Ecoflow Delta 2 with expansion battery - Best midsize power station in 2022
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
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The Delta 2 has a 1kw LFP battery, expansion port to double or triple it's 1kw capacity with an extra battery, powerful 1,800w inverter, dual 100w USB-C, regulated 12v output, super fast 1,200w wall charging and more. This is an excellent unit and is no toy top choice for most people looking for a power station for home backup, van life, or camping.
I also compare this to popular models like Anker Powerhouse 757, Goal Zero Yeti 1000X, Jackery Pro 1000, Bluetti EB 70S and EB150 to see how it stacks up (tl;dw - it's the best option, by far)
MC4 solar charging cable - now included in the box with Ecoflow solar panels but not included with the Delta 2
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:29 Launch pricing
2:48 Original Delta vs. Delta 2
4:32 Key upgrades
5:42 Extra battery
8:34 Smartphone app
9:26 USB output
9:55 AC output
12:30 DC output
13:35 Wall charging
15:00 Solar charging
16:15 Car charging
16:58 Comparison to other brands
19:23 Wrap up
I was provided a free review unit from Ecoflow but all opinions are my own.
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Got my delta 2 two weeks ago and the extra battery just arrived today. Great unit, I use it almost every day.
Great to hear!
Excellent review video, Todd! I loved the comparison section at the end showing other competitors options. This really is the new standard for power stations and other companies need to catch up. I'm glad they finally went with LFP batteries, HUGE plus for safety and longevity!
Thanks Jason! Yeah, this one is a winner for sure. Happy to see the LFP switchover happening so fast.
@@todd.parker hi , I'm looking into power packs in the £1k price range, would you say this is better than BLUETTI EB240 ?
Not only full of tech details, but excellent production quality. Love the cuts, camera movement and angles, audio, graphics. Because I do it myself I know the extra time it takes to execute at this level. Well done!
Thanks so much, really appreciate that
Thanks for your comment! I completely agree with you about the production quality of the video. It really does make a difference when a creator puts in the extra effort. Speaking of quality products, have you heard about the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It's a versatile powerhouse with a massive capacity of up to 5kWh and a fast recharge time. It's perfect for outdoor enthusiasts like us who value reliability and uninterrupted power supply. You should definitely check it out!
The weight of this unit makes it my favorite. I can take this all around my farm to power tools when doing chores. Paired with a Delta 2 Max makes it an amazing supplement to my back up configuration.
what i want from the delta 3/pro external batteries, is a dual 500w MPPT charger on each external battery with right angled cables, or rear connectiors so they can be placed close to each other
While 2 external batteries can run most of my house overnight, if i want the external bartteries to be charged during the day, grid power is required
i'd also love the pro to have 3 battery connectors, with the 3rd one maybe dedicated to the generator if adding a 3rd battery is unreasonable.
This is the power station that I would love to have since I can use it for more than 10 years with those LFP batteries.
Thanks for the video Todd. I bought the Delta 2 with 220 Solar today for use in my Camper and ad home in the Netherlands.
Good choice!
LFP is a gamechanger! Considering the purchase of an Ecoflow for this winter in Ukraine. Thanks for this review! 👍
It really is! So happy to see Ecoflow making the switch. LFP doesn't work well at or below freezing so keep that in mind. Sending you and your country our thoughts, let's hope things continue to get better in Ukraine.
Mine is powering my washing machine right now. The extra battery helps outa bit too.. And I bought the Delta first.. I wish I didn't.. but it's still a good backup.
Note the solar cable they sell is XT60 (yellow) only support 8A, you need XT60i (orange) for 15A which they don’t sell it.
Thanks for the clarification, I was wondering what the difference was in colors, that’s a big difference! I had the XT60i cable from my Delta Max
No problem, the orange plug XT60i has addition pin in middle.
Great job explaining and comparing the units. Thank You
Fantastic review! This helped to consolidate a huge research effort. I'm in. Ordered a Delta 2 today. Thanks for the discount code
Awesome, glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much for the very helpful review
Great comparison shows this product is head and shoulders ahead of its competitors
For someone who has the EB240, I really love the weight savings this offers
Todd I will be looking forward to seeing your reviews from my home State of Nevada while you're at the CES in Vegas, and I will be looking see what might be new in the 1KW solar generator range.
Good review.
Keep up the good work!
Looks like you & other UA-camrs raced to be the first to review this product & it appears everyone arrived at the finish line in a tie.
So far, your review is the ONLY one I've watched; seems like you covered all the bases in your coherent product review. Indeed, EcoFlow has raised the bar for battery power stations.
Excellent, product comparison at the end showing & telling of their pluses & minuses.
Yes, I'm a subscriber & "liked" this video.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada.
So glad you liked the video. This unit is a real winner. All the videos dropped at the same time because we were all under embargo until this morning so they were all scheduled for the same time
@@todd.parker Definitely a WIN-WIN for EcoFlow.
Well executed review! Thanks for the info provided.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it!
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION. VERY HELPFUL. 👍👍👍
The Delta 2 I ord'd is scheduled to arrive this coming Thursday. Useage will not only be for any possible outages, but it will also be replacing my Jackery 1500 that I use in my square drop trailer when camping. Already own the DeltaMax, two Max Smart batteries, an EF Duel Fuel Generator, and two recently purchased River 2's. The River 2's are not only handy around the house, but will also be used for charging phones and usb fans & lights while camping. Hoping EF comes out with a Delta Max with the LFP technology.
Quite a collection! I’m sure a LFP Max is in the works, last one to get the upgrade
Your review of the Delta 2 and expansion batteries is excellent - took 8 pages of hand-written notes! Since I am still in the learning mode on power stations and calculating my specific needs and requirements for a grid down scenario, have you thought about making a video on just how to connect up multiple devices including optimal solar panel setup outside running inside to the power station and ultimately the devices I will define as needed?
Thank you for your comment! I'm glad you found the video review helpful. Considering your interest in connecting multiple devices and setting up an optimal solar panel system, I'd definitely recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It has a massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets, making it a great choice for powering your devices during outdoor adventures or even as a backup power source at home. It's worth exploring and considering for your specific needs. Happy camping and stay powered up!
Thank you for sharing you knowledge and experience. I ordered the delta 2. I will later order the delta 2 max or maybe the delta max. Peace.
Very fine review Todd! Your videography, voice, and background music are distinctive and contribute positively to your branding. The combination of these elements in conjunction with your honest reviews/content creates trust in your videos-at least in my opinion. I subscribe here and enjoy reading your comments on FB groups as well.
Thanks Jack!
Todd, I listened to your review a second time. Great job! I picked up a refurbished Delta 2 for use as an emergency back up furnace for our home here in the hinterlands of Wisconsin. I had a single circuit manual transfer switch installed, but it appeared easy enough. In my town, all electrical work has to be done by a licensed electrician. Because I had an “extra” Battleborn 12 v 100 ah battery that was supposed to be used in my camper-turns out I didn’t really need it-I use it as a DIY portable battery. I have made numerous “pig tails” that allow me to attach it to various components, charge controller, small DC to AC inverter, Victron charger, etc. Case in point, this DIY unit allows me to add 1200 watts (nominally) to my Delta 2. I have been testing this system out for the last few days and when the furnace fan speed goes up or down, modulating the AC draw, the App reports some odd findings, but it soon settles down. Overall, if I didn’t have the generic 12 v extra battery, I think the Delta 2 extra battery is the way it goes. My set up clearly is not as elegant. However, if necessary, I can separately charge my backup battery and Delta, if need be. Of note, because the Battleborn continuously charges the Delta 2 (it delivers 101 watts with an XT60 connector wired to battery terminal rings), the Battleborn would exhaust it’s charge first, and then the Delta 2 would take over. So, I could charge the backup battery during the 8-10 hours remaining on the Delta 2.
I had to return the refurbished unit for defects I cannot recall and EcoFlow sent me a new one. I purchased another new one and have had no incidents. I love the D2 because it can do double duty when I camp-it’s relatively light weight compared to EcoFlow’s larger units was a critical factor for me. Now, despite having a DIY backup battery, the EcoFlow D2 EB is now down to $550. It will provide up to 1800 watts of power delivery, unlike the DIY battery system I have. However, I could use both backups because of their differing inputs. What is your thought based on the current $550 price point for the EB. Thank You.
I feel like the EB is good but if the price is close, you get so much more utility out of the D2. I wish their batteries had USB and DC outputs and solar inputs like Bluetti.
@@todd.parker I agree and that is why I have two Delta 2s. However, with the EB, no swapping of D2s is required, like in an overnight grid failure. I’m on the fence. I use one D2 for the electric powering of my furnace via a single circuit EZ transfer switch, and the second for 6 circuits hooked up to a Reliance transfer switch. I would likely use my DIY backup for the furnace powering D2 and the EB for the 6 circuit D2 (has two fridges on it).
fantastic SoGen - I never looked back👍💨
Looking at all the ports I did count around 15 ports. Which is good for a techie like me with all my gadgets.
@3:31, you had said that there was 5 AC outlets and 1600w on the Delta 2, but that 1600w was for the original Delta. Just wanted to point that out. All in all, a fine review.
It's 1800w continuous with x-boost to 2200w and surge to 2700w
Can’t seem to find the discount code. Great thorough review!
the people at Ecoflow really put a lot of thought and possible use case for this battery, since then, other powerstations became boring in comparison 😂
im still waiting to get a chance to test it here in the philippines , already see it pop up in malls (sadly its just an empty demo shell)
As a Delta 2 owner I can endorse all that Todd has shown here.😉
Best thing in 2022 i've seen
Very good review. It should be noted though that the delta max battery is of different chemistry wit a much shorter life span. 👍
Have to agree, as an owner on the Anker 757 Powerhouse. I got mine for discounted launch price, so slightly less than the Delta 2. The portability and expandability of the Delta 2 vs the Anker makes the Delta 2 the hands down winner. The Anker does have 20% more battery capacity for the price, it's main advantage. I suppose that means for a comparable price your fridge/freezer could run for an extra few hours on the Anker.
I'll see if any Black Friday deals pop up for the Delta 2, fingers crossed!
Glad you agree. I do think Anker is improving quickly so maybe the next product or two will help them pull ahead, we’ll have to see. For now, the Delta 2 is the best value at this size and has the best feature set so it’s a slam dunk
I was checking out a friends 757 and was disappointed there’s no app support. Even on my cheapest EcoFlow River 2 I can see the charge level, set a ton of parameters, etc from anywhere. If I were shopping for a 1 kw unit I’d get the Delta 2 based on connectivity. Surprised the 767 has just BT too.
Great little unit. Have been using mine, with extra battery, in my camper for the last 16 months. There are two things, though, that make me wish I had not bought it. It is very loud in a small space, and it has insufficient 12-volt output for all those 12 volt items one has in a camper.
Question...the ecoflow delta 2 unit has 1800w and the battery has 1800w is it a combined 3600w or is there some power loss in the system for some reason when their paired??.
Outstanding review! Luv the comparisons too. Best review & best in class unit. (BUT, for anyone thinking to add the extra batt for 2kw), I think then the Bluetti AC200 MAX for similar total cost, total higher outputs, much higher solar input, wireless charging pads on top, RV outlet all in a smaller unit since you would have all 2 kW in one box.
I know this is a 1KW review. Just speaking for someone who is considering adding the extra battery module to this unit, makes more sense to go to AC200 max. Thoughts?
I think that’s fair. If you need 2kw, the AC200MAX would is a very good choice. It’s much larger and heavier so if you have use cases where you need more portability sometimes then the Delta 2 is better.
To be clear, you can’t charge the extra expansion battery by itself?
Excellent review.
Glad you liked it!
What's the physical height in mm?
Just bought one yesterday on Prime sale for $499.
With the price of an additional battery being just about the same as a new unit wouldn’t be better to just get two Delta 2’s?
The one i just got is Heavy and hart myself carry it .
have the Max + expansion battery 2000 vers - no regrets + 400 w panel + tracker on order - good place to be. Plan touse solar to power soon to arrive Citroen Ami 100% electric quadricycle just arriving for delvy in UK
Great review and thanks for the discount code. I don't like the idea of buying the extra battery that doesn't have any usable ports on it for stand alone usage. Could two of the Delta 2 be chained together instead?
Glad the video helped you decide. Unfortunately, 2 Deltas can't chained in the way you're hoping. You could certainly buy a pair of them and swap when one gets low but you might want to get a Delta Max if you need the capacity since it will give you 2kw in one package. It's not LFP but I bet that will change at some point soon-ish. I do wish the batteries were more useful by themselves for sure
1800 not 1600 watt inverter. Renogy has an interesting 1kw unit that can be paired for 240 split phase for about the same price.
Hello Todd, great review, thank you for that. Would have been great to have a better comparison between the Delta2+Delta smart additional 1kw battery and the delta max. The capacity would be the same with the mentioned config, but the question is: using the two delta2 batteries connected, would this also increase the output on this? The delta max can hold around 2,4kw output, the delta2 only 1,8kw… if I connect the additional battery to the delta2, will this increase his output?
Which of the two “combinations” would you buy, recommend: Delta2+additional extension battery or delta max? Or wait until a Delta 2 max will be released?
Thank you very much.
Good question. If you already have the Delta Max battery, use that but if I was starting from scratch, I'd stick with the D2 battery since it's also LFP. I assume they will upgrade the Max to LFP soon so if you really need more capacity, wait for that. As far as output is concerned, adding extra batteries only increases the runtime, it doesn't make the AC or DC output stronger.
Todd another excellent well polished graphics and camera work review and the comparison with other manufactures is a nice touch at the end. I am in the market soon for a 1KW or 1.5KW unit with a LFP battery and right now EcoFlow own's' this 1KW market. This unit is not perfect and the noisy fans seem to be an issues with other reviews as well but it has good power and big inverter for a great price. The CES is coming up in January of 2023 so we will all have to see what's coming up for next year !
Glad you liked the video. I think this is a great option for what you described but it can’t hurt to wait 2 weeks to see what happens at CES. I’ll be there covering the event, stay tuned!
Glad to come across your review with a comparison against the Anker 757 which I'm returning in favour of the Delta 2 with the add on battery. Your reference to the reduction in fan speed at lower charging has held me off from cancelling the ecoflow order. It will be charged at less than 200 watts on solar everyday. My only concern is I live in the UK where sun limited in winter. I'd love to know now this is lifep04 will it allow the unit to be connected to the panels on xt60 and switch off at dusk when zero wattage being received, and start charging again (without manual intervention) as soon as daybreak feeds it a couple of watts , 10 watts 30 watts and won't block it like the Anker 757 does. (Xt60 needs disconnecting and the display button to be pressed, to kick it off into charging on solar again ) I need to be assured no manual intervention would be required on the ecoflow. But app access intervention would be fine... any thoughts appreciated...
So you want me to confirm that the solar will start charging in the morning unattended? I think that’s going to work, no problem
I've been waiting for the Delta2 to arrive for 3 weeks.
I hope she comes soon.😩
Fingers crossed, must be on the slow boat from China
I have a question. I have the older 1260wh version. I wanted to use it as a ups leaving it plugged in all the time to home 120 outlet. Because of the pass through power the unit uses your home power when plugged in. Sometimes the unit I had plugged into the ecoflow is not drawing any power, when this happens the ecoflow was over charging the battery and getting warm. The battery percent would drop to 95 and the cooling fans would run with the unit getting very warm. Has this issue been addressed with the newer unit?
I haven't seen that happen in my tests so I think it's resolved. I believe the older Delta didn't have a UPS feature at all so I can see it not working well in this scenario. It's a big upgrade!
As usual geat Video Todd! Just a question for you, what about the pure sine wave ? Did you had the chance to check if it is truly effective ?
I don’t have a meter for that but Hobotech and Jasoniod confirmed it’s clean
I don’t have a meter for that but Hobotech and Jasoniod confirmed it’s clean
Bonjour le câble de de la batterie secondaire et il fournit ?merci beaucoup
Yes they include it with the extra battery
Thanks Todd for the review. Do you think this could power a front load standard European style washing machine maybe at 30° for a cycle? I saw another guy from the UK on UA-cam do it with the deltamax and it used about 15% of the battery - but I’m wondering whether this one could do it with or without the extra battery. What do you think?
I just looked it up and it seems that running a load on cold uses about 500w and on hot 2000w so there’s a big range based on temp. The inverter can output 1,800 continuous and up to 2,300w for about a minute so I think this would work. Worst case, if you run it for a full hour on hot it would need the extra battery but I’m guessing the power use varies a lot over time so it’s not 2000w continuous.
@@todd.parker What a detailed answer and fast answer! Thank you so much. Many do reviews on these type of devices but always neglect to mention a washing machine - which is a common appliance.
Yeah, I should add that to my tests!
with the app, can you:
- Tell it to charge when it goes below 80% AND time is between say 02:00 and 05:00 (we have variable electricity cost, can be a factor of 3x between night and day)
Answer is NO. You can only set percentages unfortunately. Have to put a ‘clock switch’ in front to limit charging to 00:00 - 05:00 hours - but then - if it goes to zero % at 21:00 - I have no power until midnight. Room for an improvement in the firmware.
Had a few AC cut off’s when using XBoost and pulling 2100 W - especially if charging at the same time. Reducing load on my Airfryer - by going from 200 to 190 degrees C lowered consumption to 1900 W - and I was able to complete the cooking (12 minutes). Added a second battery for increased storage
Very professional review!!..... My question is, Is there any solar charging on either of the batteries alone? I know there's charging on the inverter / battery unit, but does either of the batteries have a solar charging port on the battery itself? Thanks!!!
Unfortunately, no. The batteries don’t have any inputs or outputs and can only be used through the main unit and it’s proprietary cable. Bluetti and Veryeah have batteries that are more useful standalone
excellent review,you forget about one CON,single one cigerate Dc output limited to 12v/10ah
is better and good to have 2 dc output 12v/25ah and 12v/10ah which enable to run high Dc appliances like Dc fridge,Dc fans,DC TV,DC Bulbs etc
At least oft still has two dc 2521 ports, although rated at 3amps,I plugged in my diesel heater, which pulls 105 watts on start-up. It's never failed, but it does bounce all around from 12 watts to145 watts. Maybe it's designed that way.
Can one couple two of these for 240v output?
No, you’d need to upgrade to a Delta Pro to do that
Does the solar panel option have the cable needed to charge the Delta 2?
The solar cable comes packed with every Ecoflow panel
Can I connect delta 2 to another delta 2 instead of delta 2 expansion battery ?
I don’t think that’s recommended, no. Yes you can physically attach them but I don’t think it will know what to do
Amazing video!!! I am from Greece we have plenty of sunny days and i am very close to buy ecoflow delta 2 for "exclusive solar charging", could i use a 550wat solar panel in order to get close to delta 2 max Solar Charging power? also is ecoflow gonna release delta "2" max batteries (2kw) with 3000+ cycles instead of delta max with 800+ cycles?
You’ll probably want to wire a few panels up to hit the max (11-60V, 15A, 500W max) but it depends on what kind of panels you want. I’m sure a LFP Delta Max is coming very soon so there will be a battery for you
Fantastic Review! I'd get this if only the AC outlets were in the front as they are with the Delta Pro. I plan on getting the Delta Pro and two extra Batteries side by side on a shelf. Front access to power ports is easier for my intended configuration. I have a question: when charging the Delta 2 and if you have the extra battery attached, does it charge the extra battery from the Delta 2 at the same time or only when the Delta 2 has reached capacity? And how long is the Solar Power Cable connector (if you know)
Thanks! It will charge both batteries at the same time, usually 50/50
Cable is 42” I believe. I mention it in the video
@@todd.parker thanks, I must of missed that part! Always good to get information from those that review the hardware rather than be surprised after purchasing it!!
Could this be hooked up to a transfer box or a single pole transfer box to power essentionls in the home during a power grid loss? Let's say I wanted to keep the furnace going, a freezer and a fridge and maybe one circuit for a light, modem and computer. (Yes, I plan on getting the extra battery also). The furnace obviously cycles in about 10 minute intervals so it is not running all the time. with that configuration how many hours do you think I could get in an emergency. Where I live, furnace is high priority (North Dakota). Are there videos on how to achive this with a transfer box? Thanks. Very nice review.
Absolutely, it’s perfect for that. I have a few videos on the Goal Zero 120v transfer panels I have. Reliance makes a bunch. Runtime is hard to say, use a watt meter to calculate the load
@@todd.parker Where I can I find that transfer box in stock? The Goal Zero 15 amp 120v...it is out of stock on their site and naturally it has to be UL approved on nobody will install it for me. Thank...I just ordered the Delta 2 and a backup battery!
@@daddylogan Reliance makes the GZ unit so you can just buy one directly: www.reliancecontrols.com/products?category=pro-tran-2-manual-transfer-switches-3&page=1
How do the Delta 2 handle it if the power station is on 50% battery when I plug in the extra battery? Will it run from external battery until it is on 50% too, and then drain both simultaneously? Will it run down both until the power station is on 0% and then external alone? waht happens?
Great question. I'm curious too
Wonder what happen to Goal Zero, arguably the original solar generator brand. Seems like they’re not concerned at all to stay current and relying on brand recognition
Yeah, it so strange that they were way ahead then just stopped innovating. Too bad, I like them but unless they make huge changes, they are toast
So how do you change the internal, battery out? When it's life is over? I mean after 10 years. The inverter and charge controller can still be good. Can't imagine throwing the whole thing in the trash can.
I don't think the batteries are replaceable but they have a 10+ year lifespan
Very nice review! I think one thing that was not mentioned is how it performs as a UPS. Did you check that? If so, I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts, please!
I tested it and it worked as expected. It’s not a true UPS because there is a brief flash when it switches over. Takes 30ms. Some PCs wood be ok, others would shut down
@@todd.parker thank you for the reply!
The Delta 2 is probably the best of the best since it only takes 80 minutes just to fully charge it.
But it’s not because it’s efficiency issues make it have less capacity than the dang mini lol dumb
Good video 👍🏼 Is the Delta Pro the only unit that has EV charging?
I believe so, yes
Can’t decide on the Delta 2 extra battery or Delta Max
If you want to buy now, I'd go Delta 2 because of the LFP battery. If you can wait a few months, I'm sure there will be a Delta 2 Max coming out that will be LFP since it's the last one in the lineup using NCM.
Loving my delta 2. Only thing I’ve been hearing from other utubers is ups power backup of 30 milliseconds is too slow and may damage some sensitive equipment.?
I doubt it would damage anything but it just means that if you were running a desktop computer it might cause it to shut off and restart rather than staying on because there is too much of a gap. Even that depends on your computer, some can keep running to cover the 30ms. For other things like your internet router, worst case is it restarts when it switches over
Hi!
Is the ecoflow max batterie, LFE chemistry?
The Delta 2 (reviewed here) and Pro are LFP, as well as the new River 2 line. The Delta Max is still NCM but you can probably see the writing on the wall...
Nice review. Are the settings for ac charge rate sticky, or do you need to connect to the app each time you charge to set a lower charge rate??
It remembers the setting so it’s sticky
thanks for the quick reply Todd. One more question: they spec the solar feed as 60v, 15A...... That's 900w, not 500. Will the unit accept 900 wo damage and use 500? Or do we need to do the math and not exceed 500 for fear of damaging the solar input circuit? Thanks for your help!
@@Hikebike365 good question, that’s…interesting. Maybe they give you that much range for flexibility but cap it at 500w total which is nice because usually there is no way to hit the max unless you have the perfect panel specs. Here, you can use higher voltage panels and it will cap the amps or vice versa. Just don’t exceed the max voltage and you’re good
@@Hikebike365 It seems as though, 35 volts&15is the sweet spot. Higher voltage, it begins to drop amps in the charge controller.
Excellent video Todd, I’d like to point out that the Delta Max 2kWh battery is NMC, not LPF
Yep, though hopefully we’ll have a LFP Delta 2 Max soon!
@@todd.parker my Delta 2 is awesome, simply awesome.
great review ---promo code not valid on Amazon?
Hmmm, maybe not? Should fine on the EF site though
I wish the extra battery has it own solar charging port. Hate to carry the delta 2 and battery outside to do solar charging.
Agreed
Delta 2 is good,but Vigorpool Captain 1200 is best.Very fast UPS real etc.
Pls advise which one better to take :
Delta 2 with extra battery or Delta Max 2000?
Right now, I’d go for the Delta 2 + battery because it has a LFP battery and is newer. Guessing the Max will be updated very soon
Right now, I’d go for the Delta 2 + battery because it has a LFP battery and is newer. Guessing the Max will be updated very soon
Why at 100 percent charge on both batteries, when using my air fryer for 4 minutes 5 times I'm down from 100 percent charge on both batteries to 50 percent on the main battery and 57 percent on the extra battery. Im surprised and disappointed this unit uses so much power so quickly. This wouldnt keep me going in a power outage for more that 40 minutes total. That's connecting just one appliance that's 1500 W. Am I doing something wrong?
That doesn’t seem right. How much power is it pulling?
I have been TRYING to talk myself out of buying the D2 and the DMax Extra battery. The opposite has happened: i find vids like this that confirm that this unit is the best in class. My fear now is that EF will introduce s newer version or offer an even better price right after I buy the units. I am suffering from paralysis by analysis?
I want the DMax battery even with NCM chem. I figure it will get to 80% capacity faster, but since it has twice the capacity, its life time output will surpass that of a D2 extra battery. My concern prior to ordering is that the D2 is 120v output, the DMAX spec states the battery is 110v. Not sure what affect that will have, I AssU_Me that would lower the main unit (D2) to 110v.
I think Ecoflow is moving to LFP with good/better/best lineups for small (River) and large (Delta) so the D2 will remain the same for a while. I expect a LFP Delta Max soon since it’s now the only NCM unit in the Delta lineup (not sure what is happening with the Delta mini)
Is the Delta 2 extra battery compatible with Delta Max????😅
I don’t think so. They can connect but it may void your warranty
Can the old extra battery from the ecoflow river 1 be used on the new delta 2?
No that I'm aware of since each uses proprietary plugs that are different. Unless you're referring to the kickstarter version that has battery terminals?
@@todd.parker ecoflow pro 720wh battery looks like it has the same terminals...
Why the external battery is without a DC-input is beyond me. Would have been so nice to have a few of these battery's connected to a DC-source waiting for when the grid goes down.
I agree, that seems to be how other companies are doing external batteries so hopefully next generation…
@@todd.parker A clickon module that allows on to directly charge the external battery might be an idea for Ecoflow. But not likely.
@@HansKeesom Zendure is doing a stackable connector so maybe someday
7:30 kW and kWh are *not* the same thing at all. i.e. the extra battery does *not* expand the total maximum power output it only expands the total storage capacity
Can you connect two Delta 2's and boost your power use...
No, there isn't a way to combine 2 units like you can with the pro. if you need a more powerful inverter, size up to the Max or Pro
@@todd.parker Thanks
@@todd.parker I'd prefere LiFePo ...
@@pip5461 me too. Hold tight, I’m sure that’s coming
60V 500W max solar charging was a deal breaker for me. Bigger battery and inverter helped to swallow the price pill.
I went with a Bluetti AC200P. its 150V 700W max solar input, closed the deal.
Hooking it up to 4x200W 12V Renogy panels in series.
The extra Watts comes in handy with partial shading and cloudy days, and wasted in full Sun.
Yeah, for a unit this size, it's a reasonable spec but with the extra battery, it starts to be closer to the AC200P size category and that has a much better solar charger. Sort of depends on if you want a portable, modular system or a more powerful but harder to move unit. I like the 200P but it's heavy!
@@todd.parker Agreed.
wow. what a fantastically well produced and very helpful review.
Really appreciated.
In the market so a real help to me 😘
Glad it was helpful!
Delta 2 was my number one option because of the expansion options. But in reality the expansion is useless if you are limited to the 500W charging. They may say 500W but you can't get that. The most you can get is two 220W panels. So with only 440W, if you have two expansion batteries, is completely unrealistic to rely solely on solar to charge. It would take way too long. I am looking at these for a grid down situation and camping. The only way the expansion batteries work, is if you can charge them fast at home. Relying solely on solar won't work for keeping them fully charge each day. That is hugely disappointing.
Yeah, I can see that. A lot of companies are offering expansion batteries like that that can only be charged through the main unit and the solar input is only fast enough for the main unit. That said, you should be able to recharge a D2 + 1kw extra battery in a solid day of sun. A 2kw pack or second battery, no way.
BTW is the Delta Max extra battery chargeable on the Delta 2 now?
Still no official word on that
@@todd.parker wow, they are listing the Max extra battery on their website as compatible. That’s unfortunate
If it’s listed as compatible then it is. When I was testing, it worked but the charging seemed to need refinement because it didn’t slow down for the last 80-90% which is typical. I haven’t re-tested it but can soon
@@todd.parker ohhh ok, I thought you owned them both
Actually, sorry I was a bit confused there. This combo worked fine in my testing. I was thinking about charging the Delta 2 with smart generator for some reason.
Can delta 2 extra battery work with ecoflow delta max?
Unfortunately, no
@@todd.parker so delta 2 can take delta max extra battery but the reverse isn't feasible? So modularity only works one way... that sucks.
@@LJLion That’s my i understanding and I could be wrong but I heard that the Max needs to be able to pull more amps than the D2 battery can handle so the throughput wouldn’t work. They can be mixed because each has a BMS so it’s possible they could make it work somehow in a firmware update
@@LJLion I like one piece power station with high wats and not 3 pieces .Preference. Good review
Just received mine & paperwork says 24 month warranty 🤔
It's 5 years. I called ecoflow and asked. It's just the same literature from the original Delta.
No worries!😎
@@fckjb284 except the battery % is weird, had it charging to lower & lower percentages. Ended up in the 20% range, advice from Ecoflow wasn’t helpful. Seems to be the battery management forgets where 1% is & causes the 100% to display lower & lower values over time. It’s a shame because I was thinking of buying another unit to increase the storage available.
It s good for laundry?
Depends on your equipment. This will power anything that plugs into a 15A 120V circuit. I know most dryers are 240v but washers should be fine
Thanks ! I live in Europe (220v 50hz)...Washers with 2200w works I think.
@@nicumarinoiu5358 European washers use heater elements. This toy will NOT be able to run it at all.
@@asdadasdasd4594 thanks!
@@asdadasdasd4594 that's correct however it would use less power if a cold wash is selected which seems to be default with HE machines these days when you power them on!
Wait, the Delta 2 is only 19.5AH?? I didn’t realize 1024wh is that low 😩😩😩
It’s a 51.2v battery so that makes sense
EPS is good for laptop not for desktop....
I wanted to like this but it’s only 76% of the battery capacity that it’s listed at due to a failure of efficiency. It’s literally the worst one they have made in terms of efficiency and is way below industry standard. The delta MINi actually has more capacity because it’s 91% efficient. Crazy. For $700 just no liPo I will wait and hope they fix this efficiency failure on a new model.
It's nice to be reassure of the great investment I made. Great video. Much love from Heidelberg, South Africa
Purchased this Black Friday special. Not refurbished. Delta 2 Generator, works well. The smart battery, well um.... Won't charge. By the way who at EcoFlow thought just ONE SINGLE charging method for an extra battery was wise??? Seriously, no solar, no AC, NO OTHER option to charge Smart battery other than connected directly to Delta 2 Generator. Called them twice, Emailed, kept telling me "Update the firmware, should work" Did that, TWICE, have video (posting on my channel today) Still wont charge. Smart Battery came with 30% charge I hooked it up to the Delta 2, feed it just fine, until drained. Now, absolutely NO WAY to recharge the "Smart" battery. I say Ecoflow was not very SMART on this execution. Have 2 other EcoFlow Generator units from March of this year, work just fine. Also own Jackery (meh) RockPals, Nature's Generators, none have a unit with just one SINGLE way to charge.
Very strange. Have you tried charging it via DC (solar or car)? Maybe it’s in an odd state.
@@todd.parker Todd, that's my point sir. There is NO DC, no Solar, NO CAR, check out the Delta2 Smart battery. It was ONE plug connection and can only be charged by the Delta 2 Generator. That's it. Color me confused
I would be dancing if they had another port on the Smart Battery, am not an engineer but you would think at least 2 options to charge would be SOP
@@anthonythomas6977 gotcha. I thought you were saying the main unit wasn’t going along a charge. I agree that the extra battery should have a DC input and DC output (12v + USB-C) so it can be used independently. Bluetti does that on their bigger batteries and it’s great
@@todd.parker EcoFlow determined Delta 2 Smart battery is defective return to be refurbished. I informed them they either provide refurbished pricing discount or send a new one. It happens but very disappointing as these are not $99.99 items> Also notice they have quite a few Refurbished items for sale, just saying. QC needs to up their game
Pity about appalling customer service from both overseas PR and EU website. PayPal dispute filed
That's no good, sorry. I've had very good luck with Ecoflow's support in the past. Is this a problem with an order you placed or something defective with the product once it arrived?
@@todd.parker it's all over paying full price and no 5 % discount code which left a bad taste but the charge for a £70 case and not receiving the free one. The complete arrogance of saying one thing and failing to follow through with a refund and now the total blanking of emails which have been polite. If this is how they behave with customer service, It concerns me that any warranty support I may need on a package I paid nearly £2k for, will be non existent.
Could someone explain, why it is "impressive" to get 830 Wh out of an 1024 Wh battery capacity? To me it would seem like they are lying about the real content of the battery. Almost a difference of 20% to what they claim.
They aren't lying - the actual battery cells are 1,024 but to use them you need to convert that the 48v DC cell pack voltage to 12v or 5V (USB) or 120v AC - all of those have conversion losses (heat) so this test tells us how efficient it is at this job. 20% losses is typical so that's our baseline for judging these. When you put gas into a car, the gas has a specific amount of energy stored but each car will give you different miles per gallon (MPG) because some of that energy is converted into waste heat. Same idea.
@@todd.parker Wouldn't it be fair then, on a consumer perspective to state the real Watt hours, or store more cells so you get a practical 1 kWh out of it. A normal first time buyer would expect, for instance an appliance that constantly drains an output of 100W to be powered for 10 hours, not 8 hours. Feels like a sale lie to me, like selling a can of beans and just stating the total weight including the can and water, not telling the nett bean weight when drained..
Thank you for replying to my comment btw.
@@dino1604 I totally agree that the way these are marketed across all companies leads to disappointment because you lose around 20% off the top of you run the battery down in 5 hours. If you’re running smaller loads for longer, losses actually increase because there is idle power draw. It’s a bit nuanced to explain to a consumer but it makes it confusing overall.
@@todd.parker To touch on the smaller loads for longer aspect:
I saw a video testing the EPS on the new delta 2, and I saw that it was pulling in 50w while outputting 40 W. The 10W difference for the invertor/unit itself, I found very large. It would be kind of neglectable if you would use powertools and run the whole battery in like 2 hours or so (just losing 20 watts of the total of the potential 1024 to just the unit itself) but I find it a shame if you would have a low powerdraw situation of 50 watts with the unit using 10 watts (at 80watts even more because the fans kick in), and thus being a relative 20% of your consumption and thereby losing your potential of drawing 50watts for 20 hours and now the realistic picture being 50+10 for 16ish hours. Comes close to your tested 83%.
It's the most expensive paperweight I've purchased, DOA on arrival (won't charge and won't power anything) and EcoFlow's support will not respond. Do yourself a favor and buy another brand.
super expensive
Delta 1 was 1250w of power Delta 2 200w less and they tell you buy a extra battery to have 2000w its better that 1250w in delta 1 xD