The main problem with these mantras is that they are so hard to read especially the blood mantras I'd say if they had better readability and were less flashy they'd be more balanced
nah fr though... i fought an iron requiem bloodrend and i cannot fathom how fast his mantras were...blood orb might as well be unparryable bc of insignia and scarlet cyclone doesnt stop hitting u after 3 parries and bloodcurdle still ISNT ventable...ironsing does nothing but immobilize you along with chainwarden. On top of that, one thing i realized is that these type of builds are only seen in lower elo (below 900) which is funny because this shows that they aren't able to get above 890. All im trying to say is that deepwoken is now a game where players cant have a fight where its all about skill but about who can make their opponent turn into a punching bag first
Nah don't get me started on chainwarden I swear it just breaks ur knees and u can't move at all AND WHAT THE HELL IS THAT BLOOD MOVE WHERE THEY LIKE TWIST UR BODY AND U CANT MOVE I HATE IT
to be honest i miss when the game where skill based, it was like 10 or 8 months before ironsing release when skill was a thing, like you could get any build even the noob ones and if you know how to play you will make that build untochable, now it just has become "who has the best build" i was using a build that required a lot of skill to play with and i was loosing to cheese, so i decided to copy pro players playstyle making katana,frostdraw,jetstriker and i got a lot of elo but a LOT and then i realised that my main build is useless even tho i put effort on making it, all we have to do is use the same oaths and weapons in order to be able to fight back, otherwise your build is garbage and you will always loose
Flamecharm:has too huge hitboxes Frosdraw: true combo mantras Bloodrend: should i say any thing? Thundercall: god of movestacking and hide anims Galebreath: god of unreactable + sometimes free dmg mantras Ironsing: nerf metal turrets Shadowcast: i just hate this attunement it has TOO MANY ISSUES. For example if u pick fear u getting passive effect that your opponents cant react, bc U JUST Cant See IT, 2nd like half of all mantras u can be modify to 100% hit your opponents or they have autotracking, u can stun u can drain ether u can heal ether u can make your opponents blind, your mantras can hide your anims(shade wisp btw) and all its nerf for last 6 months is: if u modify shadow eruption on size it will be little less in size.
its crazy how parry trading became the villain... if you notice montages mostly are combos because they rely on builds that looks good. the real looking good clips are actually parrying attacks and dodging and proves you are actually good without builds.
@@snxwmn theres only a few top players that is actually good at parry trading like cladrum. since saintsworn got added feels like no one is going to parry trade like forever...
graceful flame's healing dates back to verse 1. A lot of people know about it's healing, it's just that people don't want to waste a mantra slot or 2 extra talent spaces for it because it won't fit how they want their build. Unless the build specifically revolves around graceful flame, nine times out of ten people won't grab it as a part of their build.
When everything is busted... Nothing will be. Deepwoken shall be roblox's BEST KUSOGE!!!!
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most of the reason why there are so much unbalanced stuff in the game is because of other devs that release this stuff and testers that don't want it nerfed. I saw vids and stuff that some devs and tester LITERALLY don't say anything about unbalanced things because it's fun to abuse overpowered stuff and the community basically have no say in these types of stuff because arch mage is too busy and the devs/testers keep it broken because they want to abuse mechs and mechanics in the game to have an advantage over other players
Mage builds when their entire HP bar melts against my build. (I run Curse of the Unbidden on Relic Axe) already an unused enchant, on a unused weapon already... and these boosted mf's still have the audacity to cry..
Idk if it's just me but when ice daggers shoots the projectiles deadass just disappear and I have to predict parry based on distance when they used it and its also impossible to tell when they feint it because of this and when it lands i just get frozen into a true combo
Make it so you cannot roll during the whole duration of chill or you cannot jump or slide during the whole duration of chill. If you guys think that FREEZE CARRIES frostdraw you are dead wrong
@@speedlife735 being frozen doesnt really decrease how much damage you take while frozen and lasts way too long for something that disables your vents, yeah youre barely gonna get frozen in fights but the time you get frozen it more than makes up for it
Most of people who using "overpowered" mantras don't even have straight arms and if you got catched well that just a skill issue, but the real problem now is macro and movestacks.
Ice hate is mental, saint jay hasn’t worked in a year, it either literally never works or it only works at very specific times, and if you get block broken by ice smash that’s just a skill issue dawg, rising wind got reworked
saint jay just got fixed, ice smash is a brutal mixup for most players, you get free healing, free defense, free stuns with icedaggers, and a crazy fast mantra
In this vidio guy was saying about it does True COMBO, u know what this mean? This is mean that if u miss a SINGLE hit by this mantra u will loose 2 bars. If u will get hit by gb mantras on another attunemets u always can parry next hit but ice samsh with eruption just give u 1 more free hit.
@@deltaowjack of all trades master of everything. you want lockdown? attunementless has every mantra under the sun needed. you want absurd damage? you can just enchant something and get it for no extra cost. you want speed? thats right you go attunementless. and on top of that you just get a free 600 hp for no cost
@@deltaow Try doing the same thing without using a hero blade, attunement-less has an entire arsenal of weapons, there is a reason attunement-less is meta
I remember seeing a video talking about ice climbers and wobbling and design choices referring to it as a gun of should you give everyone else the gun of wobbling? or take it from the character that has it and so far it seems like they're taking the former option rather than the latter for a lot of things in the game
That's just the game not testing their shit, but if we put bloodrend, metal turret, and bugs behind us, attunementless is EASILY the most broken shit in the game. Always has and always will be.
so many things you missed also SH movestacking/posers cheese rising thunder movestacking/gaurdbreaking at level 1 bloodcurdle still not being ventable gale having unpunishable + empowering feints gale and thunder having modes (specter/lightninig cloak) which makes playing against them unplayable as they can s hold unbelievably fast while also having tps(which movestack as you showed) maging in general is still op (full damage) which makes flame and shadow extremely op in ganks and just to add this in: silentheart isnt even good in top chime bc its lack of mixups and utility especially against lightning cloak and specter path where you cant even get on top of them
tbf most of these cc effects would be efficient if it is usable on mobs if this game was originally a pve game, but this game is turning to pvp mess which makes the game hard to balance as well
already said ts, they all need to be reworked accordingly to one specific gameplay mechanic (Movement,True Damage,High Armor Resistance,Stun/Crowd Control, ect) and counter each other in a circle, while also having a built in mechanic that counters their counter only with specific requirements to help the “better player” win a losing match-up
I won't lie silentheart is the last hope for this game and its balance it's the only balanced thing in the game with attunement less being just as overpowered as the other attunements
inteque made a video titled the "Truth about saint jay" and i looked in the updates channel and I have seen nothing or fix in the updates channel since.
please add more to ironsing, i was easily able to push 100+ elo with a non shrine iron requim contractor witj 480 hp, every mantra had to much cheese or range
ngl i really hope they dont nerg lords tithe to harshly bc ive been using it to lockdown medium attunementless builds and its funny to watch them cry about how they cant mantra spam and true combo
so basically fire forge has instant pullout so when he parried he sent it out instantly and got hit by it slow it down to 0.25x you'll see why its very op
@@ZZendeta strength is very strong but attunementless in general is pretty balanced imo, only high damaging and anoying to deal with mantra is skyshatter, all the others are pretty much only useful in combos
@@JJJJOOONNNN Most meta builds are attunement-less, you can get almost every talent in the game without any drawback since the mantras are extremely well rounded
100 likes on tis comment and i only drop these kinds of vids. (no more tages)
As a frost main who doesn’t use ice eruption or ice smash I can confirm that everyone else who plays ice uses these 2 mantras
Ironsing has an attunement is balanced but there's one shit that shouldn't exist and it's Jailer.
The main problem with these mantras is that they are so hard to read especially the blood mantras I'd say if they had better readability and were less flashy they'd be more balanced
nah fr though... i fought an iron requiem bloodrend and i cannot fathom how fast his mantras were...blood orb might as well be unparryable bc of insignia and scarlet cyclone doesnt stop hitting u after 3 parries and bloodcurdle still ISNT ventable...ironsing does nothing but immobilize you along with chainwarden. On top of that, one thing i realized is that these type of builds are only seen in lower elo (below 900) which is funny because this shows that they aren't able to get above 890. All im trying to say is that deepwoken is now a game where players cant have a fight where its all about skill but about who can make their opponent turn into a punching bag first
Nah don't get me started on chainwarden I swear it just breaks ur knees and u can't move at all AND WHAT THE HELL IS THAT BLOOD MOVE WHERE THEY LIKE TWIST UR BODY AND U CANT MOVE I HATE IT
U know that deepwoken should be a game that based on reactiob, not on prediction your opponents
@@Bugman45564Bloodcurdle should't do posture dmg.
@@Bread18568 i wont be able to react to someone launching 9 mantras in the matter of nanoseconds
I'm realizing part of the problem is people encouraging usage of movestacks
Flame for underused is insane must be a new jersey thing
to be honest i miss when the game where skill based, it was like 10 or 8 months before ironsing release when skill was a thing, like you could get any build even the noob ones and if you know how to play you will make that build untochable, now it just has become "who has the best build" i was using a build that required a lot of skill to play with and i was loosing to cheese, so i decided to copy pro players playstyle making katana,frostdraw,jetstriker
and i got a lot of elo but a LOT and then i realised that my main build is useless even tho i put effort on making it, all we have to do is use the same oaths and weapons in order to be able to fight back, otherwise your build is garbage and you will always loose
nah it was always who had the best build it never changed
brother, I've been playing since release... it was never skill based.
@@OfficialTLTYSI disagree
it was never skill based, back then people just never knew which one is more busted that's all. when they found out they started abusing.
@@christopheraboah4530 wanna see a verse 1 clip with people spamming mantras with 50 stratus stones on it and a hit kill flame repulsion
and we thought this game was fried a year ago LMAO
Something: Being good
People: OVERPOWERED!!
define good and overpowered
Flamecharm:has too huge hitboxes
Frosdraw: true combo mantras
Bloodrend: should i say any thing?
Thundercall: god of movestacking and hide anims
Galebreath: god of unreactable + sometimes free dmg mantras
Ironsing: nerf metal turrets
Shadowcast: i just hate this attunement it has TOO MANY ISSUES. For example if u pick fear u getting passive effect that your opponents cant react, bc U JUST Cant See IT, 2nd like half of all mantras u can be modify to 100% hit your opponents or they have autotracking, u can stun u can drain ether u can heal ether u can make your opponents blind, your mantras can hide your anims(shade wisp btw) and all its nerf for last 6 months is: if u modify shadow eruption on size it will be little less in size.
its crazy how parry trading became the villain... if you notice montages mostly are combos because they rely on builds that looks good. the real looking good clips are actually parrying attacks and dodging and proves you are actually good without builds.
thats literally so real, i feel like people are scared of parry trading. especially with this heavy meta it seems impossible to get a parry trade now.
@@snxwmn theres only a few top players that is actually good at parry trading like cladrum. since saintsworn got added feels like no one is going to parry trade like forever...
@@tragicdays21 mage playstyle and passive dominates the meta rn
@ ong bro. even t250 cant parry trade against me and in comp cant parry too like wtf.
Cozmo.. this is getting out of hand… please help us through this time
the reality of deepwoken that is purgatory
I've just realized some things that seem completely like bugs are treated as features by the community
Hear me out, if everything is overpowered nothing is ;)
dont forget about the fact that all multihit moves are bugged right now and if u m1 feint into them theyre true
cozmo why is everything you drop absolutely fire, and i love the hunterxhunter sounding tts
ty bor
@@43cozmo ofc king
graceful flame's healing dates back to verse 1. A lot of people know about it's healing, it's just that people don't want to waste a mantra slot or 2 extra talent spaces for it because it won't fit how they want their build. Unless the build specifically revolves around graceful flame, nine times out of ten people won't grab it as a part of their build.
When everything is busted... Nothing will be. Deepwoken shall be roblox's BEST KUSOGE!!!!
most of the reason why there are so much unbalanced stuff in the game is because of other devs that release this stuff and testers that don't want it nerfed. I saw vids and stuff that some devs and tester LITERALLY don't say anything about unbalanced things because it's fun to abuse overpowered stuff and the community basically have no say in these types of stuff because arch mage is too busy and the devs/testers keep it broken because they want to abuse mechs and mechanics in the game to have an advantage over other players
the percival officer ran from my lvl 19 in depths
Death note musics goated
Mage builds when their entire HP bar melts against my build.
(I run Curse of the Unbidden on Relic Axe)
already an unused enchant, on a unused weapon already... and these boosted mf's still have the audacity to cry..
crazy that gale is the attunement with the least bs fighting wise, especially since rising wind is dead
4:32 This is the case for every fast multihit mantra though
thing about ice is the freeze, if it didnt have freeze it would be so much less anoying to fight against
Idk if it's just me but when ice daggers shoots the projectiles deadass just disappear and I have to predict parry based on distance when they used it and its also impossible to tell when they feint it because of this and when it lands i just get frozen into a true combo
Make it so you cannot roll during the whole duration of chill or you cannot jump or slide during the whole duration of chill.
If you guys think that FREEZE CARRIES frostdraw you are dead wrong
@@speedlife735 being frozen doesnt really decrease how much damage you take while frozen and lasts way too long for something that disables your vents, yeah youre barely gonna get frozen in fights but the time you get frozen it more than makes up for it
Sometimes the ice daggera just decide to freeze in the air also@Apple-xj2ss
only bad thing about freeze is that you have to press f to get out of it, which means you end up accidentally parrying
Most of people who using "overpowered" mantras don't even have straight arms and if you got catched well that just a skill issue, but the real problem now is macro and movestacks.
Deepwoken has basically reached a doomsday of unbalanced stuff
Ice hate is mental, saint jay hasn’t worked in a year, it either literally never works or it only works at very specific times, and if you get block broken by ice smash that’s just a skill issue dawg, rising wind got reworked
saint jay just got fixed, ice smash is a brutal mixup for most players, you get free healing, free defense, free stuns with icedaggers, and a crazy fast mantra
hows getting guardbroken by ice smash a skill issue when 90% of ice users are on daggers?? if they werent on daggers then fair enough.
In this vidio guy was saying about it does True COMBO, u know what this mean? This is mean that if u miss a SINGLE hit by this mantra u will loose 2 bars. If u will get hit by gb mantras on another attunemets u always can parry next hit but ice samsh with eruption just give u 1 more free hit.
@ ice smash is so bad that if it didn’t allow for true combos like this no one would ever use it, it’s good that it true combos
@PrysmicVoid ice smash is not a mix up for anyone above 600 elo, please get better, when did saint get fixed?
inspirational video from 42cozmo 🔥
And they say attunementless is busted….
It is lmao, all it's mantras have no downsides and you get hella points to spend
@ no status effects, no aoe, and the “hella points to spend” is a redundant argument. Attunements can do the exact same thing.
@@deltaowjack of all trades master of everything. you want lockdown? attunementless has every mantra under the sun needed. you want absurd damage? you can just enchant something and get it for no extra cost. you want speed? thats right you go attunementless. and on top of that you just get a free 600 hp for no cost
@@deltaow Try doing the same thing without using a hero blade, attunement-less has an entire arsenal of weapons, there is a reason attunement-less is meta
@@ZZendeta the meta is not attunementless bruh 💀💀💀 everyone in ganks and chime are abusing attunements and their broken passives/mantras
Unbalanced?!?! In my deepwoken?!? This place is nuts!
remember how in the weekly after ironsing they nerfed the shit out of all the unreactable shit? they just didnt do that with bloodrend i guess
I remember seeing a video talking about ice climbers and wobbling and design choices referring to it as a gun of should you give everyone else the gun of wobbling? or take it from the character that has it and so far it seems like they're taking the former option rather than the latter for a lot of things in the game
That's just the game not testing their shit, but if we put bloodrend, metal turret, and bugs behind us, attunementless is EASILY the most broken shit in the game. Always has and always will be.
so many things you missed also
SH movestacking/posers cheese
rising thunder movestacking/gaurdbreaking at level 1
bloodcurdle still not being ventable
gale having unpunishable + empowering feints
gale and thunder having modes (specter/lightninig cloak) which makes playing against them unplayable as they can s hold unbelievably fast while also having tps(which movestack as you showed)
maging in general is still op (full damage) which makes flame and shadow extremely op in ganks
and just to add this in: silentheart isnt even good in top chime bc its lack of mixups and utility especially against lightning cloak and specter path where you cant even get on top of them
I binged death note right before watching this and now I’m just confused lol
The problem with these mantras and stuff is that theres literally just better stuff than it anyway making them not as great
tbf most of these cc effects would be efficient if it is usable on mobs if this game was originally a pve game, but this game is turning to pvp mess which makes the game hard to balance as well
I fell asleep halfway in
irony
saint jay has never even worked in the 1st place dude
made it work like 3 weeks ago
Saint Jay has worked, just on specific mantras that was the issue
Gale ain’t all that anymore after the rising wind rework that does 2% and u can’t combo extend anymore with it
bro i love ironsing. Glory to IRONSING
video about attunements and the intro has a bug, m1 damage gun build and sightless beam
LOOL chill it was js the hook to keep ppl watching
already said ts, they all need to be reworked accordingly to one specific gameplay mechanic (Movement,True Damage,High Armor Resistance,Stun/Crowd Control, ect) and counter each other in a circle, while also having a built in mechanic that counters their counter only with specific requirements to help the “better player” win a losing match-up
Instant bloodrend mantras no roll casting and this shitty rising wind 💔
Dawnwalker could’ve been here if it wasn’t an oath 😢
I won't lie silentheart is the last hope for this game and its balance it's the only balanced thing in the game with attunement less being just as overpowered as the other attunements
Idk if its just me but I swear shadow eruption anims and parry timings don't line up at all
pretty sure saint jay is bugged with only 2 ice mantras being able to proc it
inteque made a video titled the "Truth about saint jay" and i looked
in the updates channel and I have seen nothing or fix in the updates channel since.
fun fact, lords tithe used to steal hp iirc
bloodshadow
Tranquil circle my beloved ❤
please add more to ironsing, i was easily able to push 100+ elo with a non shrine iron requim contractor witj 480 hp, every mantra had to much cheese or range
good choice of ost
thank u sir cozmos for no leaks on slidepact
only U use it so no point
@ good boy
im so glad im the only one that abuses true sightless beam
Flare volley is very underrated
i fw the death note sound tracks
The abuse of the song go crazy
i wanna make a video just like this but going into wayy more detail on why stuff like this is not good for deepwoken
flamecharm underused? this guy has NO idea what he's on about
If they are all op then doesnt that make them all balanced though?
amaziny video 🥹
id rather have a game where everything is unbalanced than one where only one thing is unbalanced yk
id rather everything be balanced doe
Wow good video
first 2 clips are things that arent even busted
4:16 bro is NOT in a anime
Was that the song from needlemouse productions
ngl i really hope they dont nerg lords tithe to harshly bc ive been using it to lockdown medium attunementless builds and its funny to watch them cry about how they cant mantra spam and true combo
whats the med none true combo and mantra spam 💀
attunementless biggest source of dmg comes from m1s
Remove all attunements and play cursed gear
Flamecharm and underused dont belong in the same sentence
wassup, can i edit your videos for you?
goated vid spread the word..
Ironsing is the worst attunement BECAUSE ITS BALANCED!! How did we get so low??
but the damage is high and is worth to go 100 ironsing
metal turrets:
COZMO IS THE BEST THANM YOU FOR THIS AMAZING VIDEO
goat
very nice video
Everything in this game is annoying, but shadow, shadow needs to be deleted
Can someone summarize what he said in the video I don't wanna listen to the ai voice
every attument has something that is unbalanced and needs to be tweaked
The game is just very unbalanced right now. That’s the only thing I complain about and quality update like I shouldn’t have to wait for dyes to spawn.
Save deepwoken... cozmo...!!
hi cozmo 🎉🎉🎉🎉
hi is
never strong enough to beat tale😢😢
dawg u died to a lionfish
deepwoken will be abandoned after conquest anyways
U so right
good video
deathnote soundtrack
leaking the methods
hey thats me
1:39 mods?
how is the fire forge clip unpariable?
so basically fire forge has instant pullout so when he parried he sent it out instantly and got hit by it slow it down to 0.25x you'll see why its very op
Assassin's and mages run the game
great
And then there was silentheart 😒
silentheart is fair compared to this LOL
Bruh delete the vid before ragoozer see this
Also metal turret is easy to counter just 🏃🏿♂️🏃🏿♂️🏃🏿♂️
why r all ur shadow thigns just bugs LOL
HATSUNE MIKU
IDEAL
Si amigo buff silentheart
No
No attunamentless?
not an actual attument
put me on the dev team
fr
how about attunement-less tho, if u count:/
Unbalanced of course
strongest in the game. jack of all trades master of everything
@@ZZendeta strength is very strong but attunementless in general is pretty balanced imo, only high damaging and anoying to deal with mantra is skyshatter, all the others are pretty much only useful in combos
@@JJJJOOONNNN Most meta builds are attunement-less, you can get almost every talent in the game without any drawback since the mantras are extremely well rounded
no? meta builds are stormseye jetstriker/ stormseye arcwarder, and having an attunement isnt a drawback
Compilation of skill issue
??💀☠
dude gale is so op cuz you can cancel fall dmg 😭
U can with flame and thunder too and kinda with ironsing
i knew that you can cancell fall dmg with flame too but THUNDER AND IRONSING?? HOW??
@@enderxd6839 if u use lightning assult before u hit the ground and it negates fall damage and iron skin can lessen fall damage by alot