Reading Your Feedback | Steam Edition | PSO2NGS
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Reminder these are not to bully or "dunk" on anyone providing feedback. Its to not only read through but provide context and points/counter points from my personal time and perspective on phantasy star games. Your more then welcome to disagree with me however be respectful to one another. Also I like calling based takes based.
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Most doomers are similarity
1) they played base for long time
2) they hated ngs with any contents
3) they are mostly f2p nowadays
4) they don't grind
5) they put those words on their mouth all the time ' i want ngs/global shut down'
6) they joined and hide the communities they are looking for people or tried to pull people at their side
7) they get pissed off easily especially in ngs
8) they said they no longer in this game and they still paid attention in ngs , or they were lying they are still logged in daily
I do have to say, over the passing 3 years, NGS appears to show it have frightening potential.
Before in base we also have tutorials on how to spam dash using PA skills and other cancel dash movements lmao
I am convinced at this point that Krono haven't hit 10k yet is because people have gotten so used "hopefully by the end of the year" that they don't want a video without hearing that xD
P.S. I'm subbed and love the videos!
Im not at 10k due to my own short comings. I have pretty shit editing skills and little time to work on vids between everything I want to and need to do. Ill get there but Im going to grind it out. I gain and lose subs every day so we'll get there.
I said on Reddit one day Pso2ngs is a really good game especially for a f2p. I ended up getting myself banned from the NGS Reddit page arguing with idiots abt my statement. They're all clowns honestly especially the moderators on that server. They wouldn't acknowledge I only got disrespectful after being disrespected. That experience almost made me stop playing but I like the game way too much.
That's just reddit to be honest, a lot of them haven't played in years and still think the game is the same as it is from 2021
@@raevenent751 That makes sense, a lot of ppl have been saying it's Reddit. Imo it's just poor minded individuals because i think most of them still played they just wanted to doom the game. I thought a page dedicated to Pso2/Ngs would have a more positive & healthy discussion abt likes or dislikes but I was wrong. Found out the hard way abt Reddit lol
I highly disagree that we should have only 4 skills
dude you really tried to read global's feedback as if it was a good idea, there's nothing but "game mean mean make me buá buá where's my baby bottle" feedback
Bunch of crybabies especially on Reddit. You can't even say you like the game without ppl finding reasons to complain abt that
If you wanna advocate or be are spoke person, tell sega to fix the player’s market?
Also get rid of the ridiculous 3day pass and salon pass so it can be free for everyone.
That’s your challenge if your able to do that well I’ll listen to your feedback
Brother ive been advocating for that forever. I said i want to I didnt say that its gana be perfect
@@KronoKatastrophy
That I don’t know I barely started watching you on the second year when ngs global was starting to be a thing.
Also In that time I didn’t in who to watch.
Bout ngs stuff not to disrespect you or me sounding like an ass but at this moment that’s how I feel when someone talks bout changes in the game.
Just to clarify I’m not hating or judging your point of view sometimes I do like what you say but I do respect you ideas.
Hopefully in the future sega can do something.
But yeah thanks for reaching out to me didn’t mean what it sounds I haven’t watch all your videos just current videos.
Again sorry if I sound rude my bad.
Truthfully, I'm not sure if that's a good idea when you think about PSO2's history with rmt'ers.
@@Sepatile
The other UA-cam Monarkey talk bout that in one of his videos I can agree, to his arguments if you wanna check it out I think it’s in the economy video and an other part in character customization I believe..?
He has strong support points so far what I’ve seen no one can’t make a comeback at this point of time because it was in pso2.
Second it’s base on people opinions and for there way of thinking to get rid of the options to do this or that.
It takes away the balance of economy.
RMT everyone using it every day?
Are you suggesting that people using AC.. with real money is responsible for unfairness?
As a Jp base pso2 player i just flat out prefer pso2 base gameplay. NGS feels flacid and boring. I since moved on but i hope the game gets better and better.
Heres some feedback, i think taking pso2 and turning it into a single player game with coop would be awesome instead of having to download ngs just to play, coop could be p2p so no servers are required. Allow offline players to set events for themselves and every so often maybe update the game with a new boss or so.
NGS sucks especially for a solo player. Without friends there is no reason to play.
I compare pso2/pso2ngs directly to PSU. quite frankly I think pso2ngs is 100% a downgrade. base pso2 was better compared to NGS, but PSU was imo far better. yeah fancy pants graphics but overall gameplay feels pretty bad. woohoo we're faster, we can attack differently, and everything works differently. Sure it's a new 'BASE' of a game to work on and add to but man, they did not improve ANYTHING. I don't mind playing, but i'm getting to a point where pso2ngs is straight up a cash grab, they're moving from open world to dungeon crawler again. And yeah pso2ngs should be a subscription based game, 19.99$/mo that way everything similar to PSU is baked into the game, everything is easier to obtain or free to obtain, small amounts of extra paid for cosmetics are fine but most of it needs to be dropped via killing monsters and farming missions. like man getting that rare mission on PSU was a HUGE deal. now everyone is super in pso2ngs. everyone has the giga affixes, giga weapons, giga armor, all the cosmetics because they fork up the 100's of $$$ for AC. sheeeeesh giga sigh.
People will love/hate NGS, no escape from that. Me, I like NGS due to simple gameplay and character customs. Yes it's meant for casual, but I appreciated that because it allows my wife to play with me and she likes it alot. It's nice to play together where she's not frustrated with complex features, cuz she's a very casual gamer. She tried base game and she hated it. So simply, people who like/love the game let them have that to their own reasons, and for some who dislike/hate it, that's ok too there are plenty of games out there. What's pitiful is people who dislike/hate it are still coming/logging back in to either play/complain. Stop torturing yourself and move on to better things, it'll make you feel better.
Cool video. I respect the effort it took to listen to and process the feedback and then respond. Nice work.
This perspective sounds more 'dated' than off. Of course, my usual problem with the comments people make about NGS is that a lot of them feel like they're trapped in a time bubble, ignoring known information about both past and future developments. A good amount of it could potentially have been accurate at one point in time, but is way off in terms of where everything is now.
If I were to pen a short review of NGS now, I'd say this:
NGS contains a lot of efforts to update PSO/PSO2 which make sense on paper, but which have some notable drawbacks in practice. The design of combat sectors is a good example. It has elements of an old PSO map, with 'rooms' of enemies scattered all over the place, trials that serve as the 'trap rooms', and a random meter that mimics the process of navigating and unlocking rooms in a maze to unlock the way to a boss at the end. The structure of it, allowing for multiple rounds of combat with full drop-in-drop-out multiplayer serve the end of assisting in the common player practice of 'grinding' for certain items.
However, the lack of that structure has an interesting effect on how the mission/gameplay is perceived, along with some other side effects. With more efficient grinding, the idea of taking one's time and absorbing gets lost quite a bit, as does the scenario (immersive reasoning) behind the in-game objective, and drop rates can tank severely to make up for how blindingly fast players can amass enemy kills and how long those with excess time to spend can keep this rate going per day. As a result, a casual player may find these areas quite uninteresting to engage with, and due to how little they want to spend long periods of time there, will have next to zero chance to see the rewards from them. This clashes somewhat with NGS's trend toward working with busy, casual players.
Yet the game has since added a large number of other quest types that use its general content and collection of enemies much more effectively than combat sectors. Most prominent is Leciel Exploration, which balances so many critical aspects of NGS's gameplay effectively. The 1/5X death limit puts just enough pressure on effective play without being stressful; the loot being distributed regardless of full or partial success also removes stress and wasted time; the rooms make good use of the field gimmicks SEGA has experimented with over time; the goals make numerous aspects of gameplay relevant, even killing normal enemies effectively, and the variety keeps it interesting to play from day to day and even lends usefulness to imperfect playstyles like multiweapons.
That's just the one quest. Time Extension quests are essential for a certain currency and honestly, the weekly team spams of this quest type always end up being extremely fun. I love running them as a specific alt character with a weird weapon type that's very good at AOE damage. Major Target Suppressions work like rematch urgent quests in base, but give an early, more difficult preview of tougher bosses that will eventually feature as normal urgent quests. Nameless CIty provides a new way to engage with an open area, basically functioning as a fully-open Tokyo from Episode 4 which provides abundant drops for a specific type of gear. This quest also feels like a much better adaptation of NGS' initial open world attempt, and more effectively combines it with older PSO gameplay. The potential to incorporate more dedicated boss encounters, united player goals and explorable elements into this map/content style suggest a much greater potential for NGS than its initial showing.
In a lot of ways, NGS is like a large experiment that ended up addressing the question of 'wtf IS content, exactly?' It started out missing the point by quite a lot, which led to years of experiments to figure out how to answer that question in a more definite way beyond the hemming and hawwing that people are prone to when someone actually presses this question. With the open-world bubble having popped in recent years, the game has been leaning down a different path, but not one that totally reverses its initial idea. It's somewhere in between, and slowly finding answers by asking an answering its player base, albeit at a slow and steady rate. It's rather serendipitous that the game's story is about a mass experiment to regain the glory of old ARKS.
everytime I see someone complaining about fashion being released every week I wonder: how old are these people? the game free to download and play, their business is literally selling virtual outfits, what do these people expect? do they think the company doesn't have to pay employees, bills to run, make profit, or what?
To be fair, if I had to address all points of that that wall of a failure feedback I'd have to write a wall here and that's not happening
I think they complain about it because as soon as it releases the time for the 'casual' player to get the meseta for it isn't practical. Enjoy grinding 10 hours of Dext like a normal person to get maybe 2 items that are the 'good' looking items. Don't skip a week otherwise you're behind on your meseta for the next.
@@EisenstahI matches exactly what I said. Outfits are for those putting AC, that’s the business. Every decision surrounding it is to keep the game alive and pay the investors.
If outfit is important to someone who’s want to stay free to play, they have to find ways to optimize meseta gains. Thinking this will change to please free to play players is extremely naive, there’s zero chance a company would deliberately make a change to reduce profits for no reason
Can't beat the system just pull out the wallet, it's a shrewd but effective tactic.
@@EisenstahI I’m ok with that when it’s about cosmetics, but ngs allows you to get more meseta and use that meseta to gear up, so it’s indirectly a somewhat pay to win system. I’d say that if free to play can gear up with grind and still be just as strong as a paying user, that’s not a problem at all
@@EisenstahI and just a food for thought: if sega made everyone just get more meseta out of the blue, that would be the real life equivalent of printing more money. If everyone out of nowhere had 100M in bank you’d watch a 5M worth item become 25M in shops. That just happens naturally without anyone force it
1st review, guy was talking from a perspective where the base game NA was already fleshed out. He didnt play during natural release of base jp. So hes expecting the same frequency of content and systems base NA was pushing out when NGS came out. A lot of people make this same expectation and ruin it for them to never come back .
I have a whole bunch of feedback… but realistically, what do I even expect from a dev team that took 1 year to release a zone that is just some buildings you make in blender in one week max and is just as uninteractive as the base zones.
I have a longass list of stuff this game does like shit and I think just like 2 points among those got addressed.
Oh man 8-10 years? That's like base levels. Idk when new MMOs release they normally have way more activities then NGS ever did. Maybe Sega should add some lifeskills or something other than some obscure card game.