Such a great video . May our Heavenly Father and our savior Jesus keep using you Michael as a Chanel to preach this truth to so many from our church who is deceived 😢
You are not alone my friend. I stumbled into the sda church, drunk one Friday night in 1981. I spent the next 10 years studying my head off, wondering why these people who literally have EVERYTHING, are so completely apathetic about it. I've tried and tried and tried to figure this out, to encourage people to study and get excited, to no avail. Even my Home Church group is sound asleep. I stepped out of the church 10 years ago and just started going again. I know I cannot bow down though to what they are calling "God"...... tomorrow I have a group of about 15 people, coming to Home Church. They are hungry to know about the True Sonship of Christ. They will be watching two of your videos tomorrow. I'm so glad you are doing what God has called you to. He's coming so soon, and NOTHING will stop Him. We can be ready, or not. Blessings-
@@patrickstevenson4124 The small home church/group that I go to includes activities such as Bible study & discussion, reading the Great Controversy page by page, prayer, singing, potluck meals and supporting similar One True God ministries.
It is ALWAYS A DELIGHT to listen to your well structured approach to your presentation of Bible TRUTH. Even though it is a year old I just stumbled on it last night and once again I thank GOD and HIS SON for your ministry. I pray, GOD'S BLESSINGS on you.
I have been a 7th-day Adventist all my life (at least when I was not in out and out rebellion). I was angry, at 1st when the debate was on the rise, but I was taught from childhood not to be afraid of investigating anything, in light of the Bible. So, imagine my shock when I found that things I had been taught were not truth. I love the pioneers and all that God has given us, as a people, through their study...not to mention, through the prophet.
What a superb expose of true historical Adventism. Beautifully explained. Come what may. My spouse and I will stand on the fundamental principles through God's grace. Thank you! And many prayers will be going up for you and your ministry.
Wow. I don’t feel alone. I adopted the historic principles last year. This year has been awesome as finding teachings on the apostasy of the church. Each teaching I have watched has revealed new info on this topic. I praise Yah for his revealing of this message. Thank you brother.
I read the "broken blueprint" and cried. It talks about how we as a SDA movement went from ephesus (On fire for God )to laodicea (lukewarm and indifferent) in many aspects and encouraged us to fast and pray for as well as admonish each other to return to our first love
I grew up in this church and I had always questioned in my mind why some people believed in the trinity. In that time where a few and I would not hear to much mention of it. But now a day is too much and is worsening more and more. I must admit that I never bothered to investigate about it. But now since March 2020 while being treated in the hospital from COVID 19, I resolved to do a research and since then it's been a blessing after watching Daniel Mesa, brother Vasco, SDAPress, and now your ministry. You, guys are a blessing! May God continues to bless you all, including those watching. Pray for me as I share this truth to others.
I am persuaded that this is true. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work. My prayer is that many souls may be persuaded to the Biblical, saving truth.
Loved part 2 also learned so many things about the history that I didn’t know but give me encouragement about believing the fundamental principles of the first 50 years of Seventh-day Adventism.
"In the judgment men will not be condemned because they conscientiously believed a lie, but because they did not believe the truth, because they neglected the opportunity of learning what is truth... Whatever contradicts God's word, we may be sure proceeds from Satan." Pp.55.2
True statement. Thank you! I share your experience and testimony on your part 1 presentation. Thank you for the Truth articulated in the form presentation.
I want to confirm as a lay person. I agree with your assessment completely. My grandparents said this was occurring, sneaking into the church in the late 1970's early 1980's many years prior to my even becoming a Seventh-day Adventist. I also know that Ellen White admonishes us, this is God's true church and to remain in God's true church, just as they threw the goods and tackle overboard from Crete to Malta. This ship is coming in safely to the shores of heaven for those who rightly believe. I also agree this is an important teaching of doctrine which must be shared with the brethren. Keep the faith, finish the race, good and faithful servant. "I know in whom I have believed." Ellen G. White's last words. Most of all thank you for confirming what I already knew to be true. We cannot believe anything that is of Rome's pagan beliefs. The ideologies are as far from, as the east is from the west. God's truth and error cannot combine. Excellent research, well done.
Thanks for putting a clear historical layout of the Kellogg problem. All the documents are out there. Thanks for putting it in the timeline so that history can be seen correctly.
Thank you, I really enjoyed your presentation for a greater understanding of pioneer adventism truths vs. the change present day conference-based church has embraced.
Thankyou and God Bless you for putting forward a very comprehensive understanding of the GodHead which I totally agree with! We must know who we SERVE!! Amen 🙏🏼
I have been SDA for longer than you and even I haven’t heard these warnings myself. However thank God trinity sermons I NEVER understood. Thank you for your video
Thank you, for sharing this information, because it has helped me to hold to the Word I God and Sister E G White's writing because she is indeed a true prophet for our dispensation. I have newly accepted the Three Angels Message, and now it seems as though there is no more emphasis or priority to the Three Angeles Mesage.
THANK YOU for these videos, I have been praying for a better understanding of the Holy Spirit and then i stumble on these videos, I want to study it more for myself but what you are saying makes more sense then what I have been taught. I have been a member of this movement for four years now and I can relate with you, many disappointments. but i still believe this is Gods Remnant Church
I am a 4th generation Adventist. And I’ve never been comfortable with the trinity or understood it.. or rather didn’t feel it was explained correctly .. as I was ready John 14 there’s was light to me and I understood that Jesus was the Holy Spirit .. since then God has been leading me to look for more..and you have been very helpful ..although as you have discovered this is Gods church.. it is men that have misunderstood or corrupted. But we must stand firm.. there will only 2 two groups at the end and those that seek the truth will find it with the help of the Holy Spirit .. don’t get discourage. God has been leading you from church to church to bring you to a fullness of truth.. let’s not bring down to entire church, because there’s many of us that continue to look for the fullness of light God has for us.. everyone is in different levels in there walk with Christ.. let us not give up on them or speak badly of them. God is the only judge.. and he hasn’t giving on any of us yet. There’s still time. Sister White is clear that although SDA has this wonderful truth most Adventist will probably go out..but many will come in..let’s continue to preach the true gospel and 3rd angels message.. God bless. Thank you thank you for all the information you have gathered. .. I’ve only seen the first. Starting to see the second. But thank you. In sure it will also be a blessing. Let’s continue to pray for Gods remnant church.🙏
Thank you so much for a clear, Biblical presentation, and historic context with EGW quotes! I've been in the church my whole life. Recently, I fasted specifically for a strengthening of my relationship with Jesus. About ten days later someone asked me if a person on UA-cam was anti-trinitarian. I said I didn't know and didn't know what that term meant. I thought I'd find something blasphemous in my research. Turns out I did but not what I expected to find. The first video that came up was from Nader Mansour and the connection of Babylon and the Trinity and realized he was Adventist! Of all videos to watch first suggested by UA-cam, it was his. I've listened to SDA press, Seventh day church of revelation, and a few others. They've all been very helpful. The Sonship of Christ I always believed also that the holy Spirit was Jesus' spirit. But, I used the term Trinity because I thought it was because there were three, as in heavenly trio. After hearing what the Trinity was really about I realized I was always non trinitarian in my belief, however, this is still dangerous because the term Trinity is normalized. If we don't know what the words mean we shouldn't use them. What I've been absorbing the last few days is the deception that is coming from the administrative arm of the SDA Church, pollution and deception in the magazines and other printed books. I've always preferred to read my Bible over the quarterly and had no idea the fundamental beliefs were changed!!! I've never heard an announcement in church letting us know about these updates - I'm 47! However, as you so kindly reviewed, this was all prophesied and God will reveal truths when we seek him with our whole heart. I'm so thankful that God has given us mercy and extending time for us to learn about Him and his son Jesus Christ. I've shared this with my mom. It's very difficult to get out of the misconceptions of the anti-trinitarian movement. I'm praying for her and my family. I'm appreciative of your statement that we are going back to the real SDA faith that is founded on the Bible. Also, I did extensive research on spiritual formation over a decade ago, however, the Trinity didn't come up anywhere!!! How is that possible? So even the deception isn't being fully uncovered, just focusing on pantheism, and of course people will say they don't believe that. Thank you so very much for a wonderful presentation, it summarized everything so beautifully of the research I've done in the last three weeks. May the Lord richly bless you, looking forward to watching your videos! 🙏🙏🙏
What is the will of our God, our heavenly Father ? John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
The Father’s presence encircled Christ, and nothing befell Him but that which infinite love permitted for the blessing of the world. Here was His source of comfort, and it is for us. He who is imbued with *the Spirit of Christ* abides in Christ. The blow that is aimed at him falls upon the Saviour, who surrounds him with His presence. Whatever comes to him comes from Christ. He has no need to resist evil, for Christ is his defense. Nothing can touch him except by our Lord’s permission, and “all things” that are permitted “work together for good to them that love God.” Romans 8:28. *-MB 71.2*
@ minute 44 Kellogg states, 'is the holy Spirit a person?' And he is correct! Since EGW says the same. BUT. It is NOT a different/ separate person. RATHER. He is the very SAME person. As EGW says, and only says, there are 2 beings ...The Father and the Son.
I am totally impressed with your ability to clearly present the danger in visualizing the Holy Spirit as a third person(with whom I can NOT identify) versus an other form of Jesus with whom I CAN identify.
IN THE PARRAGRAPH USED HERE FROM GREAT CONTROVERSY PAGE 538 THE PAGE IS 583 SECOND PARAGRAPH IN THE MIDDLE 👍 VERY HAPPY WITH ALL OF THE EFFORT PUT FORTH BY MICHAEL..thank you very much We are learning and passing these jewels .blessings brother
I also went through the same path as you and had the same fear of being deceived again. I’d read my bible and wouldn’t sing any hymns that referred to the Trinity. I felt very uncomfortable and it was a no go zone. I mentioned it to a good friend of mine , who is a retired SDA pastor. He also agreed with me . What a surprise that was! But where do I go? What hymns do I sing? Who do I fellowship with? I find most people don’t question as I do. I don’t understand why they can’t see it. I wonder if they even read their bible. Feeling rather alone not being able to discuss this.
14MR pg 179 "Not essential for you to know and be able to define just what the Holy Spirit is" even though in this quote she declares the omnipresence of Christ to be the Comforter.
WHO KNOCKS AT THE DOOR? Who’s voice should we be hearing? My sheep know my voice says the Lord. The scary thing is, many are begging and praying to hear another’s voice. They are attempting to enter in by another door, they are thieves and robbers. Robbing the Son of God of what he himself has bought with the price of his life. Like the church of Jesus time, we are rejecting the Son of God all over again, by rejecting His spirit ... the second covenant. Christ in us the hope of glory. We are the body of Christ alone, not another’s. We are the bride of Christ, not another’s. We are the temple of God. If we truly believe in a trinity, then we believe that Christ is co eternal and co equal, then we believe that we will sit as God on His throne as well. This is truly the spirit of Antichrist! The truth is, the Bible tells us there is an order... God the father, the Son of God(Jesus), man, then woman. The trinity does not teach us this truth. We may sit down with Him in His throne, but We will also know our place, and be forever grateful, and worship Him. Jesus is the rock from the mountain. All things were created through Him and by Him, and for Him. Jesus is lifted up on high. He will forever be worshiped. He is truly the Son of God. The spirit of God was in Jesus reconciling us to himself. Jesus said, it is not my Works, but the father in me who doeth the works. The spirit of God the Father in Christ... God with us. Laodiceans, please read who is knocking, and who’s voice we should be praying to hear. God help us all Revelation 3:14-22 KJV [14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; [15] I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. [17] Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: [18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. [20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. [21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. [22] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Sooooo blessed by the ministry of this man of God! I notice at time stamp 35:20 that he is saying that all the leaders believed the truth about God into the 1890s, but I’m sure I’ve also seen quotes from the early 1900s where the prophet talks about unanimity for the last 50 years. That only goes back to the 1850s. And the crisis was coming when she wrote in the early 1900s. Can someone explain this? I’m missing something here.
Is to bad he missed on the screen on 14.25. to comment on this statement.... GC. 583.1 In rejecting the truth, men reject its Author. In trampling upon the law of God, they deny the authority of the Law-giver. It is as easy to make an idol of false doctrines and theories as to fashion an idol of wood or stone. By misrepresenting the attributes of God, Satan leads men to conceive of Him in a false character.
I WILL NOT WORSHIP GODS OF MENS PHILOSOPHIES ANY MORE BUT WILL WORSHIP THE ONE TRUE GOD JEHOVAH AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON AMEN AMEN AMEN ..I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT HALLELLUJAH...PRAISE BE THE LORD FIR EVER AND EVER ..
Really great stretch there about confusing all roles, Yes we can't confuse the roles of God and His Son, but probably not responsible for all of our role confusion.
I am a bit confused... at time stamp: 15:15 there is a quote from "The Great Controversy", page 538... when I went to look it up, in the book that I acquired from: "Judgment Hour", I see that it only has up to page 506... what printing are you using...
Omnipresent is being able to be in more then one place at a time. Christ spirit is able to be everywhere and in everyone that excepts him as their Lord and Savior. Christ in humanity is not able to do that.
I don’t believe in a trinity either! I believe in God the Father, the ancient of days, Jesus the true begotten son of God, share their Spirit, their Holy Spirit Omnipresence. But no 3 persons! We are not to worship three beings either! There is only 2 beings! That is what I believe!
The work that needs to be undone, was written before Kelloggs book and is logically directed at other errors, not the Godhead in particular. Sometimes we go a little or a lot to far, if the glove doesn't fit we must acquit. No need to plant evidence, you have enough already.
But I am still puzzled with the concept of visualizing God as being two individual persons before Jesus becoming human and after Jesus returning back to heaven. I can easily visualize and accept the Holy Spirit as being an attribute of Jesus after His resurrection. And I can easily visualize the Spirit of God (hovering over the waters that was the actual tool God used for building this planet into a habitable orb) as being an attribute of Jesus. But I am still having difficulty visualizing Duality of God. It is a polytheistic concept, not monotheistic.
God is His own person: 1 person or being -- not 2 or 3 persons. Jesus is His own person: 1 person or being. But Jesus possesses 2 natures: Human and Divine. Very simple. The 1st commandment says: "Thou shalt have NO OTHER GODS before Me." If that commandment is true, then how can God be polytheistic? Jesus himself said in John 17:3, "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the ONLY true GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." If God the Father is polytheistic, why did Jesus call him "the ONLY true God?" God is monotheistic because Jesus said so and because God the Father ALONE is the source of EVERYTHING in the Universe. There is no other. And as Jesus said, if you want eternal life, you must believe that his Father is the one and only true monotheistic GOD of the Universe. It's a simple Truth, but it can have very serious consequences if we try to redefine GOD in our own human understanding. The Bible tells us to lean not on our own understanding. REMEMBER: If you look at God thru the prism of the 1st Commandment, everything else will fall into place scripturally. But if you look at God in terms of polytheism or trinitarianism, then everything else will fall apart scripturally, you'll come to the wrong conclusions on the identity of God and the consequences of that thinking will not be good.
I have an issue with your interpretation of "The Bible tells us to lean not on our own understanding". You are describing to me your comprehension of God's nature as you understand it from reading the Scriptures. My understanding from reading John 17:3 is that God sent Jesus the Mussiah. The question that I have in reading that verse, is that verse indicating that Jesus was sent as the Mesiah from a previous eternal existence in heaven or was Jesus sent as the Messiah in the similar manner to the way Isaiah volunteered to be sent, implying that Jesus did not exist prior to God impregnating Mary. In reference to our comprehension of God in the Old Testament that our word "God" represents two beings "the Father" and "the Son", then I am left with the impresion that such God is made pop up of two persons and therefore such believe would be categorized as polytheistic. Where do you see the flaw in my reasoning?
@@nevenante Both God the Father and Jesus are Divine and they are 2 distinct separate Divine beings. But like our family structure, there can be only 1 Father and Jesus is not the Father....He is the Son of the Father. God the Father is the Supreme Head of Christ and all the Universe. Jesus is the head of the church and/or the Kingdom of God. But He is second in command to His Father in authority. And who does Jesus worship? He worships the One True God specified in John 17:3. Who is the One True God? His Father. He is the Supreme God of the Universe and there is no higher authority than God the Father. And that's why Jesus and we worship Him. Question: Is it wrong or sinful to bow down and worship Jesus? Answer: Technically no, because Jesus said if you seen me, you've seen the Father. Jesus is inherently Divine as His Father is. But Jesus always pointed people to His Father. He said, "My Father is greater than I." So our allegiance and respect and honor and worship should always go to the Father according to John17:3. With respect to the pre-existence of Jesus, your first answer was correct: Jesus did exist prior to the creation of this world. He existed with His Father in eternity past even before the angels were created. He was a Divine Son from eternity before He became a human Son. But here's the thing: He was begotten or born from his Father from eternity past before anything else was created. Jesus confirms this fact by what he said in John 16:28: "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father.”
Wonderful presentation and I believe God’s holy spirit is directing you but why does he want to go to Historic SDA church? I know Jesus Christ attended church with the elders, Pharisees and the leaders of Israel until a point he realized that they had deliberately kicked him out of the church. Then him and his followers started worshiping God elsewhere. I believe it will happen again and very soon
Actually many SDA do not know what is the true Sabbath. Many have fallen for the deception of the lunar sabbath. They reject the pioneers once again. Not only pioneers, but also bible fore the bible plainly gives several points that refute the lunar sabbath. The fouth command being one of them. Six days ye shall work and the seventh is the sabbath of the Lord. This started the weekly cycle that has never been broken. In order for the lunar sabbath to work you have one sometimes two days that you do not count, therefore it breaks the seven day weekly cycle every month.
But whom say Ye that l am "disciples replied You are a son of living God'. Modern SDA church five foolish virgin are mistaken by teaching this theory trinity. Always God is one and jesus is a son.
Whether you believe in the trinity or not that does not determine if you are saved or not". Do not be deceived". Read and interpret the word of God as the word of God and not by the word of Ellen White".
Oh my why are you exposing this? We as catholic this is the only doctrine we can be united because we cannot penetrate you in Sabbath. Pls dont believe your prophet Ellen White because she's the only prophet in the world that says there are only 2 beings in Godhead. Only those anti-trinitarian doesn't unite with us! Your loving Catholic Christian friend.
I don’t believe in the first, second, third person of the Godhead! Those wordings are not taught in Bible , nor did Moses, or the prophets taught that! That is why I refuse to believe it! I only believe the Bible taught!
The Word of GOD is from our maker; stick with the bible. Religion is man made and subject to error. Look at the 10 commandments; who has the right to change Gods commandments; no one!!
I also went through the same path as you and had the same fear of being deceived again. I’d read my bible and wouldn’t sing any hymns that referred to the Trinity. I felt very uncomfortable and it was a no go zone. I mentioned it to a good friend of mine , who is a retired SDA pastor. He also agreed with me . What a surprise that was! But where do I go? What hymns do I sing? Who do I fellowship with? I find most people don’t question as I do. I don’t understand why they can’t see it. I wonder if they even read their bible. Feeling rather alone not being able to discuss this.
I also went through the same path as you and had the same fear of being deceived again. I’d read my bible and wouldn’t sing any hymns that referred to the Trinity. I felt very uncomfortable and it was a no go zone. I mentioned it to a good friend of mine , who is a retired SDA pastor. He also agreed with me . What a surprise that was! But where do I go? What hymns do I sing? Who do I fellowship with? I find most people don’t question as I do. I don’t understand why they can’t see it. I wonder if they even read their bible. Feeling rather alone not being able to discuss this.
Thank you for taking the time to share the Truth from the pioneers and the Holy Bible. Because the truth shall set us free
Such a great video . May our Heavenly Father and our savior Jesus keep using you Michael as a Chanel to preach this truth to so many from our church who is deceived 😢
Every person should know this truth🙏🙏
You are not alone my friend. I stumbled into the sda church, drunk one Friday night in 1981. I spent the next 10 years studying my head off, wondering why these people who literally have EVERYTHING, are so completely apathetic about it. I've tried and tried and tried to figure this out, to encourage people to study and get excited, to no avail. Even my Home Church group is sound asleep. I stepped out of the church 10 years ago and just started going again. I know I cannot bow down though to what they are calling "God"...... tomorrow I have a group of about 15 people, coming to Home Church. They are hungry to know about the True Sonship of Christ. They will be watching two of your videos tomorrow. I'm so glad you are doing what God has called you to. He's coming so soon, and NOTHING will stop Him. We can be ready, or not. Blessings-
Please share how you do your home church
@@patrickstevenson4124 The small home church/group that I go to includes activities such as Bible study & discussion, reading the Great Controversy page by page, prayer, singing, potluck meals and supporting similar One True God ministries.
It is ALWAYS A DELIGHT to listen to your well structured approach to your presentation of Bible TRUTH.
Even though it is a year old I just stumbled on it last night and once again I thank GOD and HIS SON for your ministry.
I pray, GOD'S BLESSINGS on you.
I have been a 7th-day Adventist all my life (at least when I was not in out and out rebellion). I was angry, at 1st when the debate was on the rise, but I was taught from childhood not to be afraid of investigating anything, in light of the Bible. So, imagine my shock when I found that things I had been taught were not truth. I love the pioneers and all that God has given us, as a people, through their study...not to mention, through the prophet.
What a superb expose of true historical Adventism. Beautifully explained.
Come what may. My spouse and I will stand on the fundamental principles through God's grace.
Thank you! And many prayers will be going up for you and your ministry.
Great job, Michael........looking forward to more of your videos of Truth. God Bless you and your Ministry.
Wow. I don’t feel alone. I adopted the historic principles last year. This year has been awesome as finding teachings on the apostasy of the church. Each teaching I have watched has revealed new info on this topic.
I praise Yah for his revealing of this message. Thank you brother.
I read the "broken blueprint" and cried. It talks about how we as a SDA movement went from ephesus (On fire for God )to laodicea (lukewarm and indifferent) in many aspects and encouraged us to fast and pray for as well as admonish each other to return to our first love
Is this a book?
I grew up in this church and I had always questioned in my mind why some people believed in the trinity. In that time where a few and I would not hear to much mention of it. But now a day is too much and is worsening more and more. I must admit that I never bothered to investigate about it. But now since March 2020 while being treated in the hospital from COVID 19, I resolved to do a research and since then it's been a blessing after watching Daniel Mesa, brother Vasco, SDAPress, and now your ministry. You, guys are a blessing! May God continues to bless you all, including those watching. Pray for me as I share this truth to others.
Thank you.....a powerful presentation.......beautifully done........hope this get the attention it deserves....Aloha
Truth will stand as the truth, Jesus will stand forever. Maranatha
I am persuaded that this is true. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work. My prayer is that many souls may be persuaded to the Biblical, saving truth.
Loved part 2 also learned so many things about the history that I didn’t know but give me encouragement about believing the fundamental principles of the first 50 years of Seventh-day Adventism.
EXCELLENT.. THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL. THANK YOU MY BROTHER..GOD BLESS.
"In the judgment men will not be condemned because they conscientiously believed a lie, but because they did not believe the truth, because they neglected the opportunity of learning what is truth... Whatever contradicts God's word, we may be sure proceeds from Satan." Pp.55.2
True statement. Thank you! I share your experience and testimony on your part 1 presentation. Thank you for the Truth articulated in the form presentation.
I throughly appreciate the Light that God has brought into your experience My Brother... Amen..!
I want to confirm as a lay person. I agree with your assessment completely. My grandparents said this was occurring, sneaking into the church in the late 1970's early 1980's many years prior to my even becoming a Seventh-day Adventist. I also know that Ellen White admonishes us, this is God's true church and to remain in God's true church, just as they threw the goods and tackle overboard from Crete to Malta. This ship is coming in safely to the shores of heaven for those who rightly believe. I also agree this is an important teaching of doctrine which must be shared with the brethren. Keep the faith, finish the race, good and faithful servant. "I know in whom I have believed." Ellen G. White's last words. Most of all thank you for confirming what I already knew to be true. We cannot believe anything that is of Rome's pagan beliefs. The ideologies are as far from, as the east is from the west. God's truth and error cannot combine. Excellent research, well done.
Thanks for putting a clear historical layout of the Kellogg problem. All the documents are out there. Thanks for putting it in the timeline so that history can be seen correctly.
I agree very well put it together God bless
Very well done brother.
Thank you, I really enjoyed your presentation for a greater understanding of pioneer adventism truths vs. the change present day conference-based church has embraced.
Thankyou and God Bless you for putting forward a very comprehensive understanding of the GodHead which I totally agree with! We must know who we SERVE!! Amen 🙏🏼
Excellent !!
I have been SDA for longer than you and even I haven’t heard these warnings myself. However thank God trinity sermons I NEVER understood. Thank you for your video
The history of ancient Israel and Judah has been, and is being repeated by the SDA organization. shalom.
Thank you, for sharing this information, because it has helped me to hold to the Word I God and Sister E G White's writing because she is indeed a true prophet for our dispensation. I have newly accepted the Three Angels Message, and now it seems as though there is no more emphasis or priority to the Three Angeles Mesage.
Preach it brother, preach it
THANK YOU for these videos, I have been praying for a better understanding of the Holy Spirit and then i stumble on these videos, I want to study it more for myself but what you are saying makes more sense then what I have been taught. I have been a member of this movement for four years now and I can relate with you, many disappointments. but i still believe this is Gods Remnant Church
Amen and amen!
I am a 4th generation Adventist. And I’ve never been comfortable with the trinity or understood it.. or rather didn’t feel it was explained correctly .. as I was ready John 14 there’s was light to me and I understood that Jesus was the Holy Spirit .. since then God has been leading me to look for more..and you have been very helpful ..although as you have discovered this is Gods church.. it is men that have misunderstood or corrupted. But we must stand firm.. there will only 2 two groups at the end and those that seek the truth will find it with the help of the Holy Spirit .. don’t get discourage. God has been leading you from church to church to bring you to a fullness of truth.. let’s not bring down to entire church, because there’s many of us that continue to look for the fullness of light God has for us.. everyone is in different levels in there walk with Christ.. let us not give up on them or speak badly of them. God is the only judge.. and he hasn’t giving on any of us yet. There’s still time. Sister White is clear that although SDA has this wonderful truth most Adventist will probably go out..but many will come in..let’s continue to preach the true gospel and 3rd angels message.. God bless. Thank you thank you for all the information you have gathered. .. I’ve only seen the first. Starting to see the second. But thank you. In sure it will also be a blessing. Let’s continue to pray for Gods remnant church.🙏
solid truth my brother...blessings
Thank you so much for a clear, Biblical presentation, and historic context with EGW quotes! I've been in the church my whole life. Recently, I fasted specifically for a strengthening of my relationship with Jesus. About ten days later someone asked me if a person on UA-cam was anti-trinitarian. I said I didn't know and didn't know what that term meant. I thought I'd find something blasphemous in my research. Turns out I did but not what I expected to find. The first video that came up was from Nader Mansour and the connection of Babylon and the Trinity and realized he was Adventist! Of all videos to watch first suggested by UA-cam, it was his. I've listened to SDA press, Seventh day church of revelation, and a few others. They've all been very helpful. The Sonship of Christ I always believed also that the holy Spirit was Jesus' spirit. But, I used the term Trinity because I thought it was because there were three, as in heavenly trio. After hearing what the Trinity was really about I realized I was always non trinitarian in my belief, however, this is still dangerous because the term Trinity is normalized. If we don't know what the words mean we shouldn't use them. What I've been absorbing the last few days is the deception that is coming from the administrative arm of the SDA Church, pollution and deception in the magazines and other printed books. I've always preferred to read my Bible over the quarterly and had no idea the fundamental beliefs were changed!!! I've never heard an announcement in church letting us know about these updates - I'm 47! However, as you so kindly reviewed, this was all prophesied and God will reveal truths when we seek him with our whole heart. I'm so thankful that God has given us mercy and extending time for us to learn about Him and his son Jesus Christ. I've shared this with my mom. It's very difficult to get out of the misconceptions of the anti-trinitarian movement. I'm praying for her and my family. I'm appreciative of your statement that we are going back to the real SDA faith that is founded on the Bible. Also, I did extensive research on spiritual formation over a decade ago, however, the Trinity didn't come up anywhere!!! How is that possible? So even the deception isn't being fully uncovered, just focusing on pantheism, and of course people will say they don't believe that. Thank you so very much for a wonderful presentation, it summarized everything so beautifully of the research I've done in the last three weeks. May the Lord richly bless you, looking forward to watching your videos! 🙏🙏🙏
What is the will of our God, our heavenly Father ?
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Amen
The Father’s presence encircled Christ, and nothing befell Him but that which infinite love permitted for the blessing of the world. Here was His source of comfort, and it is for us. He who is imbued with *the Spirit of Christ* abides in Christ. The blow that is aimed at him falls upon the Saviour, who surrounds him with His presence. Whatever comes to him comes from Christ. He has no need to resist evil, for Christ is his defense. Nothing can touch him except by our Lord’s permission, and “all things” that are permitted “work together for good to them that love God.” Romans 8:28.
*-MB 71.2*
@ minute 44 Kellogg states, 'is the holy Spirit a person?'
And he is correct! Since EGW says the same.
BUT.
It is NOT a different/ separate person.
RATHER.
He is the very SAME person. As EGW says, and only says, there are 2 beings ...The Father and the Son.
I am totally impressed with your ability to clearly present the danger in visualizing the Holy Spirit as a third person(with whom I can NOT identify) versus an other form of Jesus with whom I CAN identify.
I don't know your name however your doing a great job I really appreciate your content.
He is Michael McCaffrey of Judgment Hour Ministries...
IN THE PARRAGRAPH USED HERE FROM GREAT CONTROVERSY PAGE 538 THE PAGE IS 583 SECOND PARAGRAPH IN THE MIDDLE 👍 VERY HAPPY WITH ALL OF THE EFFORT PUT FORTH BY MICHAEL..thank you very much We are learning and passing these jewels .blessings brother
I also went through the same path as you and had the same fear of being deceived again. I’d read my bible and wouldn’t sing any hymns that referred to the Trinity. I felt very uncomfortable and it was a no go zone. I mentioned it to a good friend of mine , who is a retired SDA pastor. He also agreed with me . What a surprise that was!
But where do I go? What hymns do I sing?
Who do I fellowship with?
I find most people don’t question as I do. I don’t understand why they can’t see it. I wonder if they even read their bible. Feeling rather alone not being able to discuss this.
14MR pg 179 "Not essential for you to know and be able to define just what the Holy Spirit is" even though in this quote she declares the omnipresence of Christ to be the Comforter.
Great Presentation….I am one of the church banned to not teaching SS and preaching!
Thank You very much
WHO KNOCKS AT THE DOOR? Who’s voice should we be hearing? My sheep know my voice says the Lord. The scary thing is, many are begging and praying to hear another’s voice. They are attempting to enter in by another door, they are thieves and robbers. Robbing the Son of God of what he himself has bought with the price of his life. Like the church of Jesus time, we are rejecting the Son of God all over again, by rejecting His spirit ... the second covenant. Christ in us the hope of glory. We are the body of Christ alone, not another’s. We are the bride of Christ, not another’s. We are the temple of God. If we truly believe in a trinity, then we believe that Christ is co eternal and co equal, then we believe that we will sit as God on His throne as well. This is truly the spirit of Antichrist! The truth is, the Bible tells us there is an order... God the father, the Son of God(Jesus), man, then woman. The trinity does not teach us this truth. We may sit down with Him in His throne, but We will also know our place, and be forever grateful, and worship Him. Jesus is the rock from the mountain. All things were created through Him and by Him, and for Him. Jesus is lifted up on high. He will forever be worshiped. He is truly the Son of God. The spirit of God was in Jesus reconciling us to himself. Jesus said, it is not my Works, but the father in me who doeth the works. The spirit of God the Father in Christ... God with us. Laodiceans, please read who is knocking, and who’s voice we should be praying to hear. God help us all
Revelation 3:14-22 KJV
[14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; [15] I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. [17] Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: [18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. [20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. [21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. [22] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Sooooo blessed by the ministry of this man of God! I notice at time stamp 35:20 that he is saying that all the leaders believed the truth about God into the 1890s, but I’m sure I’ve also seen quotes from the early 1900s where the prophet talks about unanimity for the last 50 years. That only goes back to the 1850s. And the crisis was coming when she wrote in the early 1900s. Can someone explain this? I’m missing something here.
Is to bad he missed on the screen on 14.25. to comment on this statement.... GC. 583.1
In rejecting the truth, men reject its Author. In trampling upon the law of God, they deny the authority of the Law-giver. It is as easy to make an idol of false doctrines and theories as to fashion an idol of wood or stone. By misrepresenting the attributes of God, Satan leads men to conceive of Him in a false character.
I WILL NOT WORSHIP GODS OF MENS PHILOSOPHIES ANY MORE BUT WILL WORSHIP THE ONE TRUE GOD JEHOVAH AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON AMEN AMEN AMEN ..I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT HALLELLUJAH...PRAISE BE THE LORD FIR EVER AND EVER ..
To show Ted Wilson's Trinität's preachings are wrong, got the effect, I've been blocked from him!
Really great stretch there about confusing all roles, Yes we can't confuse the roles of God and His Son, but probably not responsible for all of our role confusion.
I am a bit confused... at time stamp: 15:15 there is a quote from "The Great Controversy", page 538... when I went to look it up, in the book that I acquired from: "Judgment Hour", I see that it only has up to page 506... what printing are you using...
Where can we get a copy of the original fundamental beliefs?
ua-cam.com/video/MaAFkxrvT2w/v-deo.html
What does it mean by the holy spirit is the omnipresence of God?? 6:12
Omnipresent is being able to be in more then one place at a time. Christ spirit is able to be everywhere and in everyone that excepts him as their Lord and Savior. Christ in humanity is not able to do that.
I detected an error in the “print out” of the message: It read “. Spiritual eyes,” instead of “spiritualized.”
I don’t believe in a trinity either! I believe in God the Father, the ancient of days, Jesus the true begotten son of God, share their Spirit, their Holy Spirit Omnipresence. But no 3 persons! We are not to worship three beings either! There is only 2 beings! That is what I believe!
Amen!
The work that needs to be undone, was written before Kelloggs book and is logically directed at other errors, not the Godhead in particular. Sometimes we go a little or a lot to far, if the glove doesn't fit we must acquit. No need to plant evidence, you have enough already.
Hi Michael, can you help me understand the difference between SDA and SDA Reform movement? ?
ua-cam.com/video/MaAFkxrvT2w/v-deo.html
But I am still puzzled with the concept of visualizing God as being two individual persons before Jesus becoming human and after Jesus returning back to heaven.
I can easily visualize and accept the Holy Spirit as being an attribute of Jesus after His resurrection. And I can easily visualize the Spirit of God (hovering over the waters that was the actual tool God used for building this planet into a habitable orb) as being an attribute of Jesus.
But I am still having difficulty visualizing Duality of God. It is a polytheistic concept, not monotheistic.
God is His own person: 1 person or being -- not 2 or 3 persons. Jesus is His own person: 1 person or being. But Jesus possesses 2 natures: Human and Divine. Very simple.
The 1st commandment says: "Thou shalt have NO OTHER GODS before Me." If that commandment is true, then how can God be polytheistic? Jesus himself said in John 17:3, "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the ONLY true GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." If God the Father is polytheistic, why did Jesus call him "the ONLY true God?" God is monotheistic because Jesus said so and because God the Father ALONE is the source of EVERYTHING in the Universe. There is no other. And as Jesus said, if you want eternal life, you must believe that his Father is the one and only true monotheistic GOD of the Universe. It's a simple Truth, but it can have very serious consequences if we try to redefine GOD in our own human understanding. The Bible tells us to lean not on our own understanding.
REMEMBER: If you look at God thru the prism of the 1st Commandment, everything else will fall into place scripturally. But if you look at God in terms of polytheism or trinitarianism, then everything else will fall apart scripturally, you'll come to the wrong conclusions on the identity of God and the consequences of that thinking will not be good.
I have an issue with your interpretation of "The Bible tells us to lean not on our own understanding". You are describing to me your comprehension of God's nature as you understand it from reading the Scriptures. My understanding from reading John 17:3 is that God sent Jesus the Mussiah. The question that I have in reading that verse, is that verse indicating that Jesus was sent as the Mesiah from a previous eternal existence in heaven or was Jesus sent as the Messiah in the similar manner to the way Isaiah volunteered to be sent, implying that Jesus did not exist prior to God impregnating Mary. In reference to our comprehension of God in the Old Testament that our word "God" represents two beings "the Father" and "the Son", then I am left with the impresion that such God is made pop up of two persons and therefore such believe would be categorized as polytheistic. Where do you see the flaw in my reasoning?
@@nevenante Both God the Father and Jesus are Divine and they are 2 distinct separate Divine beings. But like our family structure, there can be only 1 Father and Jesus is not the Father....He is the Son of the Father. God the Father is the Supreme Head of Christ and all the Universe. Jesus is the head of the church and/or the Kingdom of God. But He is second in command to His Father in authority.
And who does Jesus worship? He worships the One True God specified in John 17:3. Who is the One True God? His Father. He is the Supreme God of the Universe and there is no higher authority than God the Father. And that's why Jesus and we worship Him.
Question: Is it wrong or sinful to bow down and worship Jesus? Answer: Technically no, because Jesus said if you seen me, you've seen the Father. Jesus is inherently Divine as His Father is. But Jesus always pointed people to His Father. He said, "My Father is greater than I." So our allegiance and respect and honor and worship should always go to the Father according to John17:3.
With respect to the pre-existence of Jesus, your first answer was correct: Jesus did exist prior to the creation of this world. He existed with His Father in eternity past even before the angels were created. He was a Divine Son from eternity before He became a human Son. But here's the thing: He was begotten or born from his Father from eternity past before anything else was created. Jesus confirms this fact by what he said in John 16:28: "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father.”
Wonderful presentation and I believe God’s holy spirit is directing you but why does he want to go to Historic SDA church? I know Jesus Christ attended church with the elders, Pharisees and the leaders of Israel until a point he realized that they had deliberately kicked him out of the church. Then him and his followers started worshiping God elsewhere. I believe it will happen again and very soon
Actually many SDA do not know what is the true Sabbath. Many have fallen for the deception of the lunar sabbath. They reject the pioneers once again. Not only pioneers, but also bible fore the bible plainly gives several points that refute the lunar sabbath. The fouth command being one of them. Six days ye shall work and the seventh is the sabbath of the Lord. This started the weekly cycle that has never been broken. In order for the lunar sabbath to work you have one sometimes two days that you do not count, therefore it breaks the seven day weekly cycle every month.
But whom say Ye that l am "disciples replied You are a son of living God'.
Modern SDA church five foolish virgin are mistaken by teaching this theory trinity. Always God is one and jesus is a son.
Whether you believe in the trinity or not that does not determine if you are saved or not". Do not be deceived". Read and interpret the word of God as the word of God and not by the word of Ellen White".
Oh my why are you exposing this? We as catholic this is the only doctrine we can be united because we cannot penetrate you in Sabbath. Pls dont believe your prophet Ellen White because she's the only prophet in the world that says there are only 2 beings in Godhead. Only those anti-trinitarian doesn't unite with us!
Your loving Catholic Christian friend.
I don’t believe in the first, second, third person of the Godhead! Those wordings are not taught in Bible , nor did Moses, or the prophets taught that! That is why I refuse to believe it! I only believe the Bible taught!
The Word of GOD is from our maker; stick with the bible. Religion is man made and subject to error.
Look at the 10 commandments; who has the right to change Gods commandments; no one!!
I also went through the same path as you and had the same fear of being deceived again. I’d read my bible and wouldn’t sing any hymns that referred to the Trinity. I felt very uncomfortable and it was a no go zone. I mentioned it to a good friend of mine , who is a retired SDA pastor. He also agreed with me . What a surprise that was!
But where do I go? What hymns do I sing?
Who do I fellowship with?
I find most people don’t question as I do. I don’t understand why they can’t see it. I wonder if they even read their bible. Feeling rather alone not being able to discuss this.
Amen and AMEN!
I also went through the same path as you and had the same fear of being deceived again. I’d read my bible and wouldn’t sing any hymns that referred to the Trinity. I felt very uncomfortable and it was a no go zone. I mentioned it to a good friend of mine , who is a retired SDA pastor. He also agreed with me . What a surprise that was!
But where do I go? What hymns do I sing?
Who do I fellowship with?
I find most people don’t question as I do. I don’t understand why they can’t see it. I wonder if they even read their bible. Feeling rather alone not being able to discuss this.
ua-cam.com/video/430tJmWv-Ic/v-deo.html