All the Steps for Planting Potatoes in Containers... in the Summer! - I Plant Them 3x's a Year
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- 'Early potatoes' does not mean plant early in the season. It means matures the earliest of the potato categories. They mature in 70-90 days. Here is how I plant them in containers. Easy success and you can plant them in June and July too.
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Just harvested my potatoes today with my daughter. Can't think of a better crop to grow to get kids involved. She had so much fun rooting through the soil for them.
So much fun
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I like green beans and potatoes too. Matter of fact, I'm having some for dinner tonight!
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Oh thank you!!! My potato's had gone yellow and I though they had died so I was getting ready to just ditch the entire container...then I realized WAIT, I had planted them in early spring!!!! They were ready to harvest not dead!!! Thank you for the very helpful video! I iwll be planting more!!! Thank you again!!!
Nice. Glad you got some and you can plant again for sure
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Gary! You’re the best!
Thank you for walking me through the steps. I am excited to see my harvest.
Another great, straight forward video!! Thanks so much! Gods blessings 🙏
I can’t wait to try this. Thanks Gary!!
Good luck
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Great video as always. So much info but made easy. Thank you 🙏🏻
They are fun to grow
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That’s awesome! Really need to try this.
Worth a try
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Thank you.
Glad
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Thanks for the advice on potatoes gonna plant more next year your garden looks great 🙂🦋🦋🦋🦋
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waw... very nice IDEA........ JUST love it totally
I really love growing potatoes.
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Love this video! Thanks 😊🙏
Thanks so much
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I rotated where I planted potatoes this year in my raised bed. But I have some come up in the old area. I guess I missed digging some up.
I seem to get at least a few like that every year. :)
Oh yea. I have that going on
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Great job
Thanks so much
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Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for walking me through this late planting of early potatoes!!! Now I can finish my garden with all the leftover potatoes I couldn't get planted in May!!! I'm in Central Illinois, zone 5B, there are so few gardening channels for this middle of the road gardening zone...Your channel has been such a blessing to me so again, I THANK YOU!!! P.S. I just bought your book and keep the great content coming!
Getting ready to put these potatoes in bags tomorrow. So i am going thru all your potato videos just to make sure i have it in my head. Thanks for posting them for us.
Nice. I do vary the technique with the newest usually being simpler btw
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I planted some in the Green Stalk and they’re coming along nicely. Thanks Gary
I havent tried them in my towers but they are deep enough.
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I've already harvested one crop of potatoes, got another one growing well, and am ready to start one more tub.
Im going to keep them going and take notes. I want to see how long I can do this.
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You are an Excellent teacher Gary. I learned SO MUCH. i grabbing some EARLY potatoes today! Thank You!!!
Very appreciated. Worth trying now and in August for a later fall crop
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I just harvested my reds and had no idea I could still plant another crop for fall 😱 off to replant a couple back 😂
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It's still in the 80's here in Valdosta, Ga
I think you have time for outdoor growing.
Wow, seemed like a TON of fertilizer and care for potatos compared to other pros that put them in loose ground and ignore until harvest. Thanks for sharing!
Planting more this weekend as soon I harvest these other 4 containers.
I am planting these bags and some again later July.
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Thanks to this video, I started planting potatoes (early) 3-4 times in my home in a container under grow lights..my friends are grateful as I rarely eat postatoes due to my diabetes-I just LOVE growing potatoes..Thank you for sharing this..I have watched this video a few times over the past year-every time I go to plant potatoes.
Thank you so much for this video. I missed buying potatoes in the spring so I sprouted 4 small red potatoes under my sink a few weeks ago and today I planted them in a 10 gallon grow bag. I put them in the my garden under a shade cloth for now because it's suppose to be in the higher 90° this week. I only had the Plant Tone and the 511 and potting mix. I followed your instructions and I'm hoping for a great harvest. My frost date is not until November 10th zone 8a Va so I have plenty of time. It's only 2 of us in my household so hopeful that will be enough until I can sprout more. I have some white potatoes under my sink now. Again thank you 😊
Sounds like a good idea I always thought that potatoes were a cool weather crop hope you get lots of potatoes
Thanks
Man Gary, in central Texas it’s nearly harvest time.
Cool. You can certainly plant for a fall crop.
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Since I have my Urban Worm Bag up and running I'll be using a cup or two of worm castings at the bottom third along with the granular. Then worm castings as a top dressing.
Thank you. I just planted a second planting a week ago in the ground with straw over top. My first plantings are not ready yet. Hopefully by mid July and again early September.
I am going to keep them rolling
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I hope you’ll do a video when you harvest these 😊
I will be for sure
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I followed your method last year and had a great harvest from 3 -10 gallon bags. (My 1st time ever growing potatoes) It was so much fun, this Spring I planted 8 -10 gallon bags. I just harvested those and they did fantastic! I’m getting ready to plant the fall potatoes so I came here to refresh my memory.
I read a comment on another thread about a grandfather who would “stomp down” the stalks of his potatoes about 1 month before harvest. Here’s what I experienced with my Spring crop… the 2 bags at the end of my row looked like something had wallered them down. Probably Mother Nature since we’ve had some rather heavy rains. I tried to blame my cat, but realized he was innocent, so I let him live. (that’s just a joke. I would never hurt my cat.) What I did notice was that the potatoes in those 2 bags were the bigger potatoes. Not huge, but bigger than the other 6 bags. I did plant 3 potatoes, or pieces in each bag so I wasn’t expecting them to be big. However, I do plan to bend the stalks on this next planting to see if they all product larger potatoes. This planting will be Yukon Gold and only 2 potatoes per bag, so not expecting anything huge.
I wanted to share that with your viewers because I thought it was rather interesting. Thank you for your simple and easy way of gardening. And I love seeing your hands in the dirt without gloves. That’s exactly how I garden!
I just harvested my potatoes and discovered that they were eaten by grubs 🤬 they eat all my root vegetables it is so frustrating. Can you make a video about how to deal with underground insects?
Thk you! I am a first time.....potato grower!! I enjoy so much your videos on.....all gardening. I always Like and Subscribe.....of course. Much appreciation......to you from me. Ahna USA
Thanks so much and good luck with potatoes
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You explained the process well. I am ready to plant some potatoes in large grow bags. I enjoy your channel so much. This is my first year for a garden. I’m doing it all in containers. It’s a real learning experience. I’m hoping for greater yields next year. I will say my tomatoes have NOT had blossom end rot. At least I’m doing something right with my tomatoes.
Thanks. You will enjoy potatoes growing. And congrats on your first yea. I still learn.
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I have not successfully grown potatoes to any extent. I have tried. But now I feel prepared! Thank you.
Keep them watered!
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With current extreme heat wave love to hear how u know how much water and ongoing fertilizer. tu
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I am in Manitoba, Canada - so zone 3! I also have very poor clay soil, so most of my gardening is in containers. My tomatoes do incredibly well in 5 gallon pails! Cucumbers thrive in 3 gallon ice cream buckets!
I have been growing potatoes in 10 and 15 gal. green vinyl growing bags. I have used Yukon Gold, fingerling, and Red Norland. I use potting mix (peat base) with added bone and blood meal and fertilize every two weeks with a Water soluble “potato fertilizer” 6-16-12 and some organic sea magic. Lots of water. For three years I have got tons of luxuriant top growth, a few blooms, but only a few scattered potatoes. Maybe six or seven med spuds per bag.
One site source said the soil could get too hot in the sun, another that I may have planted too many seed potatoes and they sense they are overcrowded. (I have planted more per bag this year as I tried two layers instead of filling gradually.) I would appreciate any thoughts! Keep up the great videos!
Thanks for the book support. You have great temps for smaller container. That is rare. So glad you are having success Not sure on the potatoes but I would stop the water soluble but for 1x at planting. And get rid of the blood meal. Bone meal and any other basic organic granular with NPK represented. Blood meal is too much nitrogen IMO. For potatoes that is. I would also experiment. 1 bucket with few, 1 over crowded and the others as you normally do. Stick one in a shadier place. But I think its excess nitrogen.
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Great explanation, there are so many videos but they confused me, thank you
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I was just thinking of doing this in my root pouches, thanks for this. I'm in 5b so I'm not sure if I'll have time, but I have nothing to loose!
Good luck
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I’m in 4b! I want to try a second round too - who knows!?!
@@sinisterfoxy Check your frost date. Google it. If you have 70-90 days (planting early potatoes) until that date, you’re good to go.
I'm new to your channel but I already am happy with your content. I have potatoes that I bought from the grocery store for eating, not growing. I lost track of how old they were and they did what comes naturally- eyes everywhere. I planted them in a large Styrofoam container where I poked holes in the bottom. I live in Wisconsin so I know they won't be ready before freezing so I'm planning on bringing them in the house to finish growing. I'm hoping that I can cure them in the house.
Potatoes half grown are tasty too. Good luck,
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Here I am freaking out because I won’t be able to plant before I leave on a trip for a week and it will be later than I thought I should here in NC. Now I’m not too worried.
You have time.
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Oh yes, green beans and small new potatoes are the best. I'm in Indiana and I always try to plant my first potatoes on Good Friday. Always works out for me. This year potatoes have shown great production in my raised beds. So for I've pressure canned 16 pints and 14 quarts. Still have 4 inground 20 foot rows to dig up. I do have some in 7 gallon grow bags. 2 potatoes in each at planting, so so dry. In the bags with potatoes you need to water water water.
The best! Cheers to the water water water.
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thank you for your instructional videos. They are fantastic: short, to the point, full of factual information. Could you please comment if potatoes need full sun, or would they tolerate part shade? Thank you.
Thanks so much. I find the do best in 8 hours or more of sun. But I would experiment. Depends a lot on what time of day you get the sun.
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Hi, You are doing fine gardening. I live it. You can use homemade organic fertilizer for your plant. I am ensuring you will get a good result. I am making and using it. Getting more tomatoes, strawberry, eggplants etc
Thanks
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Few things we do...we use hard sided large nursery pots we got via free cycle then drill large (2”) holes with a spade but in the bottom AND the sides just above where it meets the bottom then bury the pots in a 3-4” deep trench to give the roots room to run down thru into good soil. Also make sure to have a plan to support your greens, they grow MUCH larger & healthier due to the increased airflow. We also hit em with worm tea at least twice a season if not more..replenish the microbiology in the soil in those pots...
Nice very good tips. I have some sunken containers I use for peppers. I might set something up like that for potatoes as you described.
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I pulled and ate my bucket of red norlands yesterday. I maybe should have let them look dead for a couple more weeks. Sow sow harvest. But delicious
They are so good. I pull some early. I let some sit 2 weeks after they yellow and dry. I found the biggest factor is lots of water while they are growing
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EXCELLENT video! Going to do this on my cucumbers! How often do you plant new cucumber plants, and do you plant beside the older plants?
I planted already but should be planting a second wave since I have time
This is right on time. I was hoping I get potatoes in but figured I was too late. So I have a pepper raised bed and 2 20 gallon fabric pots beside it. Since they’re both nightshade but in separate soil can I put the potatoes in the fabric pots that are next to the pepper bed? We’re in Anne Arundel Co.
I wish I had seen this earlier. Oh well, there's always next year. We'll see what happens with what I did this year. Thanks.
Yep. Try, see what happens, try again. It all works out
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Where are you? You can always try now and just harvest new potatoes before frost. :)
@@timgleason2527 I'm in WA, getting ready for a massive heat wave....after weather in the 60's it's going to go into the 100's!!! No wonder my plants are confused. I just might try another crop though. Thanks for the suggestion.
I did an experiment last fall. In mid October, I planted 5 potatoes that had sprouted in a raised bed and they came up this spring no problem. Having survived my -15 F Chicago winter. I will see how the yield is after harvest but from the previous year when missed potatoes popped up, the yield on them was better than the spring planted potatoes. If the yield on these fall planted potatoes is good, I might do a bigger planting of them this fall.
I had some do that too. I would be interested to see how they yield does as perhaps the root system get much larger. Worth experimenting for sure.
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Interesting! I’m in Northern Michigan and would love to try overwintering potatoes. Did you cover the bed with straw or anything?
@@sinisterfoxy The only cover on the soil was from the neighbor's pine trees dropping pine needles onto the bed. So maybe 1/8 to 1/4 inch layer of pine needles. I did plant them deep. About 7 to 8 inches down. I will reply back here after harvest which should be around mid August.
I planted potatoes for the first time ever. I live in the Deep South so it’s warm already. I was afraid it was too late to plant but I had so many store bought potatoes that were nicely sprouted. I planted them less than a month ago and they are growing like crazy. Do you recommend liquid fish fertilizer? If so, how often do you recommend I put it on them?
I love your channel and my garden is going great even though I’m new at it. I was a first time gardener last year but I’m really going a lot bigger this year. Got a Greenstalk planted
also. Your channel has helped me so much.
I usually do a lot of compost and granular for them before planting. They tend to be heavy feeders of P and K too. I would give them some FE now and try and look for a soluble that has more P and K for future feedings.. But if that is all you have 2x a month unless you prepared the soil well, then 1x a month. Glad to help and congrats on getting started.
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Hi Gary love your video's. My question is can I grow potato and sweet potato in the same 100 gallon pot? Thanks
Well you could but potatoes finish up in like 70 or 80 days. Sweet Potatoes take a lot longer and get harvested in the fall.
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Hello! I just rewatched this as I'm getting ready to plant my potatoes. You were stressing "early" potatoes. What makes them an "early" potato? How can I tell? Is it a type, such as Kennebec, or Yukon Gold?? Thank you so much for your help!!
Early means you harvest early. That's it. If you don't, you'll have regular potatoes
I think it’s the potatoes that mature in about 70 days. His early point was that if you grow these you can harvest every 70-80 days year round. Other potatoes average 90-100+ and are generally “mid season” and “late” harvest potatoes.
I tried potatoes for the first time the end of last year, red potatoes. Didn’t realize you can grow them in the heat of summer. Although I am in South Florida it is pretty hot and humid and we do get a lot of rain in the summer typically. Maybe I’ll give it a whirl and see what happens
It might be to hot. But you don't know till you try things in your garden and take notes.
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I'm learning so much. Can't believe I haven't founbd your channel before now. So when do you add water soluble fertilizer & how often?
Depends on how you prepared the soil but rule of thumb is every 14 days.
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I'm relieved I can still plant now, as I was not ready to earlier. But I also have main crop potatoes chitting, ready to plant. What happens with those? Will I still be able to harvest potatoes? Do the tubers ripen in any way or will they just be smaller if not allowed to grow the full 100 days? I live in Wales - mild but damp, so no problem with frost until well into winter, but blight could be a problem.
Hi Gary, thanks for the great video. I am following it step by step for potato planting in my fall garden down here in FL (10a). Quick question: when you watered the chitted potato starts at the end, what did you use? I thought it was a diluted fish fertilizer but wanted to clarify. Love your videos, they have been a Godsend for my adventure in container and raised bed gardening down here. All the best to you!😊
I dont recall but dilute or full strength FE is fine for that first watering. Good luck and very glad to help
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When using the granular fertilizer and bonemeal, do you use it in your bottom six inches of mix and again at the top of the mix once the root pouch is filled? And for the water soluble fertilizer can I use that up until my time of harvest? Can I use the Alaska fish fertilizer or Alaska morebloom? Thankyou for really making this so easy I enjoy watching your videos😊
Yes on granular on both halves. Fish fertilizer is fine. You can use it as you wish. How often depends on how well they soil was set up and all that. But lots of wiggle room.
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are you able to over winter the soil in the bag? -If so, come next spring, is it just a matter of adding a couple handfuls of compost and bone meal, etc -mixing it all up and planting the taters ?
Or should the soil be dumped into the garden, or used in a compost pile at the end of the season??
I do and just refresh it in the spring
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Someone had suggested using thick black trash bags instead of grow bags (with small drain holes poked in at the bottom). Are grow bags that much better? Thanks!
Love this one, thx. Will you teach us about aerated static composting? How much easier it’s creation is compared to the old manual rotation methods. Please share why this Biodiverse Compost helps create resilient crops, according to Elain Engam Food Soil Web, founder.
it’s worth looking into. Im a handyman with a leaf blower, a tarp and a garden hose. Making high value Biodiverse compost.
So that sounds cool. I would have to learn about what exactly that is and how to do it.
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I don't use pelletized fertilizer only organic manure mixes and other top dressings for tomatoes and peppers. Can you use manure that is already broken down like you buy at garden supply centers?
As long as it is fully composted it is good stuff.
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Hi, Gary! Can you list the names of the early potatoes? I think a few are Yukon Gold, Red Gold, Red... Where you buy the Red Gold potatoes. I've never seen them and they look great. Also, I garden on my rooftop in zone 7B. So, everything is in planters or raised beds. Thanks so much! ~Natalie
Hello. So I dont have al list but I use Yukon gold and Pontiac Red.
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Gary thank you for this information. I have some chitter seed potatoes, however, I’m in Houston. Is it ok to plant them now here?
The heat might be too much but I would take notes. And give it a try. Maybe a shadier area.
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So how does this adding all the fertilizers compare to the Ruth Stout method of just throwing potatoes on the ground and covering with straw? Your spuds look fabulous, but so do the ones grown without any fuss ?
Depends on your ground. IF it is is well compost and good, tossing works. But over time you can lose nutrients. In containers each harvest takes a lot out so you have to replace it.
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Thank you Gary. Can I mix 50% peat moss and 50% organic potting mix?
You can. Potting mix has a lot of peat already so maybe do 25% peat and see how it looks first
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Awesome video! I planted fingerling potatoes in your 100 gallon root pouch. Plants are huge and fabulous. But sadly, I believe fingerlings are "late" potatoes - which means we have a while. :) I'll do early next time. Also - I've read recently that "hilling" only helps potatoes stay protected from sunlight as they grow; the idea of hilling to increase growth on the stem and increase overall yield is a myth. Your thoughts? Thanks as always!
I found hilling confusing. Some varieties grow out from stem. But I found a lack of good information so I decided to focus on early types. I am going to research it more.
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If you dont mind me asking ....How much soil did you use for the 100 gallon pouch ?
What do you do with the planting mix after you harvest?
I refresh with organic granular fertilizer and reuse it.
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I am a beginner potato grower and the potatoes I have been getting have all been really small I am in north fl and i use a mixture of my own soil and compost from my compost pile , as they grow i add more of the soil mix and water every day if we get no rain, I add some mulch when the bucket is getting full (I mainly use 5/10 gallon containers) with one or two potatoes in the 5 gallon and 3 or 4 in the 10 gallon. When the plant has died then I harvest. What do you recommend I do differently to help my potatoes grow? Thank you so much!
Adding phosphorous and potassium to the area really makes a difference
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I haave red norlanders and yukon gold-so what are early potatoes?
I’m growing in containers as you suggested in this video. I don’t have yard soil. Can I use regular potting mix instead of earth and follow the rest of your video ?
Any potting mix works well. Just a loose soil.
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Gary, is the potash you're using a 0-0-60 and also is it possible to get potato seeds or is the potato the seed? Thanks again for everything you do.
Yeah that potash is 0 0 60. Not needed but use lightly if you want to test it out. You can buy seed potatoes. Might be out so season though. However. actually seeds are different. I would look up Clancy variety for seeds. They are an AAS Winner and I have had good success germinating them.
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Or maybe I could move them inside/grow light when it starts getting too cold until they harvest
That would work best.
Once I harvest the potatoes currently growing in my grow bag, can I use the same soil and bag for the next batch?
Yep but you need to refresh it with organic fertilizer and compost if you have it.
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So if I go into the grocery store to buy -otatoes for planting how do I know if they r early or not?
You don't but most are. If they have a clear name you can look it up. Often they are red Pontiacs
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Make sure they are organic. The nonorganic are sprayed to prevent sprouting. My organics always have sprouts before I can get through a whole bag. 😄
Thanks got some in the ground
it looks so easy, but I hope this process is easier than house plants ... I cant seem to keep mine pest free and thriving 😔
Worth giving it a try
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Can I plant potatoes in a bucket and use a grow light right now in Zone 8b down south ga. And grow them in my Xtra room?
I dont know. I never did. If you 75 days or so before frost, you can try outside.
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What is a good liquid organic fertilizer for root crops?
I just use what I showed you but More Bloom is organic. 0-10-10. Or any type like Miracle Gro.
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Do you recommend using potting mix that has wood pieces in it we didn't realize it had that in it so we mixed it with other soil ?
It works. I recommend making it. Just don't pay a lot for the bag stuff. Get what is on sale. Most bagged stuff all have wood. The best, no wood, is ProMix products. I work with them.
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I'm in zone 8a in TX...for some reason I never thought I could grow those types of potatoes in our summer heat. Sweet potatoes are usually recommended and do very well around here. So there's no downside to growing early potatoes in 90F-100F temps? I'm always up for a challenge 😀 but only if it's worth it... 😁
So it is worth an experiment. Maybe the heat will be too much but you probably can grow 3/4 of the year around there. Just take notes. You don't know till you try. Maybe some shade cloth. Only downside is they need lots of water.
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Thanks Gary; I had the same question about my California 9b heat!
@@melissasullivan1658 me too! Good to know!
@@melissasullivan1658 I'm in 9B also, Yucaipa mountain foothills. I'm going to miss the early spring planting but I'm going to try planting some in late April or early may. Wish us luck.
@@markavant5046 This is the first year that I’ve ever started ANYTHING early enough - we usually go from winter to early summer in about a month, so I’m always feeling like I’m missing my 9b growing window. It’s definitely a challenge!
Gary. We live in Central Florida, 9b zone. I was thinking of planting potatoes in small (3, 15gal bags), rolling batches ( about every 20 days) what are your thoughts? I had good results in south central Texas with rolling 60 day plantings of brown russett potatoes and didn't plant any December through mid February.
I would do every 4 weeks but the idea sound good. Especially if you had success. I dont know how hot it is but the might delay things or shade cloth might help. But I would do it and take notes on dates you plant and see how they compare.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Thank you! I'll try a 4 week rotation and see how that works. Sounds like a good idea. As far as fertilizer and pest management, I am using pretty much the same things you have shown in your videos. I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Thank you very much!
I’m growing potatoes for the first time this year. I bought 2 kinds of seed potatoes and they are planted in 17 gallon buckets. I also took a store bought one and planted it in a 5 gallon bucket. I think that one is ready to harvest. Can I reuse that soil and plant more potatoes in it?
Yes. Just reamend the soil a bit. Gary has several videos on how to do this.
Yeah just reuse and add lots of new organic fertilizer. Maybe some peat to loosen it up. Lots of ways to do it.
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If you are using bad raised bed mix should you mix in Peat moss to that?
You can use bagged stuff but I make mine and add peat
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Can you use bananas for potassium?
You can but you need a lot for increasing the potassium significantly in a short period. Over time they are great in compost piles.
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Just curious why so little potash?
Do they need light when they are still under the soil, or just when they grow leaves?
Just for leaves really
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Should you leave mature potatoes in the soil if it’s going to rain? Or will that make them sprout?
They will sprout eventually but you have time.
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If you plant 6 potatoes in a 20 gal grow bag, approximately how many potatoes does rhat yield? I've never grown potatoes before.
I dont know as it depends. But 25 to 50 wouldnt be a surprise.
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I missed March and April. I didn't know that I still had time to plant potatoes. When do I plant sweet potatoes?
Depends on what growing zone you're in. If your zone is 7 and above, planting usually happens in May--but you can still plant now since it's still early for a fall harvest.
My sweet potatoes went in last month. They aren't related btw. They need like 110 days of growth time.
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@@ambreewilliams6585 thank you. I'm in zone 8. This is my first year growing them and I thought I had missed the time slot. I want to try since it's my first year.