1986 Kentucky Derby - Ferdinand
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- A horse from California was supposed to win the 112th Kentucky Derby, but hardly anybody expected it to be Ferdinand, a 17‚1 shot ridden by a 54-year-old jockey and saddled by a 73-year-old trainer. But at the finish of a slow and roughly run Derby, it was Ferdinand, ridden by Bill Shoemaker and trained by Charlie Whittingham, drawing away to a 21/4- length victory over Bold Arrangement and Broad Brush, with the favored Californians, Snow Chief and Badger Land, off the board.
Shoemaker steered Ferdinand, a son of the English triple crown winner Nijinsky II, through heavy traffic from last place to first while covering the mile and a quarter in a dull 2:024/5. Bold Arrangement, an English colt, won a three-way duel for second place, finishing three-quarters of a length in front of Broad Brush. Snow Chief, the 2‚1 favorite, tired badly to finish 11th after taking a brief lead round the far turn. Ferdinand paid $37.40 for $2 to win, the highest Derby payoff since Gato del Sol, also a Californian, also rallied to win from last place and returned $41.40 in 1982.
The race was a sentimental triumph for Shoemaker, who became by far the oldest rider ever to win the race while scoring his fourth Derby triumph, and for Whittingham, a Hall of Fame trainer who had never won a Derby. Artistically, though, it was a less successful Derby run before a crowd of 123,891. The winner's time over a fast track was the slowest in 12 years, and more horses had rough trips than honest ones today.
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I bet on and won on Ferdinand in '86. A few years ago I looked him up and found out the horrific ending this magnificent animal had. I haven't bet on a horse since. If we are going to use animals for our entertainment we must be better stewards over their lives than we are. We fail our animal friends constantly. Just heartbreaking.
sukie584 The horseracing industry did learn from the tragedy of Ferdinand. Because of Ferdinand this has been established: oldfriendsequine.org and New Vocations. www.horseadoption.com.
Did the caller not see Ferdinand at all? He got no mention until the last few yards it seems, all of a sudden he was there! thrilling
Mike Battaglia. Not a great call at all.
This was an absolutely masterful run by the great Bill Shoemaker. Dead last at almost half way through the race, he did not panic or give up as a lot of younger jockeys might have. He carefully guided Ferdinand through traffic to the finish line. His last move to the inside down the final stretch, and then right between two horses, was very skillful.
Can't help but agree w Sukie584! We have to do better for our horses, because we MUST! It's painfully heart-breaking! A derby winner w such a magnificent pedigree! May his ending signify a broader lesson for us all!
Shoe gave me this one that April. "I'll let you know on Derby Day, but I don't think he'll lose."
Ferdinand, Broad Brush, Snow Chief, Groovy, Mogambo - what a talented field.
Won of my three faves. Thanks Shoe and Charlie...aloo I love Charismatic and Barboro
Bill Shoemaker´s ride in 112th. Kentucky Derby was a masterpiece about a racehorse must be ridden. In first quater pole, Ferdinand was last but "The Shoe" waited his moment avoidnig any stumbling block, and when the field turned for home, he was sure Ferdinand would win Run for the Roses. Not in vain Bill Shoemaker won 8.848 races in 41-year career.
Greetings from Venezuela.
Mr. Shoemaker could have bought Ferdinand and had him returned to a retirement farm in the states, but he could not be bothered.
Shoemaker had a lot bigger problems to worry about by then. He became paralyzed from the neck down in a car accident in 1991
@@tessdurberville711he rode many thousands of horses, Mr Genius. How would he know what would happen? JO
What a great race...funny how the race caller didn't call Ferdinand's name once until he took the lead in the final furlong.
Ferdinand and Bill did it just like the mighty Exterminator did back in 1918. From last place to the winner’s circle. Wow what a great champion!
Ferdinand was beautiful.
Too bad he was made into dog food. ua-cam.com/video/EFG6aw_msHk/v-deo.html
Man, I miss Jim McKay
The thrill of victory … and the AGONY of DEFEAT !!
I once met him ; a very kind and friendly Man
This is still my favorite Derby to watch. I was a tremendous Broad Brush fan.
Brilliant ride out of the 1 hole. Dead last going into first turn, then he comes up the rail in the stretch.
Despite all the fanfare, Ferdinand ended up in a slaughterhouse - hanging upside down with his throat cut because he didn't do well at stud. He went to Japan for a few years where he didn't produce any good horses -- so they hacked him to pieces. This horse made a lot of money for someone who should rot in hell. Take it from a racehorse trainer (me) that this is the fate of most horses.
This made me sick !! California Chrome resides at the same stud farm Ferdinand did... let's hope he doesn't end up the same way. I hate the people who completely forgot about this beautiful horse
And most recently Firenze Fire is at stud in Japan
But, not Derby winners, especially Horse of the Year. Kelso rode to the hunt. Onion was living retirement at Hobeau and doing some trail riding with the ex boys at times.
@@stevek8829 FERDINAND was a DERBY WINNER -- That was the point of my original post. You mention a handful of horses -- I can't believe the stupidity --- seriously.
I grew up reading Walter Farley books about race horses, and watching the Triple Crown. By chance, I saw an ad in the Kansas City paper for a bus tour to the Derby in 1986. I jumped at the chance…and I happened to meet my long term beau on the bus! We returned to Churchill Downs for our 10th anniversary. Since we met, we’ve had a lot of travel adventures. I did not win on the horses that day, though. I don’t even remember which horse I bet on, but it was probably Snow Chief.
This is when you still had sprinters trying to stretch out running in the Derby. 6f clocked at 110 and change. You don’t see that anymore. Approaching the far turn the pace collapsed. Ferdinand would have to close on a much slower pace by today’s standards. Would be a differently run race possibly with a different result. Just an observation. That’s how it was in those days.
Great observation. I think the new point system to get into the Derby favors routers over sprinter. This was a pace collapse reminiscent of 1982 with Gato Del Sol and this year with Rich Strike.
THE SHOE IS A LEGEND
Rotten old bastard.
"The Kentucky Derby? There is no an adjective able to describe its greatness"
Jose Gregorio Guillot
Venezuelan horse racing analyst and radio producer.
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I'd like to say this was not one of Mike's better calls. Alas, it was typical.
It sounded like he chugged a bottle of ny quil beforehand. I’ve heard more enthusiastic and exciting eulogies
Let's speak frankly: BATTAGLIA WAS HORRIBLE.
I thought he was good.but othrrs were better.
Lo que hizo Bill Shoemaker en el 112do. Derby de Kenrucky fue una obra maestra sobre como debe ser montado un caballo de carreras. En los cuatrocientos iniciales, Ferdinand iba último sin opción aparente. Pero "El Zapato" esperó su momento evitando cualquier tropiezo y cuando giraron la última curva, llamó a correr al nieto de Northern Dancer para ganar pegado a la baranda interior ¡Por algo Shoemaker ganó 8,848 carreras en 41 años cómo jinete!
Saludos desde Venezuela.
1986 was the 1st year of abc exclusive coverage of the triple crown
Bataglia totally missed that sharp move to the rail.
Very poor call by Battaglia.
the race caller(bataglia) only call the winner once..when he got the lead near the finish...terrible race caller..
right - very bad call
He called his move at the last furlong pole.Shoemaker moved thru a small gap just at the head of the stretch.
Never heard Battaglia call a race before.He didnt even get thru this smaller field.
He pulled a Rich Strike
Blown call by the announcer
Rampage was interfered badly in the last 2 furlongs yet finished an eye catching 4th
The fate of this horse was downright criminal. He went to slaughter in Japan. He either became pet food or steak for human consumption. Absolutely criminal. Someone should have been looking out for the great horse. He also won the 1987 Breeders Cup Classic and was 1987 horse of the year. Despicable!!!
That poor horse went to dog food !! Read an article in bloodhorse about him. It made me sick !! Fortunately after that tragedy alot changed so it would never happen again.
@@christinematton4125what changed? Horses are livestock and legal to slaughter in most places. It's reprehensible to treat a champion that way, but the Japanese are reprehensible and they always will be. So, what changed?
@@stevek8829 People engeneral are reprehensible!!
I never miss watching the Kentucky Derby, Preakness, and Belmont, but as soon as Charles Canty starts talking, I hit Mute. I wish they would just stop with the shoving a mic into the jockey’s face just seconds after he’s won. Let him alone to process and enjoy those few moments, and go back to interviewing him during the trophy presentation ceremony like they used to do.
Hey Jessiemac23! I saw Ferdie at Claiborne in 1989 and have my picture with him... Shoe rode a great horse.. I got to stroke Ferdinand's nose and head... talk about a sweet tempered guy... was a lovely chestnut, very nicely built. I was friends with the Meyerhoffs who owned Broad Brush... also saw Mogambo in stud... but Snow Chief was a nice horse also...
Charlie Had the best grooms in the business!!
"It´s the best race of the country and perhaps of the world. If you win a race like the Kentucky Derby, what else can you ask for?"
John Charles "Jack" Van Berg
(June 6, 1936 - December 27, 2017)
Hall of Fame Trainer
Greetings from Venezuela.
"Es la mejor carrera del país y quizá del mundo. Sí usted gana una carrera como el Derby de Kentucky ¿Qué más puede pedir?"
John Charles "Jack" Van Berg
(6 de Junio 1936 - 27 de Diciembre 2017)
Entrenador del Salón de la Fama.
Saludos desde Venezuela.
rip Ferdinand it's a disgrace awful
The Shoe won that race!
No, Ferdinand won the race. The winner is always the horse. You can say that Shoemaker rode the winner. *
@@toniearl3497 you're absolutely correct. You can't win if you don't have the horse
@@SupermanChiChi I especially want Ferdinand to get credit and be remembered, because of the horrible end he met. News of Ferdinand's fate propelled Michael Blowen to create Old Friends - a thoroughbred retirement home. ( Oldfriendsequine.org ) Ferdinand's Ball is a fundraiser for the farm and a lovely way to remember this horse. Not only did he win the Kentucky Derby, Ferdinand won the Breeders' Cup Classic the following year.
@@toniearl3497 They could accommodate more horses if they did not insist on giving one horse an entire pasture to themselves. Stallions should be gelded and several horses should be pastured together. Ferdinand's U.S. connections are to be blamed for what happened to him. Luckily, they are all in Hell.
* Note that on the Kentucky Derby trophy - the gold cup presented to the horse's owner, it's the name of the horse engraved on it - the owner's name(s) is/are not. The jockey, trainer and breeder receive smaller silver replica trophies.
At 8:29 announcer refers to assistant starters as "assistant trainers." Oops!
You're very welcome..
Last horse to this date to win the derby from post position 1
Man that was a small gap and he shot through it
the guy calling the race did a lousy job
the Master!
Todo un maestro ese shoumaker
How did Shoemaker get through that hole truly amazing ride by the shoe
Uh...a very good Kentucky Derby !
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the state of nevada casinos lost millions on this race. it changed future betting on all future bets in all sports. he was 10,000 to one early and the owners made way more money on that than the race.
I forget...Giocomo
A masterful ride by The Master at 53 years old. Ferdinand went on to win the Breeders Cup Classic and be selected Horse of the Year. He was sold at stud to a Japanese breeder and went on to a Japanese slaughter house. A warrior champion that deserved honored retirement. That showed me the Japanese are still the same cretins that massacred Chinese and Filipinos. They lost face for 1,000. years from WWII. With Ferdinand they reset the clock.
The "master" could have been the one to save Ferdinand, but he could not be bothered to keep track of him, nor could His owners the Kecks, Wittingham, or any of his purported fans. France, Mexico, Sweden and Canada all slaughter horses.
Jockeys can't follow thousands of horses. What would Shoemaker do, tell then they can't sell, tell the Japs what to do?
So what, other counties (including US) slaughter horses? What point is that you try to make? Ferdinand is a Derby winner, they earn retirement, stud or not.
Thanks for two irrelevant observations. Two!
@@tessdurberville711you didn’t make any point even though you tried to disagree. Nobody kills a Derby winner. No human that is. So what if those countries slaughter horses, so does the US. But a Derby winner, NO.
Those other folks didn’t own the horse nor would they have been informed. What a mindless triviality.
Ferdinand paid over $90 to win in a separate betting pool in Florida
Did the person calling this race chug a gallon of ny quil beforehand? I’ve heard more exciting and enthusiastic eulogies.
What you say is true.
Ferdinand:
(March 12, 1983 - 2002)
* Sire: Nijinsky
* Grandsire: Northern Dancer
* Dam: Banja Luka
* Damsire: Double Jay
* 29 Starts
* 8 Wins
* 9 Seconds
* 6 Thirds
* U.S.$ 3,777,978 earned.
* 1987 U.S. Champion Older Male Horse
* 1987 United States Horse of the Year
Greetings from Venezuela.
Ferdinand:
(12 de Marzo, 1983 - 2002)
* Padre: Nijinsky
* Abuelo: Northern Dancer
* Madre: Banja Luka
* Abuela: Double Jay
* 29 Salidas
* 8 Triunfos
* 9 Segundos
* 6 Terceros
* U.S.$ 3,777,978 producidos.
* Campeón Caballo Maduro de Estados Unidos
1987
* Caballo del año de Estados Unidos 1987
Saludos desde Venezuela.
Dum owner why they not keep ferdinand !
Sold to Japan to stand stud for big money
A shame he would’ve lived a lot longer if he was a gelding. 😭
Every horse owner is an interesting character, especially during a major win celebration. That lady owner of Ferdinand though, look like one of those female pictures u hang on the wall for halloween to enlighten ur house. U look at her, and ur amazed by her beauty, but when u take half step to one side and look at her again, she spooks ur soul out.
He says fredand
Bataglia was a terrible race caller
Yes! I don´t understand how Mike Battaglia called not only 112th. Kentucky Derby. He also called, as I remember, 108th. and 109th Roses! I prefer Tom Durkin, Dave Johnson or retired South African born Trevor Denman.
Regards from Venezuela.
He was the race caller at Churchill for about 15 years. Albeit not a very good one.
@@charlesdavis7523 I still remember his call on the 83 derby
Terrible call
in an 11horse race, its not the same difficulty as in a 20horse race today to go from last to 1st.
This is the worst call in derby history.. I could have done a better job in my sleep
A horrible race call by a horrible announcer.
Battaglia was one of worst major race callers. He tries to sound a little like an auctioneer. I just don't like his cadence.
sad
The guy announcing should have been an auctioneer instead of calling races. Whew. Flat boring