I am happy you were able to get the rubber mount off so easily. On my 2012 Street Glide I didn't have that luck . I had to remove the horn mount from the engines and drill, saw and use a vise to remove the plate.
Ok I just bought these fans ( only the mighty mites by love Juggs) in chrome at the Delmarva Bike week . Had them professionally installed on the 16th September 2021 rode a little around Delmarva ,came home 3 and a half hours to North Carolina .Bike was filthy ( to me anyway). Decided to give it a wash before the sun went down and guess what the front fan Is now not working 🤔😳 Seriously . So I had to find the vendors e mail ( no phone number) in fact love Jugs gives a good write up but it's hard to get hold of anyone. Bearing in mind I checked out their website and watched your video , and others and they said they had a planned break for two weeks and that was three weeks ago. They don't seem to have a phone number either. Anyway I finally got in touch with the vendor and he apologized and I gave him my address so we'll see. Hey 💩happens but right now a bit disappointed.Just like to add I ain't bitch n just telling my tail of sorrow 🤔😂😎👍🇺🇸
Most Sportys do not need anywhere near the help running at the optimum temps that Twin Cams and M8's do. In the following video we talk about the optimum temperature for Sportsters, beginning at the 1:10 mark. ua-cam.com/video/rWOdQOtDv6A/v-deo.html If your Sporty is running ET's of hotter than 375 F, and/or oil temps more than 230 F, then it will benefit from cooling it down. See the following link for some options to get it cooled down to the optimum operating temp. www.dkcustomproducts.com/ultimate-sportster-heat-reduction.htm
You can relocate the coil, and used a coupler nut and a stud for also have the love jugs there. Here is a link to a photo of it done on a Softail, but it works exactly the same on the Tri Glide. www.dkcustomproducts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/stealth_breather_cc_softail_3.jpg
Some folks feel a little heat coming from the fans pushing the air....but for most it goes in and behind the right leg, and the overall heat radiating is less onto the right leg because the engine is running cooler.
I am not sure what bike you have, but the Oil Cooler will help your oil temps stay at a better temperature and the fans would be more beneficial for cooling your engine. They are both great options for cooling components! Here are two links to a two part report we've done on why and how to cool down your Twin Cam and M8 that you may find useful/interesting - www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm and www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm Please feel free to contact us with any questions; Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828 Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
Yes, and yes. Here is a video report showing testing and how much they cool down the bikes. ua-cam.com/video/2ruppXkp2CU/v-deo.html The reports showing how much they cool down the bike are in the video, you can also see the written reports at these links- www.dkcustomproducts.com/force-flow-fan-test-report.htm www.dkcustomproducts.com/shoptalk/cat/dknews/post/MMCF/
@@hdrider05 Everyone's sensitivity to heat is different. What is bad to one person, another person does not even notice. Depends on the bike, the weather, and the riding style also. Ideally you get the heat down with a plan, and the fans are part of that plan. The oil and engine should not be over 230 and very few people feel that it too hot for the fans blowing onto the right leg. Now, if the fans is all you do, and you have a bike running 270-300, that is going to feel a lot warmer. Here is a series of vides where we talk about the strategy we use at cooling them down- ua-cam.com/users/DKCustomProductsplaylists And if you prefer a written report, the info is at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
I just got a twin cam 96. Had multiple evos and a couple shovels. Did not realize how hot these newer motors got. Been looking at these mighty mites, $400 is pretty pricey... I guess it's cheaper than over heating could cost.
Yes, they are pricey, and also hard to get right now...they had a huge batch of them manufactured wrong and had to recall thousands of them. There are a lot of things that can be done to cool down the Twin Cams that are less expensive, check them out at the Report Link here- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
@@fxrmike5145 Yes, you can do both...that is where they really shine. www.dkcustomproducts.com/xied-vied-fuel-management-c121-240.htm And here is a video that goes into a bit of detail, specifically for your question, a bit after the 2 minute mark- ua-cam.com/video/gOeJ6Mx_mQo/v-deo.html
@@DKCustomProducts I really appreciate how you guys answer questions in the comments. There are a lot of channels that don't. I will be ordering one of the xieds from your website. I'll just drill some extra holes in stock air cleaner until I can afford to get a high flow from you guys as well. Thanks for the help
The probability is high that you would benefit from an oil cooler. Riding style and conditions can have a large affect on whether one is needed or not. They way to know for sure is to observe your oil temp while riding for at least 1 hour on a warm day at over 50 mph. Check it right then, not after 15 minutes of slower riding to get home or to a "spot". This is easily done with an oil temp dipstick. If the oil is over 230 F, then an oil cooler is recommended. If it is 230 F or lower, one is not needed. Feel free to email or call with any questions. Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828 www.dkcustomproducts.com/harley-davidson-softail-models-c151.htm
It is a much less high pitched sound, so does not sound nearly as loud. You can see a bit more on fans in this video - ua-cam.com/video/zmJmpdgBM3A/v-deo.html
Ever considered adding a switched power harness? You can find simple ones at Eastern Beaver. Tag a switched power wire, and never worry about switching fans on/off again.
Yes, I have considered that. However, I like to leave them running after stopping when its' been a long hot run. Also, there are times, especially this time of year, when it is in the 30's and 40's that I don't run them for shorter rides.
Thanks for the video. I don't know why Harley doesn't just install a fan as standard equipment at the factory. Seems like a necessary addition. The extra cost shouldn't make too much difference, and save a lot of headaches. Just my two cents worth.
Probably because they want people like DK Customs and Love Jugs to come up with stuff for you to customize. They probably want to leave the customizing to the rider.
@@DKCustomProducts your guys stuff is patented tho right? Harley doesn’t pay patent royalties for selling a product identical to other designs not theirs? I got done reading an article about some guy named Jason copying Love Jugs mighty mites or whoever copied whoever and Jason went out of business I guess. Which makes sense because if there was a patent, the copying party is obviously going to lose.
It is very rare to see a Sportster that needs any type of fan. The exceptions are: 1. Lots (1 hour plus) of stop & go traffic in 95+ heat 2. Heavy high speed runs that last for hours in 95+ heat Check out this video where we give the optimum temps for Sportys. ua-cam.com/video/rWOdQOtDv6A/v-deo.html
We do not have Mighty Mites on our website...perhaps you are talking about the Force Flow Fan seen at this link? www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm They will fit your 2023 Tri-Glide with a little creativity. Here is the fitment note: "M8 models that are Twin Cooled will have to have some creative placement of the Thermostat, or can be run with just the switch, not using the Thermostat" Here is a video showing how I installed it on my Tri-Glide, and the process is the same for yours- ua-cam.com/video/Hz7UgPMXO48/v-deo.html
It is not necessary. I've run these on Twin Cams and M8's with no frame mount. However, on a Touring Twin Cam there is more vibration, especially if you have aggressive cams, and in those instances a frame mount is preferred to isolate the unit from the vibration.
Three reasons- 1. Most importantly, they do not cool as well as the Mighty Mites. See report at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/shoptalk/MMCF/ 2. I don't like the looks of them 3. On a Twin Cooled bike you cannot install an oil cooler with the Cool Masters, but you can with the MM's
I wish I could help...we have no experience with that engine. But the principles of getting the most air flowing over the engine, not trapping any heat, and cooling the oil are good for all engines, across the board...at least enough to keep oil temps between 190-230 f.
Yes. Twin Cooled bikes can run hotter than oil cooled bike. We did a video on it that you can see here- ua-cam.com/video/6AhPqVlvE-w/v-deo.html Also, for the Twin Cooled, take a look at this cooling fan. Many like it better than the other ones. www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm Every bike is different, there are many strategies to get them cooled down to the Optimum Operating Temp. You can see a write up on what the optimum temps are and how to get there at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
I didn't see any Mighty Might on the DK Custom webpage...do you sell them? Also, how are the Mighty Might working on the Tri Glide? I have a 2018 Tri Glide and need some good fans to keep her cooled down during stop and go traffic. I have purchased your lift tank, floorboard extensions, etc., but still need some good fans and wondering if the Mighty Might works for you they should work for my Trike. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching our video and for contacting us. We do not sell the MM's, for a variety of reasons. However, if you do choose to use them, you can do so at the following link and we will receive a small referral fee- buylovejugs.com/?ap_id=DKKevin The Mighty Mites work very well, as does the Forceflow Fan. The MM's cool just a tad better than the FF, but the FF, to many, is better looking. In the Technical Info Tab at the following link you will see the test data- www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm I personally am switching to the ForceFlow Fan on my Tri-Glide. It cools great, and I like the look much better.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Isn’t your trike equipped twin cooled engine ? If so why would you need a mikey mouse job done ? Please make me understand 🤔
How much do they vibrate with engine running? i.e. A little, a whole lot, or not too bad? I know this is subjective, it really looks like a pain in the ass to go with the frame mount kit. I have 2021 TriGlide Ultra.Thanks.
You're correct, that is very subjective, since every bike vibrates differently. Probably the best way to know is that they will vibrate about the same amount that your horn vibrates. I have always used the horn mount, not the frame mount. I am on my 5th bike (1 Sporty, 3 Twin Cams, & 1 M8) and have not had a problem. But I do NOT run aggressive cams (which cause more vibration). I do know guys with aggressive cams and/or high compression and they cannot run on the horn mount, they have to use the frame mount.
It was/is not common. Their quality has been slipping the last couple of years, and we have stopped emphasizing them. However, even with the recent spotty problems, most folks do Not have any issues with them.
We've used the frame mount on one bike. It is a Stage IV with aggressive cams. On many (7) other bikes, that had stock or mild cams in them, we've used the horn mount with no problems. buylovejugs.com/?ap_id=DKKevin
Yes, vice grips work well, as long as you are going to be replacing the rubber isolator, because almost assuredly the rubber will end up compromised from the vice grips.
We recommend the Force Flow Fan or the Mighty Mites for any Twin Cam or M8 bike. The Mighty Mites have been hard to get...the Force Flow a little less hard. I will not run any of my TC's or M8's without one or the other. www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
@@DKCustomProducts thanks so much! My local shop here in Nova Scotia has the Cool Masters, larger than what I'd like but still hopefully cool down my 2012 heritage 😃🥵
FYI LoveJugs copied the design from Jason Ward of WardsFanWerks then they patented the design and threatened to sue Jason Ward. So Jason was SOL...and really pissed but nothing he could do legally so he was forced to stop selling his fans. Anyway I have had a set of Jason's fans for 5 years and they work fine. I have them set up on a thermal switch to start automatically at 185 degrees. I can bypass the thermal switch and have the fans work on the toggle switch also but I leave the thermal switch activated all the time. That way when I shut the bike off the fans keep running and help cool off the engine quicker then shut down automatically. I'm very happy with them.
Yep, and Jason is a Veteran also. The whole situation is sad. In addition to some Mighty Mites I am running, I also have two Wards Fans that are still going strong.
We do not carry them, we do recommend them, and if you get them at the following link we receive a small referral fee. buylovejugs.com/?ap_id=DKKevin We do carry the Force Flow Fan at the link below. It works almost as well as the Mighty Mite fans and many prefer the look of the FFF better. www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
I wired mine up and it keeps popping a fuse? And here's another ass kicker for you the fan is still operational, yes I'm scratched by noggin on that one.
Popping a fuse is usually an indicator of a short. Since the fans are still running after the fuse pops, then it is some other wire that is likely shorting out. See what the fuse that is popping powers, then trace the wires until you find the short. A lot of times when working on a bike, especially in close quarters, wires that are not even part of the work being done can get pinched.
We have some Customers running these on their 2021's. I don't believe there is a difference in the mounting position for the MM fans from 2017 thru 2021
I like the Idea of this all except one factor.The hot air to me is blowing by the fans from the left side to the right side on your right leg.Fans to me should be at the back of the rear cylinder sucking the air away from the rear cylinder,this will keep or minimize the hot air blowing from the left side. You did not comment on the air flow. Thanks for listening.Willie
When wearing short I can barely feel the air on the right leg. Wearing jeans I do not feel it. Since the overall temp of the engine is lower, the general heat radiated from the engine (which I do feel) is Less because of the lower overall temp. The fan pulling air off the rear cylinder and down has been tried. It will reduce felt heat for the passenger a small amount, but does not work well at reducing overall engine temps. See a full report on Engine Temps and what can be done at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
We have 3000 square feet of traditional slab building, which is completely utilized, we also have 2 shipping containers that are finished out that we use. This particular video is in Kevin's bike room that he has at his home.
Not really sure what you are talking about...seems like you did not complete watching the video? At the 14:53 mark in this video the install was completer and I turned the fans on. Also, we have another video, at the link below, where you can hear the fans on with the engine off, and with them on with the engine running. ua-cam.com/video/zmJmpdgBM3A/v-deo.html
Harley Davidson has been doing everything in the world to avoid liquid cooling their motorcycles, there is no reason in the world a motorcycle shouldn’t run like a car after all these years up till now in 2021. It appears now with the new revolution max engine that day is here and their is no going back.
It would seem that it is very close for HD ...they keep sticking their toe in the water of water cooled. The new Sportster-S will see if it turns out better than previous attempts. Here is an interesting video on the subject- ua-cam.com/video/mzzc-ydotOQ/v-deo.html
Not sure about that. I think they both are about the same loudness, maybe the FF is a bit quieter than the MM's. The MM's do a little better job at cooling the rear cylinder, not a lot, but a little. I have been using the MM type on my bikes for over 10 years, but am switching over to the FF just because of the looks and they are very effective. Here is a video where you can hear the MM's on my Softail with the engine off - ua-cam.com/video/zmJmpdgBM3A/v-deo.html
Turn up your speakers...there's sound throughout the video. If you're asking about the sound of the fans when they're on, go to the end of the video. At the 14:57 mark is when I turn on the fans, after the install is done.
@@jeffgilmore2081 Have you tried it on a different device? We've tested it on 3 different phones, and 6 different computers. All of them have good sound.
U really dont show how to install. U describe but dont really show what ur doing. I'm looking for a step by step how to. This was not it. Thanks anyway for ur contribution!
After reading your comment I watched the entire 15:43 video. Every step of the installation is covered. There is nothing more to it than that. If you want to wire it in to a switch on your dash...or use a thermal switch, that is not how this was installed. It was installed for controlling the fans with the switch located on the fans, and every single step of the install process is in this video.
DK get a real tec. to do the work this guy doesn't know how to use the correct tools ,wasts to much time, 30 min. to install your air cleaner assembly and now this WOW . lol
I heard sound all through out the video, great installation.
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Would have really like to see what you were doing, but your back was in the way. Thank God you weren't sweating
Yep, making videos is not as easy as making motorcycle parts for us. LOL But we are getting better. :)
I am happy you were able to get the rubber mount off so easily. On my 2012 Street Glide I didn't have that luck . I had to remove the horn mount from the engines and drill, saw and use a vise to remove the plate.
Yeah, sometimes they're stubborn...a little heat might break them loose...but I've also done the same you had to do.
Ok I just bought these fans ( only the mighty mites by love Juggs) in chrome at the Delmarva Bike week . Had them professionally installed on the 16th September 2021 rode a little around Delmarva ,came home 3 and a half hours to North Carolina .Bike was filthy ( to me anyway). Decided to give it a wash before the sun went down and guess what the front fan Is now not working 🤔😳 Seriously . So I had to find the vendors e mail ( no phone number) in fact love Jugs gives a good write up but it's hard to get hold of anyone. Bearing in mind I checked out their website and watched your video , and others and they said they had a planned break for two weeks and that was three weeks ago. They don't seem to have a phone number either. Anyway I finally got in touch with the vendor and he apologized and I gave him my address so we'll see. Hey 💩happens but right now a bit disappointed.Just like to add I ain't bitch n just telling my tail of sorrow 🤔😂😎👍🇺🇸
Man, that sucks. Sorry to hear of the problems. Customer Service can be an important component of any purchase.
you said not the Sportsers ..wonder why not ..but mainly twin cams & m8 good to know but my evo Sporster 1200 plenty hot in Georgia summers
Most Sportys do not need anywhere near the help running at the optimum temps that Twin Cams and M8's do. In the following video we talk about the optimum temperature for Sportsters, beginning at the 1:10 mark. ua-cam.com/video/rWOdQOtDv6A/v-deo.html If your Sporty is running ET's of hotter than 375 F, and/or oil temps more than 230 F, then it will benefit from cooling it down. See the following link for some options to get it cooled down to the optimum operating temp. www.dkcustomproducts.com/ultimate-sportster-heat-reduction.htm
What effect do the MM have onthe auto rear cylinder cut off when sitting in hot temp condition
The only affect would be that you engine is running cooler and EITMS may not engage as frequently.
I noticed you ran the wiring without removing fuel tank ( wires in tray). How did you route the wires between battery n fans?
Right along side the backbone, there are other wires there, on the left side of the backbone and just ran them alongside those.
Hi! Could you tell me what the CFM of the cooler fans used?
That is a good question. They do not publish the CFM.
I relocate the coil on my 2015 triglide and relocated the horn will the love jugs fit above the coil .
You can relocate the coil, and used a coupler nut and a stud for also have the love jugs there.
Here is a link to a photo of it done on a Softail, but it works exactly the same on the Tri Glide.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/stealth_breather_cc_softail_3.jpg
Dosent your right leg get hot with the air moving from left to right...
Some folks feel a little heat coming from the fans pushing the air....but for most it goes in and behind the right leg, and the overall heat radiating is less onto the right leg because the engine is running cooler.
Would you recommend this and the ultra oil cooling system?
I am not sure what bike you have, but the Oil Cooler will help your oil temps stay at a better temperature and the fans would be more beneficial for cooling your engine.
They are both great options for cooling components! Here are two links to a two part report we've done on why and how to cool down your Twin Cam and M8 that you may find useful/interesting - www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
and
www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
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662-252-8828
Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
Do they cool the bike down ?
Do the blow the hot air on ur right leg ?
Yes, and yes. Here is a video report showing testing and how much they cool down the bikes.
ua-cam.com/video/2ruppXkp2CU/v-deo.html
The reports showing how much they cool down the bike are in the video, you can also see the written reports at these links-
www.dkcustomproducts.com/force-flow-fan-test-report.htm
www.dkcustomproducts.com/shoptalk/cat/dknews/post/MMCF/
How bad is the heat onto ur right leg?
@@hdrider05 Everyone's sensitivity to heat is different. What is bad to one person, another person does not even notice.
Depends on the bike, the weather, and the riding style also.
Ideally you get the heat down with a plan, and the fans are part of that plan. The oil and engine should not be over 230 and very few people feel that it too hot for the fans blowing onto the right leg.
Now, if the fans is all you do, and you have a bike running 270-300, that is going to feel a lot warmer.
Here is a series of vides where we talk about the strategy we use at cooling them down- ua-cam.com/users/DKCustomProductsplaylists
And if you prefer a written report, the info is at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
I just got a twin cam 96. Had multiple evos and a couple shovels. Did not realize how hot these newer motors got. Been looking at these mighty mites, $400 is pretty pricey... I guess it's cheaper than over heating could cost.
Yes, they are pricey, and also hard to get right now...they had a huge batch of them manufactured wrong and had to recall thousands of them.
There are a lot of things that can be done to cool down the Twin Cams that are less expensive, check them out at the Report Link here- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
@@DKCustomProducts thanks, I like the idea of fooling computer with xied👍
@@DKCustomProducts can you change air cleaner and slip ons,both with xied? Or just mufflers?
@@fxrmike5145 Yes, you can do both...that is where they really shine.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/xied-vied-fuel-management-c121-240.htm
And here is a video that goes into a bit of detail, specifically for your question, a bit after the 2 minute mark-
ua-cam.com/video/gOeJ6Mx_mQo/v-deo.html
@@DKCustomProducts I really appreciate how you guys answer questions in the comments. There are a lot of channels that don't. I will be ordering one of the xieds from your website. I'll just drill some extra holes in stock air cleaner until I can afford to get a high flow from you guys as well. Thanks for the help
I have an oil relocation kit on by 2010 Fatboy stage 2. I'm installing a Jim's Force fan this week. You think I would need an oil cooler also?
The probability is high that you would benefit from an oil cooler. Riding style and conditions can have a large affect on whether one is needed or not. They way to know for sure is to observe your oil temp while riding for at least 1 hour on a warm day at over 50 mph. Check it right then, not after 15 minutes of slower riding to get home or to a "spot". This is easily done with an oil temp dipstick.
If the oil is over 230 F, then an oil cooler is recommended. If it is 230 F or lower, one is not needed.
Feel free to email or call with any questions.
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
www.dkcustomproducts.com/harley-davidson-softail-models-c151.htm
Those fan do make alot of noise (due to the required fan speed for such small fans) , is the Jim's fan solution as loud?
It is a much less high pitched sound, so does not sound nearly as loud. You can see a bit more on fans in this video - ua-cam.com/video/zmJmpdgBM3A/v-deo.html
Ever considered adding a switched power harness? You can find simple ones at Eastern Beaver. Tag a switched power wire, and never worry about switching fans on/off again.
Yes, I have considered that. However, I like to leave them running after stopping when its' been a long hot run. Also, there are times, especially this time of year, when it is in the 30's and 40's that I don't run them for shorter rides.
Thanks for the video. I don't know why Harley doesn't just install a fan as standard equipment at the factory. Seems like a necessary addition. The extra cost shouldn't make too much difference, and save a lot of headaches. Just my two cents worth.
Great point.
Probably because they want people like DK Customs and Love Jugs to come up with stuff for you to customize. They probably want to leave the customizing to the rider.
@@CenobiteBeldar And product development. Over the years we have seen HD adopt, and make OEM, some of the more popular items that we have developed.
@@DKCustomProducts your guys stuff is patented tho right? Harley doesn’t pay patent royalties for selling a product identical to other designs not theirs? I got done reading an article about some guy named Jason copying Love Jugs mighty mites or whoever copied whoever and Jason went out of business I guess. Which makes sense because if there was a patent, the copying party is obviously going to lose.
So sportsters do not need these?
It is very rare to see a Sportster that needs any type of fan. The exceptions are:
1. Lots (1 hour plus) of stop & go traffic in 95+ heat
2. Heavy high speed runs that last for hours in 95+ heat
Check out this video where we give the optimum temps for Sportys.
ua-cam.com/video/rWOdQOtDv6A/v-deo.html
On DK web site it say doesn’t fit my 2023 Triglide 4:09
We do not have Mighty Mites on our website...perhaps you are talking about the Force Flow Fan seen at this link?
www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
They will fit your 2023 Tri-Glide with a little creativity. Here is the fitment note: "M8 models that are Twin Cooled will have to have some creative placement of the Thermostat, or can be run with just the switch, not using the Thermostat"
Here is a video showing how I installed it on my Tri-Glide, and the process is the same for yours-
ua-cam.com/video/Hz7UgPMXO48/v-deo.html
I noticed you didn't use their frame mount. Do you think the frame mount is necessary ?
It is not necessary. I've run these on Twin Cams and M8's with no frame mount. However, on a Touring Twin Cam there is more vibration, especially if you have aggressive cams, and in those instances a frame mount is preferred to isolate the unit from the vibration.
@@DKCustomProducts Thanks for your reply. I'll get the frame mount then because i changed my cams out for more low end torque on my trike conversion.
Why did you not use the Cool Master?
Three reasons-
1. Most importantly, they do not cool as well as the Mighty Mites. See report at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/shoptalk/MMCF/
2. I don't like the looks of them
3. On a Twin Cooled bike you cannot install an oil cooler with the Cool Masters, but you can with the MM's
where can I get one of those horn stiffener plates like you're using? I'm obviously not using the correct term when trying to search for one. thanks!
The stiffener plate comes with the fans. If you did not get one with your fans, then contact them and let them know.
@@DKCustomProducts ah, perfect. i just ordered those mighty mites last night along with your 606.
@@michaeleddy316 Cool, we appreciate your business, and believe you will be very happy with both these mods!
@@DKCustomProducts i really appreciate the videos. good info. no nonsense like it should be.
@@michaeleddy316 Thanks man. Appreciate it!
What upgrade would you recommend to cool 2007 Yamaha vstar 650 classic?
I wish I could help...we have no experience with that engine.
But the principles of getting the most air flowing over the engine, not trapping any heat, and cooling the oil are good for all engines, across the board...at least enough to keep oil temps between 190-230 f.
Is there any benefit to adding these to a “Twin Cooled” bike ?
Yes. Twin Cooled bikes can run hotter than oil cooled bike. We did a video on it that you can see here-
ua-cam.com/video/6AhPqVlvE-w/v-deo.html
Also, for the Twin Cooled, take a look at this cooling fan. Many like it better than the other ones.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
Every bike is different, there are many strategies to get them cooled down to the Optimum Operating Temp.
You can see a write up on what the optimum temps are and how to get there at this link-
www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
The sound was only coming out of my left ear bud :( Thought there wasn't sound until I put the left ear bud in .
I didn't see any Mighty Might on the DK Custom webpage...do you sell them? Also, how are the Mighty Might working on the Tri Glide? I have a 2018 Tri Glide and need some good fans to keep her cooled down during stop and go traffic. I have purchased your lift tank, floorboard extensions, etc., but still need some good fans and wondering if the Mighty Might works for you they should work for my Trike. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching our video and for contacting us.
We do not sell the MM's, for a variety of reasons. However, if you do choose to use them, you can do so at the following link and we will receive a small referral fee- buylovejugs.com/?ap_id=DKKevin
The Mighty Mites work very well, as does the Forceflow Fan. The MM's cool just a tad better than the FF, but the FF, to many, is better looking.
In the Technical Info Tab at the following link you will see the test data-
www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
I personally am switching to the ForceFlow Fan on my Tri-Glide. It cools great, and I like the look much better.
Love your videos! You look way different with the beard not bundled!! LOL
Thanks, glad you're enjoying the videos! 👍
thanks! if you had to choose between the mighty mite love jugs ans the Jim's force flow, which would be your pick?
I am putting the Force Flow on my 2019 in the next week. Nothing wrong with the MM's, I just like the cleaner look of the FF
I read user views on the Jim's. All bad.
@@porkchopspapi5757 Go to this link and read the reviews- www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
Please correct me if I am wrong. Isn’t your trike equipped twin cooled engine ? If so why would you need a mikey mouse job done ? Please make me understand 🤔
The cooling is only for a small part of the heads. This isn't a car engine with a water jacket surrounding the entire cylinder.
How much do they vibrate with engine running? i.e. A little, a whole lot, or not too bad? I know this is subjective, it really looks like a pain in the ass to go with the frame mount kit. I have 2021 TriGlide Ultra.Thanks.
You're correct, that is very subjective, since every bike vibrates differently. Probably the best way to know is that they will vibrate about the same amount that your horn vibrates.
I have always used the horn mount, not the frame mount. I am on my 5th bike (1 Sporty, 3 Twin Cams, & 1 M8) and have not had a problem. But I do NOT run aggressive cams (which cause more vibration). I do know guys with aggressive cams and/or high compression and they cannot run on the horn mount, they have to use the frame mount.
Is the horn mount ok with woods 777 cams ?
Is it common for the front motor too go out after 9 months??? In less then 5000 miles??? If so you should mention that before someone wastes 550$
It was/is not common. Their quality has been slipping the last couple of years, and we have stopped emphasizing them. However, even with the recent spotty problems, most folks do Not have any issues with them.
Have you ever installed the MightyMites with the frame brackets they sell or is the horn mount good enough ?
We've used the frame mount on one bike. It is a Stage IV with aggressive cams. On many (7) other bikes, that had stock or mild cams in them, we've used the horn mount with no problems. buylovejugs.com/?ap_id=DKKevin
I would use ViceGrips.
Yes, vice grips work well, as long as you are going to be replacing the rubber isolator, because almost assuredly the rubber will end up compromised from the vice grips.
Do you still recommend the Love Juggs? Thank you 😎
We recommend the Force Flow Fan or the Mighty Mites for any Twin Cam or M8 bike. The Mighty Mites have been hard to get...the Force Flow a little less hard.
I will not run any of my TC's or M8's without one or the other.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
@@DKCustomProducts thanks so much! My local shop here in Nova Scotia has the Cool Masters, larger than what I'd like but still hopefully cool down my 2012 heritage 😃🥵
Yes, they will cool your Heritage down...both in city and highway riding. Not quite as much as the Mighty Mites or Force Flow, but still quite a bit.
Thanks brother!
You're welcome, glad it was helpful.
FYI LoveJugs copied the design from Jason Ward of WardsFanWerks then they patented the design and threatened to sue Jason Ward. So Jason was SOL...and really pissed but nothing he could do legally so he was forced to stop selling his fans. Anyway I have had a set of Jason's fans for 5 years and they work fine. I have them set up on a thermal switch to start automatically at 185 degrees. I can bypass the thermal switch and have the fans work on the toggle switch also but I leave the thermal switch activated all the time. That way when I shut the bike off the fans keep running and help cool off the engine quicker then shut down automatically. I'm very happy with them.
Yep, and Jason is a Veteran also. The whole situation is sad. In addition to some Mighty Mites I am running, I also have two Wards Fans that are still going strong.
Jason's fans worked better and they were less out of pocket,better bang for the buck...screw love jugs!!
I also have wards fans. Made in USA, vs love jugs copied China ones. My wards been going strong for 5 years now!
Does DK customs carry these mighty mites?
We do not carry them, we do recommend them, and if you get them at the following link we receive a small referral fee.
buylovejugs.com/?ap_id=DKKevin
We do carry the Force Flow Fan at the link below. It works almost as well as the Mighty Mite fans and many prefer the look of the FFF better.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm
@@DKCustomProducts ,Thank you.
I wired mine up and it keeps popping a fuse? And here's another ass kicker for you the fan is still operational, yes I'm scratched by noggin on that one.
Popping a fuse is usually an indicator of a short. Since the fans are still running after the fuse pops, then it is some other wire that is likely shorting out. See what the fuse that is popping powers, then trace the wires until you find the short.
A lot of times when working on a bike, especially in close quarters, wires that are not even part of the work being done can get pinched.
No where I go does it say that it will fit 2021 H-D TriGlide ultra. What is the difference from your TriGlide?
We have some Customers running these on their 2021's. I don't believe there is a difference in the mounting position for the MM fans from 2017 thru 2021
I like the Idea of this all except one factor.The hot air to me is blowing by the fans from the left side to the right side on your right leg.Fans to me should be at the back of the rear cylinder sucking the air away from the rear cylinder,this will keep or minimize the hot air blowing from the left side. You did not comment on the air flow. Thanks for listening.Willie
When wearing short I can barely feel the air on the right leg. Wearing jeans I do not feel it. Since the overall temp of the engine is lower, the general heat radiated from the engine (which I do feel) is Less because of the lower overall temp. The fan pulling air off the rear cylinder and down has been tried. It will reduce felt heat for the passenger a small amount, but does not work well at reducing overall engine temps. See a full report on Engine Temps and what can be done at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
The intro video showed CNC machines and you're working out of a shipping container?
We have 3000 square feet of traditional slab building, which is completely utilized, we also have 2 shipping containers that are finished out that we use. This particular video is in Kevin's bike room that he has at his home.
I need one of those beards to dust off my coffee table.
Just quit shaving and in a few years you should have one. :)
One of these days you will complete an installation so we can hear if the fans are too loud.
Not really sure what you are talking about...seems like you did not complete watching the video?
At the 14:53 mark in this video the install was completer and I turned the fans on.
Also, we have another video, at the link below, where you can hear the fans on with the engine off, and with them on with the engine running.
ua-cam.com/video/zmJmpdgBM3A/v-deo.html
@@DKCustomProducts I had but maybe I bumped it forward. Thanks
Great product. Just get that right leg out the way.. blows lots of hot air.
Thank you for the comment. Some folks feel the heat, others do not. Might have something to do with how they sit in the seat.
Harley Davidson has been doing everything in the world to avoid liquid cooling their motorcycles, there is no reason in the world a motorcycle shouldn’t run like a car after all these years up till now in 2021.
It appears now with the new revolution max engine that day is here and their is no going back.
It would seem that it is very close for HD ...they keep sticking their toe in the water of water cooled. The new Sportster-S will see if it turns out better than previous attempts. Here is an interesting video on the subject- ua-cam.com/video/mzzc-ydotOQ/v-deo.html
So it seems MM is much quieter than FF. But FF is definitely better looking.
Not sure about that. I think they both are about the same loudness, maybe the FF is a bit quieter than the MM's. The MM's do a little better job at cooling the rear cylinder, not a lot, but a little. I have been using the MM type on my bikes for over 10 years, but am switching over to the FF just because of the looks and they are very effective. Here is a video where you can hear the MM's on my Softail with the engine off - ua-cam.com/video/zmJmpdgBM3A/v-deo.html
where the sound
Turn up your speakers...there's sound throughout the video. If you're asking about the sound of the fans when they're on, go to the end of the video. At the 14:57 mark is when I turn on the fans, after the install is done.
@@DKCustomProducts hey dk i got my sound at a 100% and i cant hear
@@jeffgilmore2081 Have you tried it on a different device? We've tested it on 3 different phones, and 6 different computers. All of them have good sound.
Sound was good on my PC
U really dont show how to install. U describe but dont really show what ur doing. I'm looking for a step by step how to. This was not it. Thanks anyway for ur contribution!
After reading your comment I watched the entire 15:43 video. Every step of the installation is covered. There is nothing more to it than that.
If you want to wire it in to a switch on your dash...or use a thermal switch, that is not how this was installed. It was installed for controlling the fans with the switch located on the fans, and every single step of the install process is in this video.
Too many trike videos
Different strokes for Different folks. Most cross-over (like this one) to all Touring models.
DK get a real tec. to do the work this guy doesn't know how to use the correct tools ,wasts to much time, 30 min. to install your air cleaner assembly and now this WOW . lol
Thanks for the comment. What is a "tec." ? I'd like to know, I bet some others would too, to, 2. 😃
Band-aid for a shitty design !!!! H-D charging more for less since 1903 !!!😄😄😄😄😄😄😄