Thank you for a great video!! I've seen them tip from a distance, not up close.. almost got to see a portable tipper in action a few times, but they we're too slow at getting set up, I had to get going.. Oregon State Highway 6 Through the coast range in 1996.. dug out, rebuilt it... They filled all the deep slides with treated chips. Wed head up at 7pm, no chip pile, by 7am there'd be a huge pile, day shift dump trucks hauled the chips up to fill the holes we cleaned up at night.
The setup at my old mill never had the yellow bars over the top or let you dump with the truck still on. Man, I can't imagine the time that would be saved with one of those setups.
Nice dumpers,the ones at the mill here,we have to back on,and drop the trailer,even the 48 and 53 foot trailers,won't let us keep our tractors hooked up anymore.
They have a bubble door on the front of the B trailer and barn doors with a drop down door on the back of the A trailer, product flows through both out the back, I used to haul these super B trailers every day, now I haul a single 53' and make more money
We have to keep the equipment as light as possible,but strong enough to carry as much payload a is legally allowed. The cargo weight is heavier than the equipment. Also the loads sometimes stick especially in the winter. A hydraulic dump would be way too heavy and probably fall over when dumping. We do sometimes use " Self Unloaders" in some situations. These flat floor trailers have a moving hydraulic floor that walk the payload off. I've been doing this nearly 20 years now.
I'm a chip hauler in Oregon, 1) the truck is resting against a metal stop so it can't fall it, 2) the driver is never inside the truck, we're always inside s control room operating the tipper!
#5 Almost forgot.... The lost hour matters also, because they don't pay by the mile, but by the run. And they don't pay for runs they send you out on where you can't pick up any chips; at least that's how it was told to me by Mr. Company Driver.
I used to haul to this mill at Castlegar for Kerver, hauling DCT Chambers Super B Wood Chip Vans... B-) I did the Merritt, West Bank, Eagle River, Revelstoke, Golden and Salmo-Creston runs...
Iron Horseman I was on a test/evaluation run from Castlegar to Revelstoke and back for Chambers when I shot this video. The company driver who was evaluating me actually talked me out of hiring on with them. He made the company sound so bad, that I decided not to pursue employment with them. That, and the townsfolk basically told my wife (she stayed in town while I did the run) "Don't let your husband work for them!"Don't know - maybe they're a good outfit; I'll never know.
Heard a story of a guy leaving truck running dumping garbage. It was an old mechanical engine so no automatic shutdown if it looses oil pressure. It wasn't running when it came back down I gather :-) I watched a reefer engine trying to run on its side after guy flopped it. It was a tuff lil bastard, ran violently for 3 min before it finally pooed the bed.
Chips from and for...? Pretty crazy instead of just a dump trailer they tilt tractor & trailer. Does the truck/trailer get strapped down any on that platform?
Just a bar across the back of the rear trailer. Gravity does the rest. The front trailer dumps right through the rear trailer. I guess it's cheaper than a walking push wall. Things like that usually come down to whatever is considered cost effective.
Great video, thanks for sharing. Interesting to see the detail of how this work. Does anyone know of anywhere that this same method is used for unloading coal from either semis or B-trains?
The beam across the rear of the back trailer holds all of the weight of the vehicle. The tractor simply sits with the front trailer holding its weight on fifth wheel.
Just gonna throw in a comment to see who says what... I recorded this video when trying out for Danny Chambers Trucking. I had to make a run from Castlegar to Revelstoke and back. The company driver who was my evaluator/tester (not sure what to call it) basically talked me out of the job while we were on the road there and back. He was quitting in two months. It was weird - he was trying to make it out like they are a good outfit to work for, all while he's telling me about... continued...
Depends, if you go from hauling bark to chips then yes. but if you haul the same thing all the time no. The dumper empties 99% of it and sometimes crap sticks in the corners
damn I've NEVER seen a chip hauler with doubles, I've been driving for 20 years, but I see this everyday when I go into Georgia pacific wood mill to drop pulp wood.
JoshCourts dump trailer are heavier so they can haul more weight this way and you eliminate human error factor by not having the possibility of leaving the dump in the air
#3 and they send you back empty, 'love letters' from Chambers for going one or two clicks over 100 KM/H, even when you're in a 110 zone, and various other niceties. So, he wouldn't come out and tell me that he hated working there; only that he was 'moving on'. But before the run was over, I knew there was no way I'd work for them. Funny thing was that while my wife waited for me in Castlegar, several townsfolk told her, "You don't want your husband to work for them; they've ... continued...
parking brake, it aint going nowere, just don't stand outside in the dump cage you'll be fine. First time I did it scared the crap out of me, but it got routine fast...
#4 ...got a real bad reputation." So, for my part, I have nothing to say from experience with them, but it was enough to spook me so I figured I was better off writing off the hotel, fuel and meal costs off, and chalk it up as a nice winter trip with the missus to Castlegar for a couple of days. Just curious to hear what anyone who's worked for DCT, or who know someone who does, has to say.
@oney135 One of the reasons I didn't take that job is because the driver told me (he probably wasn't supposed to tell me, lol) that if you get sent away from a mill empty because they're out of chips, you don't get paid for your trip, even though the company sent you there. I understand that the company has too run a pretty tight ship to make a profit, etc, but after I crunched the numbers, I figured I couldn't afford to drive for them, unfortunately.
Ill be going to work for chambers in a week or so..I head alot of shit about both arrow and chambers..im sure there are horror stories with all companies.. but i hope everything goes well.
@oney135 No. I was a driver for one day. I tried out there, but didn't end up taking the job. Too long on work, and too short on pay. But it was good for a photo shoot. Even the company driver I was with told me (off camera) that he'd be quitting in a couple of months, and that they have a hard time retaining drivers (I've noticed they're almost always advertising for new drivers) because they don't pay well, at least not what the job is worth. Money's pretty tight all around, I guess.
About a year ago the very tipper in this video on the far side actually collapsed to the side underneath the path of the one the uploaders truck was on while it was in the air. The entire operation was down for over a week until they could do a damage assessment and safety inspection. They had 1 tipper for almost 6 months it was a painful long wait every day with 25 trucks lined up waiting
#2 ...wage clawbacks, where they pretend to give you a 'fuel bonus' after first clawing back 10% of what they used to pay, only to pretend to give it back if you hit all the right ratios when shifting, so as to use less fuel, even while you lose an hour on a run because of it and the arbitrary 100 KM/H company speed limit, not getting paid for runs they send you on when the mill doesn't have enough chips... continued...
thers nos way that cant be real,,,,,is fame?how thery tipping the truck upside down down and the driv er doest fall out,,,or whay about the oil and gas,,,,must be something esle
put in on the dump, parking brake, shut off truck, get out, operate the dump, take sample, rinse and repeat. They do it all day long, there is no chains gravity holds it in place, and the oil/fuel stays put (as long as you have your lid on) just don't forget to get your drinks out of the cab, and open the tailgate...leaveing the tailgate shut can cause a huge disaster lol
nothing but gravity holds it, did this for four years in the NW USA, longview WA mostly. The bar you back into is the only thing keeping it from going into the hopper
damn I've NEVER seen a chip hauler with doubles, I've been driving for 20 years, but I see this everyday when I go into Georgia pacific wood mill to drop pulp wood.
Thanks for the great video! I worked for Walsh trucking in Washington and Oregon. I remember those lifts..amazing! Good job and hard honest work.
always wanted to see up close how it's done, finally someone knows what needs to be filmed. thanks for unloading this video
for years i've always wondered what was in those trucks ever since I was a kid. now I finally know
Thank you for a great video!! I've seen them tip from a distance, not up close.. almost got to see a portable tipper in action a few times, but they we're too slow at getting set up, I had to get going..
Oregon State Highway 6 Through the coast range in 1996.. dug out, rebuilt it... They filled all the deep slides with treated chips. Wed head up at 7pm, no chip pile, by 7am there'd be a huge pile, day shift dump trucks hauled the chips up to fill the holes we cleaned up at night.
Ed Gosselin Glad you enjoyed it; that makes it worth making the videos!
Kimchiman1000, I believe you just got another subscriber... Thank you!
@@mtl-ss1538 thank you!!
that is one nice setup they have there !! never seen that before.
wow vibe man thats sick love the new stuff these days now lol
The setup at my old mill never had the yellow bars over the top or let you dump with the truck still on. Man, I can't imagine the time that would be saved with one of those setups.
never seen that way of unlocking befor thats pretty sick show more please
There's a pair of these chip truck tippers at the docks in Portland Victoria Australia.
Amazing technology.
So, do you grab a coffee and wait or what? Paperwork? I expect you can't ride the truck up in to the air!! haha
Thank you for this video!!
my instructor told me about back in the day when they were training the new guy, "Hold on, I'm gonna step out and grab us a coffee"
Thank you sir. I have to design hydraulic system. I'm looking for what conditions may occur then finding solution.
@kimchiman1000 Thanks for posting this video, exactly what I was looking for.
Nice dumpers,the ones at the mill here,we have to back on,and drop the trailer,even the 48 and 53 foot trailers,won't let us keep our tractors hooked up anymore.
At 5:02 is the alarm sound from Halo 2!
How are they dumping doubles together when both trailers are connected with two separate back doors 🤔
Hauling in NZ .
ua-cam.com/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/v-deo.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ua-cam.com/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/v-deo.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150T
ua-cam.com/video/KGJTw07yRFg/v-deo.html .. 57T chip hauler .
ua-cam.com/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/v-deo.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ua-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/v-deo.html .Classic chip trucking.39T = 8V92T
They have a bubble door on the front of the B trailer and barn doors with a drop down door on the back of the A trailer, product flows through both out the back, I used to haul these super B trailers every day, now I haul a single 53' and make more money
We have to keep the equipment as light as possible,but strong enough to carry as much payload a is legally allowed. The cargo weight is heavier than the equipment. Also the loads sometimes stick especially in the winter. A hydraulic dump would be way too heavy and probably fall over when dumping. We do sometimes use " Self Unloaders" in some situations. These flat floor trailers have a moving hydraulic floor that walk the payload off. I've been doing this nearly 20 years now.
Dumb question- what keeps the trucks from falling?? Looks like a fun ride if you are the driver!
I'm a chip hauler in Oregon, 1) the truck is resting against a metal stop so it can't fall it, 2) the driver is never inside the truck, we're always inside s control room operating the tipper!
Learn something new every day! THanks! @@jacksonwhittier3646
#5
Almost forgot....
The lost hour matters also, because they don't pay by the mile, but by the run. And they don't pay for runs they send you out on where you can't pick up any chips; at least that's how it was told to me by Mr. Company Driver.
Thanks. Always to let each other in on these things. It helps.
I used to haul to this mill at Castlegar for Kerver, hauling DCT Chambers Super B Wood Chip Vans... B-) I did the Merritt, West Bank, Eagle River, Revelstoke, Golden and Salmo-Creston runs...
Iron Horseman I was on a test/evaluation run from Castlegar to Revelstoke and back for Chambers when I shot this video. The company driver who was evaluating me actually talked me out of hiring on with them. He made the company sound so bad, that I decided not to pursue employment with them. That, and the townsfolk basically told my wife (she stayed in town while I did the run) "Don't let your husband work for them!"Don't know - maybe they're a good outfit; I'll never know.
damn those some good parking breaks
Heard a story of a guy leaving truck running dumping garbage. It was an old mechanical engine so no automatic shutdown if it looses oil pressure. It wasn't running when it came back down I gather :-) I watched a reefer engine trying to run on its side after guy flopped it. It was a tuff lil bastard, ran violently for 3 min before it finally pooed the bed.
Chips from and for...? Pretty crazy instead of just a dump trailer they tilt tractor & trailer. Does the truck/trailer get strapped down any on that platform?
Just a bar across the back of the rear trailer. Gravity does the rest. The front trailer dumps right through the rear trailer. I guess it's cheaper than a walking push wall. Things like that usually come down to whatever is considered cost effective.
@@kimchiman1000 Hauling in NZ .
ua-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/v-deo.html .Classic Chip trucking. 39 tons
ua-cam.com/video/KGJTw07yRFg/v-deo.html .2020 chip haulage. 57 tons.
ua-cam.com/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/v-deo.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
Great video, thanks for sharing. Interesting to see the detail of how this work. Does anyone know of anywhere that this same method is used for unloading coal from either semis or B-trains?
Why is it done like this instead of using walking floor trailers or side-tip trailers?
great video
What holds the cab? Just the trailer attachment?
The beam across the rear of the back trailer holds all of the weight of the vehicle. The tractor simply sits with the front trailer holding its weight on fifth wheel.
used 2 see u in small town Klamath falls Oregon ! ! !
Hey dude what do they do with the woodchips once they are done unloading them off the trucks?
some of our chip trucks had "live floors" in them , they can unload on level ground by themselves
how do those trucks stay put
Also, any idea what the approximate gross weight of these B-trains are?
Do the clamp the truck on somehow or is it just resting on the rear barrier?
Big steel bar across the rear of the trailer.
Just gonna throw in a comment to see who says what...
I recorded this video when trying out for Danny Chambers Trucking. I had to make a run from Castlegar to Revelstoke and back. The company driver who was my evaluator/tester (not sure what to call it) basically talked me out of the job while we were on the road there and back. He was quitting in two months.
It was weird - he was trying to make it out like they are a good outfit to work for, all while he's telling me about...
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Depends, if you go from hauling bark to chips then yes. but if you haul the same thing all the time no. The dumper empties 99% of it and sometimes crap sticks in the corners
are the vehicle secured on there with clamps or anything? just wondering
They just sit there. Nothing except a bar along the back to hold them in place. There are no sudden movements, so it's safer than it looks.
@@kimchiman1000 copy that...I guess don't leave your coffee cup in the holder tho.
@@neckarsulme Hauling in NZ .
ua-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/v-deo.html .Classic Chip trucking. 39 tons
ua-cam.com/video/KGJTw07yRFg/v-deo.html .2020 chip haulage. 57 tons.
ua-cam.com/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/v-deo.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
I drove that 135 when it was new. One of Pat Ramsey's.
@CanadianCarReviews Hauling in NZ .
ua-cam.com/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/v-deo.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ua-cam.com/video/peVUjn7oR64/v-deo.html.. highway haulage..50T
ua-cam.com/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/v-deo.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150T
ua-cam.com/video/KGJTw07yRFg/v-deo.html .. 57T chip hauler .
ua-cam.com/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/v-deo.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ua-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/v-deo.html .Classic trucking.39T = 8V92T
will they let you see hold were it go?
Used to see DCTs down in Portland and Seattle.
Thats wild. Does the driver stay in the truck while it is being emptied like that? and has a truck ever dropped into the pit? (cool vid)
damn I've NEVER seen a chip hauler with doubles, I've been driving for 20 years, but I see this everyday when I go into Georgia pacific wood mill to drop pulp wood.
up in Alaska somewere or out west?
is you gone show the hold were it go?
Is the tractor and trailer solely held in place by its breaks and that rear cross bar?
Yes
Bet this operation smells good! Too bad there's no "SMELL"ivision!
Mike Pendergrass LMFAO
@@aspiringboba02yt59 Hauling in NZ .
ua-cam.com/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/v-deo.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ua-cam.com/video/peVUjn7oR64/v-deo.html.. highway haulage..50T
ua-cam.com/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/v-deo.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150T
ua-cam.com/video/KGJTw07yRFg/v-deo.html .. 57T chip hauler .
ua-cam.com/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/v-deo.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ua-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/v-deo.html .Classic trucking.39T = 8V92T
Seems like if you could shake or vibrate it a bit, the load would come out at a lower angle.
Some of the drivers drink too much coffee and then sit in the truck to help vibrate the load out.
Well.... probably not, lol.
Always wondered how they did that, seems like a dumping trailer would be easier, lol
JoshCourts dump trailer are heavier so they can haul more weight this way and you eliminate human error factor by not having the possibility of leaving the dump in the air
Hard to believe that angle empties out the possum belly?
#3
and they send you back empty, 'love letters' from Chambers for going one or two clicks over 100 KM/H, even when you're in a 110 zone, and various other niceties.
So, he wouldn't come out and tell me that he hated working there; only that he was 'moving on'. But before the run was over, I knew there was no way I'd work for them. Funny thing was that while my wife waited for me in Castlegar, several townsfolk told her, "You don't want your husband to work for them; they've ...
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what is the safety procedure,.. using rear stopper, chain with hook ??
parking brake, it aint going nowere, just don't stand outside in the dump cage you'll be fine. First time I did it scared the crap out of me, but it got routine fast...
@@Duthsa Hauling in NZ .
ua-cam.com/video/Z22PZrF9r7c/v-deo.html .2020 haulage. 57 tons.
ua-cam.com/video/peVUjn7oR64/v-deo.html.. highway haulage..50T
ua-cam.com/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/v-deo.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150T
ua-cam.com/video/KGJTw07yRFg/v-deo.html .. 57T chip hauler .
ua-cam.com/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/v-deo.html ..200 ton off highway loggers ,
ua-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/v-deo.html .Classic trucking.39T = 8V92T
#4
...got a real bad reputation."
So, for my part, I have nothing to say from experience with them, but it was enough to spook me so I figured I was better off writing off the hotel, fuel and meal costs off, and chalk it up as a nice winter trip with the missus to Castlegar for a couple of days.
Just curious to hear what anyone who's worked for DCT, or who know someone who does, has to say.
Ahh i see thanks for the info buddy :)
@RailFanJon
It gets turned into pulp for making paper. Google 'Celgar' and 'Mercer International' and you'll get more details.
@TheRaginTiger
Duct tape!
Actually, there's a bar that goes across the back end of the trailer. The trailer sits against it while the truck is tipped.
Nice love it
And now it's off to Ikea!
My grandma is from Castlegar. pretty neato.
I've seen one that hopped the bar and got stuck in it.
@oney135
One of the reasons I didn't take that job is because the driver told me (he probably wasn't supposed to tell me, lol) that if you get sent away from a mill empty because they're out of chips, you don't get paid for your trip, even though the company sent you there.
I understand that the company has too run a pretty tight ship to make a profit, etc, but after I crunched the numbers, I figured I couldn't afford to drive for them, unfortunately.
thats cool brother
Ill be going to work for chambers in a week or so..I head alot of shit about both arrow and chambers..im sure there are horror stories with all companies.. but i hope everything goes well.
Don't you have tipping trailers in America?
I used to build those trailers...
Does the driver stay in the truck?
treasurejames No.
@oney135
No. I was a driver for one day. I tried out there, but didn't end up taking the job. Too long on work, and too short on pay. But it was good for a photo shoot.
Even the company driver I was with told me (off camera) that he'd be quitting in a couple of months, and that they have a hard time retaining drivers (I've noticed they're almost always advertising for new drivers) because they don't pay well, at least not what the job is worth. Money's pretty tight all around, I guess.
I have clients here in the Philippines with requirements of that kind of truck dumping
In New Zealand we unload a different way 😄
Freightliner, man I'm sorry.
lost the video had to find it took 8mins dam got lol wow bout to cry for minute lol
cool
i would wanna stay in the truck and put an astronauts helmet every time i did it because they said i was to crazy to go into space
josh wiles man, if only it was true, you can't stay in the trucks cause if the safety bar fails, that alot of money and a life that'll be taken away
About a year ago the very tipper in this video on the far side actually collapsed to the side underneath the path of the one the uploaders truck was on while it was in the air. The entire operation was down for over a week until they could do a damage assessment and safety inspection. They had 1 tipper for almost 6 months it was a painful long wait every day with 25 trucks lined up waiting
@chuck738
Just makes the day take longer for the same pay.
=(
#2
...wage clawbacks, where they pretend to give you a 'fuel bonus' after first clawing back 10% of what they used to pay, only to pretend to give it back if you hit all the right ratios when shifting, so as to use less fuel, even while you lose an hour on a run because of it and the arbitrary 100 KM/H company speed limit, not getting paid for runs they send you on when the mill doesn't have enough chips...
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loose the green bar
Usa yeees
thers nos way that cant be real,,,,,is fame?how thery tipping the truck upside down down and the driv er doest fall out,,,or whay about the oil and gas,,,,must be something esle
put in on the dump, parking brake, shut off truck, get out, operate the dump, take sample, rinse and repeat. They do it all day long, there is no chains gravity holds it in place, and the oil/fuel stays put (as long as you have your lid on) just don't forget to get your drinks out of the cab, and open the tailgate...leaveing the tailgate shut can cause a huge disaster lol
+James Martenet i dot think you known what your talking,,,,obviusly some thing holds hold it in place,,,,mabey a clamp
nothing but gravity holds it, did this for four years in the NW USA, longview WA mostly. The bar you back into is the only thing keeping it from going into the hopper
Absolutely nothing holds it in place. Some plants do have a bar that goes across the trailer, but those plants are few and far between.
Velcro
Terrible camera work
damn I've NEVER seen a chip hauler with doubles, I've been driving for 20 years, but I see this everyday when I go into Georgia pacific wood mill to drop pulp wood.