I RAGEQUIT MY STREAM | Arielle and Blaire Together is Too Much [PAIN]

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 95

  • @saraa.4295
    @saraa.4295 2 роки тому +44

    I was a bit of a tomboy as a kid and hated my being a girl, well actually i hated the restrictions that being female meant.
    If i had had access to the information republicans want to deny the kids...i would have experimented with male pronouns..and probably figured out that it was not being a men that i wanted, but living my life as woman MY way, years before i did in this timeline..
    Being more open about sexuality and gender helps EVERYONE!!!

    • @juniperfox1064
      @juniperfox1064 2 роки тому

      yeah, these people flip out about the possibility of people experimenting and not being trans-but YO, thats what experimenting is FOR, the more open things are the less serious it is to experiment, it isnt a pipeline to transition.

  • @jeanwire3221
    @jeanwire3221 2 роки тому +56

    If teachers don't teach kids about queerness, kids will just teach each other about it. And kids can be vicious about anything that's different. I had so much internalized homophobia growing up that, every time I had a crush on a girl i was friends with, I ended up sabotaging that relationship. I struggle with platonic relationships to this day, because I knew my feelings were different from my friends' feelings, but I couldn't contextualize them, since all I knew about being gay was that other kids laughed at anyone perceived as gay.

  • @jackriver8385
    @jackriver8385 2 роки тому +22

    35:10 guess we can't teach kids anything they don't comprehend. My youngest can't count to ten yet so I will just avoid numbers until she can comprehend them. Makes so much sense /s

    • @laurentcathery273
      @laurentcathery273 2 роки тому +7

      I remember my neighbor, he was 3 and came hang out with my family a lot, one day he told us "im gonna turn 4 in two weeks, that means its this many sleep i have to do" and showed us 8 fingers. He clearly did not understand the passage of time, he counted days as many times he slept, he even slept twice in a day to make his birthday sooner, thinking that would mean two days have passed, and also regardless two weeks is not 8 nights. Should we stop talking about age at all? Or talk about weeks? Days? Just because he doesnt understand them? Of course not. If we stop talking about it, he'll never be able to understand it! No matter the age you found out trans people exists, if youre not trans yourself, you might be a bit confused about it. My grandparents learned trans people existed when they were in their 40s and they didnt get it 🤷🏼‍♀️ maybe if it were introduced to them sooner, theyd have time to understand it instead of being stuck in the "anything new i learn as an adult is false cause i would have known it sooner otherwise"

  • @tobeseve4020
    @tobeseve4020 2 роки тому +69

    The argument of "If I knew about trans and non binary people when I was a child I would think I was trans," is so ridiculous to me because like gorl if you really feel that way THAT IS NOT A CISGENDER THOUGHT, MY DEAR.
    I also love the "It's confusing to the children!!" cut to that one child "I'm a boy and I don't want to be a girl." He didn't seem very confused, bestie.

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 2 роки тому +17

      Honestly..i kinda agree that in an environment where being trans is considered a valid possibility some cisgender kids might entertain the idea that they might be. They might try out presenting as the opposite gender..(not talking hormones here, just style, maybe pronouns) and then figure out, no, the doctor guessed right.
      AND THATS NOT A BAD THING!
      Even for cis people: it feels better if you commit to your gender out of your own conviction than being it something that is forced on you.

    • @jackriver8385
      @jackriver8385 2 роки тому +12

      I'm a trans parent and my kiddos are very confident about their genders because I let them explore and tell me what gender they are and what pronouns they use. My eldest is a cisgender boy who uses he/him pronouns and loves to wear dresses sometimes. My youngest is neither boy nor girl who uses she/her pronouns and she loves the color pink. Kids will know who they are and what they like if they are allowed to just be themselves. They're definitely a lot less confused than I was, back when I was a closeted trans kid

  • @juniperfox1064
    @juniperfox1064 2 роки тому +10

    Real therapists actually don’t diagnose narcissism anymore, because it is a useless diagnoses (people who are diagnosed with it never accept the diagnosis)

  • @theaureliasys6362
    @theaureliasys6362 2 роки тому +40

    Regarding the "afab trans people being viewed as children":
    Yeah. It really sucks.
    My bf is 20 (and a half), but afraid to do anything with me in public, because people might mistake him for a 12y/o (and either hit me, or call the guys in blue on me)

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 2 роки тому +5

      That definitely is shit!
      Problem here is, we are conditioned to view patterns, and judge male ages by indicators like beard shadow, height, muscles...
      Guessing age is difficult...

    • @Xan1120
      @Xan1120 2 роки тому +4

      I completely agree. My bf (20) is a v tall cis guy and I’m a v short trans man (23) so they often think he’s older rather than me. Plus I notice that staff members even at my own doctor’s appointments sometimes treat me like a child even though I’m a grown (23) man…

  • @mikadoavocado5164
    @mikadoavocado5164 2 роки тому +49

    Why are you doing this to yourself?!? Watching both of them together could be considered selfharm

  • @DollTyma
    @DollTyma 2 роки тому +49

    Honestly I wish I could just convince people like Blaire or Arielle that they would have been so much happier if they had gone to an accepting and inclusive school like the ones shown, that their lives would have just been better... ahh this was so painful, they're infuriating lol

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 2 роки тому +6

      Honestly i cannot believe they truly believe those things they say.
      I think they are just looking out for themselves and financially and socially it is easier to burn the bridge you crossed than to help others.

    • @DM-nw5lu
      @DM-nw5lu Рік тому +3

      Documented Assaults Idk, man. Letting others call her not a real woman, going on podcasts that don't support her rights as a trans woman and holding so much hatred for what she herself is just to appease transphobes sounds miserable as hell.

    • @salemcorriea5157
      @salemcorriea5157 Рік тому

      ​@Documented Assaults She lost over half her audience for lying about other trans people and basically lost her million subscribers the after she hit it, but sure, she's doing great. That's why she let Nazi barbie the drug mule call her a man.

  • @superdrwholock
    @superdrwholock 2 роки тому +12

    It's so painful to see them both be that self-hating. I'm far from loving myself, but I accept myself as I am because I spent way too many years (including my childhood because yeah, you do usually have an idea if you don't fit in to the societal 'norm') being scared and confused and being bullied relentlessly and not knowing that there was a possible way for me to be comfortable. That's why I was suicidal from the age of 7, because I WASN'T taught that there was anything other than cisgender or heterosexual. I do sometimes mourn for my childhood because I could've been comfortable or happy, but I was denied that (I don't blame my parents, they were ignorant and we live in a bad conservative area). If kids were taught more about this stuff, maybe I wouldn't have been scared to go to school everyday. Obviously it should be on a kid's level, we're not gonna try to explain the complex parts, just basic and empathetic understanding. Being raised in an ignorant environment didn't make me any less queer, it won't make cis or straight kids queer if they hear that LGBT+ people exist, you know? Such a silly mindset, I can't for the life of me understand why anyone, least of all people who've experienced hatred for being themselves, would disagree with the idea of teaching kids that being LGBT+ is absolutely ok and not something to hate yourself over or hide away

  • @WolfsDE
    @WolfsDE 2 роки тому +11

    I hate those two so much. It is their fault that Ash Hardell, a hero to me has spent so much time away from UA-cam. Yes, Ash has been busy with other projects as well. But, even they said that Ariel and Blaire were leading bullying movements to get Ash and Grayson off of UA-cam.
    I still have Ash's book. (The ABC's of LGBT). Between it and Ash's channel it helped me find what I was repressing for over 36 years. I am still figuring me out to some degree, but I know I am transgender. I know that the male body I have has never been who I felt I was inside. Ash helped me figure that out.
    That Ariel and Blaire can be such ignorant insufferable assholes that want people like me out of the community, think it is funny when right wingers kill people like me....really pisses me off.
    I won't be surprised if one day Ariel marries some self hating gay man desperate to prove how straight he is so she can appease the right and show she is an "ex-gay".

  • @greyisnthere
    @greyisnthere 2 роки тому +65

    I'm not even 10 minutes in and this is already a train wreck. They're just pronoun pins, no one's signing these kids up for surgery 😭

    • @TheGreatSaveeni
      @TheGreatSaveeni 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah talk about a slippery slope fallacy by these two 🙄

  • @THExBREAKFASTxMONKEY
    @THExBREAKFASTxMONKEY 2 роки тому +8

    Hi Luxander, just want you to know I appreciate your willingness to put up with this bullshit and to be as informative as possible about nonbinary identities. The first video I watched of yours was a response to an Arielle video and it wickedly helped me understand nonbinary people as a whole and I have ended up discovering I'm genderqueer myself! Thank you for refusing to do the respectability politics shit towards these people who actively want us to stop existing. Anyway just wanted to use this opportunity to have my little fangirl moment for you lmao. ❤️

  • @Johnny_T779
    @Johnny_T779 2 роки тому +11

    I. Just. Can't... 😩
    This 2 bullies are STILL on UA-cam??! How were they not kicked out already? 😳 😠

    • @WolfsDE
      @WolfsDE 2 роки тому

      Their audience is mostly right wingers. Trumpers. That is how they are still on here.

    • @salemcorriea5157
      @salemcorriea5157 Рік тому

      Sadly they make UA-cam a lot of money. Especially with younger queers.

  • @Loki_Morningstar666
    @Loki_Morningstar666 Рік тому +2

    I wish they talked about this stuff in school when I was a kid. I would have figured out much sooner that I was non-binary instead of not figuring it out until my 40's because I didn't even know it was a thing. I thought there were just two options.

  • @Just_One_Tree
    @Just_One_Tree 2 роки тому +4

    People who think teachers shouldn’t talk about their personal lives probably haven’t spent much time around kids. Children (esp. elementary age) are very curious about the adults in their lives; kids want to know who you are, how you live, why you’re doing something, how they can relate to you, etc.
    A teacher would seem incredibly withdrawn and cold to their students if they didn’t answer questions about themself

  • @prageruwu69
    @prageruwu69 2 роки тому +19

    i hate it here

    • @greyisnthere
      @greyisnthere 2 роки тому +4

      I need you to know that I adore your username lmao

    • @prageruwu69
      @prageruwu69 2 роки тому +2

      @@greyisnthere thank you

    • @NastyREDACTED
      @NastyREDACTED 2 роки тому +7

      Watching blaire become more accepting of the narrative that she's just a delusional guy is...just so painful to watch.
      The saddest part is that she painstakingly paved that road herself.

  • @TenleyAtwood
    @TenleyAtwood Рік тому +1

    As a mother of a trans kid, I'm with Laverne on this. "It's none of your business" It makes me so sick that members of the LGBTQIA community are attacking their most valuable members. This is infighting and grifting. My child is not up for your debate Blair.

  • @RilianSharp
    @RilianSharp 2 роки тому +3

    if you have short hair, you will be perceived as younger. this happens to me all the time. i'm not on any hormones, i'm just an afab person with short hair who wears jeans and t-shirts, and people consistently assume that i'm 10-15 years younger than what i am.

  • @theaureliasys6362
    @theaureliasys6362 2 роки тому +12

    Also. Regarding changing pronouns... genderfluid exists.
    We're not confused. I mean yes, we are. About a lot of stuff. But usually not about our genderfluidness.

    • @PixelPenguin87212
      @PixelPenguin87212 2 роки тому +5

      And it’s okay to be confused by your own gender too!

  • @ameliawilliams305
    @ameliawilliams305 Рік тому +1

    47:34 i think she means that you can confuse cis/het kids into thinking that they're queer, which is what a lot of trans kid rhetoric tries to say (like the whole idea of cis girls being "confused" into thinking they're trans masc)
    (I'm not defending that point, just explaining it)

  • @anitanielsen1061
    @anitanielsen1061 2 роки тому +1

    11:36 DON’T LUMP ME IN WITH BLAIRE! We are COMPLETELY different!

  • @restlessdream8745
    @restlessdream8745 Рік тому +1

    I'd rather seek validation from kids than from people who want to see me dead lmaoook

  • @laurenalexander4438
    @laurenalexander4438 Рік тому +1

    "Why do they look like children themselves?" Cause some people just do. I'm AMAB, yet I never was really treated like an adult man. I either got seen as a woman (with longer hair), or got treated like a teenage boy. Got carded into my 30's. Used to get bullied (as an adult) by men a lot. Since transitioning, I actually get treated like an adult for once, which is nice. And honestly kinda surreal. I am not used to being treated like an adult. But, I'm a lot more believable as an adult woman than I ever was an adult man. 🤷🙄
    And them bitching about sex ed. Like, if I knew trans lesbians were a thing, or if I knew about demisexuality, I wouldn't have grown up so completely confused. All I knew was, I was not a straight guy.
    Blaire + Arielle is a maddening combo. Dear lord. 🙄🤢

  • @ArielVHarloff
    @ArielVHarloff 2 роки тому +6

    honestly Blaire is right. School/the information you have or don't have access to as a kid CAN confuse you. I was quite confused about my gender most of my life to the point that I still thought I was cis in my mid 20s XD (I totally knew as a kid but then not knowing being trans is an option I kinda forgot about it)

  • @kayleigh1991
    @kayleigh1991 2 роки тому +1

    Lol I get accused of the Peter Pan syndrome thing too. My face has just looked the same since I was like 17. There’s not a whole lot I can do about that.

  • @PridewithKC
    @PridewithKC 2 роки тому +1

    I learned about discriptive gay and lesbian sex in 6th grade health class at a FUCKING CATHOLIC SCHOOL in 1989!

  • @GilGTG
    @GilGTG 2 роки тому +11

    5:37. They look young comparatively because conservatism ages you prematurely

  • @MeNatalieMarie
    @MeNatalieMarie 2 роки тому +2

    There is a new song called "I am woman" by Emmy Meli that I love as a trans woman. It makes me feel good and proud to be a trans woman.

  • @GilGTG
    @GilGTG 2 роки тому +1

    I'm glad you described the medical procedure that doctors use to make someone appear female. The procedure sounds horrifying and not defensible honestly and if I had learned about this procedure in say, A & P, it would've probably been extra cringe. That practice, how common is it?

  • @jackriver8385
    @jackriver8385 2 роки тому +3

    The only problem I see with the first one is that 4 year olds can't read yet. But I'm sure the teachers explain which is which. My kids are 3 and 5 and we talk regularly about gender and pronouns, usually my kids are even the ones who bring it up in the first place. Kids enjoy talking about these things and are much more clever than most people give them credit for.
    Edit: yeah these transphobes always see us as children, it's really awful. I turn 29 in August and still get seen as a teenager because I can't go on T yet. There's literally nothing I can do about that apart from what I'm already doing.

  • @pyratehyena1312
    @pyratehyena1312 2 роки тому

    oh no. this is so frustrating and stupid and why, dear god, why did I make myself watch this? I just AAAAAAAAAAAH! It's just so full of ignorance and I'M JUST GONNA GO TO... be so very glad we're on the same wavelength. thank you.

  • @laurenalexander4438
    @laurenalexander4438 Рік тому

    "Its not a guess." Blaire... I AMAB, yet when puberty hit, all the guys got bigger and hairier, and I didn't really. I remember in gym, the girls asked if I shaved my legs because I barely had any body hair. I masculinized so poorly, I passed consistently into my 20's with just shoulder length hair. ...which was scary, cause I wasn't remotely out to myself yet, and was still using men's facilities. Even when I spoke, they STILL thought I was in the wrong bathroom.
    So much shit goes into biological sex. Chromosomes, gonads, hormone levels, how well your body uses those hormones, brain structure, gender identity... They guess based on genitals. XX male syndrome and complete androgen insensitivity syndrome show that chromosomes don't always line up.
    My T was at 500 pre HRT, though you'd never guess that looking at my short, girly ass. My prolactin was high, too. I couldn't grow anything resembling a beard til 26 (and it's still patchy, thankfully). I have the general build and body hair of a cis woman. I never could gain muscle. I've feminized more in 21 months on E than I masculinized in decades of T.
    I strongly suspect I'm intersex.

  • @arcaneSae
    @arcaneSae Рік тому

    I never actually had a teacher that told us about their life out of school( though in hs I was glad they didnt because really didnt care, just wanted out)

  • @themiddleones11
    @themiddleones11 2 роки тому +1

    I think Blaire was saying that if you teach kids about lgbtg+ things, cishet kids might think they are queer for a little bit, but what's more important? Not giving kids options that won't end up being them or queer kids knowing they're accepted and it's a possibility right off the bat

  • @NastyREDACTED
    @NastyREDACTED 2 роки тому +2

    😬😬😬 pain. Just pure pain

  • @PixelPenguin87212
    @PixelPenguin87212 2 роки тому +4

    When you mentioned that Blaire is only 6 months older than you, I googled her to see her birthday and typo’d “Blaire Shite” hahahaha

  • @pleasurepanda3285
    @pleasurepanda3285 Рік тому

    It's normal for newborns to come out with swollen genitals due to all the in utero hormones they're exposed to. The swelling is temporary but can be enough to make it difficult for the doctor to guess while the new mom expects to hear "it's a boy!" Or "it's a girl!" right away. It's normal for doctors to guess. Apart from the extreme swelling from the hormones some babies, including those assigned as males, lactate.

  • @dogsenseforu301
    @dogsenseforu301 2 роки тому +1

    All kids should be allowed to inhabit different identities as they have done for years ie know many kids in the past and currently who identify as many identities for extended periods of time - insisting on being called/dressed as their preferred identity eg a dog, a cat, a mermaid, a boy, a girl, a movie hero, even a disciple of Jesus, a cartoon character (esp super heroes) etc etc

  • @andrewkohler3707
    @andrewkohler3707 Рік тому

    10:30 - I really hate astrology because of the essentialism inherent therein, and so I'm not surprised these two like it.

  • @GilGTG
    @GilGTG 2 роки тому

    45:52 - I think she was confused when she said that "you can confuse kids..." I don't even think she said what she meant if there was a coherent thought to be conveyed there

  • @supernoob17
    @supernoob17 2 роки тому +1

    oh wow the brain trust is on the case

  • @justjess6636
    @justjess6636 2 роки тому +1

    Oof. I couldn't stick around that long TBH.
    I mean in the beginning where white is literally self-hating and it's so strange to see her actually enjoy it.

  • @qiae
    @qiae 2 роки тому

    My vote is that at most there will be a single one which isn't libsoftiktok, and I accept all mockery if I am wrong.

  • @Yorokobi224
    @Yorokobi224 2 роки тому

    ugh I used to watch her, bumped into her at Gay Expo in NYC and then saw her Terf-y ways :(

  • @krazyoldkatlady192
    @krazyoldkatlady192 2 роки тому +1

    Did you see Arielle’s what is a women video where she asks random people on the street to define woman? Total trainwreck 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @rosabowen731
    @rosabowen731 2 роки тому +1

    I’d love to know where you got the number that 5% of the population is intersex? He absolute highest I could find was 4%, and it looked like people were saying it was an overestimate. It looks like the number most agreed on is 1.7%

    • @MusingMoss
      @MusingMoss  2 роки тому +5

      1.7% *visible at birth*
      The reason we don't do casual fun chromosome testing in biology class or sports any more is that a shit ton of "cis" people would find out they were intersex and melt down about it

  • @BlueberryBricks
    @BlueberryBricks Рік тому

    Better to look childish than to act like it.

  • @stephaniejackson4819
    @stephaniejackson4819 2 роки тому +2

    But your prefrontal cortex is not fully formed till twenty-five 25 though children cannot make decisions or they wouldn't need supervision, or guardians, parents y'all just want to, have a agenda

    • @MusingMoss
      @MusingMoss  2 роки тому +5

      Are you gonna sit there and tell me that people shouldn't drink alcohol or own guns or join the military until after age 25 because otherwise they can't fully consent

  • @GilGTG
    @GilGTG 2 роки тому

    37:12, fr. The 90s sucked for us in that way.

  • @soulgazer11
    @soulgazer11 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks, I hate it

  • @Justanotherpsychopat
    @Justanotherpsychopat 2 роки тому

    23:04 Blair are you telling your right wing audience that you are against little kids waving the american flag? Based

  • @BabbleCacophony
    @BabbleCacophony 2 роки тому

    I do think that you shouldn't phrase the language of diversity as "not cis het white male" to kids. They have a fresh perspective and will think that there is something wrong with those categories. That is the kind of language you would use with people who understand that these categories dominate our society.

  • @Zaaalbar
    @Zaaalbar 2 роки тому

    Those 2 sound like puppets that play off scripts made by the most bigoted people of the world

  • @BlueberryBricks
    @BlueberryBricks Рік тому

    Uggg, she's actually wearing a CBGB shirt. NO, just no.

  • @OuchMyHooves
    @OuchMyHooves 2 роки тому

    blaire just looks dead inside throughout the entire video. you reap what you sow i guess?

  • @saraa.4295
    @saraa.4295 2 роки тому

    It's kinda weird..the video i watched before that was the old mask off by lindsay ellis...and wondering how holding accountable could be done without the sadistic tendencies of mobs...and you show how...

  • @christinaedwards5084
    @christinaedwards5084 2 роки тому +1

    Can’t listen anymore, annoying elf voice is getting on my last nerve.

  • @johnlew5972
    @johnlew5972 2 роки тому +2

    They are trying to open a dialog to everyone. You are militant and negative. You are driving people apart .That never ends well.

    • @MusingMoss
      @MusingMoss  2 роки тому +3

      It's interesting that you say she's trying to open a dialogue to everyone, but she doesn't ask to speak with nonbinary people like me, she only keeps collaborating with Blaire White who is firmly anti-nonbinary... doesn't sound like I've been invited to dialogue at all, actually

  • @kayleigh1991
    @kayleigh1991 2 роки тому

    I just love how blatantly anti-education and anti-teacher these people are

  • @frnklposouthbay364
    @frnklposouthbay364 2 роки тому

    The tavistock children's clinic was closed in the U.K. because of a class action lawsuit by 1000 families there. When I first learned about this I thought it was because the brits are smarter but no,it's because the settlements will be paid by the state National Health Service. Really the government will fork over. No doubt that kids have been harmed by this fad, soon it wiil happen in the states and narcissists like you will no longer be influencers and have to find real work . If this is legitimate care for trans kids why do you reckon tavistock was closed? Do you have the intellectual honesty to work it out? Feel free to DM me or better yet take up this topic on your channel. Doubt if you can or will.

    • @MusingMoss
      @MusingMoss  2 роки тому +2

      See the reason I know you don't have any intellectual curiosity is that Tavistock closed but they're opening up at least three other clinic hubs for trans people

  • @blacksocrates1
    @blacksocrates1 2 роки тому

    Man I'm so glad my libertarian ass can just sit back, get some popcorn and just laugh at both sides

  • @FlyGuyKai23
    @FlyGuyKai23 2 роки тому +2

    Blaire white is awesome. Woot woot

  • @johnlew5972
    @johnlew5972 2 роки тому

    Do you feel left out or something??? You are twisting what she says and stands for so you can be upset.

  • @Macumber773
    @Macumber773 2 роки тому

    You're kind of trying too hard

  • @stephaniejackson4819
    @stephaniejackson4819 2 роки тому

    But your prefrontal cortex is not fully formed till twenty-five 25 though children cannot make decisions or they wouldn't need supervision, or guardians, parents y'all just want to, have a agenda