The Crazy Reason Gibson Made This Guitar
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The Firebird Was Supposed To Save Gibson
The Crazy Reason Gibson Made This Guitar
That red Firebird really hits.
Just like my dad
Which one?? 😄
It's funny the red one really looks like a car from the early 60s, but when you look at the Epiphone that's up for the drawing, the different color is much more reminiscent of a TV set from the same time period. It's a very cool looking guitar, and as a casual woodworker I really appreciate the way the wood is joined together. Love it!
I've picked up the new one in the same red. The car vibes are huge and the vibrola plate reminds me of an exposed airscoop on a hot rod. Yes furniture also came in this red in the 60's.
The Firebird played Freebird! Watch the great Allen Collins show us how it's done in TWO PERFORMANCES 1st and 2nd trip to London.
*Lynryd Skynyrd 1975 Free Bird BBC Old Grey Whistle Test* [ 1975, unsure what exact date...early in the year probably] and
*Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird (Live Old Grey Whistle Test - 1975)* [November 11, 1975]
[of course I just can't see both of these being in 1975, but they were. What a busy year! First performance is with founding drummer Bob Burns and 3rd guitarist Ed King. The second performance is with new drummer Artimus Pyle and Ed King had quit. This is the 'limbo' period when founding guitarists Gary Rossington and Allen Collins would hold down the fort with Skynyrd's release of the *Gimme Back my Bullets* album. Steve Gaines joined the band about 6-7 months after the November '75 performance.
I saw Lynryd Skynyrd at Knebworth, 1976, supporting the rolling stones. Man, they were great and Freebird with Allan Collins lighting up the whole crowd with his guitar playing is something I'll never forget. Made the stones sound tame after that.
I always felt like the shape was a refinement on the Explorer. It has the same back “wing” and front “horn” just smaller and rounded, with a less sharp waist.
The sharp angle of the Explorer makes it wonderfully stable for seated play. I would love to see a shrunken variant (like a Dinky to Strat), with the wing truncated and the bridge positioned further to the rear of the body. I would also need a low, Fender-style hardtail and a 42mm nut to play it, but that is just me.
@@Robstafarian I think that's honestly a very cool idea! Love Gibson/Epiphone but hate how freaking greedy Gibson seems to be omg.
That OD on the bridge is IT!!!
Spot on....
Very nice of you Phil to refer to Johnny Winter (Edgar's older brother!) when detailing this axe. Hopefully some kid watching you gets a cardinal red and and upstages JW in the future - - - because you took the time to bring out the nuances !!!
Steve Winwood's green Thunderbird - which he played on "Dear Mr. Fantasy?"
Love that green firebird!
I do NOT think it’s incorrect to say that Firebird pickups are similar to Mini-humbuckers. FB pickups WERE derived from the Mini-HB design, which originally came from Epiphone, and they ARE the same size and use mostly the same components. The main difference between them, as I understand it, is that Mini-HBs use a metal bar piece in one coil and individual screw pole pieces on the other (magnetized by a bar magnet underneath), while FB pickups basically just substitute bar magnets inside of BOTH coils. Gibson basically got the Mini Humbucker design from Epiphone when they bought Epiphone, and ended up using them in certain Gibson products, perhaps most famously the 1970’s Les Paul Deluxe, because Gibson’s LP at the time was routed for P-90’s, and they didn’t want to have to change their tooling to route for regular hunbuckers, and Mini-HB’s were the PERFECT solution, since they are a drop-in replacement into existing P-90 routes (with the mini-HB pickup rings). Some people today would say the LP Deluxe is a unique sounding hidden gem as a result!
always enjoy the depth of guitar knowledge you share. cheers especially the reviews where you show the way it is assembled and your thoughts.
Phil…I’d be interested to hear how you compare the firebird to an explorer…I’ve never played either…I’d be curious to know your opinion 👍
Love seeing you play riffs. I watch most of your videos and it seems you don't play a ton on your videos, which is fine but I do like hearing the riffs you play. You really dug in on this one. Must be a really fun guitar to play ✌🏻
This guitar always reminds me of a platypus you know the animal, the platypus. I bet Gibson it was a much cheaper way to make a guitar because you sort of had this one piece in the middle, and the wings kinda got glued on the sides and I I bet I bet it had some manufacturing efficiencies. I just like the jazz master so much that I never really wasn’t too interested in the Firebird.
It does sound pretty great though.
I saw a Platypus in March and I was shocked to find out they are very small
@@PhillipMcKnight I’ve seen 100 of your videos and not one platypus in my life. I’m gonna sit down and think about that…
I guess that makes the Gibson Moderne a dodo.
Love the sound and vibe of the firebird!
I’m having some serious GAS for a Firebird!
Betiful playing and nice guitar Philip.
Thanx for the vid.
I have the Epi Firebird and a 2013 Gibson Firebird. The Epi really nails the Firebird vibe and sound. The Gibson has hotter pups than the '60's originals. They're not bad, but I like a more classic sound, so I bought a set of Johnny Winter pups from MojoTone that I plan on installing in it. Both of mine are sunburst, but man, that Cardinal Red is the bomb.
i got those same johnny winter pups. installed them in a goldtop less+. winter voiced them with an emphasis on the neck pickup. they’re clear, balanced to each other (the neck is a bit hotter), and sound great through breakup/overdriven tubes.
I've got one in the dark walnut colour, but it is a couple years older and the tuners are not banjo tuners, but have a knurled barrels to tune the strings, by Steinberger. I find the guitar very inspiring and fun to play onstage and really seems to fit when it's time to rock out. I think the pickups are so hot because that's what players seem to expect of these guitars but according to my sources the first Firebird pickups were not that high output. I have a non-reverse of this same vintage and in this red colour and they came with these same hot pickups, but I installed a set of vintage correct pickups from Q Pickups from Croatia and what a different sound. Lighter and airier and the Telecasters comparisons now make sense. So I have two pickups flavours in a Firebird. The next thing to try is putting the newer Gibson Firebird pickups that I removed into my Epiphone Crestwood instead of their unimpressive mini humbuckers. And about the big bulky cases. Why would Gibson not have installed metal glides on the bottom surface that is on the table or floor when you take out the guitar? I have some that I could have installed but I didn't have the heart to start pulling up the inside lining to install them properly.
sounds amazing, especially with that drive!
Love the Firebird coverage! My 2018 black FB is my main.
I've always loved the sounds and tones Johnny Winter got out of all the rigs he recorded with and am glad to have seen him live...and the Firebird was his weapon of choice. Thanks for sharing!
My favorite Firebird color is the vintage white (the yellowish ivory).
Sweet tone. A looker and a keeper that doesn't talk back. ; )
I recently picked up a firebird studio and the pickups sound great on that. I'd love to get a proper firebird at some stage.
Love also the "non reverse" Firebirds.
I got lucky when I messaged a friend of mine a couple of years ago who used to have a guitar store and mentioned to him that I wanted to add something cool and classy to my small collection of guitars perhaps a Gibson SG or maybe something a little wilder like a Firebird and wouldn't you know it, he had six SGs but as the biggest ACDC fan in the world he wouldn't part with any of them but he DID have a Firebird V, My jaw hit the floor and we began a gentleman's negotiation and came to be a price that was less than his original ask but must have been reasonable because he agreed to sell me his personal 1997 Firebird V that he bought when he was on a Warren Haynes kick but must've put it in it's case and lost it or hid it somewhere, because while it's a 27 year old guitar, it looks like it just rolled off the assembly line. The Cardinal Red would have been by my dream choice but the mahogany sunburst looks pretty sweet too, overall a very cool guitar. Firebirds are just flat out cool looking.
I saw Johnny Winter a few times and also Edgar Winter, when they would use guitarists like Ronny Montrose, and Rick Derringer!
Blues, Slide, and hard edged Rock and Roll, these guitarists never held back! Thanks Phil!
Firebird pickups vary with era. When they reissued in the 90s, FB pickups were hotter and wider than vintage in the e to e axis. Banjo tuners suck and are neckbreakers.
😊great sound on that firebird for sure.
I'm glad you said you're gonna keep the Firebird. I also have been considering one. Even building one.
Great sounding guitar!!
We were talking about that with Uncle Larry, how different guitars can make you feel and play different. They can draw things out of you LOL. I've always loved Firebirds, just never found the right one. Last fall I bought a $650 Eppie version, and I was very pleasantly surprised! It needed setup, I expected that, but it sounds and plays great!! It has the multi-piece neck through like a Gibson, but I think a little thicker. I was also expecting to change pups, but ones it came with are really good! Very happy with the whole guitar!! And I'm usually hard on Eppies. LOL Peace --gary
Really nice looking guitar Phil!
These "multi-ply" neck architectures are extremely solid (compared to other Gibson necks) and extremely stable.
Got the same Firebird, love it...
One of my favourite Gibson designs
I own that Epiphone Firebird Phil and I love it. Plays as well as my Gibson Les Paul just different.
Very nice... what a cool axe with a unique sound!
Firebirds (like Explorers) all seems backwards to me - I want the Big Horn on the top out of the way. And has Gibson EVER made a 24 fret guitar?
Yes, they have made multiple 24 fret guitars.
The color gets 11 out of 10, 😇I had my eye on one in that color. It was a non-reverse but by the time I got the $ it was sold.
Thank you, I almost chickened out twice and got Sunburst to be safe. lol
It's a beauty. I much prefer this look to the flamed maple burst guitars.
Never thought much about mini humbuckers but that sounds unique and great!
Sounds amazing doesn’t it.
Have you tried Bill Lawrence's (Wilde Pickups, not "USA") L-500 humbuckers? They can have a similar vibe due to their narrow aperture and substantial absence of eddy currents (which reduce treble, put simply).
Love Johnny Winter! Great video.
I love that guitar, awesome sounding, nice weight, beautiful looking Guitar. I want one.
Johnny winter!
The Firebird finally gets it's day. It is an interesting guitar. Thanks for the video Phil.😀
Would have never have considered this guitar but you change my perspective Phil. Thanks!
Awesome guitar, I was actually looking at these and ended up going for a reverend gristle 90 myself which I have 0 regrets about, absolutely love it.
Thanks! I like your stuff!😊
Thank you
I absolutely love this Firebird. I've wanted it ever since you first bought it. I like Firebirds in general but that red is beautiful. I had an Epiphone Slash Firebird that had the Kluson banjo tuners and you were right to choose a model that didn't have them. They're so heavy and they made for unbearable neck dive. I'm curious about the ones with Steinberger gearless tuners.
Really cool guitar! Makes me want one!
Thanks!
Love that tune from "Still Alive and Well".
I love my 2016 Gibson Firebird V. Bought it brand new for $1100. Boy were those the days! I wish I would have bought a few more Gibsons back when they were affordable.
I have only played a Firebird bass or is that a Thunderbird. I don't remember it was my ex-wifes, she's gone with the guitar and it was worth it. Firebird is always a guitar I forget about. They do have a nice bite when I hear them.
I just got a pelham blue Firebird a couple months ago. I absolutely love it. It is a really cool vibey guitar .Total rock machine. Its hard to not want to rip out a bunch of 70's style rock riffs when you hold one.
I love that guitar.
I think I need one ...in that color....
Cardinal Red is fantastic!
You had me at neck thru. The heel is kinda clunky tho
Yeah the sound sells it for sure!
It would be really nice to win that beautiful fine piece of art 🔥
Killer Firebird Phil, I was waiting to hear Jumping Jack flash ala Johnny Winter, that is a real keeper there!!!
So cool in every way...👍🎸👍🎸
I love my Epi Firebird. I don't find the neck on that one very thin.
I own an LTD Phoenix 1000 Deluxe in Vintage White... I love this LTD guitar
I have a few Gibsons, a 335 , Melody maker, Explorer, “V” and a Firebird, my two favs are the “V” and the Firebird
Found Firebirds a little bulky,Fender didn,t like it when they tried body cutaways,either,but this one is a beauty,and worthy of any collection,miss Johnny Winter also
That thing sounds epic.
I have one of the Epi's they are giving away and I really like it. I had one of those Gibson Firebird Tributes at one time but while the guitar was good it had Humbuckers (the 490's set I think) it just wasn't what I was looking for. This Epi is closer to a true Firebird that isn't bank busting. As far as I know the only Firebird's that Gibson has in production right now are Custom shop
Built one of these, but it’s a pain to gig with. Have to use a massive case, bulky to play, and has an awkward strap button location.
That says a lot that it runs neck-and-neck with your SG! Do you think you can cover all bases with the Firebird utilizing the volume/tone knobs?
Wish Gibson kept the Firebird in their lineup (not talking about the Custom shop ones!).
Great statement guitars have helped write songs.
Check out the CD called "Gifts from the Flood"......By John Jorgensen!
1. 63 SGLP 1
2.Jazzmaster 1
3. 70 LP Custom 2
4. 64 SG custom 3
5. 57 Strat 2
6. Firebird
7.Sunburst Tele 1
8. 57 Strat 1
9. Paisley Tele
10. Jazzmaster 2
11. 66 Silvertone 1
Each instrumental/piece reflects the characteristics of the tonality of the guitar........ fantastic music!
Johnny winter loved white firebirds.
Very cool giveaway!
As soon as you mention Johnny Winter, you can hear him in the sound of that guitar. The neck pickup sounds fantastic.
Rock me baby!
Hey Philip, Glen told us to ask you to demo metal tones on your reviews 😂
Its a big guitar for big people, or at least people with long arms. If you need to compare this to the new IGC one, they are exactly the same build. No the neck is not thin. Huge necks. for $650 you can spend $300 on upgraded pickups and get a similar result than the new model, but IMO the vibtrato is much better than expected, the banjo tuners are much more stable than Grovers, which are still excellent, the Gibson Pickups, while slightly low output, have that classic Johnny Winter tone that makes you want to play the blues, and a hard case which can be a little hard to acquire for a firebird. SKB makes a good case however that handles Explorer and Firebird types The costs almost balance out
I did put some Steinberger tuners on my Epiphone Firebird and they are fanatstic. I don't want to see any tuner buttons on a Firebird headstock.
Luv that guitar
I would really like to build a Firebird.
That thing sounds fantastic.
Man, I'm not usually a Gibson guy but this sounds and looks gorgeous. It's like a hot rod.
I love the Firebird, they are my favourite guitar. I've played Les Paul's, SG's, Strat's, and Tele's for years, but never owned a Firebird. They have their own sound, and after playing one, all other guitars feel tiny! Firebirds are not an easy guitar to buy here in the UK, and Gibson don't make it easy with ordering stuff, the wait times are ridiculous?
Those mini humbuckers are something special!
Have you played an Epiphone Crestwood or Epiphone Wilshire..? Curious how their sound compares to the Firebird. The hard tails seem to share some mojo, but in a more traditional (& smaller) shape.
RIP Johnny Guitar!
I did a post about the 400k so hopefully you'll get there real soon 👍🙂👍
That is a Hot bridge pick up !
I’ve done some research, but not sure if the original 60s pickups were A2, or A5. Most of the companies building replica pickups seems to be using A5, but I’m not sure how they arrived at that. I have a guy winding me some with A2 to take a bit of the edge off. Aren’t the modern FBs like yours hot ceramic pickups, or did they change them by 2019?
Sweet!
I saw one locally for a pretty good price, but I am unsure if it was really this model of the firebird
Gibson should make a wood paneling station wagon version. Vista Cruiser.
You may be in luck with an Epiphone Firebird having a thicker neck as the Joe Bonamassa Treasure Firebird has a thicker neck more like the thick neck on a 60's Junior guitar. Based on a 63 1 pickup Firebird. With banjo turners.
Damn! That was some inspired guitar playing.. I love that fat kinda snarly tele ish sound.. Yeah killer tone!!
Im not a huge gibson guy but damn might have to look up for one of those!
Wow a firebird deep dive. Way better than than all the prs’ lately
I’ve always felt that the firebird was the coolest looking guitar ever made.
I've wanted a Firebird for years, I just haven't taken the plunge. Yet. That neck thing is holding me back though.
I like off-set shaped guitars, but I don't get why the reverse off-set is required. Reverse psychology maybe. I would like a left hand model converted to right hand model. Colour is magic!!
What's the difference between resistance and inductance?
Not sure if anyone mentioned it here in the comments, but Lynyrd Skynyrd used Gibson Firebirds. Especially in the live version of double trouble. Look it up. Great video something different.
Great axe
My 2015 Les Paul DC has the P90Ss with magnetic pole pieces, way too bright for my liking. I'd much rather have steel pole pieces with a bar magnet underneath.