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Omega Speedmaster Apollo8 Mark 2 | Why you shouldn't buy it
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2024
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I got one this weekend, and it’s spectacular. Yeah it’s pricey, but when you see the detail, the engravings, the movement, it all comes together. It feels and looks great on the wrist. Don’t buy it for investment, buy it cause you love it, you are collector, or you want a speedy +. It’s a little more something than a regular speedy. As you said Andy, it’s technically and aesthetically perfect.
Agree. Just get one too.😊
Reserved one this week. For someone working in the space industry, it is so so so hard to resist something like this.
Got it today. It’s beautiful. Very happy with it.
The only reason I would ever buy an Omega is because of that Rocket , it makes hugeeeeeeeee difference in some ppls life like me , absolutely stunning and role reason I would buy this and only this compare to even rolex for that price
Of course this is a cool piece. Although some have said it’s probably over priced, but you do get what you pay for. The dial alone is worth the premium. Whoever gets one is lucky.
Totally agree. Of all the things Omega should be doing, releasing this model is not one of them. Makes you wonder what mess they will make of the next generation of Seamaster and PO
Looking forward to your 1 Month video on the PO. I have one but have never worn it more than a few days. I'll be interested in its accuracy over that time span. Mine is very precise.
I read an earlier comment about Omega bracelets and don't get the hate. I'm wearing a 1998 50th anniversary Seamaster GMT on a Speedmaster bracelet. 10-12 years ahead of Rolex of the period.
My PO has an excellent bracelet with easy adjustment.
I also pwn 2 modern Rolex, a Batgirl (hate that name) and a Yacht-Master 40. Those bracelets are no better than their contemporary Omega bracelets.
But I do hate hate the Bond Seamaster bracelet....
Great video Andy! And I agree in that it’s a strange release.. imo the updates to the watch aren’t ones that people will notice and justify the price increase with. White dial professional would have been a much better release!
What collectors should consider is for how long the MKI was produced (2019-2024) to the MKII (2024) as far as I know. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I got both for a halfway reasonable price, and the reason was because the MKI is a classic and the MKII because of the SaturnV rocket, the finer details and the different caliber. I love them both.
Yes, I also have a Daytona, but my “daily” is a Seamaster Diver300 with a little Gold on it. It doesn’t look like much, it’s sturdy and reliable.
Thanks for this interesting review!
I as a Watch collector do mnot care at all what other people thinks about watch sizes, dials, brands. stiles, etc, as long I am not getting it with a strap, any strap. And I weal four watches from my collection- An Invicta divers with cal. 2824-2 and is a 45mm dia, 52 mmm lug to lug, and Ocean7 LM-8 Diver's chronometer with a 57mm dia case and 54mm lug to lug, a Seiko with a Mecaquartz Chrono movement, and an Omega Speedmaster Chrono with Master Co-Axial movement, and has a 39mm diameter. So my collection have to be with divers and Chronographs that I like.... And I don't like that Speedy at all, dial is too cluttered. Otherwise, very nice and thoughtful review.
Well over £10K… Yup, £13.5K! That’s £300 more than a Daytona & also a wait list piece. Preferred the older ref to this one. And prefer the Daytona to both the latest & previous ref of this. Just a bit too busy, tacky & big. Do like the grey side of moon, though.
But can Rolex make a watch in ceramic, or are they capable of laser ablation. No I didn't think so
@@ALL-il1swRolex introduced their own proprietary ceramic material in 2005 I think & have ceramic bezel inserts across a lot of the models. Laser ablation… to make a moon surface effect? What, did Omega go to the moon… they really should make more of that fact! 😂 Yawn. Omega have dined off it for years. It’s boring & tiresome & the dial is too busy for it. Ps. I own a 3861 Moonwatch so am not negative Omega in general.
@@KeepingWatchUK wow ceramic bezel insert. They should bring out a new colour and blow everyone away. What about ceramic case? No I didn't think so. Have to admit though when ever Rolex releases a watch that isn't SS sports watch their own fan boys revolt. (The 1908 was beautiful). Yeah, I know the moon thing bothers you, Omega should do something cool like lie about summiting some mountain. The laser ablation I raised, because like the ceramic case and so many other innovations by Omega Rolex is even capable of keeping up.
It can keep the previous ones company in the display cabinets at £13.5k .
@@SaintWill70 you sure? That's the problem with marketing. They're selling an idea and you have bought into believing in a company. If they were so capable, why don't they, why have they never produced high horology movements, why don't they innovate, why is it people lose their minds over a new dial or bezel colour. Because unfortunately as popular as they are, Rolex is not capable of making a watch like this. Which I tend to think is why Omega is hated on so much
Andy, I tried this on yesterday, side to side with the ‘Mk1’, both of which were available in a London Boutique.. the new ones etching is noticeably improved but the Saturn V? -meh.
I’m a NASA nut and love the Moon-watch Apollo heritage, but as nice as the new one is, I think the ‘8’ stood well enough on its own with a decorated 1861 …it’s now in Ed White 321 territory price wise, so I don’t think adding a current movement and tooling improvements justify a £3.5k hike.
Now that ‘special editions’ have replaced ‘limited editions’ enabling omega to sell thousands over time (like the FOiS), I think we could see more of this sort of thing to keep things ‘fresh’. After all they need to sell watches, but if had already bought an Apollo 8 I’d be pretty miffed now!
What’s next?.. a Silver Snoopy mk2 once the markets been satisfied and they’re in AD’s windows?😉probably not, but no one thought they’d update this one !
At least a good old limited edition couldn’t be messed with.
I was able to check it out at the boutique and it’s a really nice piece, but my rep and I agree it’s not worth the premium. The little rocket is cool, but unless you carry a loupe, you can’t really tell when looking at the watch normally.
Another good video Andy cheers
Thanks for the video! If the Apollo 8 was on a bracelet, it would be one of my favourites, however, it’s not and it’s too bad. I still think a preowned Omega Speedy 3861 Sapphire Sandwich is one of the best values in the market.
Feb 29 for the leap year?
I think it looks great, but I am also big fan of the DSotM.
Andy, Thank you for the timely video. I like your thought process. Yesterday I tried on the Apollo 8, Mk 2. It’s a nice watch, with a lot of detail. I like the yellow and black. $14,300 before tax in the US. Question: Would you take an IWC 46mm Big Pilot over this watch? The IWC is $1,000 less, but not a factor. Which watch pops the most in a crowd, in your opinion. I’m old, so appreciation isn’t a factor for me. Thanks.
Yikes. I wouldn’t buy the MK2 on principle tbh. Save a few quid and buy the Mk1 that’s still available.
Not sure how big your wrist is, but the BP is a cool watch and wearable for most, although not as a daily for those of small wrist. For the money, and not knowing what else you have, have a look at the IWC Pilot 41 in ceratanium or the JLC Polaris date. I’d also have a look at the Speedmaster Moonphase. These are worth a look and wear incredibly well.
The Omega's is much better, in my opinion, regarding to its special and unique design. The IWC'S looks like so many watches you can find for 100 bucks and nothing special on the design
Andy, where do you have the Feb. rumours for the white dial Speedy from?
I think I heard on a watch podcast. Only rumour.
Never been happier for my A8 mark 1 than now🖤💛🖤
It annoy me however I now need to refer it as a “MK1” to differentiate.
What a great watch 👍👍
Current Mk.1 price is £10100, up from about £8700 12-18 months ago. £13.5k for this new one, rocket hand and all is just ridiculous. It’s somewhat of a niche model, without the mass appeal of the classic Moonwatch. Reviews have also noted it’s difficult to tell the time during daylight hours too, due to the hands disappearing against the dial. A Mk.1 from the grey market is the way to go if you must have one.
Great model. Period.
The overall consensus is that the price for this is too high. Although I would have preferred something closer in price to the mark 1 I do believe it was underpriced originally. Considering that the old price is the same as the current no date sub with the level of finishing and technology. 14k for this level movement and ceramic is pretty par for the course given the price of similar feature Zenith defy. I hope to see some new iterations of the other (side of the moon collection) as they are getting a bit long in the tooth.
The overall consensus never dives any deeper than the name on the dial.
@@ALL-il1sw exactly, once it's not Rolex, Patek, or AP some folks can't justify not getting 20% off as a standard. 😆
Andy I think you’re around my age and like you I’ve owned many Omega watches over the years and I’ve always been a Omega fan but over the last few years for me its all turned to 💩 this piece of junk with a bloody rocket glued to it is a case in point 🤦🏻♂️ many models are in desperate need of a replacement or scraping altogether. Thick cases terrible bracelets poor bezel action on all the divers etc🤦🏻♂️ what are your thoughts?
This watch is a special that will only attract a handful of collectors and that's fine. I just see the need for it here. Regards the rest of the collection, I agree. Hopefully we'll see some movement this year.
Your Planet Ocean is beautiful - sort of no nonsense and beautiful at the same time.
Nice $600 piece
It looks like MoonSwatch details are trickling down to Omega Speedmaster instead of the reverse 🤔
For the money go for an Apollo era original ST105.012 highly accurate and will never depreciate in value
The Apollo Mark1 is a nice watch. Why have they stuck a rocket on the dial. . Looks terrible. And you pay extra for the rocket 😂. Why don’t they just release a real version of the toy moon-swatch. Everyone will be selling their house to get one. Thank.
Has anyone considered why Omega updated this watch? Maybe customers of the original (or potential customers) were put off due to it not being Metas verified? And now they have and upgraded a few other things, they are getting critised for it? The only criticism i have is the strap (should be a nice luxury item) and the fact the lume is a lot less than the original
I'm still waiting when omega will release the green side of the moon lol Seiko should do the same since it was first real mechanical automatic watch on the moon
The minute and hour marker hands are too dark blend in to the dial, manual winding and the yellow are the things that made me sell mine. Would have been a perfect watch if they changed those 3 things then new rocket added looks pretty damn cool.
Bro, there is a latterly white line in each marker which make a better contrast with the black/Dark grey dial!
I can’t believe the prices of new watches these days. I bought an Omega Speedmaster Professional (Hesalite on a steel bracelet) new in 2008 for less than $3000. $7000 today
Inflation, man. Blame the Gov.
My rocket was up originally for this watch
I almost bought the first version, loving the laser ablation. What held me back was the very poor legibility of the hands … almost impossible to tell the time which is fundamentally problematic for a watch!
I had that issue for a short time, however quickly your eyes pick up what to look for on the face. It certainly is an issue that I would have imagine they would have addressed, even a little.
I have exactly the same problem with the 50th anniversary snoopy. When any of the hands are over one of the blue subdial's it's near impossible to read the time! Was going to sell the watch as a result but my sons won't let me!
Cool watch, not for me, but it’s cool.
I really like. Gimmicky but cool
Think it’s a bit shameful for a brand like Omega to propose such an anonymous wooden case for this new version - particularly with such price increase.
Never really understood the red decorations of original version’s case seen the yellow details of the watch itself but at least was a commemorative choice for a commemorative version rather than such a generic wooden case which has been there for years on all sorts of different models.
They should realised the hesalite one manual wounded of course with the “medal” case etc that would be impressive not almost same watch with a rocket it’s like a Lego luxury watch why not make it on the Swatch &Omega 😂 aiaiaiaiai wish nobody buy this! People who bought the Mark I must be like you said Sir very pissed off !!! I would for sure !!!!
Can you see any grown up with some sense paying that sort of money for a watch with a bloody rocket on one of the subdials? Good luck to Omega finding customers for that piece.
Agree. Though you’ll find a lot of wealthy Omega fan boys queuing for one. Maybe in hope that spending such money improves their chances of a Daytona with the AD 😂
Just bought one. And, it’s looking good.😊
They introduce massive price rises then discount most of the range. Make your mind up Onega
People used to buy watches because they loved that particular watch and wanted to have their own collection! Now it’s all about value and resell lmao it’s kind of pathetic
Rolex and everyone else around them have ruined it for actual collectors and people that love watches
Everyone now.. oh you bought that you kno it lost value the second you left the store right?
Lmao like come on
Everything loses value!! Rolex lost value the second you walked out too unless it was a limited model just like omega Cartier ect ect
Covid helped Rolex and that’s it
BUY a watch because YOU like it!
I don't know. So far as I can see, almost all Swiss mechanical watches are ludicrously overpriced. This is a bit of fun. If you can easily afford it, why not. Otherwise just blah on about how many Seiko whatevers you could get for the same money.
I am a massive Omega fan but by God they are so over priced
Just bought one. But you better not.
Engraved moon surface? This is pure kitsch, people.
as an owner of the original I'm peeved that they have updated the model, it smacks of laziness and is a real kick in the balls for owners of the first iteration. Not impressed.
Why? Watches are always updated.... Look at Rolex ffs..... They tweak their watches all the time. If you love your watch who cares what they've done with this one.
@@johnprosser5035 I care about that insane price man
The model doesn’t do it for me, looks a lot like a Citizen Blue Angel (which is a cool watch, but not 10k).
I must agree with you Andy. The rocket second is incredibly silly. But the original Apollo 8 movement was rubbish. The sequel thankfully has a movement that's worthy of the Apollo 8 mission
Nobody like price increases, I don't either. But what nobody understands ( because every seems to be a shallow brand wh0re) is this watch has upgraded movement which is now METAS, the laser ablation has evolved and now provides a much greater level of detail both from and back. The saturn rocket was laser cut and detailed. The watch is thinner for those complaining ( my moneys on their still not happy) and the clasp is now deployant. My point is. At least with Omegas prices rises, you get more watch and more innovation. For those looking for the negatives. Well the badge still reads Omega
there is no need for any watch company to come out with a new watch every year
This I agree… but this watch is amazing, I was with one today!!! Amazing watch! Ok is expensive, but the Daytona is more and the level of detail or finishing of this one is much higher
@@Not_me9791the level of tackiness is also #rockethand
@@KeepingWatchUKyeah a space ship on a space watch is so tacky. They should have done something fun like put emojis on the dial. Nothing tacky about that😂
@@ALL-il1swI agree. The emoji dial DD isnt for me either. Nor the celebration dial OP.
It’s for kids
Too big !
I'm really sorry Andy, but due to content overkill (not you) I decided to unfollow. I want to say I absolutely like you as a person, as a gentleman, and I like the way you're presenting your videos. But as I already commented before, for me you are too focused on Rolex, Tudor and Omega. I had wished for a wider area of content, price-wise as well as style-wise. Especially as I see you as a person that suits brands like Cartier, JLC or VC. All the best for your channel, and for you in life 😘
Cheers Gerry. That’s a long break up message, but appreciate the sentiment. I just make what I feel passionate about.
Nope.
Do you honestly believe that men traveled to the moon 50+ years ago?lol
First red flag this watch is a no buy, it says "Omega".