Gandalf reacts to origin of Elronds racism

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  • @NotGandalfClips
    @NotGandalfClips  2 місяці тому +3

    26 min Lothlorien now free on Patreon: www.patreon.com/CharlieHopkinson
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  • @colemclean1676
    @colemclean1676 2 місяці тому +29

    Man I really hope they make a third season If only to see your reactions and jokes.

    • @benc7826
      @benc7826 2 місяці тому +2

      I think Amazon are contractually obliged to make 5 seasons.

    • @colemclean1676
      @colemclean1676 2 місяці тому +1

      @@benc7826 Hallelujah, more episodes.

    • @jeffreybetancourt86
      @jeffreybetancourt86 2 місяці тому +1

      For real 😂

    • @Ford_prefect_42
      @Ford_prefect_42 2 місяці тому +1

      When I found out they were obligated to do 5 seasons I got excited that thered be more Charlie videos 🤣

  • @Makkaru112
    @Makkaru112 2 місяці тому +4

    Galadriel's daughter should be bordering 1000+ by this point of shady ROP series. Gal is born in YT 1362, is older than Celebrimbor who was born in YT 1495. But you mist also remember that years under the Trees passed differently to years under the Sun and 100 years on the Tree calendar is 958 years on the Sun calendar, making Galadriel almost 1300 years older than him. Elrond is the youngest of the three though, being born somewhere between 530 and 620 years after Celebrimbor, but given how their age gap is shown in the series and given that Celebrimbor's age gap with Galadriel is twice as large its kind of ridiculous

  • @PaIaeoCIive1684
    @PaIaeoCIive1684 2 місяці тому +4

    Hey, Qui-Gon Jinn, the visitor from the Star Wars franchise is scoffing those delicious Lindt dark chocolate treats. So moreish -- but he didn't share them out, the rotter!

    • @obsessedwithcrypto4366
      @obsessedwithcrypto4366 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PaIaeoCIive1684 count duku is also sauroman I wonder what he would say about that lol

  • @Ice-wolfs234
    @Ice-wolfs234 2 місяці тому +5

    Boromir gets depressed by Gandalf's friend Mr cheese, Boromir will end up calling the pest control.

  • @Makkaru112
    @Makkaru112 2 місяці тому +1

    All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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    Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
    (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
    After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
    The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
    The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
    There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
    Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
    1200
    Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
    c. 1500
    The Elven-smiths instructed by
    Sauron reach the height of their skill.
    They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
    c. 1590
    The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
    c. 1600
    Sauron forges the One Ring in
    Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
    1693
    War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
    The Three Rings are hidden."
    'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
    But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
    These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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    The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.

  • @BZman7
    @BZman7 2 місяці тому

    @2:08 - 2:09 - Uh what happened to the arrows in her? LOL

  • @Joe-Przybranowski
    @Joe-Przybranowski 2 місяці тому +8

    Why is the sun rising in the north

    • @malchir4036
      @malchir4036 2 місяці тому +2

      Isn't Middle Earth still flat at this point?

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 2 місяці тому

      ​@@malchir4036
      Yep.
      Weird but true.

  • @Makkaru112
    @Makkaru112 2 місяці тому +3

    Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire (before they went against what they promised), his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team.
    PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher.
    Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men.
    The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age.
    Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 2000 years before the rings of power era. A precursor to other events to come in later ages.
    Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!!
    Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar(The One AllFather), The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong.
    Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…)
    Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool.
    (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this.
    Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well!
    Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video.
    I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. )
    There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels.
    & they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The 3 rings were forged after the 1 ring, not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings:
    They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron.
    His touch never got to them, nor his malice poured into them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it.
    The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is.
    Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff.
    Full of copy past crowds (I wish I was joking), and plagiarism of several films up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. So many 1 to 1 shots of season 1 and game of thrones and other films that it’s not even funny anymore lol.
    I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example.
    (Note; Isildur being on this show in the timeline these hazily depicted events would mean Isildur is over 3000 years old by the time of the last alliance that began the third age when it ended. Lol. That doesn’t make sense now does it?).
    So many people made videos over the last two or three years alone regarding the series got them to read the books and then they got very confused first. Then upset when they found out that nothing of the show was I. The books at all. Only twisted and warped things full of inserted politics and themes that Tolkien was no fan of.
    PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices….
    Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way…
    “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Númenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like.
    Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. 😍
    ​​⁠ fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
    ​​⁠They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep.
    Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of years later. They’re horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt.

    • @lordfreerealestate8302
      @lordfreerealestate8302 Місяць тому

      That reason alone is enough to make me hate this show. A soulless, corporate, profit-seeking abomination devoid of passion.

    • @topbloke1683
      @topbloke1683 8 днів тому

      that was a lot of nothing there, hopefully people read the replies before they waste their time reading that novel instead, just a biased opinion thats all nothing to see here

  • @julianrivas1224
    @julianrivas1224 2 місяці тому +5

    So it's this channel also Charlie's? These are all reuploads

    • @PaIaeoCIive1684
      @PaIaeoCIive1684 2 місяці тому +2

      Looks like it is his side-channel (see all the details in the grey section above comments).

  • @Makkaru112
    @Makkaru112 2 місяці тому +2

    The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please!
    Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien.
    Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol.
    -
    Remember, Amazon's 2nd age is not Tolkien. It’s a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders & chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision & canon that the great Professor laid down.
    Really what our speculations
    Should be is how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions & distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
    The timeline presented in Amazon's Rings of Power series does not align with the original Second Age canon created by J.R.R. Tolkien. The series makes several changes and combines events that are separated by hundreds to thousands of years in the original source material, leading to inconsistencies and contradictions. Many Tolkien fans and purists have criticized the show for its departure from the original vision and disrespect for the lore created by the professor. The series is seen as a disappointment and a sign of the times, with some fans even claiming that it is a violation of the sacred works of Tolkien.
    Sacred because so many peoples lives were saved and transformed by all of his scholarly work. ❤

  • @marshallnmoonshine
    @marshallnmoonshine 2 місяці тому +4

    i hope this show never gets cancelled

    • @PaIaeoCIive1684
      @PaIaeoCIive1684 2 місяці тому

      Charlie's or the Rings of Power abomination? Amazon can make it for ever with their inexhaustible cashflow, sadly.

    • @bdleo300
      @bdleo300 2 місяці тому +1

      Rings of Parody is an excellent source of parody

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 2 місяці тому

      Six seasons and a movie!

  • @jennycomelately
    @jennycomelately 2 місяці тому

    Poor Thorin 😂

  • @TETASARAIVACS
    @TETASARAIVACS 2 місяці тому

    “The Dwarves! The Dwarves are coming! Look to the North!”, says Elrond as he point to the rising Sun (looks like the Sun rises in the North in Middle Earth)

  • @Yoman0351
    @Yoman0351 2 місяці тому +7

    Wow, d e i had to destroy such wonderful work from Tolkien to push bs

    • @cameronhodgetts920
      @cameronhodgetts920 2 місяці тому

      What wonderful work? The UNFINISHED Tales? The Silmarillion, which has sold less than 1 million copies?

    • @PaIaeoCIive1684
      @PaIaeoCIive1684 2 місяці тому +2

      @@cameronhodgetts920 Nonetheless, Rings of Power did woke-trash the good name of LotR. Had it been well-written, acted and produced the 'D E I' insertions might have been overlooked, but it's dire in every aspect. A tragedy and a travesty.

    • @cameronhodgetts920
      @cameronhodgetts920 2 місяці тому

      @@PaIaeoCIive1684 they were not insertions. People who claim to be Tolkien fans always seem to forget that black Hobbits and black Dwarves are undeniably canon.
      As for well-acted, that's a matter of opinion, and a pretty stupid opinion at that. Every single actor in this show has nailed it so far.

    • @PaIaeoCIive1684
      @PaIaeoCIive1684 2 місяці тому +4

      @@cameronhodgetts920 Nice one, that was hilarious! That's the way to troll, go in dead serious. Either that, or you genuinely think RoP isn't shite (eek!) P.S. are trolls black too?

  • @patrickbeck4062
    @patrickbeck4062 2 місяці тому

    I recognised the singer of the outro song as Jens Kidman straight away (the singer from Meshuggah), which is a pretty good metal band, but why they went with that style of music for a Lord of The Rings show I don't understand. Doesn't fit at all. Though it's not the first thing in this show that doesn't fit.

  • @obsessedwithcrypto4366
    @obsessedwithcrypto4366 2 місяці тому +3

    The rings of power is so bad it’s hard to watch the clipits here. It’s like a schoolboys version of Shakespeare grade D the black elf looks like a pretty orc