    @maryantheprotector1606 5 років тому +15

    Vlad Tepes the 3rd was a Romanian leader. Why mix it up with the Hungarians? :(

    • @SaurianSavior
      @SaurianSavior 5 років тому +2

      That's what happens when you just read a fact without being able to verify it.

    • @Janiside
      @Janiside 5 років тому +1

      Westerners sometimes confuse things in this region. Probably happened because he born in a transylvanian saxon city and Transylvania was part of the kingdom of Hungary, meanwhile his family was wallachian.

    • @puruttyaaa
      @puruttyaaa 4 роки тому +1

      cuman* the Basarab dynasty originates itself from cumans, not vlachs.
      romanian was not a thing till the middle of 19th century.

    • @puruttyaaa
      @puruttyaaa 4 роки тому

      @@Janiside Basarab/Draculesti dynasty was not vlach.
      vlachs had no own aristocracy.

    • @AD45
      @AD45 4 роки тому

      @@puruttyaaa wrong

  • @colinmallery50
    @colinmallery50 5 років тому +1

    The idea of history influencing fantasy cultures is my inspiration for d&d campaigns

  • @mumfol4791
    @mumfol4791 6 років тому +3

    Yes, he did it!! And it was far more than I expected! Amazing video, as always.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +1

      Absolute madman here.

  • @Arhatu
    @Arhatu 6 років тому +2

    Before Totalwar, Warhammer was a well known and loved universe.I still play Mark of Chaos and enjoy more than I enjoy Totalwar even if the game is old.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +1

      I played the Warhammer MMO! It's a shame it's not still around. Now that I've gotten into the stiry of it I would love to go back and see the world.

  • @TheStargateNerd
    @TheStargateNerd 4 роки тому +3

    "The Real History of Warhammer"
    Ah yes, lizard people fighting skeletons was my favourite era!

  • @Heavente
    @Heavente 3 роки тому

    Just something interesting to think about Praag is Prague in Dutch, in and around Praag were lot of important battles... But it is really wierd Prague is ruled by Kislev, it should have been part of Empire. Especcialy when there was Czech king and Holy Roman Emperor which founded Karels University in Prague.
    When writing this it came to my mind , Karel IV ruled his kingdom as Karl Franz planned to and tried.

  • @scrubone4938
    @scrubone4938 5 років тому +22

    Dark Elves are rebels from the Atlantis/British continent living in the North American looking continent so Dark elves are North Americans

  • @djinnglebells241
    @djinnglebells241 3 роки тому

    We also have a unique to game faction in the Vampire Coast, which is basically just an undead Caribbean during the Golden Age of piracy, late 1600s to early 1700s

  • @CommanderTavos99
    @CommanderTavos99 5 років тому +5

    I actually think that the wood elves are the english, bow focus, isolated, no can come to them and stuff like that, and they are enemys with the french as well

    • @CommanderTavos99
      @CommanderTavos99 5 років тому +1

      @Melkhiordarkblade ah okay thanks didn't know that

  • @dtt719
    @dtt719 4 роки тому

    The Skaven also draw from early 20th century warfare and in particular World War One. The gas masks are copies of ones used in the trenches. Their use of chemical weapons and experimental new technologies also points to a WWI theme.

  • @adamkarkulin
    @adamkarkulin 5 років тому +3

    Great video but you could have mentioned Praag, the Cursed City.
    In Warhammer it is part of Empire which nicely corelates to the reality. Prague was the capitol of Kingdom of Bohemia which belonged to Holy Roman Empire (HRE). The king of Bohemia was also a prince-elector and few times it was the capitol of HRE (given the fact that the Emperor moved the court or he was King of Bohemia who was elected like for example Charles IV). Now I dont know much about Warhammer lore but when you look at Warhammer wiki you will find a map which is VERY similar to the map of real Prague.
    warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Praag
    Examples (just to name a few):
    Warhammer - Reality
    Karlsbridge - same but with a "C"
    The Oldtown - same
    The Newtown - same
    The position of citadel - possibly the Prague Castle
    The river - almost same but less curved then in reality (you could say it is so due to its "historical" nature)
    Also the wiki mentions this and I quote: "... in the days before the Collages of Magic in Altdorf, Praag was the centre of the Old World for magical and alchemical experimentation..." This is most likely inspired by Rudolf II, Holy Roman Emperor who was known as great patron. He was a devotee of occult arts and alchemy.
    There might be even more similarities to other parts of real HRE but this was something I noticed right away after playing TW: Warhammer :D

    • @TheTeremaster
      @TheTeremaster 5 років тому

      Read that page, Praag is pretty much Cadia

  • @omertarkcakmak9753
    @omertarkcakmak9753 6 років тому +2

    First off, pyramids were not built by slaves, they were by built local egyptian population. Secondly, the picture at 9:03 does not depict Vlad Tepes and the central figure in that picture is actually Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому +3

      I agree on both your points. I put up a picture of Mehmed as that is who Vlad was fighting. Slaves were used for construction in Egypt later, but my understanding is not for the pyramids. Hopefully I didn't say that. But the Tomb Kings faction has them listed as the labor source for their alt history world.

  • @dattmax4289
    @dattmax4289 6 років тому +3

    I would say Ulthuan is England. Because of the Kolonies and stuff like gb

    • @dattmax4289
      @dattmax4289 6 років тому

      hahaha when yu said Phoenix king I instandly thought f avatar xD

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому

      Man alive I miss that show. The writers are supposed to have a new one coming to Netflix

    • @dattmax4289
      @dattmax4289 6 років тому

      I heard that too. But the writers havent answered yet

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  6 років тому

      It's not a new avatar sadly. They're calling it 'The Dragon Prince.'

    • @dattmax4289
      @dattmax4289 6 років тому

      Cody Bonds i honestly never heared from that

  • @devonmacdonald9897
    @devonmacdonald9897 4 роки тому +1

    I always considered the high elves to be based off of Golden Age Athens, due to the fact that they exhibit the same attitude that Athens had after the Persian wars. Highly cultural, rich, powerful navy, and a belief that they were the model that everyone else should follow. The High elves also have a democracy to the extent that the Phoenix King is elected by the landed gentry, and not inherited.
    Dark Elves, on the other hand, are a straight up Spartan, Autocratic military society where the elite only pursue martial prowess and live off of a slave economy.

  • @markoturalija8367
    @markoturalija8367 5 років тому +59

    Warhammer orcs are the original big green skin orcs

    • @dyfrigshandy
      @dyfrigshandy 5 років тому

      Goblins?

    • @tomh2572
      @tomh2572 4 роки тому

      In warhammer they're spelled Orks, and theres no copyright issue with it so I dont know why he said that

    • @tertmemelur1880
      @tertmemelur1880 4 роки тому +1

      Just checked, AD&D was realised a couple years prior and already featured big green skinned orcs who would group up with goblins in the same fashion as in warhammer

    • @filthyshoggoth
      @filthyshoggoth 4 роки тому

      @@tomh2572 Yes, there is. Orc with a C by itself is a copyrighted word. All Orcs in Fantasy have modifier titles to avoid legal issue, which is why it's a K in 40k.

    • @NotSaddamHussein
      @NotSaddamHussein 3 роки тому

      zog off

  • @mortman200
    @mortman200 4 роки тому

    One of the things I find amusing in the Vortex campaign map is the placement of some of the Elf factions. Alith Anar starts in what is essentially Warhammer Newfoundland, which makes me see him and his Shadow Walkers of Nagarythe as pissed off Newfies coming to kick the American Dark Elves off of the land.
    Also California is a volcanic hellscape and that's hilarious.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  4 роки тому

      And also an accurate depiction of Cali.

  • @tristanm3545
    @tristanm3545 5 років тому +3

    as a french i believe that we share similarities with the bretonnian (we both eat frog)

    • @florentjacob1667
      @florentjacob1667 4 роки тому

      Yes, Bretonnie has nothing to do with english culture

  • @brynmorepayne1465
    @brynmorepayne1465 4 роки тому

    I grew up in Nottingham where Warhammer is from and there was a nearby seaside town called Skegness that EVERYONE in Nottingham went to on vacations. Skegness, commonly refered to as Skeggi. A historically Norse settlement :)

  • @ChaingunCassidy
    @ChaingunCassidy 5 років тому +3

    "Scottish accents" I'm sure someone has said this but most of the Dawi voices in the game have northern English accents.

  • @Mouseforatu
    @Mouseforatu 4 роки тому

    The techno-sorcery of the skaven are inspired by Misses Frisby and the Rats of NIMH, you can't change my mind

  • @AnMComm
    @AnMComm 5 років тому +4

    On the matter of Beastmen: those are actually simply plagiarized Groo for which Games Workshop made figurines, later simply repurposing those to cut costs.

  • @wulfgraad3857
    @wulfgraad3857 4 роки тому

    I just got the best idea for a dlc for the chaos faction.... A monster-like unit with Warriors on top playing extreme death metal, boosting morale and striking fear in the enemy, i'd give anything for this to happen

  • @gerihuginn2143
    @gerihuginn2143 5 років тому +3

    Correction : Transilvania is in Romania , Vald Tepes was Wallachian, romanian and his name was Draculea not Dragulea.

    • @luminosz6693
      @luminosz6693 5 років тому +1

      I would like to correct you Transylvania is Hungarian and the miths of vampires and the Dracula story's coma from Vlad Dracul a Hungarian ruler of Transylvania in the times of the Ottoman invasions. When Hungary was broken into three pieces. So Transylvania is in Romania because of trianon but rightfully it is Hungarian land. There's your correction.

    • @gerihuginn2143
      @gerihuginn2143 5 років тому

      @@luminosz6693 90% of what you said is wrong.
      1) Transylvania is in Romanai and has long been inhabited by romanians , it was conquered by the Austria 1st and then by Hungary.
      2) While the stories of the vampires originate from Transilvania, Vlad Dracul wasn't hungarian or the ruler of Transilvania, a lot of people got this wrong because of the Dracula story and the fact that the legend is from Transilvania. He was the Prince of Valahia, and one of his (distant ) cousins was the ruler in Transivania , the King of Hungary Mathias Corvinus , also Mathias started the vampire legends about Vlad in order to motivate his betrayel towards Vlad when he made a deal with the ottoman Emperor , Vlad's head and the ottomans would not attack Hungary(surprise the ottomans had no honor and didn't not held their word, the man that scared the ottomans the most died for nothing).

    • @luminosz6693
      @luminosz6693 5 років тому +1

      @@gerihuginn2143 your first point is just wrong Hungarians imvaded transilvania when we entered the carpathian basin you serch hungarian history and its there also i am hungariwn and my godfather lives in transilvania and is hungarian and its just false. Austrai only invaded transilvania when as an independent nation wanted to break away but as it was in history hungary at that time was under a habsburgs rule so thats that. And sorry but my godfather studied transelvanian history in depth and i am a folkdancer who traveled to a lot a villages and distant places where you can find the truth through libraries and ancient recordings so plesa don't try to educate me on my countries history and trianon was what gave romanje transilvania and it was the romaniens who came in to transilvania and yes today they have a majority but its because they are actively making sure hungariens in the region cannot be themselves so truth bomb. If you travel to tramsilvania you will see what i am talking about and also you just have to sit down and talk with a hungarian is transilvania and they will tell you the truth.

    • @gerihuginn2143
      @gerihuginn2143 5 років тому

      @@luminosz6693 Well maybe i got the invasions order wrong. And I know that romanians and hungarians can't eye to eye when it comes to Transilvania. Also don't you try to teach me MY country's history.
      Also this is the infamous magyar history i heard about , the only people in Europe that fabricated their history and try to steal and claim figures and cultures that is not theirs.
      Also i can see that your godfather is nothing but a fraud since you claimed that Vlad Tepes was the ruler of Transilvania.
      Also don't comment anymore you are simply uncultured.

  • @TimeyWimey.
    @TimeyWimey. 2 роки тому +1

    Wonder if Ind is going to be a DLC faction? Though it would likely take a lot more work than the previous ones considering it would need to be built from the ground up like Cathay was. The same goes for Nippon. But that could mean we'd get both in 1 mega pack if they decide to add them. The Mystery Nations Bundle or something like that.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  2 роки тому

      A recent interview with CA's story writer Andy Hall said no, but I wouldn't trust that interview.

    • @TimeyWimey.
      @TimeyWimey. 2 роки тому +1

      @@codybonds I also heard that they were open to putting any of the old world factions into the game at some point in time (I imagine with the more risky ones being the exception). And considering this is supposed to be the last game, I'd imagine it's only a matter of time until we do have all the factions within the lore.
      But they likely don't have plans for them in the foreseeable future.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  2 роки тому +1

      @@TimeyWimey. I think it really depends on how long the game is supported. The longer there is DLC being sold, the more likely we'll see the minor factions

    • @TimeyWimey.
      @TimeyWimey. 2 роки тому

      @@codybonds wouldn't adding minor factions/races sell more dlc? Sigmar knows how many people ask for Halflings, Amazons, etc.
      And considering that most people I run into on multiplayer have all the dlc, I don't think it's really a question of if they can sell the dlc (it's more like "when is the next one coming out?").

  • @MarshallTheArtist
    @MarshallTheArtist 2 роки тому +4

    You're absolutely right. We will never see Cathay in the game.

  • @nickgundersen8246
    @nickgundersen8246 5 років тому

    Albion is a settlement in Mortal Empires, so it wouldn't be unreasonable that it could be a faction which takes control of that settlement. If it ever comes out.

    • @codybonds
      @codybonds  5 років тому

      I suspect this was CAs original intention with the DLC scenario campaigns. We likely would have gotten an Albion mini camapaign, but the switch to 4 DLC lords nixed all that.

  • @andrewmcclean823
    @andrewmcclean823 5 років тому +38

    Dwarves have Yorkshire accents. not even slightly Scottish.

    • @nakenmil
      @nakenmil 5 років тому +1

      In the books, I think it's noted that Norscan Dwarfs have a Glaswegian burr.

    • @andrewmcclean823
      @andrewmcclean823 5 років тому +1

      @@nakenmil Yeah but it is considered a notable exception and even other dwarves find them hard to understand

    • @whssy
      @whssy 5 років тому +1

      @@andrewmcclean823 which is a bit like how we Yorkshiremen find Glaswegians pretty incomprehensible.

    • @JerreyRough
      @JerreyRough 5 років тому

      Yeah. There's only one known dwarf character with a scottish accent, Malakai Makaisson. And he's from some random valley out somewhere in the worlds edge mountains afaik, no major hold has the accent.

    • @Zectifin
      @Zectifin 5 років тому +1

      Eh, it's all the same.

  • @theguynamedmoney9676
    @theguynamedmoney9676 4 роки тому

    I enjoy that Cody, when talking about Vlad Tepesh, decides to instead show a picture of Mehmet the second in the painting depicting him conquering Constantinople. Mehmet ofcourse beeing the ottoman Sultan Vlad was fighting against.

  • @danc3159
    @danc3159 6 років тому +17

    Dwarves are based on British working class miners

  • @Koyu_Ruh
    @Koyu_Ruh Рік тому +1

    Well I think Skaven are based on . . . WW2 Germans to a degree, at least Clan Skryre and to an extend Clan Moulder - which specifically is also a reference to Doctor Frankenstein, whose experiements too went off in Germany, other than that those two clans happen to have the highest technology around, conduct inhumane experiments on the livingis, and engineer technology, that was able to punch holes into any opposing force.
    That clan Pestilens is clearly as reference for the bubonic plague - which also affected Europe and Germany - is also painfully obvious.
    I can't tell what Clan Rictus or Mors are supposed to represent. Clan Eshin is. . . Weeeell. . . Most obviously Asian themed Ninja/Shinobi inspired rats.
    Long story short: If the Empire is a mix of Roman and German culture, Clan Skryre and Clan Moulder are [German Soldiers] of a certain period, which explains their technology and lack of ethics.