Scythe Buff, Fang Nerf, Elemental & Ranged Styles, Agility & Thieving Improvements | Ramble 191
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On the "a whole nother" side ramble: it's called an infix (similar to suffix at the end and prefix at the beginning). It can even be used between words like "You're god damned right" and it's really the same linguistic construction. It's fun stuff.
thank 😊
As nouns the difference between infix and tmesisis that infix is a morpheme inserted inside an existing word, such as {{term|-i-|lang=en}} and {{term|-o-|lang=en}} in English while tmesis is the insertion of one or more words between the components of a compound word.
@@TimeDoor50for someone that seems to know so much about the English language, this was a hard sentence to understand.
Side not I looked up morpheme and I feel smarter now.
It's nice that a lot of the points we talked about on our cast have been validated by Jagex. Really hoping they keep expanding on this project and look to rebalance even more than just what's in this blog.
I'm not sure where it falls now with all the changes to entry mode but I vividly remember trying to find groups to learn ToB with a friend ~4 years ago and it is/was BRUTAL. First 50 ToB kc is easily the hardest to get of the three raids. I do not personally find it to be overly difficult but I've ran it hundreds of times at this point. I think it has the most potential to go wrong and the wipes feel really bad.
The voidwaker nerf isn't necessary, at least not in PVM.
Agreed. Dragon claws are used more often in PVM and they haven't thought about nerfing those have they? Voidwaker nerf is absolutely useless imo.
I could see them lowering the accuracy a little to not literally be guaranteed damage, but it should be king for speccing high defense targets. Places like Vard actually have some interesting use cases of claws vs. waker because you can go for high damage with claws but risk missing accuracy, or vw for guaranteed damage but lower damage potential
I saw that my soulreaper axe was 243m and thought, its time to watch a sae bae video😂
Hardest part of tob is finding a team as a learner haha
It isn't just as a learner either. Pretty much
but if u say this on reddit they tell you that ur an idiot with social anxiety xDDD@@jakeman52
I help run a small TOB/HMT clan, and we do tons of learner raids. A big challenge for us is that a lot of learners are not ready for TOB. We can often look at players bossing KCs and predict who is gonna seriously struggle to learn/survive.
Jagex really need to implement some kind of raid finder with a loot share system
I hope they don't make brimhaven *too* much like sepulcher, but kind of more in the middle of sepulcher and traditional agility courses. Kind of like the werewolf course where there are ways to improve your time/save ticks but it isn't punishing if you fail, but maybe with slightly increased/more difficult ways to improve said exp rates
Was stoked to hear your opinion on this one, might be a big topic of discussion coming into new year, as I've already read thru I'm stoked to see you react to some of them
wish they also had plans to buff the DHL vs dragons as its almost not even worth grinding out with the fang on stab.
Occult is fine with anything but the shadow. The shadow is what makes the occult seem so OP.
Im 1 defence so occult only gives me 2 max hits with the sang. Makes no sense to nerf the occult its the shadow thats broke. Good video as always almost forgot to say. Good job Sae Bae :)
When leviathan came out and all the drops were javelin heads, i thought it implied that there was a huge ballista weakness. Like triple damage or guaranteed max hit if you hit the X spot on its back. I hope theres more things like that to come with this rework.
ya ballista could have a use somewhere
Dude I LOVE "bring the weapon for the situation" that just makes the game that much more fun because there is more skill in bringing different inventory setups.
Or it makes the game that much less fun because this is a game that many people like because of its simplicity, rather than despite its simplicity.
@@janitorizamped that simplicity ship sailed a long time ago, if you’re just now starting to notice that then that’s on you. I think you’re making a non argument for bringing weapons for situations other than you don’t like the inconvenience. Monster weak to crush? Bring mace. Monster weak to slash? Bring sword. It’s not advanced physics my guy.
@@MithDragon you're argument has zero logic. "Theres already complicated aspects of the game so there's no reason to not make everything more complicated"
Please try to actually engage with my comment if you don't want me to call you a complete moron.
STILL DEFENDER SCAPE really sad that there was no talk about shields.. :(((
just for fun, the phenomenon you're trying to explain in the beginning is a tmesis or an insertion of a word or phrase between parts of a compound word or word group. the more you know
The new ranged and magic defences proposal make me so excited. Ranged ammo being divided in "Heavy, Standard and Light" is exactly what I had in mind. Strange that they think bolts are heavy tho. I'm also wondering how powered staves are going to work with elemental weaknesses.
Yeah that’ll be interesting. I’d initially think based on the runes you charge them with, like:
Warped Sceptre-Earth
Tridents-Fire
Sang Staff-Blood
But accursed/thammaron’s sceptre is charged with ether instead of runes, and Shadow doesn’t use any elemental runes. Also, water probably makes more thematic sense for tridents. Maybe:
Warped-Earth
Tridents-Water
Sang-Blood/Fire
Accursed/Thammaron’s-Air
Shadow-Typeless Magic because it’s already busted and doesn’t need the benefit of certain NPCs being weak to it?
@@adamwoolston253 Yeah, I definitely prefer the thematic route. If you have to give the Shadow an element it would probably be shadow lol
@@charkoney that would make sense lol, I’m just trying to wrap my head around making a boss EXTRA weak to Shadow. I guess we’ll have to see how it plays out
I can't wait to actually use an Earth spell on something
Voidwaker is only bis at toa/pnm/nex (only with full torva melee)/ and vorkath
I’d say its in a good place now, with how rare it is and the uses it actually got.. You use claws way more then vw still.
Nerfing it will make the wildy bosses dead content again, and so pvp less active. And it will make the voidwaker basicly useless which is a waste for such a fun weapon in my opinion.
But then again im a main and can just grab claws instead, so sit ironmen!
And as far as the ancient godsword bieing more dps then the sgs. I’d say thats the way it should be since the ancient one is way harder to obtain.
The rest of the changes are all for the better i think! Very nice
regarding magic, if they could just fix the magic accuracy formula to actually make use of the magic defense stat instead of pure magic level, and then remove the auto-cast delay, that'll go a long way to actually solving the problems with the style, rather than just being "Buy a Shadow"
I listen to all of your pods and rambles, but like dude your take on the scythe charge system is feel like is a little overblown. You have a necklace in your bank that puts you like 15 tiles away from the well. You could even make it a 1 click tele. Is it really that big of a hassle? Now i dont own a scythe, while i do have other charged weapons yes it is great to just stand at a bank and recharge but realistically it takes 10 seconds to charge the scythe. Dont die on this hill please
It's only overblown due to the amount of players that want all charging to be removed from the game. They want it removed because of the inconvenience of it, not because of the costs.
I know it's one sentence in like a twenty page post, but don't nerf Voidwaker!!! It's literally just claws but accurate, the melee spec meta is so diverse, cmonbruh... fang is out there fucking up the whole combat style and they want to nerf my boomstick... such a good blog post otherwise 😢
I truly hope they consult GEchallenge and BC Guppy on these
How is the lightbearer not getting nerfed. It overshadows every ring in almost all high level content(chambers,inferno, toa, nex, nightmare). Give it negative melee,range, and mage str(not too much, but a little to make it a choice). It's also 2m and is so easy to get for how powerful it is. Won't even have to nerf voidwaker if lb is toned down a bit.
because specs are fun, before lb people just camped b rings which is lame.
I like the suggestion to use scythe charges based on hitsplats, rather than the 3 or 0 situation that they proposed. I think keeping vials of blood would be OK and doesn't conflict with your idea. Imo, moving away from charging melee weapons with magic runes would be nice thematically, so I would disagree with removing the vials and keeping the blood rune cost. My biggest gripe with this whole situation is the "chore" aspect when a player runs out of these specific items- farming crystal shards, vials of blood, blood shards... they all come from very specific content. As more and more of these charged items come to the game, we should be wary of the time sink it takes to do all these chores. A solution could be to have an option to use gp- i.e., you can pay a special vampyre npc to use their vials of blood to charge the scythe.
I think Jagex likes having the "chore" aspect. Ironmen aside, it gives alternative ways to earn gp for players (esp newer ones, or accounts with special builds like a skiller). Plus, even as an iron, you are incentivized to play longer just so you can do your chores which is a statistic all gaming companies love.
I feel personally targeted on the "prayer flicking cows" as a child tangent xd
Haven't watch vid yet, but curious to hear your thoughts on the agility rebalances.
Especially where brimhaven course xp/rates should be.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't brimhaven best xp around 72k ish/hr before sepulchre came out? This was with roof top courses.
Not sure if there was anything special you had to do to get those rates.
I think what Jagex is eyeing is a rebalance at lower levels aswell, as it is available at lower levels but terrible experience. Another thing, is that experience and tickets should probably be seperate, so that getting the collection log items isn't a basically null-xp kind of thing.
On the topic of “hardest raid,” I agree tob isn’t as hard as people make it sound, but getting carried and going in as a group of 4 learners is much different. My friends and I that duo all day chasing rng and times can carry anyone through a “normal” scale of 3-5 and could even carry a 4 man HMT. Back when I learned in a group of WDR learners we wiped constantly in just about every room to mechanics as we learned them. Back then wiping in rooms like p2 because 2 out of 4 of your teammates died to a bounce and a cabbage was incredibly demoralizing. There’s no dpsing through reds with void and whips as 2 people in a 4 man scale as WDR learners. Compare that to normal toa (150-295 invo) or an easy cox scout with no V’s or tek and there’s no comparison for base line mechanical knowledge of the game. Everything can be more easily brute forced to some extent or has a higher level of wiggle room (like exploding nylo in verzik compared to voli baboons in monkey puzzle). Not to mention more forgiving wipe mechanics (assuming hardcore raider is off, but who’s doing learner toa with hardcore on). As for your comparison of 500s are hard, ya they are but you can also get carried through those even if you’re going for a deathless kit, you can get 2+1 carries to trade you ambrosias and can literally sit out ever room other than warden. You probably won’t get it on your first attempt if you’re new to the content, but you also probably wouldn’t have fun in the same situation as a 3+1 HMT carry.
Another banger Sae Bae keep it up
Abso-fuckin'-lutely!!!
Where is your log basket sir
A-fucking-mazing ramble bro. The word for "a word inside another word" is called a tmesis. 8-)
this is awesome. im extremely pro defence changes. massive upgrade
They are making changes so that elemental spells aren't ass, and that there are uses for each spell type? Well damn, maybe they did listen to my cast... ~Dr. Torag
sae gae
no u
I really hope SRA buffs are enough that it can be used as a budget scythe
Love your vids but I completely disagree with the voidwaker nerf. Voidwaker is the chase item people go to wildy bosses for. The only reason people use voidwaker is for the guaranteed damage from the spec. If that's taken away, it'll be useless since its max hit is lower than dclaws. In turn, it'll make wildy bosses dead content which jagex was trying to avoid with the wildy boss update earlier this year.
If scythe charges worked more like blowpipe (vials of blood "charge" it and blood runes "load" it) then your idea of the 1 rune being consumed per red hit splat would be viable. I think that's a great idea.
Ben waiting for this to drop ❤️
i like all the changes but i literally just bought a voidwaker and already lost 40m
jagex more like swagex
Comment so i can come back and watch when my new born wakes me up int he middle of the night 😂
Do you think sae bae was more exited for Christmas as a 5 year old or this blog post
Idea: no vials of blood needed for scythe charges. Just blood runes.
Instead, vials of blood become 4 doses, with a "spill" option. Each dose spilled can turn 25 pure essence into blood runes granting no XP.
More ways to get blood runes, ties the value tp blood runes and probably increases price of vials of blood plus profitability of TOB
No one doing an 600 8 man lol chambers hard? It’s the chilliest of them all also can’t solo or duo tob
U can def duo tob there is a ca for it solo only a handful of people can
Great fucking job by Jagex
100% tob is the easiest raid
"A whole nother" is not correct. Another is a portmanteau of "an other."
It’s called slang you nerd. From Merriam Webster - “Nother is a real word which functions similarly to other and another, and its use traces back to the early 14th century. In the late 19th century it became more common to see the word nother paired with whole, constructing the phrase a whole nother. The reason this is often seen as an error today is because this phrase is used almost exclusively in dialogue or to represent informal speech in writing.”
@IAmAlteringTheDeal the way he was talking about it in the video, it sounded like he was saying technically it would be correct to say nother, which makes it sound like he's talking about proper writing. You would not get away with using nother in any formal writing. But yes, in the same way that "literally" means figuratively, nother is a valid word.
@@gnifemaul You're right, he literally calls it a "proper" thing to say and seeing as he's highlighting it in a formal piece of writing, it wouldn't be the "proper" phrase to use. Any type of slang goes informally but this was just a 'nother (zing) infamous incorrect sae bae grammar/writing lesson.
idt the occult is truly the issue
Is there an ETA for agility changes? Thanks
Un-fucking-believable!
they are already going to be changing the max hit from 1 - max so doing that to the scythe is going to do effin nothing lol
I agree that tob isn't hard. It's only hard to get into because of the social aspect and some elitism in the community (sometimes warranted because it's so easy to fuck over your team)
I hope they take a look at the tier 80 melee weapons. Nerfing fang in such a way leaving a chasm between t80, 1 handed weapons and scythe does not seem like a good thing to me. Especially with new bosses like Duke and Vardovis.
Also hope they will take another look at Nightmare.
and here we goo
It's really concerning to me how their idea of a rebalance with respect to skilling sounds like it's going to just be "buff everything." There's definitely a lot of dead skilling content in this game, but why not look at what might've killed it. They talk about agility without any mention of sepulchre being too rewarding.
Until they at least acknowledge that it's a problem that sepulchre, volcanic mine, and drift net fishing totally exceed the rates they were polled at, it honestly just sounds like they're talking about a different game every time they bring up skilling balance.
would you be a fan of evolution of combat again ?
lmao your voice its real nerd ty for info
big fan
BIG fan
with charged weapons were the weapon would shine it should use the least charges, but were it should not be used more.
not a combat math guy. and i think the normal spell book should have more love maybe lunars too. pot share can be intresting but now allot are ironman it cant work.
whats your opinion on a posible prayer strengh for a future raids 4 reward?
Sounds dumb
Opisthocomus hoazin
Nice
When he said TOB was the easiest raid and then immediately goes into "just go in with 4 other players with max gear". Show me your solo TOB run. such a clown.
Interaction bait success 😎
against them nerfing fang, fang is fine where its at
they're not really nerfing it tbh. it will still be a top tier stab wep that barley miss on tanky bosses weak to stab.
I kind of dislike that they reference tick manipulation and essentially say it's the go-to for best gains. While it's true that it's a feature of the game and can be manipulated as such, I've always viewed it as an unintentional feature. Now they're outright toting it as an acquired skill (which it is), however, it turns off players like me who don't want to develop carpal tunnel for dopamine. I understand it's about xp rates, efficiency and all that. I just miss having fun.
: )
i feel like occult is fine as is.... what is the point of them nerfing it and spreading the bonuses to ancestorial?? all that does is hurt irons and mid lvl mains who cant afford good robes... as magic is ass and isnt really a viable cb method outside of the few bosses weak to magic untill you got a shadow staff.... so this really kills mains who cant afford ancestorial and irons who are gatekept by rng.... i
Yikes no improvement for smithing or runecrafting😢
They are ruining my melee progression by nerfing my fang idk why it needed to be nerfed it was already.
only nerfed for slash not a big deal
Nerfing tbe Occult and redistributing its magic damage bonus is DUMB and only hurts low to mid lvl players while leaving high lvl - max gear players alone. Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of, just nerf the shadow
Ok so I actually read the blog post as soon as it was released so it's pretty annoying to hear you read through what I already read. Would be nice if you split the commentary from reading the blog and had a timestamp to where people can skip to the commentary
lmao sae bae always has to have that snowflake opinion
You get carried for ToA kits and CAs
No wonder you think it’s harder than ToB
I solo'd both my kits September 2022, thank you very much!
best devs of any game ive ever played, such a rarity
sae gae