I went and played the 70 today. I have the 50 w expansion since last fall.. I like it a bunch.. the 70 has some cool upgrades. Essentially it’s what I have on steroids. I thought I’d buy the 1250 today but without Bluetooth audio I’m holding off. 1250 is offered at $999.00 currently. Great deal. Im really tempted because I believe they are going to discontinue the 1250 soon. That really puts me in a conundrum. BT Audio is a big deal for me but the physical size of the 1250 kit is also a big deal too.. the 1250 at GC today wasn’t in good set up mode.. the snare was loose, the sound wasn’t hooked up so I really didn’t get to give it a chance.. I can always buy a $16.00 Bluetooth plug on device and turn the 1250 into BT Audio.. so there ya go.. decisions decisions… I’m going back to GC tomorrow and get them to hook it up properly and let me tighten up the heads and plug in my headphones and go at it with some music.. that should help.. the “floor Tom’s are 10” too which is huge.. and the cymbals are larger.. huge.. thd dual Tom’s is cool but both 70 and 1250 have em…I’ll let y’all know after tomorrow..
Thats the problem. Even with Roland you never get everything you want. Always some feature left out😅 But edrums are so much fun. And these Simmons sets are pretty cool!
At this price point there are no challengers. Super sturdy rack. Amazing sounds. Do customize even preset kits. I am sending kit to a mini powered mixer w/ a 5 headphone splitter jack so the whole band can play along. The mixer makes this kit even sound better! Tension your pads to emulate your acoustic drum set up. I am using the DW 5000 heelless pedal w/ plastic beater w/ pedal plate [helps stabilize the kick]. The kick pedal is garbage should have not included it and lowered the price point. Titan 70
Tune in to watch the LIVE Unboxing and Set Up of the Donner DED - 200. You can click to be reminded. ua-cam.com/users/livesTM2ob4cwbk?si=EVKWSR2QG3kd7Q9C
This is the most interesting part of the titan 70, you can add more pads to a monster kit, better than another medium level kits like alesis crimson, alesis command, carlsbro, etc. This is why I consider the titan 70 the perfect kit for me, I can add the exactly number of pads to make the exactly acoustic drum set that I use. Thank you simmons, my dreams were done.
Clutch review. I play out a lot, so my Gretsch is always packed up. Really want an electric practice kit so I can play at home quietly. Trying to decide between these two.
The bell (triple zone ride) although minor, takes the 70 to the next level for creativity for me. Add the larger bass drum and dual pads… and it’s a no brainer.
Bought an alesis nitro mesh during the plandemic to play/record while everything shut down and at that time it was brand new on the scene now ⏩ price has dropped since i initially bought it Now I'm looking at this Titan 70 and to me it just sounds like the quality of sound is a lot better so I'm like maybe I should trade mine take the difference and buy and upgrade a kit 🤷🏾♂️ but with the nitro mesh I will say you can achieve the sounds that you want just by adjusting the pitch of your drums It has been sturdy and it has held up No problems for me whatsoever
I bought the Titan 50 because the budget didn’t allow for the Titan 70. Even though I really liked the 70. This is my first electronic drum kit. I’m used to playing on a Ludwig vista lite set but I don’t gig anymore. I’m totally lost when you start talking about zones.
Tune in to watch the LIVE Unboxing and Set Up of the Donner DED - 200. You can click to be reminded. ua-cam.com/users/livesTM2ob4cwbk?si=EVKWSR2QG3kd7Q9C
I love my 1250. I have it connected to two DA2108 drum amps with my phone synced to them for my music. Expansion is not available but thats ok because I just use it at home. Other than expansion the 70 doesn't do anything different than the 1250. But I stole it for $849.99 at GC.
Hello! Loving your content - used a bunch of it to try and make my first foray into e drums (with 25+ years as an acoustic drummer, knowing I didn't want trash, but likely wanted expansion capabilities for more cymbals and DIY drum builds down the line, and semi-decent dual zone mesh pads). Anyways, I ended up with a black friday sale Titan 70 - and wondered if you had any of the issues that I am having - particularly when trying to utilize the expansion ports? Or when trying to integrate a Lemon 3 zone ride? First - the manual I downloaded said exp1 and exp2 ports were assignable as "dual zone" inputs, for dual zone pads and for splitting to two single zone pads from one jack - or - it said you could assign the exp ports to be a "cymbal / crash" (allowing cymbal chokes to be interpreted). However, when trying the expansion ports, with simmons or other brands, they could not be set to "crash" mode - to understand/use chokes. Do you still have your Titan 70, to see if you have this issue? Or if you can figure out using the Lemon ride instead of the stock one, via the stock 3 zone with choke ride cable snake, or via one or two of the exp ports? And a bit deeper - if you succeeded with the lemon, but needed both exp ports to utilize it's 3 zones and choke, what are the capabilities of the simmons ride cymbal jack from the module snake? Are there any other e cymbal types/brands that you know of, that can fully utilize its 3 way plus choke - or maybe can it be split to two crashes with choke (is this a potential cable that can support two crashes somehow, where one's choke sensor could choke either crash, yet both crashes have seperate assignable cymbal sounds? - I believe I saw this is one of your videos for a different module, a happy accident trying cable splits and extra cymbals, apologies if that was someone else)?
I’ve never used the Lemon products. I’m more of a use it as is. However… I haven’t had any issues with it. I admit I have 10 different sets and my main is the SD1250. I haven’t tried all the combinations you’re speaking of.
Hey man awesome video! Can I ask you a question man? The Simmons looks like a great kit but is it true the rack system is kind of flimsy and Shakey? I heard it uses a lot of plastic my mounts, and that the rack system shook while playing. Is that true and also would you get this over a Alesis Command?? Thank you
It does shake… so does my acoustic. A lot of people that are making statements…. 🤔 let me say this. If you’re super rough it will break. Yes it uses plastic but it’s not as flimsy and some would have you believe. And yes, I’d take the simmons over the Alesis.
Hey Keithron. Fantastic review, looking forward to that sound comparison video you talked about. I have read that the enclosed snare makes a bunch of noise because of the enclosed bottom amplifying the stick slap. Could you record the room noise when you do your sound comparison? Also, could you measure the area that the Tital 70 takes up. I have a sound control riser / booth I am putting together and hope the thing will be large enough. Thanks!
@@KeithronPowell I'm also interested in how much space it takes up once set - up....I'm thinking of buying the Titan 70 today but, there's little room in the bedroom. It looks like it could fit, but I want to be sure....There doesn't seem to be any info on Simmon's website, nor in the manual on full set up dimmensions for width.
Hi Keithron, I know you were avoiding the T 50 vs SD1250 review! :-) Do you have a quick take on T 70 ($800) vs SD1250 (on sale $900) for someone with beginner experience and their first e-kit? I like on the T 70 the 3-way ride and the kick pedal. T 70 seems easier to setup. But I like the larger floor toms on the 1250. I guess I'm mostly wondering about the sound kits/ease-of-use. What do you think? New to the channel and digging it!
I did a review comparing the 50 and the 1250….ua-cam.com/video/Pvcp0GFCxc8/v-deo.htmlsi=TijNkYC1mJ2-mKeZ im working on 70 vs 1250… stay tuned and thanks for watching
@@KeithronPowellAwesome! I have been using your videos to decide on a kit. I was about to pull the trigger on a SD1250 when your Titan 70 video dropped. I can’t wait to see your comparison!! Thanks for all your videos.
Simmons news department is terible. They released the Jazz Titan pack and did not told you. Now they released the Titan App for Android and no news anywhere. Did they even told you this time ? Has a few issues with the app connection but finally got it working. Love the loop feature.
I have a question for you. I just sold my Titan50/wexpansion with the thought that I deserved to move up to Sd1250. I’m concerned that it’s possible that the 1250 won’t satisfy me as much as the 50’s. I know the size alone is improvement but I’m wondering if the triggers as a good on the 1250(?) the 50 had the best decay sounds the kind that reveal the room well. Will the 1250 do the same? What’s your overall opinion of the sd1250 as it compares to the 50 and the 70? Today .. in the present .. would you choose the 1250 over either of those? I’m ready to purchase And I want this to it for a while. I’d rather have the Roland’s but the price is out of my reach. I joined MF so I can qualify for the 1250 at $810.00 right now. Tell me what you think..
@@KeithronPowell that’s the short answer.. but you didn’t answer the sound sampling question. The decay on the 50 and 70 cymbals and snare have a definite “room” feeling to them. Being that the 1250 is a 2-3 year old design/technology, is it up to par with the 50 and 70 as far as dynamic performance?
@@KeithronPowell one more thing.. the only place to play these are at Guitar Center.. the 1250 on display is shoved up against wall, not hooked up, the heads have been left unattended for so long that they nearly drape down and touch the meddle mounted trigger… so “playing” then becomes difficult unless they let me literally set them up properly. The new 70 on display plays like a dream… that’s what they want to sell.. and since Guitar Center is Musicians Friend and Simmons and both those companies are the same it seems apparent that they want to sell the new 70 more than anything else because there is probably more margin.. so again.. it’s hard to test them if they aren’t prepared to do so
@@paulbfields8284 I think they sound better but I think it’s subjective. That’s why I suggest test them. Because sometimes feel outward sound. Especially since you can EQ and adjust sound decay
I think you should take some of your favorite headphones and go try them out to see what’s the best one for you. I haven’t played a Roland in quite some time so it’s hard to suggest which is better. I’d also suggest looking at the specs to see what has the better. I know the T70 has a lot of new tech not found on a lot of drums.
Thanks for stopping . 😂 listen, I’m not for everyone and that’s ok. If you wanna see someone play and not tell you about the drums there are plenty of other channels. You’re not hurting my feelings.
I think this guy is informative, gets the information out quickly and accurately, and uses as much playing footage to get his point across. Professional dude and knows what he's talking about! I appreciate your videos man
I already have the 50. I like it a lot! I’ll trade it in for the 70 in a couple years🦋
a couple years? The new Titan 50 will be out by then. LOL
Triple zone ride is a nice upgrade.
Agreed
Killer Review my man! Hope they give you kick backs, just ordered the 70!
Thanks… glad it helped.
Same here!
I went and played the 70 today. I have the 50 w expansion since last fall.. I like it a bunch.. the 70 has some cool upgrades. Essentially it’s what I have on steroids. I thought I’d buy the 1250 today but without Bluetooth audio I’m holding off. 1250 is offered at $999.00 currently. Great deal. Im really tempted because I believe they are going to discontinue the 1250 soon. That really puts me in a conundrum. BT Audio is a big deal for me but the physical size of the 1250 kit is also a big deal too.. the 1250 at GC today wasn’t in good set up mode.. the snare was loose, the sound wasn’t hooked up so I really didn’t get to give it a chance.. I can always buy a $16.00 Bluetooth plug on device and turn the 1250 into BT Audio.. so there ya go.. decisions decisions… I’m going back to GC tomorrow and get them to hook it up properly and let me tighten up the heads and plug in my headphones and go at it with some music.. that should help.. the “floor Tom’s are 10” too which is huge.. and the cymbals are larger.. huge.. thd dual Tom’s is cool but both 70 and 1250 have em…I’ll let y’all know after tomorrow..
Thats the problem. Even with Roland you never get everything you want. Always some feature left out😅
But edrums are so much fun. And these Simmons sets are pretty cool!
At this price point there are no challengers. Super sturdy rack. Amazing sounds. Do customize even preset kits. I am sending kit to a mini powered mixer w/ a 5 headphone splitter jack so the whole band can play along. The mixer makes this kit even sound better! Tension your pads to emulate your acoustic drum set up. I am using the DW 5000 heelless pedal w/ plastic beater w/ pedal plate [helps stabilize the kick]. The kick pedal is garbage should have not included it and lowered the price point. Titan 70
The absolute truth… unless you get something well over $1000 it’s likely going to not do something.
Tune in to watch the LIVE Unboxing and Set Up of the Donner DED - 200. You can click to be reminded. ua-cam.com/users/livesTM2ob4cwbk?si=EVKWSR2QG3kd7Q9C
This is the most interesting part of the titan 70, you can add more pads to a monster kit, better than another medium level kits like alesis crimson, alesis command, carlsbro, etc. This is why I consider the titan 70 the perfect kit for me, I can add the exactly number of pads to make the exactly acoustic drum set that I use. Thank you simmons, my dreams were done.
Agreed!
Thanks man.I really appreciate your time in making your videos. This one helped me make up my mind.New sub here.
Awesome!
Good clear explanations Keithron!
Thanks
Love your content! Your vidoes will help me choose which kit to buy 🥁
👍🏽
Just sold my Titan 50 and ordered me a Titan 70.
Cool
Clutch review. I play out a lot, so my Gretsch is always packed up. Really want an electric practice kit so I can play at home quietly. Trying to decide between these two.
The bell (triple zone ride) although minor, takes the 70 to the next level for creativity for me. Add the larger bass drum and dual pads… and it’s a no brainer.
Bought an alesis nitro mesh during the plandemic to play/record while everything shut down and at that time it was brand new on the scene now ⏩ price has dropped since i initially bought it Now I'm looking at this Titan 70 and to me it just sounds like the quality of sound is a lot better so I'm like maybe I should trade mine take the difference and buy and upgrade a kit 🤷🏾♂️ but with the nitro mesh I will say you can achieve the sounds that you want just by adjusting the pitch of your drums It has been sturdy and it has held up No problems for me whatsoever
Cool
Great video! Very informative. Quite enjoyable.
Thanks
I bought the Titan 50 because the budget didn’t allow for the Titan 70. Even though I really liked the 70. This is my first electronic drum kit. I’m used to playing on a Ludwig vista lite set but I don’t gig anymore. I’m totally lost when you start talking about zones.
The rim and the head… those are called zones
Titan 70 definitely sounds better. But it could be better analog a outputs.
Tune in to watch the LIVE Unboxing and Set Up of the Donner DED - 200. You can click to be reminded. ua-cam.com/users/livesTM2ob4cwbk?si=EVKWSR2QG3kd7Q9C
Hey man, great video. I’m considering picking up the titan 50 but i don’t got a lot of space in my house. Do you know how much room it takes up?
I love my 1250. I have it connected to two DA2108 drum amps with my phone synced to them for my music. Expansion is not available but thats ok because I just use it at home. Other than expansion the 70 doesn't do anything different than the 1250. But I stole it for $849.99 at GC.
Sweet deal!
I really want the Titan 70. Sadly, Guitar Centre doesn’t ship to the UK. 😢
I know
Hello! Loving your content - used a bunch of it to try and make my first foray into e drums (with 25+ years as an acoustic drummer, knowing I didn't want trash, but likely wanted expansion capabilities for more cymbals and DIY drum builds down the line, and semi-decent dual zone mesh pads). Anyways, I ended up with a black friday sale Titan 70 - and wondered if you had any of the issues that I am having - particularly when trying to utilize the expansion ports? Or when trying to integrate a Lemon 3 zone ride? First - the manual I downloaded said exp1 and exp2 ports were assignable as "dual zone" inputs, for dual zone pads and for splitting to two single zone pads from one jack - or - it said you could assign the exp ports to be a "cymbal / crash" (allowing cymbal chokes to be interpreted). However, when trying the expansion ports, with simmons or other brands, they could not be set to "crash" mode - to understand/use chokes. Do you still have your Titan 70, to see if you have this issue? Or if you can figure out using the Lemon ride instead of the stock one, via the stock 3 zone with choke ride cable snake, or via one or two of the exp ports? And a bit deeper - if you succeeded with the lemon, but needed both exp ports to utilize it's 3 zones and choke, what are the capabilities of the simmons ride cymbal jack from the module snake? Are there any other e cymbal types/brands that you know of, that can fully utilize its 3 way plus choke - or maybe can it be split to two crashes with choke (is this a potential cable that can support two crashes somehow, where one's choke sensor could choke either crash, yet both crashes have seperate assignable cymbal sounds? - I believe I saw this is one of your videos for a different module, a happy accident trying cable splits and extra cymbals, apologies if that was someone else)?
I’ve never used the Lemon products. I’m more of a use it as is. However… I haven’t had any issues with it. I admit I have 10 different sets and my main is the SD1250. I haven’t tried all the combinations you’re speaking of.
Hey man awesome video! Can I ask you a question man? The Simmons looks like a great kit but is it true the rack system is kind of flimsy and Shakey? I heard it uses a lot of plastic my mounts, and that the rack system shook while playing. Is that true and also would you get this over a Alesis Command?? Thank you
It does shake… so does my acoustic. A lot of people that are making statements…. 🤔 let me say this. If you’re super rough it will break. Yes it uses plastic but it’s not as flimsy and some would have you believe. And yes, I’d take the simmons over the Alesis.
Hey Keithron. Fantastic review, looking forward to that sound comparison video you talked about. I have read that the enclosed snare makes a bunch of noise because of the enclosed bottom amplifying the stick slap. Could you record the room noise when you do your sound comparison? Also, could you measure the area that the Tital 70 takes up. I have a sound control riser / booth I am putting together and hope the thing will be large enough. Thanks!
I never have anyone ask for room noise? 🤔 I think I’ll do that next
@@KeithronPowell I'm also interested in how much space it takes up once set - up....I'm thinking of buying the Titan 70 today but, there's little room in the bedroom. It looks like it could fit, but I want to be sure....There doesn't seem to be any info on Simmon's website, nor in the manual on full set up dimmensions for width.
@@donpaine5512 it’s completely adjustable. I have a 5x7 rug and there’s plenty of room left. I’m sure you’ll have no issues
Hi Keithron, I know you were avoiding the T 50 vs SD1250 review! :-) Do you have a quick take on T 70 ($800) vs SD1250 (on sale $900) for someone with beginner experience and their first e-kit? I like on the T 70 the 3-way ride and the kick pedal. T 70 seems easier to setup. But I like the larger floor toms on the 1250. I guess I'm mostly wondering about the sound kits/ease-of-use. What do you think? New to the channel and digging it!
I did a review comparing the 50 and the 1250….ua-cam.com/video/Pvcp0GFCxc8/v-deo.htmlsi=TijNkYC1mJ2-mKeZ im working on 70 vs 1250… stay tuned and thanks for watching
@@KeithronPowellAwesome! I have been using your videos to decide on a kit. I was about to pull the trigger on a SD1250 when your Titan 70 video dropped. I can’t wait to see your comparison!! Thanks for all your videos.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 brother awesome channel
Thanks
Just bought the 70 thanks!
👍🏽
Simmons news department is terible. They released the Jazz Titan pack and did not told you. Now they released the Titan App for Android and no news anywhere. Did they even told you this time ? Has a few issues with the app connection but finally got it working. Love the loop feature.
I announced it when it was in beta… invited people to join… I announced when it went live as well.
@@KeithronPowell mmm did not see that in your channel. I found it by accident in Google Playstore. It is not announced anywhere on the Simmons website
oh, and Happy New Year !
But is the 70 worth almost double the price?🤔
So the million dollar question is: It is worth it to jump up to 70 for almost double the price.
In my opinion-- yes or may… it sorta depends on what your purpose and usage is
If I’m just gonna practice… and not playing outside of that… nah
I have a question for you. I just sold my Titan50/wexpansion with the thought that I deserved to move up to Sd1250. I’m concerned that it’s possible that the 1250 won’t satisfy me as much as the 50’s. I know the size alone is improvement but I’m wondering if the triggers as a good on the 1250(?) the 50 had the best decay sounds the kind that reveal the room well. Will the 1250 do the same? What’s your overall opinion of the sd1250 as it compares to the 50 and the 70? Today .. in the present .. would you choose the 1250 over either of those? I’m ready to purchase And I want this to it for a while. I’d rather have the Roland’s but the price is out of my reach. I joined MF so I can qualify for the 1250 at $810.00 right now. Tell me what you think..
The pads make me go with the 1250… I’d suggest test them.
@@KeithronPowell that’s the short answer.. but you didn’t answer the sound sampling question. The decay on the 50 and 70 cymbals and snare have a definite “room” feeling to them. Being that the 1250 is a 2-3 year old design/technology, is it up to par with the 50 and 70 as far as dynamic performance?
@@KeithronPowell one more thing.. the only place to play these are at Guitar Center.. the 1250 on display is shoved up against wall, not hooked up, the heads have been left unattended for so long that they nearly drape down and touch the meddle mounted trigger… so “playing” then becomes difficult unless they let me literally set them up properly. The new 70 on display plays like a dream… that’s what they want to sell.. and since Guitar Center is Musicians Friend and Simmons and both those companies are the same it seems apparent that they want to sell the new 70 more than anything else because there is probably more margin.. so again.. it’s hard to test them if they aren’t prepared to do so
@@paulbfields8284 I think they sound better but I think it’s subjective. That’s why I suggest test them. Because sometimes feel outward sound. Especially since you can EQ and adjust sound decay
What kind of sound board are you using
Harbinger LV12
Yo Keith have you ever done an alesis review?
There are multiple on my page and even comparisons to Simmons
Should I go titan 70 or drop 1,000 on a Roland?
I think you should take some of your favorite headphones and go try them out to see what’s the best one for you. I haven’t played a Roland in quite some time so it’s hard to suggest which is better. I’d also suggest looking at the specs to see what has the better. I know the T70 has a lot of new tech not found on a lot of drums.
Is the hi-hat pedal on/off or does it have closed / half-open / full open?
I think it’s just open closed but I need to really focus on that.
Where can In buy xtra cymbal and tom mounts for the Titan 70?
Check Guitar Center they may have some solutions. A snare stand is an option but there are others
How can I buy in India
🤷🏽♂️ that’s not going to be an easy feat.
Do we know the prices yet??
The Titan 70 is $799 & the Titan 50 is $399 on sale from $449
@@bikeryder1025the 50 with expansion is being offered at $549.00..
👍🏽 did you get one yet?
What about playing rolls? Toy kits won't smoothly reproduce a roll, they have a machine gun effect. Better kits will smoothly reproduce a roll.
I think you should go play on one… I haven’t had any issues and I’ve recorded music that’s out…
my poor ass will take either one lol
😂😂
All your videos are 90% talk and 10% playing the actual instruments! Because of that I stopped watching your videos!
Thanks for stopping . 😂 listen, I’m not for everyone and that’s ok. If you wanna see someone play and not tell you about the drums there are plenty of other channels. You’re not hurting my feelings.
@@KeithronPowellI disagree…The way you’re doing it is awesome
I think this guy is informative, gets the information out quickly and accurately, and uses as much playing footage to get his point across. Professional dude and knows what he's talking about! I appreciate your videos man
@@T-Bone_Jenkins thanks
@keithronpowell can the Titan 70 cymbals be choked?