I applaud any talk of increasing the defence budget but not an imbalanced cyber focus. It must have flexibility and adaptability. We still need navy RAF and Army capabilities. All eggs in one basket is a mistake
Blame the consumer looking for the cheapest price , the manufacturer looking to cut costs to the bone to increase shareholder profits and the pension companies for buying into companies that look at profit over country loyalty.
they are bully's n vengeful n imperialist. the current autodictatorship running the affiliated Provence's seen as China have nil to do with any leadership dynasties prior to 70yrs ago. the leaders in power those 70yrs can barely steer the nation from within, any actions are always in reaction n to stifle shared power. external the leadership has no idea how to collaborate n grow relations, again bully n steamroll n threats to keep a perceived power position may look pragmatic but in reality exposes n highlights paralysis of governence n brittleness n instability of underlying foundation. there system is stretched to the limit n teetering on the brink of certain unrecoverable system failure
They have city's with more population than the entirety of England Scotland wales and northern Ireland combine you have next to no air defense against ICBM and even your biggest allies the United States have said you are no longer a first class military force sorry please explain how your going to stand up to the biggest economic superpower the world has ever seen?
Why would China need anything from UK? It is not even a power on the global stage. You are nothing to us. You dont even have enough economic strength to maintain two small skip jump carrier. Other country negotiate from a position of strength while UK negotiate from a position of weakness.😂😂😂😂
By ‘us,’ do you mean the subjugated Chinese population? In that case I’ll keep my freedom, no matter how much money or power you have, you cannot buy your freedom. 😂
What British values are you talking about? Since more than one year of the Israel - Gaza conflict the British establishment shows its humanitarian values and love for human rights. I didn't hear that the Chinese government killed in the last decade as many civilians as Israel only in the West Bank yet business with Israel as usual. So for me any deal with China without mentioning human rights is also okay. There is no point in playing double standards cards. Just stop pretending that the UK is pro human rights and move on.
You do realise there are millions of muslims in west china living living in virtual slavery. Arab israelis have far more rights than your average chinese citizen, never mind Tibetans or Uyghurs. If you want to look up an actual genocide look up what is happening in Xinjiang.
you are wrong. Since the trade war started, China grew its trade ties with the Global South rapidly, while shrinking trade with America and the west. China dont need you. You desperately need China.
China needs Western export markets far more than we need them. Of course, we should have been building factories in other countries a decade ago to offset the risk.
You do know that you need skilled workers and natural resources for that?Also our governments have been creating coups, many countries in the Global South want nothing to do with us
Standing up to Chinese bullying tactics is precisely the sort of thing that a large, multinational conglomerate based in Europe would be good at. Some sort of Union of Europe, perhaps. If only we were part of such an organisation
The theory that trade decisions are only made at government or industry level is wrong. China's slowdown can be attributed to individuals worldwide deciding to limit or cut ties with Chinese companies. I certainly have. My spending on Chinese goods has reduced by at least 60% over the past two years.
Definitely not 2wrongs dont make a right and i wont degrade myself to there level i wanna set an example of value and teach others how 2treat 1another trend setter never been a follower and never will be✌
What would the US & UK be without...China?🤔 What if there was no China just pretend, how would the US/UK be different, without any China relationship...🤔
YHWH helps people who helps themselves so Britain should do all she can for herself and also pray. Might be nice to maintain some of the _Christian_ culture that built the UK in the first place.
Sorry but UK needs markets to access for growth. We have almost blown the bridges with our closest and easiest (once) to trade with. So as we have done with others we will grovel for tuppence 😢
Being a member of an organisation which sells more to you than you sell to it seems a pretty poor relationship to continue. Sitting inside a tariff wall and pretending that will level the playing field is a recipe for depression not success. Adam Smith recognised that over 200 years ago and it still holds true. Free trade works whereas tariffs work to crash economies.
I disagree. China don't need to trade with us and soon the British pound will start to lose value due to the economic slump under the Tories and Brexit.
Wel theyr economy is going up, not so sure about Britians futer... but its al about the headlines so peopole atleast in theyr minds can have a better realety
I applaud any talk of increasing the defence budget but not an imbalanced cyber focus. It must have flexibility and adaptability. We still need navy RAF and Army capabilities. All eggs in one basket is a mistake
Human rights? What about impending war? Whoops! Let’s not talk about that.
Stop selling out to lowest bidder. Cheaper goods should not be excuse for turning a blind eye to harms being done
Blame the consumer looking for the cheapest price , the manufacturer looking to cut costs to the bone to increase shareholder profits and the pension companies for buying into companies that look at profit over country loyalty.
The Chinese are pragmatic not emotional.
they are bully's n vengeful n imperialist. the current autodictatorship running the affiliated Provence's seen as China have nil to do with any leadership dynasties prior to 70yrs ago.
the leaders in power those 70yrs can barely steer the nation from within, any actions are always in reaction n to stifle shared power. external the leadership has no idea how to collaborate n grow relations, again bully n steamroll n threats to keep a perceived power position may look pragmatic but in reality exposes n highlights paralysis of governence n brittleness n instability of underlying foundation. there system is stretched to the limit n teetering on the brink of certain unrecoverable system failure
lol, they are extremely emotional.
British values Britain does not grovel to china got to be level headed with china be strong.
They have city's with more population than the entirety of England Scotland wales and northern Ireland combine you have next to no air defense against ICBM and even your biggest allies the United States have said you are no longer a first class military force sorry please explain how your going to stand up to the biggest economic superpower the world has ever seen?
If you remove the £% spent on the nuclear deterrent, the UK spends just over 1% on defence, not really much at all.
Needs to move North of 3% pretty quickly. No time to waste.
Why would China need anything from UK? It is not even a power on the global stage. You are nothing to us. You dont even have enough economic strength to maintain two small skip jump carrier. Other country negotiate from a position of strength while UK negotiate from a position of weakness.😂😂😂😂
By ‘us,’ do you mean the subjugated Chinese population? In that case I’ll keep my freedom, no matter how much money or power you have, you cannot buy your freedom. 😂
Thanks.
What British values are you talking about? Since more than one year of the Israel - Gaza conflict the British establishment shows its humanitarian values and love for human rights. I didn't hear that the Chinese government killed in the last decade as many civilians as Israel only in the West Bank yet business with Israel as usual. So for me any deal with China without mentioning human rights is also okay. There is no point in playing double standards cards. Just stop pretending that the UK is pro human rights and move on.
You do realise there are millions of muslims in west china living living in virtual slavery. Arab israelis have far more rights than your average chinese citizen, never mind Tibetans or Uyghurs. If you want to look up an actual genocide look up what is happening in Xinjiang.
you are wrong. Since the trade war started, China grew its trade ties with the Global South rapidly, while shrinking trade with America and the west. China dont need you. You desperately need China.
China needs Western export markets far more than we need them. Of course, we should have been building factories in other countries a decade ago to offset the risk.
You do know that you need skilled workers and natural resources for that?Also our governments have been creating coups, many countries in the Global South want nothing to do with us
Standing up to Chinese bullying tactics is precisely the sort of thing that a large, multinational conglomerate based in Europe would be good at. Some sort of Union of Europe, perhaps.
If only we were part of such an organisation
Tom, you're here talking about human rights issues. What about human rights issues in Palestinians in Gaza??.Double standards!
The theory that trade decisions are only made at government or industry level is wrong. China's slowdown can be attributed to individuals worldwide deciding to limit or cut ties with Chinese companies. I certainly have. My spending on Chinese goods has reduced by at least 60% over the past two years.
Rachel Reeves visits China: god help us all. They will run rings around that clueless novice.
Conservatives, grow up the UK Empire is finished and you are now a middle sized European country with a relatively weak and lonely economy.
A white British person coping with reality that UK is.nothing in China's eyes It is fricking hilarious.😂😂😂😂
Undermining our future, don't make me laugh.
U already have done that in having keir starmer leads us into oblivion.
I often say the same thing to the missus.
We need to treat people how they treat us
Definitely not 2wrongs dont make a right and i wont degrade myself to there level i wanna set an example of value and teach others how 2treat 1another trend setter never been a follower and never will be✌
What would China be without the western market , nothing at all . They might want to rethink their actions against the west resently .
What would the US & UK be without...China?🤔
What if there was no China just pretend, how would the US/UK be different, without any China relationship...🤔
Or do both…🙏
YHWH helps people who helps themselves so Britain should do all she can for herself and also pray. Might be nice to maintain some of the _Christian_ culture that built the UK in the first place.
Sorry but UK needs markets to access for growth. We have almost blown the bridges with our closest and easiest (once) to trade with. So as we have done with others we will grovel for tuppence 😢
Being a member of an organisation which sells more to you than you sell to it seems a pretty poor relationship to continue. Sitting inside a tariff wall and pretending that will level the playing field is a recipe for depression not success. Adam Smith recognised that over 200 years ago and it still holds true. Free trade works whereas tariffs work to crash economies.
On the contrary, China does have the power, whether it can be bothered is another discussion....
I disagree. China don't need to trade with us and soon the British pound will start to lose value due to the economic slump under the Tories and Brexit.
Yes, Britain is one country only, China selling its goods to everyone around the world.
The chinese trolls are out in storm on this one
Tugendhat is an irrelevance.
probably slagging all of us ''them lot'' Tommy supporters
Wel theyr economy is going up, not so sure about Britians futer... but its al about the headlines so peopole atleast in theyr minds can have a better realety
Going down you mean 😂
Yikes
Listening to British basement bloggers talk about how china doesn't have control of their second world island seems ridiculous.