I used to throw the club head at the ball with great results until I was convinced that my bad shots during a round was the result of me adding loft by flipping the club head through the swing. So, I started paying attention to keeping my wrist locked throughout the swing. I attributed the loos of distance to my age and missed the fact that it was the sequence of my swing that was what was causing the bad shots during a round. Your GREAT video has showed me that it is the SEQUENCE of my swing that was causing the occasional bad shots. I have friends who are in their late 50’s to early 70’s who drive the ball 250-300 yards with swings that look effortless. You have made it so clear that the sequence of my swing is an important element that I must fix along with the loading and unloading of my wrist. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT VIDEO. I can’t wait to get to the range today to start working on my swing.
David Duvall was taught to throw the club behind his left side so he could feel the right wrist going into full flexion. No rotation, just full extension to full flexion. Great video...add pulling the left shoulder back as you go from extension and the increased whip forces flexion.
you have just s ed my game. i have been hitting it shorter and shorter until i saw and watched this video. it is exactly how i have naturally played and it convinced me to go to my old swing back. yesterday i played a round and i hit further with my drives n wood and shot a 87. i am 79 years old. thank you
Spot on Steve. Speed in the golf swing comes from the hands. Your wrists and hands are the tip of the whip and holding your wrist angles will kill distance. That is the secret to 200yd 7 iron all the pros make look so easy.
@@thegreenkeeper2537 yes. Just like your wrists should be. Tension in the forearms and wrists kills speed. Next time you practice, consciously relax your arms and hands (keep the fingers firmly around the club obviously) and see if there’s a difference. Some other factors in the overall swing are in play but with less tension, most people will set their wrists, get some natural lag and release the stored up power more naturally.
@@scottc1281 Mike Malaska showing how fast the hands are and how slow the body is ua-cam.com/video/d7PUHEA9pn8/v-deo.html yet most amateurs try to lunge with their body to create speed
Yup I got this from Mike Malaska also. Been working on it for a couple of weeks. It is a game changer! Just don’t forget step and rotate then snap. Great video
Great video. I figured this move out this year when a fellow golfer at my club mentioned how hard I was gripping the club. Once I reduced grip pressure I was able to,get the same / more distance with much less effort, and the best thing of all was that my dispersion massively improved. My handicap has come down from 18 to 13, and I think there is much more to come. The main challenge is to believe in it, not allow myself to tense up / try to steer the ball.
I lost about 2.5 years of my golf life not doing this. I got so stuck in this mechanical “hold your wrist” swing, I got to the point where I couldn’t even hit a ball consistently. I darn near quit the game. My back was constantly hurting. I started doing this move at the beginning of the season and golf is so much more fun. You have to be free and use your levers. Let the darn club head go. Let it snap like a towel.
Steve as usual an outstanding description lof the subject with clear explanations. You’re definitely one of the best teachers on the net. Mike Malaska is great and so are you. I have been following you for years and must say that you’re right on. You don’t use click bait like some do. And by the way you don’t take forty minutes to explain something when you can do it in five. I appreciate your expertise.
Great video and so true! I’m thinking of some old time swings like Bobby Jones and George Knudson, with that relaxed, free snap at the bottom. Many thanks for reminding me of this as I get older.
I'm 51 and played professionally in my 20's. Injuries got in the way so I went into teaching for a while then on to a non golf job. I actually quit playing for about 15 years but I thought about the golf swing a lot. My old swing was lead side dominant. The straight left arm and body rotation pulled the club through impact. I was young, big and fast and I hit it long and straight. Add 20 years and 25lbs and I'm not capable of producing that speed with my body. I studied Tiger's swing and realized his body was trying to keep up with his hands. So I started playing again about 2 years ago. I worked becoming a trail side dominant player. I "throw" the club from the top at the ball BUT I don't cast the club. There is a difference. When you open the shoulders or start with the shoulders you have to cast the club in order to make contact. This produces a low left to left hook. I struggled for a while to figure out the sequence of the down swing. Then I heard a golf announcer talk about Cory Conner's swing. He said Conner's does a great job keeping his back to the target like Jack Nicklaus often talked about. It all clicked. I went to the range that day and figured out a relatively slow backswing, then nanosecond pause at the top, then swinging my hands with back to the target longer produced a perfect slightly inside out path. I hit a few fat until I realized ball position has to move back to accommodate the more shallow swing. I'm 6' 220lbs 51 years old. Driver club speed while playing is 108 to 110. I carry the ball 280+ and consistently roll it out well past 300 yards. I've worked my handicap back to a +2 and I hope I stay healthy and can play at a high level into my 60s. This " move" is not new it's actually old. The real terminology is releasing the club. There is a series of videos on UA-cam called the Rotary Swing that goes into more detail. my keys are swing under control, back to the target and DROP the hands through. The way you k or it's right is if you can get the club to parallel in the follow through and your right hand is in perfect position to shake someone's hand. If you want to draw imagine your being loose and faster. A fade your wrist will be more stiff and the release is slower. The swing is different for everyone. Feels are different. This works for me and I hope this helps someone play a little better.
Steve, you've already changed my game for the better. I'm looking forward to trying this tomorrow! The challenge remains in the sequence/timing of the process. I agree. This wrist action is demonized because "most" of us struggle with sequencing even before this wrist move. That is why - with your help - I have worked hard of late to "look like a golfer" while practicing WITHOUT a golf ball. Videos of my swing were horrendous! I looked weird swinging, regardless of where the ball went because my goal was to hit a ball far instead of properly. By exposing this wrist action, you also address why most of my drives AND iron shots were "fades" (slices). By keeping my wrist rigid, my rotation and club face contributed to all manner of mis-hits. So, I have dedicated myself to looking like a golfer FIRST and measuring the result secondly. I believe this wrist flexion will improve my game. I will listen for the swish before a ball comes into play. Time will tell. Thank you!
I have subscribed to your UA-cam channel and have viewed many of your videos. There are times when you stress right wrist flipping. Other times the left wrist flipping. Which is the primary?
Steve you had a previous video swinging around a tent post, same release. Absolutely awesome instruction. I’ve done this accidently and went from 200m to 273m. I’m a believer. Love your videos.
The idea of this video is very correct. Too many amateurs try to stop that release of the club. My thoughts are though that if you time the movements together the flexion that Steve talks about here happens without you forcing it. That's what you need to get too. Then you know that you're getting the most power for the least amount of effort. I still think this is a great video to teach the average golfer not to stop your 'release'.
I tried this last week steve and bloody hell i hit the ball so well.the sound of clubhead on ball was totally different. I did hit a couple right but majority were fantastic.
Steve I’m 72. I find your videos very helpful and informative. However I am still struggling to hit my drives more than 180 yards + or - . However occasionally and only occasional maybe 240 which is where I was able to do most of the time 15 years ago. Which leads me to believe it’s still in there but my timing is just a little bit off. I have considered trying to come to see you however I’m in Georgia and I think you are in California. Not sure if I can afford that trip Any ideas on getting some help. This video gives me something else to try and maybe this’ll be the fix. Thanks again for what I’ve learned so far. Bobby
This move took me from 240 to 275 driver carry overnight. The swing around the pole drill is my new favorite. I imagine the pole behind the ball with driver and slightly ahead of the ball with irons.
I agree 100%, I've used this method for many years. the power at the flexion point is key to my longer drives. I always referred to it, as wrist cocking, I showed a friend of mine who swung stiff armed, he had no distance, I told him he needed to do wrist cock ( flexion ) after he learned to do this, he thanked me for the advice, said it helped his distance a lot. THANKS.
At 14 I won a junior tourn by shooting 71 from the men's tees on a course that was approx 7,000 yds. This was back in the early 70s. Played with a set of Tommy Armour irons and woods and used a spinny Titleist. Beat the #2 all AF guy at 15 to win the base championship. Once in a while my left wrist would hurt. And people commented that I came off the ground when hitting the ball. I only weighed 120 lbs at 5'2" at the time but could carry the ball 230 back then. Had I not listened to my "elders" I could of made something of my golf talent. If you have a scrawny little kid who really knows how to put on the brakes and transfer momentum to the head of a golf club encourage it. It's the real way to hit a golf ball.
Absolutely true ! Many golf "coaches" see still photographs and try to interpret from those. It really is not possible to teach unathletic people to play any sport and golf is particularly the case.
😅 Yes!... ever since I happened on my first Austin vid (which lead me to your channel BTW), Ball has never flown straighter. Caution however.. my left wrist was in too much extension and I tweaked on the down swing (they do work in pairs🙄). The flip is actually a release at the right time.
I think where folks get mixed up about this is they don't rotate so they think this is a flip when the issue is no rotation. No rotation...yes it is a flip. Rotate correctly and this is the swing! Great video. As an aside, I find it mildly humorous that some instructors will use the very same videos and images of Hogan and others to illustrate how one should keep ones hands and wrists quiet.
Steve, thanks for this video. I’m a righty and hit the ball with my left arm doing most of the work in the swing. I grip very loosely with my right hand. This has helped me tremendously with my coming over the top. I think my right wrist is in flexion. Can you explain this from your lead hand position?
This bit of flip also can square up the club face for many as holding the set wrist can leave the face open. When you bend the wrist back it does not keep club face square it naturally opens some, but flipping the wrist back before impact squares the face up try it.
I tell others all the time, "if you can throw a ball, you can golf." Most everyone already know how to throw a ball. The tricky part is to convert the throwing movement into a golf swing.
Just try throwing a ball at the addressed position of the golf ball. 12 o’clock target. Throw towards 1 for straight/draw. Throw towards 11 for fades. Adjust times to suit your habits. PenguinGolf
Just caught the vid. Wow! Watched it 3 times. It answers my one big question. ‘How do they do it’? All the great golfers(especially with mid short irons, seem effortlessly (ie Justin rose at 24 Open) hit 278 yds with an 8 iron.! I started to think they’d been to the crossroads (guitar freaks will know what I mean!) but this explains what’s going on. One question, are both wrists getting into this or just the ‘trail’ wrist? Won’t the forward wrist ‘resist’ this action? Thanks
The left wrist goes along. Helps to have a firm grip with loose wrists. Be sure to watch Monte’s updated videos on this. He now says to throw the club to 4 o’clock at the top and then 8 o’clock thru impact if 12 o’clock is the ball.
Your point is valid and biomechanically correct. However, only hitting a baseball/softball is analogous to the golf swing because these actions use an implement to hit an independent object. Throwing a ball, javelin or other object benefits from the wrist flexing to transfer energy, but...they are not hitting an independent object. Mike's point is valid so that all the energy transferred to the club head contacts the golf ball. My clarification is a minor biomechanical point because the ball will travel in the direction of contact with the club face. Mike makes this point in many other lessons.
One good practice tool for this is to use a very flexible training club, like the lag shot. If you can't hit it as far as your regular club or keep slicing it, you are not throwing the club head properly.
I have been doing a motion like this for a while now and I have gone from 120mph too 140mph ballspeed is 203 and the ball doesn't go off line it's actually very accurate. The loose feeling and softness on it all feels like I flop my hands into the ball but unload it fully there is very little effort Steve may I join you for a lesson some day
I hit golf sized tennis balls against a wall in my basement, they are slightly denser than foam balls, but I have hit 5000 plus shots against this wall and never put more than a smudge on the wall.... Got up while watching this video, attempted the wrist flex and put the first dent in my wall first swing.... thought it was a fluke, second and third swing made it so I can't swing in the house anymore... pretty neat!
If this is correct, then I was definitely coached out of a good swing when I started playing 30 years ago. My best shot felt effortless and everyone said I had such a smooth swing with little tension. So I decided to take lessons and was told not to flip. What he should have told me was how to sequence because I was just not rotating. It is amazing what one bad lesson can do to years of golf. I'm going back to the flap!
A great example regarding accuracy is darts players, they absolutely do this, and their targets are tiny in comparison, yet they are deadly accurate. The clubhead is like a free flying object at the moment of impact, as you describe, freewheeling through the ball. It 100% works, I copied it from darts throwers, then I saw your video.
Loved it! Curious about what you think about this. I think one reason this move gets demonized is because people stop turning and/or the handle lifts and opens the face. If you stop turning then you will hook.
This doesn't work for the people who early extend and stand up because their rotation stalls. They have to pull the handle and hold the wrist to get ball first contact.
Hey Steve, I noticed your take away is a tiny curved. I used to do that and had slight fade. After lessons with course pro I slice or snap slice like a really bent banana. Can't seem to get the old swing back. Can you do a swing drill with the driver please.
Fully agreed, Steve. When we hold onto the club, the arms become stiff and we are hitting the ball, which is not as fast as when we whip the club head through the ball with soft, snappy wrist.
Padraig Harrington says exactly this. Shaft lean is a static photo taken on a dynamic position. That static photo of a moving person has destroyed so many golf swings through the years. Nothing athletic is done with a static joint, rather timed as to when the wrist 'flips' so that its post impact rather than pre!
This motion in combination with pushing against the lead leg results in going from linear to radial acceleration - using that whip or towel - just dont forget to clear your hip and tilt enough….
Ex ball player who got old and self taught in golf. Im 63 and like smacking the ball. Ive always hit like this, I usually start with a more gentle position at first but as I get the timing down i crank it up, i even lift my forward heal up a bit for a larger twist. 275-300
you forgot basketball , so anyway about 15 yrs ago i did that and couldnt believe how well it worked and how effortless it was, then i lost that feel and now it will be nice to get that back again, Thanks!
I always struggling to understand how an actual club face movement prior to impact. There were hundreds dozens of videos that just couldn't explain it well and did it their way. I remembered when I started hitting golf for the fitst time, I managed to hit quite far with flipping although the posture was not there. But since trying to master the 'right way' , the distance disappeared. Hope this new revelation would gain me 50-80 extra yards. Thanks.
I saw Jack Nicklaus video he said he released at top of swing but you would have to get yourhips n shoulders to turn inget the timing right it boils down to practice n feel lots of practice
What if you already do this. I’m not sure if I do or I don’t . I feel that I might . It’s definitely something to think about. It seems natural to do this . I’ve never heard anything about it one way or another.
I tried this with my golf radar with trail arm only swings using both the conventional way and this way. it was about 5mph on average faster and the club face felt more stable
You have a great visualization of WHAT happens in a proper swing, but the actual mechanics are explained in detail in the pages of this book - Four Magic Moves by Joe Dante.
And Hogan pounded that ball, people have said the sound of impact for Hogan was different than most other golfers. Also when he was younger, they had long drive contests before tournaments and he won those often.
I was always taught you need that forward shaft lean so you hit the ball first then the ground so no fat shots! Plus, that's how you find your low point in the swing?
If you combine Steve's lesson with a walk through drill the results will be startling. He's absolutely correct, you have to shift your body weight first or you're gonna cast/flip.
Any player with a little sporting background and playing experience knows this Steve... you have to release the club at the bottom of the swing in other words rotate the right hand through impact at the correct time. Timing is the key ... Am I right ? Damn straight I am. Any other type move and you don't achieve max power and yardage and also a clean center strike on the club head.
Absolutely the right thing to do but mastering this timing is much harder than you make it look. Sounds crazy but I have tried to master this with a putter, if you hit a normal putt and then hit a putt where to get the right wrist working as you describe at impact the ball travels way further. Have you got any drills to help master this wrist speed?
You’re 100% right on. The internet’s #1 instructor, Mike Malaska, has been teaching (and dealing with the same objections) for years.
I used to throw the club head at the ball with great results until I was convinced that my bad shots during a round was the result of me adding loft by flipping the club head through the swing. So, I started paying attention to keeping my wrist locked throughout the swing. I attributed the loos of distance to my age and missed the fact that it was the sequence of my swing that was what was causing the bad shots during a round.
Your GREAT video has showed me that it is the SEQUENCE of my swing that was causing the occasional bad shots. I have friends who are in their late 50’s to early 70’s who drive the ball 250-300 yards with swings that look effortless.
You have made it so clear that the sequence of my swing is an important element that I must fix along with the loading and unloading of my wrist. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT VIDEO. I can’t wait to get to the range today to start working on my swing.
David Duvall was taught to throw the club behind his left side so he could feel the right wrist going into full flexion. No rotation, just full extension to full flexion. Great video...add pulling the left shoulder back as you go from extension and the increased whip forces flexion.
you have just s ed my game. i have been hitting it shorter and shorter until i saw and watched this video.
it is exactly how i have naturally played and it convinced me to go to my old swing back. yesterday i played a round and i hit further with my drives n wood and shot a 87. i am 79 years old. thank you
Spot on Steve. Speed in the golf swing comes from the hands. Your wrists and hands are the tip of the whip and holding your wrist angles will kill distance. That is the secret to 200yd 7 iron all the pros make look so easy.
But the end of the whip is loose.
@@thegreenkeeper2537 yes. Just like your wrists should be. Tension in the forearms and wrists kills speed. Next time you practice, consciously relax your arms and hands (keep the fingers firmly around the club obviously) and see if there’s a difference. Some other factors in the overall swing are in play but with less tension, most people will set their wrists, get some natural lag and release the stored up power more naturally.
@@scottc1281 Mike Malaska showing how fast the hands are and how slow the body is ua-cam.com/video/d7PUHEA9pn8/v-deo.html yet most amateurs try to lunge with their body to create speed
Yup I got this from Mike Malaska also. Been working on it for a couple of weeks. It is a game changer! Just don’t forget step and rotate then snap.
Great video
Love Mike.
Great video 💯 % on point. People who dont agree with you dont know what they are missing. Great job. Thanks for your videos
It's so true Steve!, Yes I also been fooled by this from slow motion photos and videos, and from my Golf coaches, Thank you so much for Great Video!
Great video. I figured this move out this year when a fellow golfer at my club mentioned how hard I was gripping the club. Once I reduced grip pressure I was able to,get the same / more distance with much less effort, and the best thing of all was that my dispersion massively improved. My handicap has come down from 18 to 13, and I think there is much more to come. The main challenge is to believe in it, not allow myself to tense up / try to steer the ball.
I lost about 2.5 years of my golf life not doing this. I got so stuck in this mechanical “hold your wrist” swing, I got to the point where I couldn’t even hit a ball consistently. I darn near quit the game. My back was constantly hurting. I started doing this move at the beginning of the season and golf is so much more fun. You have to be free and use your levers. Let the darn club head go. Let it snap like a towel.
Same. I was always a powerful hitter in other sports. Bad golf coaching destroyed my intrinsic athleticism.
Steve as usual an outstanding description lof the subject with clear explanations. You’re definitely one of the best teachers on the net. Mike Malaska is great and so are you. I have been following you for years and must say that you’re right on. You don’t use click bait like some do. And by the way you don’t take forty minutes to explain something when you can do it in five. I appreciate your expertise.
Wow, thanks!
From France. Rarely put comments on chanels. This has to be one of the best advice. Thanks Steve and keep up the outstanding work.
Great video and so true! I’m thinking of some old time swings like Bobby Jones and George Knudson, with that relaxed, free snap at the bottom. Many thanks for reminding me of this as I get older.
Your a great teacher of the game Steve,, I love the way you explain the swing,,,,,an old Veteran
Thanks much Joseph!
I'm 51 and played professionally in my 20's. Injuries got in the way so I went into teaching for a while then on to a non golf job. I actually quit playing for about 15 years but I thought about the golf swing a lot. My old swing was lead side dominant. The straight left arm and body rotation pulled the club through impact. I was young, big and fast and I hit it long and straight. Add 20 years and 25lbs and I'm not capable of producing that speed with my body. I studied Tiger's swing and realized his body was trying to keep up with his hands. So I started playing again about 2 years ago. I worked becoming a trail side dominant player. I "throw" the club from the top at the ball BUT I don't cast the club. There is a difference. When you open the shoulders or start with the shoulders you have to cast the club in order to make contact. This produces a low left to left hook. I struggled for a while to figure out the sequence of the down swing. Then I heard a golf announcer talk about Cory Conner's swing. He said Conner's does a great job keeping his back to the target like Jack Nicklaus often talked about. It all clicked. I went to the range that day and figured out a relatively slow backswing, then nanosecond pause at the top, then swinging my hands with back to the target longer produced a perfect slightly inside out path. I hit a few fat until I realized ball position has to move back to accommodate the more shallow swing. I'm 6' 220lbs 51 years old. Driver club speed while playing is 108 to 110. I carry the ball 280+ and consistently roll it out well past 300 yards. I've worked my handicap back to a +2 and I hope I stay healthy and can play at a high level into my 60s. This " move" is not new it's actually old. The real terminology is releasing the club. There is a series of videos on UA-cam called the Rotary Swing that goes into more detail. my keys are swing under control, back to the target and DROP the hands through. The way you k or it's right is if you can get the club to parallel in the follow through and your right hand is in perfect position to shake someone's hand. If you want to draw imagine your being loose and faster. A fade your wrist will be more stiff and the release is slower.
The swing is different for everyone. Feels are different. This works for me and I hope this helps someone play a little better.
Steve, you've already changed my game for the better. I'm looking forward to trying this tomorrow! The challenge remains in the sequence/timing of the process. I agree. This wrist action is demonized because "most" of us struggle with sequencing even before this wrist move. That is why - with your help - I have worked hard of late to "look like a golfer" while practicing WITHOUT a golf ball. Videos of my swing were horrendous! I looked weird swinging, regardless of where the ball went because my goal was to hit a ball far instead of properly. By exposing this wrist action, you also address why most of my drives AND iron shots were "fades" (slices). By keeping my wrist rigid, my rotation and club face contributed to all manner of mis-hits. So, I have dedicated myself to looking like a golfer FIRST and measuring the result secondly. I believe this wrist flexion will improve my game. I will listen for the swish before a ball comes into play. Time will tell. Thank you!
I have subscribed to your UA-cam channel and have viewed many of your videos. There are times when you stress right wrist flipping. Other times the left wrist flipping. Which is the primary?
Steve you had a previous video swinging around a tent post, same release. Absolutely awesome instruction. I’ve done this accidently and went from 200m to 273m. I’m a believer. Love your videos.
Great to hear!
The idea of this video is very correct. Too many amateurs try to stop that release of the club. My thoughts are though that if you time the movements together the flexion that Steve talks about here happens without you forcing it. That's what you need to get too. Then you know that you're getting the most power for the least amount of effort. I still think this is a great video to teach the average golfer not to stop your 'release'.
Excellent information. I tried to explain a snapping motion versus a “swing “. Love the video, my problem is repeating the motion.
I will try to focus on this more. I grew up playing baseball so I definitely can see where you are coming from on this
I tried this last week steve and bloody hell i hit the ball so well.the sound of clubhead on ball was totally different. I did hit a couple right but majority were fantastic.
Great video. Going to try this at the range tomorrow. I always hit straight but freeze at impact to square club path to ball.
Steve I’m 72. I find your videos very helpful and informative. However I am still struggling to hit my drives more than 180 yards + or - . However occasionally and only occasional maybe 240 which is where I was able to do most of the time 15 years ago. Which leads me to believe it’s still in there but my timing is just a little bit off. I have considered trying to come to see you however I’m in Georgia and I think you are in California. Not sure if I can afford that trip
Any ideas on getting some help. This video gives me something else to try and maybe this’ll be the fix. Thanks again for what I’ve learned so far.
Bobby
This move took me from 240 to 275 driver carry overnight. The swing around the pole drill is my new favorite. I imagine the pole behind the ball with driver and slightly ahead of the ball with irons.
Great!
Steve is the only one who helped me improving my long game.can hit iron 6 190yards now and am really happy
I agree 100%, I've used this method for many years. the power at the flexion point is key to my longer drives. I always referred to it, as wrist cocking,
I showed a friend of mine who swung stiff armed, he had no distance, I told him he needed to do wrist cock ( flexion ) after he learned to do this, he thanked me for the advice, said it helped his distance a lot. THANKS.
Thanks Steve! This is an excellent video. Padraig Harrington briefly spoke on this in one of his tips.
You are right on. Thank you for confirming for us ‘naturals’ who follow our instincts what is the right thing to do. You are our hero. Thanks.
Great video!
Will save and watch a few more times -- and then try to "do it" in my 75-year-old man's swing.
Thank you,
Tom
At 14 I won a junior tourn by shooting 71 from the men's tees on a course that was approx 7,000 yds. This was back in the early 70s. Played with a set of Tommy Armour irons and woods and used a spinny Titleist. Beat the #2 all AF guy at 15 to win the base championship. Once in a while my left wrist would hurt. And people commented that I came off the ground when hitting the ball. I only weighed 120 lbs at 5'2" at the time but could carry the ball 230 back then. Had I not listened to my "elders" I could of made something of my golf talent. If you have a scrawny little kid who really knows how to put on the brakes and transfer momentum to the head of a golf club encourage it. It's the real way to hit a golf ball.
Thanks for the wonderful story!
Great video I agree 100% Mike Malaska teaches the same method
It works, I use it for my 6 iron always and I think i picked up that technique on the range.
Many thanks, wish you showed a few strikes with your data from your Track man. Would be very interesting to see.
Absolutely true ! Many golf "coaches" see still photographs and try to interpret from those. It really is not possible to teach unathletic people to play any sport and golf is particularly the case.
😅 Yes!... ever since I happened on my first Austin vid (which lead me to your channel BTW), Ball has never flown straighter. Caution however.. my left wrist was in too much extension and I tweaked on the down swing (they do work in pairs🙄). The flip is actually a release at the right time.
I think where folks get mixed up about this is they don't rotate so they think this is a flip when the issue is no rotation. No rotation...yes it is a flip. Rotate correctly and this is the swing! Great video. As an aside, I find it mildly humorous that some instructors will use the very same videos and images of Hogan and others to illustrate how one should keep ones hands and wrists quiet.
It will never be a flip if the body is in the right position when doing it, that's the hard part to accomplish, great video
Love this Steve! Great video.
Steve, thanks for this video. I’m a righty and hit the ball with my left arm doing most of the work in the swing. I grip very loosely with my right hand. This has helped me tremendously with my coming over the top. I think my right wrist is in flexion. Can you explain this from your lead hand position?
Lead forearm supinates at the ball as it goes into wrist extension.
@@Inmotion70 kinda like your hitchhiking?
This bit of flip also can square up the club face for many as holding the set wrist can leave the face open. When you bend the wrist back it does not keep club face square it naturally opens some, but flipping the wrist back before impact squares the face up try it.
I tell others all the time, "if you can throw a ball, you can golf." Most everyone already know how to throw a ball. The tricky part is to convert the throwing movement into a golf swing.
Just try throwing a ball at the addressed position of the golf ball.
12 o’clock target.
Throw towards 1 for straight/draw.
Throw towards 11 for fades.
Adjust times to suit your habits.
PenguinGolf
This is a great video. Reminds me of Monte Scheinblum’s no turn cast drill.
Just caught the vid. Wow! Watched it 3 times. It answers my one big question. ‘How do they do it’? All the great golfers(especially with mid short irons, seem effortlessly (ie Justin rose at 24 Open) hit 278 yds with an 8 iron.! I started to think they’d been to the crossroads (guitar freaks will know what I mean!) but this explains what’s going on. One question, are both wrists getting into this or just the ‘trail’ wrist? Won’t the forward wrist ‘resist’ this action?
Thanks
The left wrist goes along. Helps to have a firm grip with loose wrists. Be sure to watch Monte’s updated videos on this. He now says to throw the club to 4 o’clock at the top and then 8 o’clock thru impact if 12 o’clock is the ball.
Get the left wrist supinated or extremely flexed at the top of the swing then you can release both wrists through the ball to a high hands finish
Your point is valid and biomechanically correct. However, only hitting a baseball/softball is analogous to the golf swing because these actions use an implement to hit an independent object. Throwing a ball, javelin or other object benefits from the wrist flexing to transfer energy, but...they are not hitting an independent object. Mike's point is valid so that all the energy transferred to the club head contacts the golf ball. My clarification is a minor biomechanical point because the ball will travel in the direction of contact with the club face. Mike makes this point in many other lessons.
Take a look at VJ Singh's swing in his prime. His trail wrist not only flexes it actually comes off the club in flexion. Cheers.
He and Couples might be the ultimate examples. VJ was #1 in career earnings for awhile!
Same with Phil btw. Perhaps not the ideal example of accuracy but he's been hitting bombs all his life.
That is one beautiful hitting area there.❤
I know right - I am just jealous of that practice area!
One good practice tool for this is to use a very flexible training club, like the lag shot. If you can't hit it as far as your regular club or keep slicing it, you are not throwing the club head properly.
I have been doing a motion like this for a while now and I have gone from 120mph too 140mph ballspeed is 203 and the ball doesn't go off line it's actually very accurate.
The loose feeling and softness on it all feels like I flop my hands into the ball but unload it fully there is very little effort Steve may I join you for a lesson some day
I hit golf sized tennis balls against a wall in my basement, they are slightly denser than foam balls, but I have hit 5000 plus shots against this wall and never put more than a smudge on the wall.... Got up while watching this video, attempted the wrist flex and put the first dent in my wall first swing.... thought it was a fluke, second and third swing made it so I can't swing in the house anymore... pretty neat!
Wow cool!
Where do you get those golf sized tennis balls?
If this is correct, then I was definitely coached out of a good swing when I started playing 30 years ago. My best shot felt effortless and everyone said I had such a smooth swing with little tension. So I decided to take lessons and was told not to flip. What he should have told me was how to sequence because I was just not rotating. It is amazing what one bad lesson can do to years of golf. I'm going back to the flap!
You sir are correct, this is an easier way to strike the ball, snap through for power
A great example regarding accuracy is darts players, they absolutely do this, and their targets are tiny in comparison, yet they are deadly accurate.
The clubhead is like a free flying object at the moment of impact, as you describe, freewheeling through the ball.
It 100% works, I copied it from darts throwers, then I saw your video.
Loved it! Curious about what you think about this. I think one reason this move gets demonized is because people stop turning and/or the handle lifts and opens the face. If you stop turning then you will hook.
This doesn't work for the people who early extend and stand up because their rotation stalls. They have to pull the handle and hold the wrist to get ball first contact.
I've wondered about this myself so now I'm going to try it, I will let you know how I get on
This is how James Braid woke up one day able to hit a 380 yard drive back in 1890.
Push/slap works best from a more centered ball position.
man that is a bad ass range, where is that located?
Hey Steve, I noticed your take away is a tiny curved. I used to do that and had slight fade. After lessons with course pro I slice or snap slice like a really bent banana. Can't seem to get the old swing back. Can you do a swing drill with the driver please.
Saw a video of David Duvall, saying something very similar, throwing from the top, also similar to one of your videos.
Fully agreed, Steve. When we hold onto the club, the arms become stiff and we are hitting the ball, which is not as fast as when we whip the club head through the ball with soft, snappy wrist.
Padraig Harrington says exactly this. Shaft lean is a static photo taken on a dynamic position. That static photo of a moving person has destroyed so many golf swings through the years. Nothing athletic is done with a static joint, rather timed as to when the wrist 'flips' so that its post impact rather than pre!
This motion in combination with pushing against the lead leg results in going from linear to radial acceleration - using that whip or towel - just dont forget to clear your hip and tilt enough….
Another game changer for me. I have to work on range before I commit to good or bad.
great video, thanks Steve
Ex ball player who got old and self taught in golf. Im 63 and like smacking the ball. Ive always hit like this, I usually start with a more gentle position at first but as I get the timing down i crank it up, i even lift my forward heal up a bit for a larger twist. 275-300
Love it!
great video
This has to be one of the best golf instruction videos I’ve ever seen.
Great video well explained
Nothing in history destroyed more golf swings than the picture of the lag position of Sergio Garcia that was everywhere.
you forgot basketball , so anyway about 15 yrs ago i did that and couldnt believe how well it worked and how effortless it was, then i lost that feel and now it will be nice to get that back again, Thanks!
Great call.
Great video. Not enough attention is paid to these intricacies.
I always struggling to understand how an actual club face movement prior to impact. There were hundreds dozens of videos that just couldn't explain it well and did it their way. I remembered when I started hitting golf for the fitst time, I managed to hit quite far with flipping although the posture was not there. But since trying to master the 'right way' , the distance disappeared. Hope this new revelation would gain me 50-80 extra yards. Thanks.
I saw Jack Nicklaus video he said he released at top of swing but you would have to get yourhips n shoulders to turn inget the timing right it boils down to practice n feel lots of practice
What if you already do this. I’m not sure if I do or I don’t . I feel that I might . It’s definitely something to think about. It seems natural to do this . I’ve never heard anything about it one way or another.
I tried this with my golf radar with trail arm only swings using both the conventional way and this way. it was about 5mph on average faster and the club face felt more stable
To gain control, we must first lose control. Thanks for watching.
You have a great visualization of WHAT happens in a proper swing, but the actual mechanics are explained in detail in the pages of this book - Four Magic Moves by Joe Dante.
Mike Malaska teaches the same wrist motion
Mike Malaska
Thanks, Steve 👍🏼
it works!
good piece. David Duval too.
And Hogan pounded that ball, people have said the sound of impact for Hogan was different than most other golfers. Also when he was younger, they had long drive contests before tournaments and he won those often.
Excellent... really marvellous! Thanks.
I was always taught you need that forward shaft lean so you hit the ball first then the ground so no fat shots! Plus, that's how you find your low point in the swing?
You could add Ernie Ells intoxicating that East swing no effort swish.
Cool! Is this the 50th or 60th time you've made a video about this?
I have that same polo. You have good taste 🤙🏻
Black is slimming! :)
I feel like this caused me to cast when I actively tried to do it before. But I'm at a different phase of my golf swing now.
Same technique for the driver?
David Duval's swing is this all the way.
100%. Great video!
The feeling I have is axing the ball with the far edge of the iron, turning through it results square. Same idea, alternate thought, smooth rules.
The great Sam Snead was an advocate of this and it worked out well for him😎
Another fine lesson and example of sudden quickness. Thank you muchly
Most of the past GOAT's released like that, trying to hold that wrist caused me to slice for years.
Same
Simply AMAZING
What a great video lesson
I feel like I owe you money
Thank you for helping us bad swingers
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If you combine Steve's lesson with a walk through drill the results will be startling. He's absolutely correct, you have to shift your body weight first or you're gonna cast/flip.
Any player with a little sporting background and playing experience knows this Steve... you have to release the club at the bottom of the swing in other words rotate the right hand through impact at the correct time. Timing is the key ... Am I right ? Damn straight I am. Any other type move and you don't achieve max power and yardage and also a clean center strike on the club head.
Could u use both a firm wrist then a timed flip?
Why would you want a firm wrist?
I added this ro my speed training. The difference is 160 mph ball speed jumps to 176
Absolutely the right thing to do but mastering this timing is much harder than you make it look. Sounds crazy but I have tried to master this with a putter, if you hit a normal putt and then hit a putt where to get the right wrist working as you describe at impact the ball travels way further.
Have you got any drills to help master this wrist speed?
Check out my wrap the pole drill.