I can appreciate the fact too many is too many but abandoned boats add a lot of charm to local Gulf Island waters. They also can make great homes for marine life. I recall hearing about a giant homeless octopus that took up living in a car at Deception Pass Washington.
Great vid. We (from New Zealand) visited Salt Spring Island Oct 2015. loved the scenery, the people we met, the food we ate. Well worth keeping this part of the Commonwealth pristine, otherwise it will become like so many other small islands that get polluted and ignored. BC need to develop a robust legislative framework that enables full recovery of salvage costs from the insurer or owner.
I'm so proud of these guys, who do all this clean up oh behalf of the community , it is so cool ... they should become some reward in some way, for the good work they are doing ...
You are doing a great job solving a real problem. Restoration takes money (very green), a site to work, tools, common sense and woodworking skills. All these are mostly lacking in those young enthusiasts who buy or acquire these old boats. The end result is that enthusiasm dissipates, the boat is abandoned and ends up on the beach and other have to clean up after them. This is also happening here on Saturna.
Recycling is the key. Metals,woods and plastics can be recycled but fibreglass is more tricky. I believe there are special sealed furnaces that use thermal pyrosis to reduce it to non toxic dust. This is mixed with ash and cement to make building blocks. Perhaps the metals value might offset the costs involved. Scrap wood as firewood and any good stuff reused. You have my admiration for a noble effort.
You talk about the sea of plastic, ever been in the military? I was in the Marine Detachment on the USS Theodore Roosevelt. The garbage generated daily and dumped when out at sea is amazing. Try starting there.
Dang. When you said boats I thought you meant more than one. 2 abandoned boats is not a crisis. The boat you dismantled looks like it could have been a good fix project for someone.
Shame When you are looking for a floating home and you see abandoned ones just rotting away like that, invokes an odd emotion, something between anger, sadness and envy.
This may be a stupic question, but if a boat is abandoned, why can't somebody just come along and take it for their own, assuming that the engine still works and they aare able to get it out of the way, and work on it elsewhere. Surely that would be an effective way of clearing up at least SOME of them
This was really cool to watch!! We have a place on gambier island and there's 4 abandoned ships in our bay. We had the expo 86 mcdonalds restaurant around the bay for a while too! That was creepy haha!
BTW the Pacific Gyre in which you speak of is not twice the twice of the US.... Its twice the size of Texas... The Great Pacific garbage patch, also described as the Pacific trash vortex, is a gyre of marine debris in the central North Pacific Ocean located roughly between 135°W to 155°W and 35°N and 42°N.[1] The patch extends over an indeterminate area, with estimates ranging very widely depending on the degree of plastic concentration used to define the affected area.
I want a commercial (or any type) trawler to build a yacht out of...how about letting me know if you find one? also there is wooden boat rescue foundation, as a chance to find it a home before destroy a boat and send all the crap in to a land fill. I really wished yall had told folks about that boat.
I remember this "problem" back when I owned a boat. Every harbor has boats that some owner simply left (tied up). You cannot just take it even though everyone knows it is abandoned (laws & lawyering is incredible). The harbor authority has to "declare" them unowned before anyone can touch them (and even then nobody wants them (full of mold and dirt. Really nasty.) cannot just sink them, cannot trash them (materials are BAD). Genuine white elephant.
We have this problem at our lake. However we don't have a daily tide as you do. We bag them, and float them to the shore in the spring, then during the winter pool (low tide) we smash them with a dozer, and haul them to the landfill.
I'm looking for an abondoned boat exactly like the one demolished, to recycle into a floating home. I've held off because I've heard of horror stories about legal red-tape associated with adopting abandoned vessels.
Easy answer to this problem. Allow easy transfer of ownership to anyone that wants to salvage it and repair it, then fine the people that abandoned it whatever the cost of transport to wherever the new owner wants it.
It's so sad to see such wonderful boat's going to waste Im looking for a workable liveaboard boat to be my home for the rest of my life one that needs some love and sweat!!!
I remember some of those boats when they were lived in....years ago...some of those those boats got around....wow, after watching this vid, im shocked at the disrespect of some ppl. The garbage island has grown in expediance since the asain earthquake. congrats to the all your hard work!
So am I to understand that a boat just like the "beautiful pretty" one on its side on "the beach" here in this video CANNOT be taken over by anyone LIKE ME and overhauled brought back to life?! be fore I comment further is that correct?? It could NOT have been taken over by anyone???
There is nothing easy about restoring a boat . that boat they just took apart is restorable if you have a $500,000 laying around and if you do just go buy one that does not need restoring .
OK I don't want to argue . but I own a 53 ' trade winds trawler and I know what it cost to maintain them .I just spent 30K updating the electrical system in mine , hauled and painted and gel coated 2 years ago 15 K that boat is not restorable and not worth resorting .
I would have loved doing a restoration on that old boat! I work in a yard here in the UK and spend my spare time and money restoring boats just like that one!!
I think this is dumb. Just scrap the steel, copper and aluminum then torch the rest. And if you find a large boat 50 foot or so just call a marine salvage company and tell them they can have it for free.
Some don't understand . These boats are worthless . We need to clean up the garbage we leave behind . Yes I agree the owners should be contacted ...To clean it up .
These are the people who pull into a harbour throw down an anchor and live on social assistance. When they discover their pieces of garbage need repair, they cant afford the repairs and simply abandon the boats. They kicked them out of Rocky Point last year. That area has been cleaned up. Tighter restrictions are needed.
Some can sometimes be restored. most times it is too expensive when they've sat for so long. The upper portion will look to be ok but the hulls bottom will be shot and not repairable .I believe therefore they become eyesores and hazards and best removed. Good project by aware and concerned people.
That was heart breaking watching that old girl get torn apart. What a lot of commentators here don't realize is just how much effort and money is required in maintaining a boat. And once its usable, the cost of fuel, the cost of moorage, the cost of hauling it out every couple of years to sand and reapply anti-fouling paint (prevents inevitable marine growth, usually copper based) etc. Its unfortunate to see them get abandoned like that.
Why can't you burn these things? It would be less contamination by burning than if they were just left to pollute the environment! a controlled burn and then remove the part that doesn't burn!
I cant believe they are allowing the destruction of perfectly good property, there are ways of reclaiming these boats and plenty of people looking for them, a better solution would be a web site and program put in place to hook people searching for these projects up with a location
Why not get rid of all the so-called good boats you have in marinas? They are leaching more copper and metal down under the marinas then any of these. Also, find homes ashore for them as Yard Art.
Idiots are everywhere. Hundreds of thousands of poor people in America with no home of their own, and these people go about destroying boats. Any poor teenager or college kid in America spending all their paycheck on rent would love to have a desperate chance at getting an old boat, and renting a place at the dock and living out of a house boat. The same goes for military planes in graveyards, or abandoned trains, buses, and storage containers.
Go ahead and do it, then. Why not start an organisation to connect people with boats needing adopted, kind of like the Adopt-A-Burro programme? Mere;y criticising people for cleaning up pollution is not helpful.
If someone had the $1000 or so costing to remove the boat to repurpose it for land use (building or display), everyone would be saving old boats! Everyone wants the boat, until it isnt delivered to their house for free.
What a nice old boat lots of character. So why chop it up so it can be replaced with fiber glass one I don’t think so Why not put it on EBAY ill bye it Did he say safety shoes walleyes and flip flops
I guess it is fitting to have so many "TROLLS" on a Boat Video,...nasty, useless, negative and disgusting TROLLS,...always remember to never feed the TROLLS
'i actually live here! please don't tear down my house!'... i wondered why my father-in-law moved into a house! some idiot probably had his home towed away. its amazing how many really poor people salt spring island has without housing. many are not on any welfare, or have wealthy family. looks to me another movement to get them out of sight has begun. we have a boat in that harbor, touch it and i WILL sue you for costs and mental anguish!
ya know, if yall tried to take a little less effort and get the boat foatabl, you could give it to one of the scout programs to sold , or you could sell it yor selves, and pay for some of those fees that you spend everytime you hual something to the land fill...where it be just as bad for the enviroment as it is when you found it. just remember that if you find a old trawler in as good shape as the boat you sis this vid on, then email me before you start cutting.
There is a reason boats are called "holes in the water where you throw money" and poor people typically DON'T own boats. Just keeping them safely afloat is quite expensive, and slip fees are higher than most rents. What seems like a good idea to you is so because you simply don't know what you are talking about.
seems like they could have stripped the engine etc, floated it out and sank it as a reef, put a bunch of those 'mud boats' together and you'd get a respectable sized reef for fish habitat, instead of filling a landfill. If they were really thinking about environmental impact, then this is better than land fill. Me, I'd have pulled off anything even remotely valuable and burned it in place. Cheers!
In the good 'ol days, you'd run her aground, bust out the hooch and burn her to the keelson. Have a clam bake/retirement party for her. With all the costs of getting rid of one now, the less endowed just scuttle them in deep water. Commencement Bay/ Puget Sound here has quite a few on the bottom.
LoL!!! Fiberglass lasts for hundreds of thousands of years! I laugh my but off!!! MAYBE 40 or 50 years. LOL LOL And lead base paint? You mean like was banned in 1978, boy that paint job really lasted.
I'm amazed at the ignorance of the armchair experts making comments. Too lazy to really find out the facts about the problems these boats create.Do nothing seems to be their moto. I wonder how far that philosophy takes one. Probably to the nearest bar.
That 'Pacific' pool of rubbish mentioned is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to the 10 million tons of Pagan religious junk that comes down the Ganges River EVERY year. Where do they think it goes? But heck, we don't want to mention that let alone criticise.
Thank you to you all giving your energy to help the natura.
I can appreciate the fact too many is too many but abandoned boats add a lot of charm to local Gulf Island waters. They also can make great homes for marine life. I recall hearing about a giant homeless octopus that took up living in a car at Deception Pass Washington.
Great vid. We (from New Zealand) visited Salt Spring Island Oct 2015. loved the scenery, the people we met, the food we ate. Well worth keeping this part of the Commonwealth pristine, otherwise it will become like so many other small islands that get polluted and ignored. BC need to develop a robust legislative framework that enables full recovery of salvage costs from the insurer or owner.
I'm so proud of these guys, who do all this clean up oh behalf of the community , it is so cool ... they should become some reward in some way, for the good work they are doing ...
You are doing a great job solving a real problem. Restoration takes money (very green), a site to work, tools, common sense and woodworking skills. All these are mostly lacking in those young enthusiasts who buy or acquire these old boats. The end result is that enthusiasm dissipates, the boat is abandoned and ends up on the beach and other have to clean up after them. This is also happening here on Saturna.
Recycling is the key. Metals,woods and plastics can be recycled but fibreglass is more tricky. I believe there are special sealed furnaces that use thermal pyrosis to reduce it to non toxic dust. This is mixed with ash and cement to make building blocks. Perhaps the metals value might offset the costs involved. Scrap wood as firewood and any good stuff reused. You have my admiration for a noble effort.
You talk about the sea of plastic, ever been in the military? I was in the Marine Detachment on the USS Theodore Roosevelt. The garbage generated daily and dumped when out at sea is amazing. Try starting there.
This is a long running ad for Veins of Life Watershed, not a visit to several abandoned boats in and around Salt Spring.
Dang. When you said boats I thought you meant more than one.
2 abandoned boats is not a crisis. The boat you dismantled looks like it could have been a good fix project for someone.
there are way more than two ..I live here and have been on a boat here for 30 years
Shame
When you are looking for a floating home and you see abandoned ones just rotting away like that, invokes an odd emotion, something between anger, sadness and envy.
thanks guys
Hi is there a law or you have to go by to retrieve or clam abandon boats here in BC and how long do they have to be abandoned for?
This may be a stupic question, but if a boat is abandoned, why can't somebody just come along and take it for their own, assuming that the engine still works and they aare able to get it out of the way, and work on it elsewhere. Surely that would be an effective way of clearing up at least SOME of them
Nicely shot; great framing and editing. Nice work!
Thanks for your appreciation!
This was really cool to watch!! We have a place on gambier island and there's 4 abandoned ships in our bay. We had the expo 86 mcdonalds restaurant around the bay for a while too! That was creepy haha!
BTW the Pacific Gyre in which you speak of is not twice the twice of the US.... Its twice the size of Texas...
The Great Pacific garbage patch, also described as the Pacific trash vortex, is a gyre of marine debris in the central North Pacific Ocean located roughly between 135°W to 155°W and 35°N and 42°N.[1] The patch extends over an indeterminate area, with estimates ranging very widely depending on the degree of plastic concentration used to define the affected area.
WHY NOT PUT AD IN PAPER SAYING FREE BOATS YOU MOVE
Great video!
I want a commercial (or any type) trawler to build a yacht out of...how about letting me know if you find one? also there is wooden boat rescue foundation, as a chance to find it a home before destroy a boat and send all the crap in to a land fill. I really wished yall had told folks about that boat.
Is that the Minnow?
I remember this "problem" back when I owned a boat. Every harbor has boats that some owner simply left (tied up). You cannot just take it even though everyone knows it is abandoned (laws & lawyering is incredible). The harbor authority has to "declare" them unowned before anyone can touch them (and even then nobody wants them (full of mold and dirt. Really nasty.) cannot just sink them, cannot trash them (materials are BAD). Genuine white elephant.
We have this problem at our lake. However we don't have a daily tide as you do. We bag them, and float them to the shore in the spring, then during the winter pool (low tide) we smash them with a dozer, and haul them to the landfill.
I'm looking for an abondoned boat exactly like the one demolished, to recycle into a floating home. I've held off because I've heard of horror stories about legal red-tape associated with adopting abandoned vessels.
That's not true in Florida. they would be glad to get rid of it if you pay to have it moved. and there are a lot of abandoned boats around
Easy answer to this problem. Allow easy transfer of ownership to anyone that wants to salvage it and repair it, then fine the people that abandoned it whatever the cost of transport to wherever the new owner wants it.
'lead' was here before we were.
Suggest you worry less about 'abandoned' boats
I would love to give $50-00 to take ownership of one of those boats if it was in reasonable order and bring it back to UK for restoration
It's so sad to see such wonderful boat's going to waste Im looking for a workable liveaboard boat to be my home for the rest of my life one that needs some love and sweat!!!
good effort but that was heart breaking watching that old girl get torn apart.
I remember some of those boats when they were lived in....years ago...some of those those boats got around....wow, after watching this vid, im shocked at the disrespect of some ppl. The garbage island has grown in expediance since the asain earthquake. congrats to the all your hard work!
taking care of your own backyard. i like that. good job.
Do these vessels float why cant they be sold?
the 2 best days of owning a boat....the day you buy it and the day you sell it.
So am I to understand that a boat just like the "beautiful pretty" one on its side on "the beach" here in this video CANNOT be taken over by anyone LIKE ME and overhauled brought back to life?! be fore I comment further is that correct?? It could NOT have been taken over by anyone???
how come they don't pass the cost on to the last registered owner?
try to find them...and if you do you can't squeeze blood from stone
Great idea but because I just purchased your boat and never registered it you are now on the hook for it after I'm done with it.
it hurts me to watch this i thought they were going to restore them
That boat on the beach could be restored real easy, it looks in not bad nick. I can't believe someone wouldn't take that for free and restore it
There is nothing easy about restoring a boat . that boat they just took apart is restorable if you have a $500,000 laying around and if you do just go buy one that does not need restoring .
truck87654321 No way, if you do a lot of work yourself it wouldn't cost a fraction of that
OK I don't want to argue . but I own a 53 ' trade winds trawler and I know what it cost to maintain them .I just spent 30K updating the electrical system in mine , hauled and painted and gel coated 2 years ago 15 K that boat is not restorable and not worth resorting .
truck87654321 Friend opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.
Yeah some opinions are based on experience and some are just that , a Opinion !
I would have loved doing a restoration on that old boat! I work in a yard here in the UK and spend my spare time and money restoring boats just like that one!!
Yes, why destroy the boats??
As orthers have said, trace the owners before breaking the boats totally unnecessarily.....
Blessings;
Tell the folks of Ganges, ancient clown sends his love. They are forever in his heart and he hopes his path leads back that way again.
I think this is dumb. Just scrap the steel, copper and aluminum then torch the rest. And if you find a large boat 50 foot or so just call a marine salvage company and tell them they can have it for free.
Why is the owner not held responsible?
+mickster boone The owner is probably dead and gone
find out why..we're not your mother
Some don't understand . These boats are worthless . We need to clean up the garbage we leave behind . Yes I agree the owners should be contacted ...To clean it up .
why dont they sell some of the Restoration able ones
that second boat is a shame! a beautiful boat! :(
During Demolition you could separate the metals for Recycling as scrap; that'd be a good source of funds for the program.
i think they are neat to look at
These are the people who pull into a harbour throw down an anchor and live on social assistance. When they discover their pieces of garbage need repair, they cant afford the repairs and simply abandon the boats. They kicked them out of Rocky Point last year. That area has been cleaned up. Tighter restrictions are needed.
Some can sometimes be restored. most times it is too expensive when they've sat for so long. The upper portion will look to be ok but the hulls bottom will be shot and not repairable .I believe therefore they become eyesores and hazards and best removed. Good project by aware and concerned people.
Some times the obvious seem to elude even the best intended. Why not offer a salvage fee to people who want to get rid of their old boats?
That's awesome its people like this that make a difference...These boats are eyesores and pose a environmental hazard.....Great job!!!
That was heart breaking watching that old girl get torn apart. What a lot of commentators here don't realize is just how much effort and money is required in maintaining a boat. And once its usable, the cost of fuel, the cost of moorage, the cost of hauling it out every couple of years to sand and reapply anti-fouling paint (prevents inevitable marine growth, usually copper based) etc. Its unfortunate to see them get abandoned like that.
place Ineed small report on the island salt
Why can't you burn these things? It would be less contamination by burning than if they were just left to pollute the environment! a controlled burn and then remove the part that doesn't burn!
You fill the hull with foam and let mother nature float it away for you? as in it just floats out to sea? Smacks of "not in my back yard."
I cant believe they are allowing the destruction of perfectly good property, there are ways of reclaiming these boats and plenty of people looking for them, a better solution would be a web site and program put in place to hook people searching for these projects up with a location
Totally agree....you're not boat enthusuasts are you?
What a shame to destroy the boat.
why cant you just find the former owner and make them clean up there mess
Why not get rid of all the so-called good boats you have in marinas? They are leaching more copper and metal down under the marinas then any of these. Also, find homes ashore for them as Yard Art.
The owner of that boat is probably pissed!
Idiots are everywhere. Hundreds of thousands of poor people in America with no home of their own, and these people go about destroying boats. Any poor teenager or college kid in America spending all their paycheck on rent would love to have a desperate chance at getting an old boat, and renting a place at the dock and living out of a house boat. The same goes for military planes in graveyards, or abandoned trains, buses, and storage containers.
Leave the old wooden boats alone. The restorable ones will one day be restored, the un-restorable ones are romantic follies.
@siamsurf indeed recycle it! , don''t rip it appart i agree with you .
I don't understand why they didn't just dragged that boat off the beach?? And put it on a trailer and haul it away?? Would of been a lot less work.
Boat at 1:19 is salvage. Ill take it.
Geez that 38 ft old cruiser is still in restorable condtion, i'd take that if it was free for sure
What a shame about that big boat, I'd love a boat like that. Before they dumped it and left it to rot, of course.
Recycle, one man"s garbage, another man"s treasure.
It can be reuse or recycle what a waste of intellect you just destroy jt and make a container full.... Whise up guy's what a shame !!!
Go ahead and do it, then.
Why not start an organisation to connect people
with boats needing adopted,
kind of like the Adopt-A-Burro programme?
Mere;y criticising people for cleaning up pollution is not helpful.
after the boats are gone, what are you going to cry about next
+bettyboop65340 There's way too many rocks.
and they're all in your head
won't cry for you
its glass and pottery anythigh fired in a kiln that dosnt brake down thats history left behighnd
@porpoisefathom
That boat was rotten to the bone, so not worth to be restored.
If someone had the $1000 or so costing to remove the boat to repurpose it for land use (building or display), everyone would be saving old boats! Everyone wants the boat, until it isnt delivered to their house for free.
What a nice old boat lots of character. So why chop it up so it can be replaced with fiber glass one I don’t think so
Why not put it on EBAY ill bye it
Did he say safety shoes walleyes and flip flops
They are destroying the relics of the future. :-(
I guess it is fitting to have so many "TROLLS" on a Boat Video,...nasty, useless, negative and disgusting TROLLS,...always remember to never feed the TROLLS
If you were looking for a reaction to your video, look no further than the comments - WoW
'i actually live here! please don't tear down my house!'... i wondered why my father-in-law moved into a house! some idiot probably had his home towed away. its amazing how many really poor people salt spring island has without housing. many are not on any welfare, or have wealthy family. looks to me another movement to get them out of sight has begun. we have a boat in that harbor, touch it and i WILL sue you for costs and mental anguish!
Green is for the "clean" people, not for the poor.
But you didn't pay money for it, nor did anyone else, and since it was sitting on the sand, nobody snapped it up for free. Hence the problem.
ya know, if yall tried to take a little less effort and get the boat foatabl, you could give it to one of the scout programs to sold , or you could sell it yor selves, and pay for some of those fees that you spend everytime you hual something to the land fill...where it be just as bad for the enviroment as it is when you found it.
just remember that if you find a old trawler in as good shape as the boat you sis this vid on, then email me before you start cutting.
There is a reason boats are called "holes in the water where you throw money" and poor people typically DON'T own boats. Just keeping them safely afloat is quite expensive, and slip fees are higher than most rents.
What seems like a good idea to you is so because you simply don't know what you are talking about.
shoot i would love to help i need a free boat ill just haul one or two off i need a project to build a boat and restore them
seems like they could have stripped the engine etc, floated it out and sank it as a reef, put a bunch of those 'mud boats' together and you'd get a respectable sized reef for fish habitat, instead of filling a landfill. If they were really thinking about environmental impact, then this is better than land fill. Me, I'd have pulled off anything even remotely valuable and burned it in place. Cheers!
man i would of like to have that boat
Why would someone abandon a good boat some of those you could easily have gotten 15000 for.
Get a bulldozer make a big pile and light it off - simple as that
Bulldozers cost money to rent. Are you going to pay for it ?
2002films
Forget the dozer, - light it off where it sits
Blackaboe Thats if its non hazardous materials like plain wood. What about fiberglass ?
2002films
The rezen burns and the fiberglass is left behind. Haven't you ever seen a burned corvett?
dummy its in the water
just have a big beach barn fire just burn the sucker them just clean up the ashes and metal after
BUT I DONT THINK THEY SHIT OIL?
In the good 'ol days, you'd run her aground, bust out the hooch and burn her to the keelson. Have a clam bake/retirement party for her. With all the costs of getting rid of one now, the less endowed just scuttle them in deep water. Commencement Bay/ Puget Sound here has quite a few on the bottom.
Yes. The owner is the responsible party!
guess i shouldnt bring another floating hotel, seems my lat one, didnt go well, bwahahaha
LoL!!! Fiberglass lasts for hundreds of thousands of years! I laugh my but off!!! MAYBE 40 or 50 years. LOL LOL And lead base paint? You mean like was banned in 1978, boy that paint job really lasted.
a lot of them preceed 1978
why not toally break it down and haul it to a landfill and save money?
I'm amazed at the ignorance of the armchair experts making comments. Too lazy to really find out the facts about the problems these boats create.Do nothing seems to be their moto. I wonder how far that philosophy takes one. Probably to the nearest bar.
i just dont understnad why someone would throw these beautiful boats away! sell them! so many people would love to get their paws on them, like me
You sound crazy. Threatening to sue? U.S.A! U.S.A!!
plastick does brake down it crumbles slow not in your time but the next three generations maybe
That 'Pacific' pool of rubbish mentioned is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to the 10 million tons of Pagan religious junk that comes down the Ganges River EVERY year. Where do they think it goes? But heck, we don't want to mention that let alone criticise.
01:20 - the SS Minnow