Charging challenges for electric vehicle owners
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2024
- With the U.S. transition to electric vehicles gaining momentum, the reliability of the EV charging infrastructure is becoming increasingly important. CBS national environmental correspondent David Schechter takes to the streets for a firsthand look, revealing that finding a working charger when and where needed isn’t always easy.
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Thankfully after a year and several cross country trips I’ve had no trouble charging my model Y
Please read about Dalbir Bala. He's the guy who spent over $100k with tax to purchase an F150 Lightning and install fast chargers at his home and business. First, a small accident landed it in the body shop for 6 months, despite the fact that the repairs were described as "light assembly on front bumper". Ford did not answer his emails or phone calls. Then he set out on a 1400 mile road trip with his family. He ultimately had to have the EV towed to a Ford dealership, where he rented a an ICE toyota to make the trip. He then picked the EV up on the return trip. All this trouble was because they kept following apps to chargers that either didn't exist, or were out of order. He doesn't recomend EVs at this time.
@@ralphcantrell3214 All you need is tesla man these problems dont exist with tesla.
@@Kev376 I don't think he's even looked up the Supercharger map online. What are EVs haters going to do after Tesla finishes up it's network with it's 99.96% reliability rate to all CCS based EVs by the end of this year?
15 months and 27k miles with my Model Y and I've never had a problem, even though I essentially live in the exurbs of St Louis. I've driven to Florida and Texas without any trouble. Get a Tesla and you're going to be fine.
no problem filling up my toyota with gas. yet tesla owners have to boast about charging their car 😂😂
well, before gasoline powered cars there were no gas stations, oil change places, etc...
Why isn't there any mention of Tesla? Very little issues with the Supercharger network, typical news coverage.
The fake news is dependent on a lot of auto manufacturer advertisements So they want to keep people scared to buying their legacy cars.
Tesla does not advertise at all.
Corrupt media (payd by BIG OIL) don't want to tell People, Tesla have 52,000 Superchargers on planet Earth
Because Tesla isn’t the only option on the market
They aren’t the only option, but their charging network pretty much is
@@tres050507 Pretty much makes Tesla the only sensible option.
Plus, their technology is UNMATCHED!
Sounds like these are non Tesla owner problems. I mean yes we get full super charging lots but usually there’s a spot open unless it’s an event or something nearby
Media: "Tesla sucks buy GM"
Also media: "Charging challenges for electric vehicle owners"
not the case in nyc. its ALLLL taken up by tlc plate cars. got to wait 45min just to start charging
Back in the day when the first gasoline cars went on sale,only pharmacies were selling gasoline so, you can't expect to have a million charges overnight.
In Miami 35% of chargers are defunct. One in three. If you think I'm choosing an EV over my Mercedes for my Christmas roadtrip from Maryland to Miami you really don't understand America and shouldn't be pontificating EV propaganda. Getting caught at a dead charger in the wrong place and time could make me end up dead in Miami. At least my SL has a 630 mile highway range so I can choose where and when I want to fuel up.
I do really like the light post into EV charger model
I personally charge at home over 95% of the time.
I have a Tesla - and have never had a problem with a single supercharger station or cable in 2 years. I have supercharged in WI, MI, IL, and IN. All midwest locations.
Many shopping centers have light poles. Just to be clear: These are Level 2 chargers (~6.6KWh). Al folk need to do is change their way they 'fuel'. Take ever opportunity to connect. There is no need to FILL TO FULL. My local Lowers has L2, I usually can put back what I used to get there while shopping. Depending on the activation plan, it take me as little as 15 additional seconds to connect to a no pay (like at home) to what the App needs. BTW it costs me $2.50US to drive 65miles (off peak home charging). L2 is kinder to your battery (but slower). More workplace chargers (or anyplace where the car is parked for hours) is what we need. Saving the more expensive DC fast chargers for long trips
* All you need to do is plug into a home outlet. That's what I do, anyway. *
This is true, but the reality is a lot of people live in apartment complexes where their parking has no access to an outlet.
@@dknight211some apartments and condos offer EV charging.
I am a landlord with 9 houses/condos. If any renter called me with a request to install a level 2 EV charger, I would do it. I would probably add $20/month to the rent to cover the cost. We do have one condo where this would not work.
@@dknight211What do people that live in condos or rent apartments do currently? Do these condos and apartments have gas pumps in them? Or do they go to to a place called a gas station?
If so, do they know about stations called Tesla Supercharger stations? Have they even looked up a Supercharger map online to see that they're everywhere on the way they're heading and the network's 99.96% reliability rate? Or perhaps they don't yet know it's being open to all by the end of this year? And that it's growing by the week?
Here in Mexico , the home charger is sold with the car. So you charge at home every day. No need for public charger
It's hilarious that most people have zero understanding of EVs. 99% of your charging is done at home and/or work. The other 1% is done at a DC fast chargers. Completely different from a gas car where you MUST go to a station to fill up. If you're roadtripping, you're not looking for a Level 2 AC charger. Those are destination chargers. It's frustrating when CBS is showing many Level 2 stations like that's what you're looking for on a roadtrip.
TL;DR: DON'T BUY AN EV UNLESS YOU CAN CHARGE AT HOME! Including your apartment complex or street parking. Don't do it! Install a Level 2 at home, or wait until your complex has adequate infrastructure to support it. DO NOT rely on DC! That will degrade your battery quickly!!!!
@beegdawg007I don’t think they thought about those that live in condos,apartment complexes and/or other living capacities such as college dorms. They definitely made a bold statement saying don’t buy an EV unless you can charge at home, then to go on to say don’t rely on DC fast charging as it will degrade the battery.
Honestly NEWSFLASH (since he like shouting in all CAPS), it is their personal property they paid for it they can do as they please… if he owns a home and puttin money into it (I.e. inground pool) and someone came to them and said “you can’t do that to your home that doesn’t add value to your home”
Again, playing hypothetical they can replace the inground pool with whatever, do you think his response would be the same?
They may argue “it’s not the same” but it is, again their money, their property. Period.
@beegdawg007 What do people that live in condos or rent apartments do currently? Do these condos and apartments have gas pumps in them?
Or do they go to to a place called a gas station? If so, do they know about stations called Tesla Supercharger station? Have they even looked up a Supercharger map online to see that they're everywhere on the way they're heading and the network's 99.96% reliability rate? Or perhaps they don't yet know it's being open to all by the end of this year? And that it's growing by the week?
whats the number of ppl have access to GARAGE vs ppl live in apts. especially in the cities.
@@trytesting4114 In America, nearly two-third of Americans have access to a garage or driveway to install a charger. So around 220 millions people.
And in my home city of NYC, the most populous in the country by far, most people don't even have a car. There's no need for one. There are subways underground everywhere, and buses and taxis/Ubers above ground everywhere. And few parking spaces.
And those few that do have cars, not a single one of them has access to a gas pump in neither their apartments or their buildings. So they all go to something we like to call "gas stations", of which there are precious few in the city and very expensive. So most go outside the city to fill up.
For electric vehicles, those same people have to go to something called a "charging station." They charge there and go a week or two without having to charge again because EVs use very little energy in stop and go traffic, and recoup a good deal of it while slowing down and stopping. The opposite of ICE which uses a ton of gas in stop and go traffic, and you run out rather quickly.
And those lucky enough to have underground parking, many buildings are installing level 2 charging on the parking spots. While the city is installing a few level 2 chargers at street parking spots in some areas.
Hope that helps.
Besides charging, there should be more discussion on problems such as low reliability, high insurance, and poor post-sale services of EVs
This is a rather badly produced story. They should have talked to Tesla owners to see if their charing experience differs. They would have found that Tesla drivers almost never worry about these things due to the robust and pervasive Tesla Supercharger network. In addition, most of your charging should occur at home (assuming you own a home). If done correctly, an EV owner simply charges daily at home and utilizes public chargers for road trips. It's not like owning a gas car where you occasionally need to drive out of your way to fill up at a gas station once a week.
Charpoint is right now the major player in EV charger infrastructure, but imagine if they boosted charging speed? Higher kilowatt charging + expanded network = a total game-changer! 🔋
It took many decades to build up the ICE infrastructure we have and I expect we won't magically build up EV infrastructure in just a few years. A little planning and patience will go a long way toward getting your EV charged.
Can't wait for the EV crisis of 2040
The home charging network is much more important. People with garages can get a 240v outlet and charge their car at home. People with apartments is where people and landlord need the help and encouragement to make home charging available to people who rent.
1:24 uses term refuel vehicle, never heard of electrical charge being a fuel
I guess the fuel is electron
@2:45 ummm Tesla has been adding a new stall every hour this year... and granting access to all their network in the coming year to all EVs.
Why didn't they make power cords like a USB cords? No worry about cur cable theft and it won't matter what car you have as long as it plugs into the charger.
The business model that works for gas is to have a store attached. They can't make a profit with just pumps in a parking lot. EV charging needs to be exactly like that so the business can survive and have enough money to keep them working. Travelers all need the same things no matter what they drive. Air pumps for tires, windshield waster tools, bathrooms, food, drinks, and an attendant they can notify when things don't work. Just because you drive an EV doesn't mean you don't need that other stuff.
Oh no!!!! Not a big prob. It's not rocket surgurey, every building is wired, gas is trucked in.
You forgot to mention that Tesla is opening up it's charging network to almost all models of evs. Also it's the opposite, public chargers, especially teslas are much faster than at home
I guess the main media are getting in there last shot at poor charging now that Tesla has started to open up it's network starting with Ford. This is also a rehashed video from months ago.
I can fill up my tank in about 10 min max and it always works if the station has power and fuel. I don't have to wait 30 min to 12 hours to wait for a working charger and plus 30 min to 90 min to charge my vehicle.
Yeah but what if the power goes out will it still pump gasoline
I can fill up every night. I arrive home, plug in and in the morning I have a full Battery. I don’t have to wait 30 minutes to drive to a gas station, fill up and drive back home. So what’s your point?
Here's an idea use a combustible engine! They are cheap and efficient! 🤯
You'll be forced to scrap that gas using car by 2040, or before. Then what? I might just get a bicycle 🚲
Total cost of ownership of EV's is much lower than ICE vehicles, because EV's need a lot less maintenance (a coolant flush every 8000 miles, that's basically it), and the cost of fuel per mile is only something like 1/4th of gasoline. Besides that, EV's usually have much higher horse power and torque than comparable gas vehicles which makes them super fun to drive. Sure, range is an issue (especially on the freeway where you don't get the benefits of regenerative braking) and the infrastructure is far from optimal right now. That will all get fixed eventually. I for one am happy not to have to deal with fluctuating gas prices anymore; the electricity at my house has been the same price for years. I will never buy a gas car again.
Definitely a good idea to put chargers on lamp posts but those are AC chargers that take hours and hours to charge a car. Nice for parking your EV near home or near your work, but not so useful for a road trip. And you'll have to leave it there all day or all night so what can you expect to find when you get there? Exactly: Another car that's been sitting there for hours and is not going anywhere either.
the ans is to know what make of ev to buy.
ATM, it's Tesla if you want to road trip or need to rely on public charging.
At this stage, if you are not able to have L2 charger home, EV is not for you.
If you are going to buy an EV, make that small investment and install that charger at home.
Regression payment pricing. If 35% of chargers are out of order, then the rate they can charge is only 65% of the standard price. It give them incentive to keep 100% reliability.
No greenhouse emission from EVs? How is electricity generated in the US? I will say up until now EVs are for folks who do well enough to have the mean to own their own house.
A simple graph will illustrate that in 20 or so years, if the range of EVs are not minimum 500 miles per charge, then there would be a worse chaos then if gasoline was $5 to $10 a gallon nationwide.
this is the exact reason i like hybrid system better.
You mean bad journalism ?
Luckily Tesla Superchargers work almost perfectly most of the time. And now they’re opening them up to other brands, like they did with Ford yesterday. Plus they open a dozen everyday. Go Tesla! 🥳
What is the main media going to report on after Tesla finishes up it's network with it's 99.96% reliability rate to all CCS based EVs by the end of this year?
Most electric vehicle owners charge at home most of the time. That is actually easier than a gas station visit and much cheaper.
So easy with Tesla...
Tesla have 52,000 Superchargers on planet Earth
More chargers isn't the all encompassing answer.
It's more FAST chargers with Universal standards
All depends on if you are waiting on the charge to finish, usijg a stopwatch and start it when I fill up with gas it can take 3-5 minutes depending on how low I am in the tank. With my EV it takes me like 1 secs to plug in and in the morning I'm full, so the time waiting in front of the vehicle is like 2 secs (plug in and out). The obvious thing is you don't wait for it to charge it is ready in the morning, also I don't have to drive some place to fuel up that is at home. Yes, this assume you have a garage or place to charge at home. Road trips are different, and can take much longer.
A good idea is to not have a company you caught cheating emissions (VW) to build and maintain a large charging network (Electrify America). No wonder every EV car company is adopting the NACS (Tesla) so that their cars can charge in the Tesla Supercharging Network
Yep. So what's the main media going to report on next year it's open up to all by the end of this year?
I’m so sick of people screaming about public charging and how they’ll never buy an EV because it’s so difficult. Yes, it can be a PITA, but most of the time it works just fine and the vast majority of people don’t need to do anything other than charge at home. I public charge maybe 4 times a year. The U.S. is so backwards. We politicize and inflame anything and everything that’s even remotely new or different.
I wonder if this was pushed out bow because Tesla is opening its supercharger network to everyone in waves, starting with Ford yesterday, Rivian next, GM down the line. And starting with model year 2025, essentially all EVs will come withthe Tesla charge port.
It’s not great let’s just say that
This is only one part of the solution. The biggest issue is that our battery technology is not there, yet. Once solid state is further along it should be cheaper and faster to charge and that charge will enable vehicles to go further between charging. The biggest plusses for solid state is that, pound for pound, they hold a lot more power and are cheaper to build than the current liquid state batteries...oh, and they are far less likely to be a fire hazard.
Infrastructure, affordability, snd what the vehicle needs for designed sustainability not there.
Why not co-locate charging points in the usual petrol stations or develop Tesla cars fitted with solar panels on the roof
The amount of energy EVs use is gigantic compared to the energy a solar roof could generate.
@@kazioo2 Wouldn't that depend on the capacity of the solar panels or solar crystals though?
With a little more research, I am sure they could find a way around solar.
In the meantime, they could co-locate EV charging points at regular gas stations or parking lots of supermarkets, stores, restaurants, Starbucks etc.
It just take some out of the box solutions to be able to come up with a good idea of how to increase the EV charging points in the short term while focusing on building new stations in the long term
@@bubbaoreilly7519 I see
@@jedarglobal3245 I always thought solar panels on a car seemed like such a good idea too, but the efficiencies just aren’t there (yet). A car has such a small amount of surface compared to the roof of a house, where solar can provide enough power to work.
Check out this video from Aging Wheels about the Aptera. (Search for “You're Wrong About Aptera“ - I put a link, but it disappeared.) It’s a three-wheel lightweight car that DOES have solar panels. He explains some of the solar panel - car thing there. Plus, his videos are just plain fun to watch. Hope you enjoy it.☺
Most cars aren’t efficient enough to justify solar panels on the roofs, that said check out aptera they’re doing some cool stuff with solar cars
I have a Tesla and have no problems.
+52,000 Tesla Supershargers🔋⚡⛽ on planet Earth 🌍...
Charge at home. Wth
It's funny how the anchor who has an EV isn't the lead on the story. Clearly they didn't want expertise to get in the way of the story they wanted to tell.
Charge at home!! I realize it's not practical for everybody but they're blowing this out of proportion. Even if we were to put a few chargers at every gas station it would be a fraction but it'd be a very good start for road trips, as much as Government loves to regulate I'm sure they could mandate it quite easily.... and gas stations owners might even make $$
Yes charge up that EV with electricity made via coal. Hypocrites!!!
And lithium batteries that come from mines and pollute pollute pollute.
I will never own an EV that is junk. It has no value!
As usual, no mention of having to burn COAL to produce the electricity for the car. No improvement in greenhouse gases.
renewable energy is set to overtake the world's use of coal by early 2025 and will account for more than one-third of the world's total electricity generation.
There is still an improvement in greenhouse gases, even when electricity is produced using fossil fuels. EVs are more efficient than ICEVs, turning 90+% of energy into motion as opposed to 20-30%. As for mining minerals, fossil fuels need to be extracted/refined, too.
Rural towns do not have the same options as cities. EV should NOT be forced on everyone! Think about all walks of life.
Settle down. No one is going to force you to do anything. No more than you're "forced" to drive a gas car now.
Who is "forcing" you to buy an EV? 😅
stop forcing christianity into govt then! LOL
@@RudieObias People who live in the EU will be forced as ICE sales will be banned in 2035.
@RudieObias nobody, yet. But by 2040 or before, gas cars will forcibly be scrapped. As that was the plan after all. Then we get another crisis! The great EV crisis of 2040!
Electric cars are only good for one thing - commuting for known distances, like to work and back etc.. Then you only need a small, cheap one, {relatively speaking, as all are WAY overpriced), Then you just skip the cost of revamping your homes electrical system and slow charge them overnight. For any other purpose they just don't make sense, so an ICE vehicle must still be in the garage. Even then you still have all the other EV problems, like them being too expensive, extreme depreciation, astronomical repair costs, limited lifespan, high insurance costs, poor cold weather performance and range, weight, etc etc.. I'm voting for Trump, because he's gonna "drill, drill, drill' and end the insanity in the auto industry caused by Biden's ridiculously overzealous EV mandates.
Ask someone who owns a Tesla about all your concerns. I had my doubts too and now wish I had checked it out earlier.
@@davidl.beckwith4836 I do appreciate that Tesla is setting the bar for EVs. But they are simply too expensive. But I guess if the ultimate goal is to reduce greenhouse gasses by taking ICE vehicles off the road, then pricing ALL vehicles out of the hands of the poor and lower-middle classes gets the job done too.