This is an excellent format for demo video. We hear decent playing, IN TUNE, and the same riff for all examples. You show the relevant information for pedals and settings WITHOUT TALKING. Just beautiful! A+++ !!!
Thanks for this video. I have both. I started years ago with the Line6POD2.1 with extended floarboard, and used this on stage with an keyboard amp. Nice simple and light stack. But always a digital high sizzle in it. After the line 6 came the Digitech RP 50, 150, 250, 255 and the 1000. All great but all digital sounding, digital fizzy high end. Then came along the Zoom G3Xn. Wow what a difference. Very good sounds as you can hear in this excellent demo. I was fully happy with the sounds and with the ability to use it like a chain of stomboxes, just as the RP1000. Then I bought the G1Xon because I was curious and the toy did not break the bank, the G1on with expression pedal. This little plastic toy sound exactly like in this demo. I find the G3Xn more crispy and clean sounding while I hear in the G1on a dull muffled simulation. I play through the FXrec line of my solidstate Fender deLuxe. But I found a trick: I love the clean Fender sound. I use this the most. For an amp simulator is a clean sound the most difficult. So I dialed a very nice clean fender simulation on both machines. Amp, reverb, and 2x12 cab in both but after the 2x12 cab in the G1Xon I placed the exciter effect in this device. Bham., pristine Fender cleans. Much better, smoother, tubyer, nicer sound after some fiddling with the knobs. I am selling the G3Xn and keep the plastic toy. I do not play on stage anymore so I do not need the big advantage of the stompbox mode from the G3Xn. For the owners of the G1on I will advise: try this abnormal configuration. Try all the simulations with the exciter after the cab. Great sound.
@@MinecraftianRaihan Agree, the G3Xn has more warmth and natural sound. The Gion (which I think is a great littel pedal) seems to have more digital fizz and less natural depth to its tone
I have both and I have compared them for a year. The G1on has a much smoother sound, better and natural. I am selling the G3Xn and keeping the little plastic toy.
A lot of the amp models are very similar between the G3X and G1on, but overall I think the G1on sounded better. Strange since it's a fair bit older and a quarter of the price...
They all sound the same in real live gigs. Those talkers will check the price and decide which is better. I choose G1on with a better DI box. Cabinet emulate solves all "plastic" feel in modern multi-effects.
Dont get fooled by the aspect! (Like I did) I have both units... ZOOM is much more complex, flexible and potent... AND IT HAS A LOOPER AND A DRUM MACHINE... The VOX first 100 presets can not be changed... You have only 20 user programmable presets... Whereas the ZOOM presets will keep every tweak you do with an "auto safe" function... YOU DONT HAVE TO SAFE!!! Then I dont know why but the volume and character I get using Stomplab with phones is ridiculous, whereas the ZOOM is brilliant...
I have both and I'm a little disappointed that the g1on sounds better, especially using it live, the g3xn doesn't sound as good as the g1on with real amps
Listening through Genelec 1030a studio monitors. The G3X sounded better on all amp models. But i noticed that you were not using the same settings, gain, eq etc. so its hard to do an exact comparison. However, the g1ON is way cheaper, and it think that it will be usable with a little bit of tweaking for people on a budget...
Zoremmawia Pachuau Yes, I’ve been wanting to test them both using studio monitors. Correct, I just used the default settings. So I guess more of a default setting amp comparison. I think of updating the comparison using the same settings and also eliminating the cabsim & Reverb and let them both use the same IR and Reverb. Thanks for the feedback. Always great to hear different points of views and different ways to compare these devices.
Hi Chris, having experienced them both first hand, which one did YOU think is better, purely in terms of audio quality. I’m finding the older model better in most cases… isn’t that odd. Also what about effects proper. Did you compare them at the time. Thanks a ton.
I have a soft spot in my music heart for the Zoom G1on. It was very affordable, small and sounded great. I think the G3Xn sounded good but I think I prefer the G1on. I think a lot of it has to do with your use case. I mostly play at home or occasionally with some friends, so the G1on being a small plastic box doesn’t bother me but the G3Xn is more rugged and built for the stage IMO. You can’t load IR’s on either but you can disable the cab sim per each patch and use an external IR pedal, which might give you an even better sound. The effects on each are good but the G1on being older means you might not have current “normal” effects, like reverb shimmer, as an example.
@@Tone-Quest Like you said, it must come down to usage habits and all that. The older device is underrated - I have heard it (a friend has it) and it sounds great. Unfortunately I don’t have the newer one to compare and its not possible where I live. I have actually decided on a Boss GT1. But the G5n was on my consideration set for a long time, it has even more features. Anyways, have fun. Cheers and thanks for the reply!
Please, a question to you all: yes, the little one is very good, but can be as versatile as his bigger brother in editing, linking features to an amp or P. A. and computer? Can they both be edited by a computer and load some external IR? Which is the order of the parameters in their internal chain (as gate>amp>loudspeaker>distortion> etc....)? The guitarist in my band has the G1on and connect it in the main input in front of the amp, and I don't know if the G3Xn can be linked, if it is a better option, to the back loop fx of an amp. This since I would like to purchase one of these two, and try to seriously study and support him with another guitar in the band. Thanks!
Apparently, constructive discussion gets deleted here. Again, for the record, listening on studio monitors and high quality headphones, the G1 is no match for the G3. I just hope the folks that prefer and buy the G1 critically listened on an accurate, honest listening system.
I agree. I'm listening through a set of active studio monitors and the G1 has a much flatter, 2 dimensional sound where as the G3 has a more natural, 3 dimensional and dynamic sound. Both sound good, don't get me wrong, but the G3 just sounds more like a natural rig setup while the G1 sounds slightly processed.
G3 series share the same amps and processor of the g1on. Soundwise is the same. So there's no need for a g3 comparison. G3N and G3 are two different multifx...
There is one area where ai do think the g1 is better and that is the responsive nature it has when it comes to tweaking. The g3 is better DSP wise but it is too rigid in my opinion.
So make a verison of my video but translate it into Spanish? I'm afraid my Spanish isn't good enough for that but maybe I could use Google Translator? ¿Hacer una versión de mi video pero traducirla al español? Me temo que mi español no es lo suficientemente bueno para eso, pero tal vez podría usar Google Translator?
True both Zoom Pedals have a built-in Looper but I wanted a loop that could play into each pedal, in hopes to get the Chords or riff played the exact same way each time.
Hmm... weird. ... I like mids of the G3Xn more, but I like the highs and lows of the G1on more. I personally know how versatile and detailed a guitarist can tweak the G1on, So I'm going to give the edge to the G1on.
Not saying this is best answer but from pedals that I have played through, I think the Digitech RP360XP might give you a more realistic representation of a Fender Twin. I have a video with some sound samples that might give you an idea if you like it better than the Zoom pedals. ua-cam.com/video/p5PEg8QAB0A/v-deo.html
Hey can some one tell me wich sounds better ?, G3X or G3Xn, I really want to buy the G3X because it has a built in interface but I want to know which sounds better.
No problem, I want to buy the G3X on this Christmas, did you tried the G3Xn connected to PC through the headpone out and then into the PC ? (so G3Xn headphone out -> Line In port PC),will the quality of the sound decrease if I will connect it like that ,without an interface ?
sykaTHEoNe No I didn’t try connecting it to the PC that way but I don’t see why you couldn’t, as long as you watch the level and don’t clip the signal. I have a USB audio interface, which works well for me.
high gain, bridge pickup, EQ for more high end, and/or compression (with makeup gain). This is what I do for my AC/DC patch (on Zoom G1xon), or anything similar that I need a bluesy rock type pinch harmonic sound.
@@Tone-Quest whenever i use an amp model (clean or higain) there is a buzz background. Using noise gate partially solves the problem. When i dont play, no buzz but when i play i hear that buzz again. I use the batteries for power
PUPPER_EMERITUS Interesting, I would think not. I’m sure the processor in it is doing all the work and I would think it would either work or not but not degrade over time. Just a guess on my part though.
@@Tone-Quest well I wanna upgrade to a g3xn so should I or not. I play lot of progressive , funk blues rock jazz and metal . If the g3xn is the jack of all trades I need to know. By the way your videos are great
PUPPER_EMERITUS Thanks for the positive feedback, it is super appreciated. I’m a huge Zoom fan but I wasn’t overly blown away by the G3Xn. If you can try before buying I would highly recommend it. The G3Xn did seem great for a guitarist who played gigs, as you have a lot of control over a patch while just using you foot, like turning individual effects on and off in a patch. I recently bought a Boss GT-1 and was blown away by price, size and sound. If you can, I would also say it would be worth your while to look the Boss GT-1. The other multi-effects that looks interesting in that price range is the Mooer GE-200. I haven’t try one yet but I have hopes to soon. Good luck with purchasing you next effects pedal. 🤟🏻😀🤟🏻
Tricky comparison. The G1on isn’t being made any more but used the run from $50-$100. The G3n new is ~$200. The G1on is plastic and is fine for home use. The G3n is a sturdy metal chassis and can be used in gigs or at home. If you can find a G1on for $50, I would say that is the best bang for your buck.
Wait, wait, wait... you didn't really place the reverb BEFORE the cabsim with the G3xn, did you? Also, I pretty much think that your virtual mic choice and hi/lo filters in the cab section of the G3xn were suboptimal for this comparison. In the end, making a meaningful comparison isn't easy. There's no such thing as a benchmark tone, so each user has to decide for themselves which unit can sound closest to what they expect... by getting one and tweak it themselves.
YTOnceAgain Yes, I put the Reverb before the cabsim on the G3Xn. Not saying that is the only or best way, just setting it up, the way I do in the real world. Agree 100% on comparing like this but it is a request that comes up a lot, to compare one pedal, amp, guitar...etc to another like component. Sound and preference is such a personal thing. None the less, I try to compare in hopes that it might help others make a decision as to an effect they like or don’t like. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers!
Thanks for the anwer. Well, yes, there are real life applications where the cab would be after reverb and such - typically when you run these effects in the loop of your guitar amp. However, as with the G1on the reverb is after the cab, I would have done this with the G3nx too. The way the comparison is set up now, there are just too many variables. Just as a tip: If you want to say compare the pure amp(sim)-tone, you should use the very same reverb for both, so you probably want to use a reverb in your DAW. Then, you might want to choose cabsims in each unit that makes them sound as similar as possible. To then show how much of the sound(-difference) is due to the different cabsims, you run them thru the very same cabsim, for example an IR in the DAW. A bit like this: ua-cam.com/video/EtZlAzVQ7EE/v-deo.html But yeah... unless you compare a supposedly perfect clone to the original, there simply is no best method. :-) Cheers.
All of the sound samples are a comparison of the similar amp models between the G3Xn & the G1on based on their default settings. I added a noise gate and some reverb to each patch just to help make it quiet and not so dry.
@@Tone-Quest Ok, but if you make more comparisons, I suggest you use same and same setting in patches of both to compare the timbre of the pedals. Thank you!
Sorry, but this comparison is almost completely useless, since G1on had mic emulation in cab settings turned off, while G3xn had it on. As far as I know, this line has similar models so they should sound completely identical.
Zoom The G1on doesn’t have a mic emulation. So I wouldn’t say it was off, just that there is no way to control it and yes, more then likely these two pedals should sound similar but the only way to know how close they are or aren’t, is to try it. Cheers
Hey Chris, I think I've misinterpreted the "Out" parameter of G1on. My bad. Judging from user manual, selecting "Line" should result in a mic-emulated sound. However, as we see, it's not the same between these processors. The way to test if the models are the same between two units is to compare the models without the cab simulation altogether (maybe using IR cab simulation in post, just to tame the sound for listening purposes).
I got a Zoom G3X and sounds different than G3Xn, the N series has an improvised tone, but the G3X is better than G3Xn, G3X has better tone and a built in USB interface.
Yes but G3 is better than G1on because of it's features and effects, it doesn't matter the tool you are using, it matters how you use it, it matters if you know how to use it. At sound I think you are right, but the G3 got some updates, and it sounds much better.
This is stated in the video, amps load with default settings...thus I'm trying to show what Zoom has configured for the default setting of each amp on each pedal.
@@Tone-Quest OK Thanks for your answer. So do you think we can have almost the same result with any kind of multi effects pedal ? Tricking with the settings I mean, cause I'm lost between all those gears we can buy now. Recently I bought the Hélix Stomp . It's extremely complete, but also complicate'n expensive, at first, I was thinking of the G5n which sounds great too. PS: I hope my english is good enough to be understood. Thanks for you answer.
@@manouel8746 Hey Buddy, not sure if I understand completely but if you have the Helix Stomp I would think you can configure a lot of different sounds/patches with it. It is a great unit with lots of amps and effects but true...a little expensive. I think each pedal is different, especially in the amps, so it is just a matter of finding the amps you like and tweaking the settings until you are happy.
@@Tone-Quest "tweaking the settings" and not "tricking the settings" , ok thanks I got it. I think the same , I watched a lot of videos on multi effects . Every pedal has is own sound , like every amp . Finally it's a question of taste and choice. I appreciate the fact that you answered to me rapidly and honestly . Have a good evening Mrs Chris. See you.
The newer Zoom's win for me simply because we have been able to reverse engineer so much of the midi/patch/FX. Check out Mungewell's Zoom-zt2 github.com/mungewell/zoom-zt2 and my ZoomPedalFun github.com/shooking/ZoomPedalFun especially on how a GCE-3 can be remote controlled. I like my B1On better than B1XFour because it has particles reverb. But the G3n has this, as does the GCE-3. I made some breakthru in generating IDs from the ZDL (old FX files) but still cannot control the B1On as completely as the newer n series. I was fairly sure the B1On has MIC settings in the Amp.
This is an excellent format for demo video. We hear decent playing, IN TUNE, and the same riff for all examples. You show the relevant information for pedals and settings WITHOUT TALKING. Just beautiful! A+++ !!!
Thanks for the positive feedback. Much appreciated !!!
Thanks for this video. I have both. I started years ago with the Line6POD2.1 with extended floarboard, and used this on stage with an keyboard amp. Nice simple and light stack. But always a digital high sizzle in it. After the line 6 came the Digitech RP 50, 150, 250, 255 and the 1000. All great but all digital sounding, digital fizzy high end. Then came along the Zoom G3Xn. Wow what a difference. Very good sounds as you can hear in this excellent demo. I was fully happy with the sounds and with the ability to use it like a chain of stomboxes, just as the RP1000. Then I bought the G1Xon because I was curious and the toy did not break the bank, the G1on with expression pedal. This little plastic toy sound exactly like in this demo. I find the G3Xn more crispy and clean sounding while I hear in the G1on a dull muffled simulation. I play through the FXrec line of my solidstate Fender deLuxe. But I found a trick: I love the clean Fender sound. I use this the most. For an amp simulator is a clean sound the most difficult. So I dialed a very nice clean fender simulation on both machines. Amp, reverb, and 2x12 cab in both but after the 2x12 cab in the G1Xon I placed the exciter effect in this device. Bham., pristine Fender cleans. Much better, smoother, tubyer, nicer sound after some fiddling with the knobs. I am selling the G3Xn and keep the plastic toy. I do not play on stage anymore so I do not need the big advantage of the stompbox mode from the G3Xn. For the owners of the G1on I will advise: try this abnormal configuration. Try all the simulations with the exciter after the cab. Great sound.
Great feedback and thanks for the little experiment to try. \m/
Strange...G1 seems better than G3Xn, it is clear and crisp
Stefano Ciurleo I agree with you, which still makes the G1on an amazing deal for $50.
It’s a lil too high in kids tho, the g3xn sounds more natural
@@MinecraftianRaihan to me its a shame they took off the balanced out that there was on the old G3.
@@MinecraftianRaihan Agree, the G3Xn has more warmth and natural sound. The Gion (which I think is a great littel pedal) seems to have more digital fizz and less natural depth to its tone
I have both and I have compared them for a year. The G1on has a much smoother sound, better and natural. I am selling the G3Xn and keeping the little plastic toy.
A lot of the amp models are very similar between the G3X and G1on, but overall I think the G1on sounded better. Strange since it's a fair bit older and a quarter of the price...
the thing that makes it sound different is that you've turned on the mic input on the cabinet simulator, zoom g3xn still sounds way better
They all sound the same in real live gigs. Those talkers will check the price and decide which is better. I choose G1on with a better DI box. Cabinet emulate solves all "plastic" feel in modern multi-effects.
Dont get fooled by the aspect! (Like I did) I have both units... ZOOM is much more complex, flexible and potent... AND IT HAS A LOOPER AND A DRUM MACHINE... The VOX first 100 presets can not be changed... You have only 20 user programmable presets... Whereas the ZOOM presets will keep every tweak you do with an "auto safe" function... YOU DONT HAVE TO SAFE!!! Then I dont know why but the volume and character I get using Stomplab with phones is ridiculous, whereas the ZOOM is brilliant...
I have both and I'm a little disappointed that the g1on sounds better, especially using it live, the g3xn doesn't sound as good as the g1on with real amps
I love g1xon.
I have a g1xon. Didn't knew that it has more amp models than the bigger zooms. Thanks for the info!
Yes but you can dowland and add more amp for the gx3
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Listening through Genelec 1030a studio monitors. The G3X sounded better on all amp models. But i noticed that you were not using the same settings, gain, eq etc. so its hard to do an exact comparison. However, the g1ON is way cheaper, and it think that it will be usable with a little bit of tweaking for people on a budget...
Zoremmawia Pachuau Yes, I’ve been wanting to test them both using studio monitors. Correct, I just used the default settings. So I guess more of a default setting amp comparison. I think of updating the comparison using the same settings and also eliminating the cabsim & Reverb and let them both use the same IR and Reverb. Thanks for the feedback. Always great to hear different points of views and different ways to compare these devices.
Chris Benton a comparison using the same settings would be very very helpful... Keep up the good work
g1xon is great for cleans it would be awesose if it had mic option for distortion
I thought these two pedals, were very similar obviously not they just sound so different real amazed, I have the G1on
Hi Chris, having experienced them both first hand, which one did YOU think is better, purely in terms of audio quality. I’m finding the older model better in most cases… isn’t that odd. Also what about effects proper. Did you compare them at the time. Thanks a ton.
I have a soft spot in my music heart for the Zoom G1on. It was very affordable, small and sounded great. I think the G3Xn sounded good but I think I prefer the G1on. I think a lot of it has to do with your use case. I mostly play at home or occasionally with some friends, so the G1on being a small plastic box doesn’t bother me but the G3Xn is more rugged and built for the stage IMO. You can’t load IR’s on either but you can disable the cab sim per each patch and use an external IR pedal, which might give you an even better sound. The effects on each are good but the G1on being older means you might not have current “normal” effects, like reverb shimmer, as an example.
@@Tone-Quest Like you said, it must come down to usage habits and all that. The older device is underrated - I have heard it (a friend has it) and it sounds great. Unfortunately I don’t have the newer one to compare and its not possible where I live. I have actually decided on a Boss GT1. But the G5n was on my consideration set for a long time, it has even more features. Anyways, have fun. Cheers and thanks for the reply!
How I can get ALIEN settings in G3xn or do we have any replacement 🙂 and what is Level, I'm not getting in G3xn. Pls suggest.
Nice demo Chris, nice and simple.
What would be the perfect setting for soloing in metal style??
i want to see. how it actually sound when used in songs?. they all sound the same if your not carefully listening though.
Can you compare Zoom gx1on to nux mg-100?
Great demo. But the recordings with G3xn sounds like clipping a bit. I wonder if it's because of the device or recording itself.
Thanks for the feedback. I’ll keep a close eye on that in future videos. 👍🏻
Can you please make comparison between G3x vs. G3xn
Sorry but currently, I don't have access to or own the G3x. If I come upon one, I'll be glad to.
thank you for your replay
Im waiting for this too.. (G3xn does not have usb connectivy... the sound quality must be a lot better or it's a downgrade)
xn has the expression pedal
G3 series share the same amps and processor of the g1on. Soundwise is the same. So there's no need for a g3 comparison
Please, a question to you all: yes, the little one is very good, but can be as versatile as his bigger brother in editing, linking features to an amp or P. A. and computer? Can they both be edited by a computer and load some external IR? Which is the order of the parameters in their internal chain (as gate>amp>loudspeaker>distortion> etc....)? The guitarist in my band has the G1on and connect it in the main input in front of the amp, and I don't know if the G3Xn can be linked, if it is a better option, to the back loop fx of an amp. This since I would like to purchase one of these two, and try to seriously study and support him with another guitar in the band. Thanks!
Apparently, constructive discussion gets deleted here. Again, for the record, listening on studio monitors and high quality headphones, the G1 is no match for the G3. I just hope the folks that prefer and buy the G1 critically listened on an accurate, honest listening system.
I agree. I'm listening through a set of active studio monitors and the G1 has a much flatter, 2 dimensional sound where as the G3 has a more natural, 3 dimensional and dynamic sound. Both sound good, don't get me wrong, but the G3 just sounds more like a natural rig setup while the G1 sounds slightly processed.
G3 series share the same amps and processor of the g1on. Soundwise is the same. So there's no need for a g3 comparison.
G3N and G3 are two different multifx...
G1 sounds like a toy next to the G3, glad i found this comparison
I can see my heroes playing through the g3xn but not the g1xon because it doesn't sound like them
There is one area where ai do think the g1 is better and that is the responsive nature it has when it comes to tweaking. The g3 is better DSP wise but it is too rigid in my opinion.
Why aren't you using same pedals and same setting in patches of both g3xn and g1
good question
@@patrickkcs2 yes man
Only then we can see real difference
please !!! G1xon zoom tutorials in spanish.
That you are the only one who examines this pedalera on youtube
no comprendo a que te referis
So make a verison of my video but translate it into Spanish?
I'm afraid my Spanish isn't good enough for that but maybe I could use Google Translator?
¿Hacer una versión de mi video pero traducirla al español?
Me temo que mi español no es lo suficientemente bueno para eso, pero tal vez podría usar Google Translator?
Orlando Castro que dice q su español es malo y no creo que haga los tutoriales en español
Hi! very ggod comparison. Why did you use the tc ditto if you have a looper in the zoom.thx .
True both Zoom Pedals have a built-in Looper but I wanted a loop that could play into each pedal, in hopes to get the Chords or riff played the exact same way each time.
thx for the reply cheers!
Hi Chris, Good, but WHY do you have Gain on every single sound? Not a sparkling clean sound on the whole video! 😭😭😭
Apologies, video was made 6 years ago. I went to a gain stage.
No apologies necessary, Chris! The video was still a super idea!!!
@@ronaldshankland9833 much appreciated but it did get me thinking about doing a part two but this time maybe focus on the cleans.
New guitar? nice comparison
J.A Salazar Thanks, no not a new guitar but one I've had for a few years. It is a great work horse!
Hmm... weird. ... I like mids of the G3Xn more, but I like the highs and lows of the G1on more. I personally know how versatile and detailed a guitarist can tweak the G1on, So I'm going to give the edge to the G1on.
Is there a pedal that does more realistic Fender twin?
Not saying this is best answer but from pedals that I have played through, I think the Digitech RP360XP might give you a more realistic representation of a Fender Twin. I have a video with some sound samples that might give you an idea if you like it better than the Zoom pedals. ua-cam.com/video/p5PEg8QAB0A/v-deo.html
Thanks!
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what about zoom g1on vs zoom g1u?
Very similar, however I noticed he always had the gain higher on the G3xn
bruce sengstock The settings are the default settings for each amp model. So it was not a conscious decision to make one sound better than the other.
Can anyone please help me ....what should I buy.... Which will good for metal between these two
aman singh I think the G1on is a great buy, especially for $50. I think it would depend if you need flexibility or just some good patches/sounds.
Hey can some one tell me wich sounds better ?, G3X or G3Xn, I really want to buy the G3X because it has a built in interface but I want to know which sounds better.
sykaTHEoNe I own the G3Xn but if I had to do it over, I would purchase the G3X. I prefer the sounds and how it is programmed/controlled.
No problem, I want to buy the G3X on this Christmas, did you tried the G3Xn connected to PC through the headpone out and then into the PC ? (so G3Xn headphone out -> Line In port PC),will the quality of the sound decrease if I will connect it like that ,without an interface ?
sykaTHEoNe No I didn’t try connecting it to the PC that way but I don’t see why you couldn’t, as long as you watch the level and don’t clip the signal. I have a USB audio interface, which works well for me.
Ok, I wanted to know if it clips, thank you for reply !
Hey I just bought the G3X, amazing pedal!, sounds very different than the G3Xn.
what would be the settings for pinch harmonics??
high gain, bridge pickup, EQ for more high end, and/or compression (with makeup gain). This is what I do for my AC/DC patch (on Zoom G1xon), or anything similar that I need a bluesy rock type pinch harmonic sound.
Usong amp models of g1on , i get noise. Can you help?
Is the noise from the amp model? Is it a high gain amp? Does your patch need a noise suppressor?
@@Tone-Quest whenever i use an amp model (clean or higain) there is a buzz background. Using noise gate partially solves the problem. When i dont play, no buzz but when i play i hear that buzz again. I use the batteries for power
Can the sound of any multi FX processor degrade over time? Because my g1xon doesn't sound remotely close to this g1on
PUPPER_EMERITUS Interesting, I would think not. I’m sure the processor in it is doing all the work and I would think it would either work or not but not degrade over time. Just a guess on my part though.
@@Tone-Quest well I wanna upgrade to a g3xn so should I or not. I play lot of progressive , funk blues rock jazz and metal . If the g3xn is the jack of all trades I need to know. By the way your videos are great
PUPPER_EMERITUS Thanks for the positive feedback, it is super appreciated. I’m a huge Zoom fan but I wasn’t overly blown away by the G3Xn. If you can try before buying I would highly recommend it. The G3Xn did seem great for a guitarist who played gigs, as you have a lot of control over a patch while just using you foot, like turning individual effects on and off in a patch.
I recently bought a Boss GT-1 and was blown away by price, size and sound. If you can, I would also say it would be worth your while to look the Boss GT-1.
The other multi-effects that looks interesting in that price range is the Mooer GE-200. I haven’t try one yet but I have hopes to soon.
Good luck with purchasing you next effects pedal.
🤟🏻😀🤟🏻
@@Tone-Quest thanks for the advice man.
G1 vs G3 which is best value for money?
Tricky comparison. The G1on isn’t being made any more but used the run from $50-$100. The G3n new is ~$200. The G1on is plastic and is fine for home use. The G3n is a sturdy metal chassis and can be used in gigs or at home. If you can find a G1on for $50, I would say that is the best bang for your buck.
Wait, wait, wait... you didn't really place the reverb BEFORE the cabsim with the G3xn, did you?
Also, I pretty much think that your virtual mic choice and hi/lo filters in the cab section of the G3xn were suboptimal for this comparison.
In the end, making a meaningful comparison isn't easy. There's no such thing as a benchmark tone, so each user has to decide for themselves which unit can sound closest to what they expect... by getting one and tweak it themselves.
YTOnceAgain Yes, I put the Reverb before the cabsim on the G3Xn. Not saying that is the only or best way, just setting it up, the way I do in the real world.
Agree 100% on comparing like this but it is a request that comes up a lot, to compare one pedal, amp, guitar...etc to another like component. Sound and preference is such a personal thing. None the less, I try to compare in hopes that it might help others make a decision as to an effect they like or don’t like.
Thanks for the feedback. Cheers!
Thanks for the anwer. Well, yes, there are real life applications where the cab would be after reverb and such - typically when you run these effects in the loop of your guitar amp. However, as with the G1on the reverb is after the cab, I would have done this with the G3nx too. The way the comparison is set up now, there are just too many variables.
Just as a tip: If you want to say compare the pure amp(sim)-tone, you should use the very same reverb for both, so you probably want to use a reverb in your DAW. Then, you might want to choose cabsims in each unit that makes them sound as similar as possible. To then show how much of the sound(-difference) is due to the different cabsims, you run them thru the very same cabsim, for example an IR in the DAW.
A bit like this: ua-cam.com/video/EtZlAzVQ7EE/v-deo.html
But yeah... unless you compare a supposedly perfect clone to the original, there simply is no best method. :-)
Cheers.
YTOnceAgain Again, great feedback and food for thought for future comparisons. Thanks! 👍🏻
Why aren't you using same pedals and same setting in patches of both g3xn and g1
?
All of the sound samples are a comparison of the similar amp models between the G3Xn & the G1on based on their default settings. I added a noise gate and some reverb to each patch just to help make it quiet and not so dry.
@@Tone-Quest Ok, but if you make more comparisons, I suggest you use
same and same setting in patches of both to compare the timbre of the pedals. Thank you!
Sorry, but this comparison is almost completely useless, since G1on had mic emulation in cab settings turned off, while G3xn had it on. As far as I know, this line has similar models so they should sound completely identical.
Zoom The G1on doesn’t have a mic emulation. So I wouldn’t say it was off, just that there is no way to control it and yes, more then likely these two pedals should sound similar but the only way to know how close they are or aren’t, is to try it. Cheers
Hey Chris, I think I've misinterpreted the "Out" parameter of G1on. My bad. Judging from user manual, selecting "Line" should result in a mic-emulated sound. However, as we see, it's not the same between these processors. The way to test if the models are the same between two units is to compare the models without the cab simulation altogether (maybe using IR cab simulation in post, just to tame the sound for listening purposes).
G1 sounds so nice than my Zoom 9000 from 1993 ..wow
and yet some call it trash..these kids will never know how lucky they are..sadly..
Funny is that ZoomG1On sounds better than ZoomG3n....
😂😂
Compare zoom g3x vs zoom g3xn
G3 series share the same amps and processor of the g1on. Soundwise is the same. So there's no need for a g3 comparison
I got a Zoom G3X and sounds different than G3Xn, the N series has an improvised tone, but the G3X is better than G3Xn, G3X has better tone and a built in USB interface.
sykaTHEoNe Im talking bout the g3, not the g3n. g3 and g1on share the same processor
Yes but G3 is better than G1on because of it's features and effects, it doesn't matter the tool you are using, it matters how you use it, it matters if you know how to use it.
At sound I think you are right, but the G3 got some updates, and it sounds much better.
dude can u plz do a comparison between zoom g2. 1nu nd g5n
Fuckn owesome
the settings are not the same ... you cannot compare one another.
Afinal quem venceu?
Você que decide qual é melhor!
Highs seems completely off
no comparision, the g1xon sounds buzzy and lacks body. sad because i was going to get the g1xon
g3n wins
the settings are no the same...
This is stated in the video, amps load with default settings...thus I'm trying to show what Zoom has configured for the default setting of each amp on each pedal.
@@Tone-Quest OK Thanks for your answer. So do you think we can have almost the same result with any kind of multi effects pedal ? Tricking with the settings I mean, cause I'm lost between all those gears we can buy now.
Recently I bought the Hélix Stomp . It's extremely complete, but also complicate'n expensive, at first, I was thinking of the G5n which sounds great too.
PS: I hope my english is good enough to be understood. Thanks for you answer.
@@manouel8746 Hey Buddy, not sure if I understand completely but if you have the Helix Stomp I would think you can configure a lot of different sounds/patches with it. It is a great unit with lots of amps and effects but true...a little expensive.
I think each pedal is different, especially in the amps, so it is just a matter of finding the amps you like and tweaking the settings until you are happy.
@@Tone-Quest "tweaking the settings" and not "tricking the settings" , ok thanks I got it.
I think the same , I watched a lot of videos on multi effects . Every pedal has is own sound , like every amp .
Finally it's a question of taste and choice.
I appreciate the fact that you answered to me rapidly and honestly . Have a good evening Mrs Chris. See you.
Manou El My pleasure, good luck with creating some awesome tones. I’m jealous, the HX Stomp is a great pedal. 👍🏻
The newer Zoom's win for me simply because we have been able to reverse engineer so much of the midi/patch/FX. Check out Mungewell's Zoom-zt2 github.com/mungewell/zoom-zt2 and my ZoomPedalFun github.com/shooking/ZoomPedalFun especially on how a GCE-3 can be remote controlled.
I like my B1On better than B1XFour because it has particles reverb. But the G3n has this, as does the GCE-3.
I made some breakthru in generating IDs from the ZDL (old FX files) but still cannot control the B1On as completely as the newer n series.
I was fairly sure the B1On has MIC settings in the Amp.