RishMeister, harsh but always fair 👍👍👍 Funny how RishMeister goes into his 'Referee stance' and body language as he explains rules and interpretation of the rules. Good show Rishy 👌
@@darrenarbergolf NEVER! I'd strongly discuss why I should get relief though...but ultimately, what he says would have to go. He knows the rules better than me. What if that damage wasn't marked? I believe the ball/balls would have had to be played as they lay...no relief. Is that correct?
It depends on the damage, and how it’s caused, as mentioned in the email to members. Under rule 16 it doesn’t mention about being marked, just relief from an abnormal course condition. White lines on a green can cause many long term issues with killing the grass. This damage could happen when there is no one to line it, and I would expect to get relief. I would suspect that we would be made aware if any damage to the greens.
@@darrenarbergolf You'd hope so...also that your playing partners would see sense. They have to protect the rest of the field but NOT punish you for something beyond your control or not fair. At least that's the way I'd look at it...
We are getting quite a bit of overnight animal damage at the moment. With you playing early morning you might encounter such damage or areas which have subsequently been repaired. Glad you enjoyed. Have you any rules requests?
Question is does the green need to be marked as ground under repair in order to take relief. Like in this example there is white line or chalk around it. How about when there's several dirt patches in your line.
There is a white line around it, I should have taken a shot which made it more visible sorry By having the white line it clearly defines the area, which makes it easier on the golfer. A club may identify problem areas on the course without any lines with the use of a local rule. For example the dirt patches that are on x Green are deemed abnormal course conditions and should your ball come to rest on or if your line putt is affected relief can be obtained -(rule 16. Abnormal course conditions)
@darrenarbergolf Thank you for the reply. I'm my case there was no white line so I checked with a staff at the club house who started since there was no local rule I had to play as is. So I was confused as to why there was a golf rule for abnormal condition if the green is suppose to be green with grass, not a patch dirt area on the green where you are forced to putt over uneven patchy dirt. Made no sense to me but that's what he told me. I always felt the greens are suppose to have grass, even if it's brown I wouldn't have mind, but numerous dirt patches in a 2 foot area should be a no brain to get line of relief.
RishMeister, harsh but always fair 👍👍👍
Funny how RishMeister goes into his 'Referee stance' and body language as he explains rules and interpretation of the rules. Good show Rishy 👌
You wouldn’t argue with him 🤣🤣🤣
@@darrenarbergolf NEVER! I'd strongly discuss why I should get relief though...but ultimately, what he says would have to go. He knows the rules better than me.
What if that damage wasn't marked? I believe the ball/balls would have had to be played as they lay...no relief. Is that correct?
It depends on the damage, and how it’s caused, as mentioned in the email to members. Under rule 16 it doesn’t mention about being marked, just relief from an abnormal course condition. White lines on a green can cause many long term issues with killing the grass. This damage could happen when there is no one to line it, and I would expect to get relief. I would suspect that we would be made aware if any damage to the greens.
@@darrenarbergolf You'd hope so...also that your playing partners would see sense. They have to protect the rest of the field but NOT punish you for something beyond your control or not fair.
At least that's the way I'd look at it...
Good one Darren and Rishy. Very pertinent 😃
We are getting quite a bit of overnight animal damage at the moment. With you playing early morning you might encounter such damage or areas which have subsequently been repaired. Glad you enjoyed. Have you any rules requests?
Question is does the green need to be marked as ground under repair in order to take relief. Like in this example there is white line or chalk around it. How about when there's several dirt patches in your line.
There is a white line around it, I should have taken a shot which made it more visible sorry By having the white line it clearly defines the area, which makes it easier on the golfer. A club may identify problem areas on the course without any lines with the use of a local rule. For example the dirt patches that are on x Green are deemed abnormal course conditions and should your ball come to rest on or if your line putt is affected relief can be obtained -(rule 16. Abnormal course conditions)
@darrenarbergolf Thank you for the reply. I'm my case there was no white line so I checked with a staff at the club house who started since there was no local rule I had to play as is. So I was confused as to why there was a golf rule for abnormal condition if the green is suppose to be green with grass, not a patch dirt area on the green where you are forced to putt over uneven patchy dirt. Made no sense to me but that's what he told me. I always felt the greens are suppose to have grass, even if it's brown I wouldn't have mind, but numerous dirt patches in a 2 foot area should be a no brain to get line of relief.
I am sure if you speak with the Greens chair about the situation, they will explore what can be done whilst the situation recovers.
All my putts tend to be tap ins, but good video all the same
Cheers James.
Does it have to be marked gur
Ideally it needs to be marked to define the area in question.