Has PTI Picked a Fight with America? کیا پی ٹی آئی نے امریکیوں کو چیلنج کرنے کا فیصلہ کر لیا؟
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Bio: Wajahat S. Khan is an Emmy-nominated journalist and author reporting on Indo-Pacific security and focusing on the Af-Pak conflict. An Adjunct Professor at New York University’s Center of Global Affairs and non-resident Senior Fellow at Washington’s Atlantic Council, Khan is a graduate of the Columbia University School of Journalism and the University of Michigan, as well as Pakistan’s only Shorenstein Fellow for Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. He has reported from 16 countries covering conflict, diplomacy, and media for digital, cable and network news. During the final years of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan, Khan was bureau chief in Kabul and Islamabad for NBC News, and embedded with over a hundred NATO, Afghan, Indian and Pakistani military and paramilitary units as he covered South Asia for leading US, British, Indian, Japanese and Pakistani networks and publications since the beginning of the 2001 U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. Recently, he served as the Digital Editor at Nikkei Asia, where he launched Nikkei’s first podcast series, and edited a popular weekend newsletter at the Eurasia Group. He frequently dabbles in cricket, and is the author of the 2019 Amazon / Harper Collins non-fiction bestseller, “Game Changer: Being Shahid Afridi.” He lives between New York City, London and Karachi. - Розваги
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کیا امریکہ 90 فیصد پاکستانیوں کی نفرت برداشت کر لے گا
امریکہ کو کیا فرق پڑ رھا. جبکہ ساری دنیا اسرائیل اور امریکہ کو فلسطین پر ظلم کے خلاف احتجاج کر رھی ہے.. امریکہ ایک ہی نشانہ ہے. وہ کیسے اپنی طاقت پر برقرار رکھ سکتے ہیں. پاکستان کا منیرا مستری وسکی جب تک امریکہ کے مقاصد کو پورا کے گا. امریکی کو لوگوں سے کوئی غرض نہیں ہے
Q farq nahi parh raha biden ki popularity election me 20 tak anay ki waja yahi nafrat hai.
Supporting Imran Khan is ultimetly support of Pakistan and Pakistani Americans are not doing it for Imran Khan but for the better future of Pakistan
Hahaha that’s a perfect “la la land” suggested by the guest !
As I remember, this is the same guy who said in your previous vlog that Pakistan was no longer of importance to the US. Today he seems to have a completely opposite stance. He seems to have a facile understanding of Pakistan.
Actually,and exactly, it's not about PTI it's about Pakistani democracy. We are done with two martial laws and last 35 plus years of Bhutto Nawaz legacy.
This is the 5th direct martial law and 36years indirect martial law so collectively we are facing martial law from last 76 years
And 24 IMF bailouts !
Yes there was much hope but unfortunately we got yet another 'Namuna' after Nawaz and Zardari who ended up making the Army even more powerful than ever before. Thank you Imran Khan for giving extension to Bajwa and leaning on Faiz for crushing the opposition. Also thank you for giving extension to Justice Javed Iqbal as NAB chairman after his dirty video became viral. Thank you for scutteling Pakistan to satisfy self love.
I hear you and you have my sympathy but the man you are championing (IK ) came on the shoulders of generals, still believes the only way to come back to power is to mend his ways with the establishment. How does it help democracy?
Come back to Pakistan, USA is not the turf.
You don't understand the sentiments of the people. You misread the situation and underestimate the anger of the people against the Establishment.
Pakistan is under undeclared martial law for last two years.Pakistanis want true democracy,rule of law and and end to human rights violations.Pakistanis especially the diaspora should continue their efforts to fight for democracy,
"Never underestimate the power of great people of pakistan" an excellent analysis by Dhume , Be positive and stay positive,WAJAHAT S KHAN you're appreciated ,great job,my full support for the independenc and independent journalism,stay blessed,LONGLIVEIMRANKHAN❤
Cuz it suited your ears that's why it became excellent analysis? 😂 Typical pakistani punjabi mind.
Reality : Ever since "absolutely not" America is never gonna side with IK.
Thel double down on investments with the shareefs and zardaris unfortunately
Absolutely not was yet another drama in a series of dramas. May I ask where did successive governments compromise on Pakistan's interests? Do we have US bases or drone attacks in Pakistan today? Has Pakistan recognized Israel? IK ko dekho aur uskay dramay dekho.
@@SayVeritatis they didn’t have to “compromise”. The only interest they ever had in mind was their own. After 76 years Pakistanis are still poverty-stricken, 45% illiterate, unrepresented, and specially today living under scuffling censorship and a reign of terror. Tomorrow your own children will question you.
Dhume is as cut off from ground realities in Pakistan as is his claim that PTI supporters are living in cloud cuckoo land.
USA is comfortable with ZARDARI and SHAREEF'S is because they are "YES SIR" type people.
When you are weak, you need to be a YES man. Imran needs to learn this. "Absolutely Not" will work only if you are parity power.
@@sandeepkulkarni6851 what about Taliban ! They are all alone and weak…. fought 40 years, and always says Absolutely NOT, now comes in absolute power.
As Muslim (not hypocrite or Munafiq muslim) we only believes on All mighty Allah (The absolute power).
@@obaid821 i thought Pakistan wanted to remain a democratic nation. Yes if Pakistan wish to follow Taliban and become a mullah nation, they can. But then be ready for sanctions. Afghanistan does not borrow money from IMF. Your PM, on the other hand, claimed that Pakistan would need a longer and larger IMF program. As long as you beg for money, you will need to be a YES man. Remember your PM's words- Beggers can't be choosers.
@@obaid821 if you are looking up to taliban then good luck to you and Pakistan. Cos look what their So called “absolutely not “ ended up doing to afghan and its people !
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Good comments. The U.S. is hand in gloves with the establishments etc from the very beginning, so there is no chance of any change for the PTI or the people of Pakistan.
WSK I am disappointed that you are so impressed by Dhume. You might as well join the queue and support Donald Lu's statements at the hearing about the ground realities in Pakistan.
WSK plays all side. With little integrity
Sadhanand: should know, PTI knows that USA will not only work with the Army regime but loves to do so as it’s easy for them to achieve their interests, easy to drown down Pakistan interests in current regime.
When Zardaris Shareef’s and Generals have properties abroad along with zero roots in Pakistani public, it’s easy to twist their hands
How about we all play out in the open . It’s not about gaining or losing it’s about awareness of what America actually does to Pakistan and its foreign policy
Very True!! They forgive India and Israel for committing genocides and America does not have a word to say against them.
@@rehanatahir5736 they supported you in Bengali genocide.
@@kapilsethia9284correction supported corrupted Generals
Current regime might look strong but actually they are standing on flimsy supports, only wait for first strong wind whether economic or at borders.
We are done with mind set who had their personal lobbying including Haqani story. We need democratic spirit to be in Pakistan either by Dumps or Humps.
A large majority of people in Pakistan today voted against the Establishment. They will continue to struggle for their rights and for democracy. US will Ignore this fact and it will guarantee a failure in the policy they have pursued and continue to pursue in Pakistan. It is a huge mistake.
No it is not figjt with US, it is a steuggle for co-operation two Democracy. That means US should deal with elected people in Pakistan, no more with military.
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Need to be checked where Dhume is getting the funding from! Anybody can be a journalist in today's world!
Dhume seems to have a soft corner for zardari's oh Bhutto's 😂
The very complacency of the Establishment will bring them down.
This is just the beginning.
I would trust what IK or SMQ tells me over what I hear from the mouth of Donald Lu. He was giving the audience what they wanted to hear esp about terrorist attacks. He never talked about State terrorism against the people who were standing up for their rights.
india and israel has democracy . PTI is struggling for democracy? If there is democracy in pakistan then this question is valid that pakistani comunity is working for PTI.
Both the countries you have named area apartheid states, where some citizens are not allowed to vote and and second minority can’t get the same facilities.
This discussion is realistic and objective. It is very important to know ground reality. Pakistani diaspora has arrived. This is a high time to get organized and put together objectives for future endeavors.
PTI people need to understand if they need to anything they need to do in Pakistan first & outer world will adjust.
US will not come & help.
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No, it's not entirely true. It's clear that the Biden administration was involved in the oust of IK Government. They need both International and national pressure, against the Military Establishment.
Pakistani lobbying can be compared to the Greek lobby that was eminent in the US in the wake of the military overthrow of Greek democracy in 1970s. "Don't visit Greece even for sight-seeing till there is military rule", announced one bill board in US during that cataclysmic period for Greece.
Long live Pakistan and more power to lk ♥️🇵🇰💪
Nothing is more Important than US Interest.....
The strategy is to come clear and be truthful ! Challenge the status quo of excepting and sugar coating eveything that US does.
Pakistan Army may not be able to Liberate Kashmir.
Pakistan Army may have LOST East Pakistan,.........BUT Pakistan Army have NEVER lost a Election in Pakistan.
Pakistan ZindaaBaad
Be effing original at least....stop cutting and pasting from Murdoodi cheat sheet!
OK General Asim Sahib @@unbearablelightness
Very true, it is a success of Pakistan Diaspora. PTI purposely did not divert it towards Army.
Obviously..... USA is not interested in getting Pakistani citizens out of trouble
It is our responsibility to get ourselves out of a tight spot . Fight like a fire but be still like a mountain.
Bro,, we need your thoughts on tomorrow's grand display parade funded by the loans and begging bowl, intended to impress India and maybe Taliban ...
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Looking at the helpless and hopeless condition of P.stanis, it seems Gandhi did a great job to invent the weapon of peaceful non-coperation mass movement..totally non-violent but dedicated to the cause and so effective as to make the British quit India!
Wajahat I don't know but I feel this person have same grudges with PTI that International establishment have, that Modi govt US govt have
He’s an RSS guy.
WSK,janab aap sahi maano may journalism kay zerye apnay zameer ki awaaz hayn,Allah aapko amaan may rakhkhay, Aameen
I believe what many people in the US fail to understand is that there's a new player in the game: the Pakistani middle class. Yes, generals and traditional families still manage to cling to power. However, at some point, the US will have to realize the importance of engaging with the middle class.
Thank you sir
Proud of you khan sab ❤
Thank You for doing this, I think for the first time in my life I have seen the whole event. Really enjoyed it, with the explanations.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Stay safe ❤
Excellent thread; couldn’t agree more.
Excellent discussion
PTI supporters need to ask themselves this question...why should the US back IK instead of the present dispensation?? What is it that IK.can give them that the establishment can't?? Find the answer...and work from there!! In international affairs there's no moral or ethical play...self interest always comes first!!
The more reason to have Khan back. He has our back and will protect our interest first. The question to ask is how much will we be willing to allow US to exploit us in its ruthless pursuit of its own interests in the region ?
Pakistani electorate has been found to be toothless time and again, because the US won't support you (for reasons stated above), and the second pillar, China, doesn't care shit!! As far as the gulf countries are concerned, the less said the better!! So what are we left with then?? Civil War?? Can't win there!! The only option left is the proverbial "Gaddhe ko Baap banaao"...if IK wants to come out of this with shining colors, then he will have to tone down the rhetoric, let the US know that he would deliver better than the present establishment, create space for himself (even if he needs to make peace with Zardari & Sharifs), and then go about creating the Pakistan of his dream!! Unfortunately, no other way out!!
The Pakistani electorate has been found to be toothless time and again because of the US won't support it (for reasons mentioned above), and the second pillar, China, cares shit!! Less said the better about the gulf countries!! So what are we left with?? Civil War?? Unfortunately, can't win that!! The only option left for IK to come out of this with shining colors is to do the proverbial "Gaddhe ko Baap banaao", he will need to tone down the rhetoric, create space for himself by making peace with PMLN & PPP, get all his horses aligned, and then go ahead creating the Pakistan of his dreams!! Unfortunately, nothing else will work!!
@@beowulfourcaucasianshepher8528The Pakistani electorate has been found to be toothless time and again because of the US won't support it (for reasons mentioned above), and the second pillar, China, cares shit!! Less said the better about the gulf countries!! So what are we left with?? Civil War?? Unfortunately, can't win that!! The only option left for IK to come out of this with shining colors is to do the proverbial "Gaddhe ko Baap banaao", he will need to tone down the rhetoric, create space for himself by making peace with PMLN & PPP, get all his horses aligned, and then go ahead creating the Pakistan of his dreams!! Unfortunately, nothing else will work!!
Pakistan voted for imran Khan. That's why they need to recognise him...Pakistan wants imran Khan. Full stop.
Democracy!!!!
Excellent questions Wajahat
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I don’t understand why people were thinking that Donald Lou comes forward and says he is guilty of this conspiracy or he is the culprit of regime change. There are some questions should’ve asked by congress committee or all least given them to ask but never did.
Exactly, had America ever admitted any military coups & ousting of an elected government in the past.
maa sha Allaah !
Best of luck good job good analysis of the
Nice
Imran Khan zindabad ❤
Talking to a person who think cipher was overplayed. U can easily examine his mental condition from just that statement. Ask him what if US has asked Indian chief to overthrow the elected PM, the statement would have been the same...
Wajahat, in my opinion, it is the first step towards victory.
As far as the army of Pakistan is concerned, it is completely failed professionally, legally, religiously, and morally. The same goes for Qazi and other corrupt judges.
It is Aazab-e-Ielahi for Pakistan that such corrupt Mafia is ruling the country.
I request all Pakistanis to increase their struggle. Write letters to congress members and thank them, and at the same time, bring to their knowledge the truth about the rigging of the election of Pakistan.
Salam wajh
I didn’t remembering seeing any analysts saying anything about USA forcing a foreign policy on Pakistani -
1. The USA parliamentary system was discussing if Pakistani were going to work on CEPC
2. They dictating they Pakistani can’t buy the much needed gas from iran .
3. That we can’t have foreign relations with Russia!
Can Pakistani parliamentarians discuss USA foreign policy? Then why are they controlling us .
Because you are slaves to America since your inception as a country
Great analysis
Waisy Jo b hau phli bar hau or acha hau mazah ayaa. PATA chalna chaiye k ab Dunia me awam ki suni jye na k band kamroun walun ki.
A disappointing take by the WSJ columnist. The PAK-American lobby, who have day jobs, have done incredibly well. If the US is interested in democracy and the rule of law in the region (which Imran Khan has always championed) then they must respect the will of the people and apply pressure for an election rerun / recount in response to the election rigging that has clearly taken place.
I do agree that shouting during the hearing and threatening Donald Lu (per his claims) is counter productive.
The cipher was sent by our ambassador to the foreign office. How much pressure was put upon him to renounce his story . He did not yield . What IK and Shah Mehmood Quereshi have been saying so far is reliable. These are men serving jail sentences for bogus cases built against them for Pakistan . All hail patriotic Pakistanis and may Allah keep them safe. Ameen.
We are not hopeless, waiting for re-elections in Pakistan
Fringe issue!!! That is what Pakistan is for the world.
Great debate
Ik is playing with his willpower till now n devine power with him can't b denied.
Any other ordinary person would HV done the deal n gon by now.
These people are incapable of recognizing a man of principles and a man with integrity.This is largely because today pushing interests and agendas take over , overthrowing what is left of sound sense and morality or any sense of obligation to the needs of the other country. And with a weak govt we can only wait to see who exploits us most while talking about human rights and strengthening democratic institutions. While all the time they support an army which is without its own internal checks and balances. Hurrah.
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If the US does not support the people of Pakistan in their struggle they will only make people more hostile toward the Establishment and the US. To control 25 crore people bearing the economic hardship of loan repayment may not be easy to handle.
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Right Evil Establishments🪖🤬
A very honest opinion by Mr dhume
TRUE SPEECH SIR
What about the people of Pakistan
Don’t they matter any in this great game
Most of my comments were before I heard that he was an Indian American, it all makes sense now. Why would an Indian journalist understand the cause of Pakistan or maybe was surprised at the attention the PTI and the people of Pakistan got which must have turned him off. We should go ahead with our cause. I've lived in United States for 40 years and I've only been involved in American politics, for the first time. Imran Khan gave me a reason to stand up for Pakistan and also because American politics stinks now, they are no better than the present government of Pakistan.
40 years you were sleeping and now you got an attack of morality
I think a consensus view is that following the Congressional hearing on 20/03/24 and the resolution that has been approved, let’s at least say the State Dept’s approach to blindly follow whatever is sent or fed by the US Embassy in ISL has been checked. It can no longer be the same for State Dept policy makers as they were ignoring what the people want to see. They foolishly did this in Iran, in 1979, and see how the US has suffered in that country.
Ohhh bhai patny ki bat nei hai pti yeh bol rhi hai k pakistan politics kai america ka kuch kam nei hona chahye or kyu huwa esay
Wajahat it is ALL about Imran Khan and PTI. Pakistani diaspora is involved in the struggle because we LOVE Imran Khan and PTI.
Well pti wants to try new blood, new policy
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Bravo you❤
Wajajat sb sometimes "Rolla Pe Jaana" is a success in itself
What I understood after watching this conversation. SADANAND Knows that Something big happened, but he is reluctant to accept it openly. And that is what a popular sentiment is in US establishment.
So the picture has just started.
Has PTI picked up a fight with USA, hehehe have I challenged Mike Tyson to fight? Is Pakistan sending 100 billion aid to IMF to help poor countries, hehehe......Bhikari never challenge or pick fight with super powers
I don't think it was something between PTI n US state. It was their congressmen talking about US stand on democracy in Pak. They were pointing out US is not checking n pointing out effectively according to state policy of sporting democracy. Infact they have become shamefully partner to fascism. This govt will loose popularity with no democratically supporting military. Indian r also disturbed on PTI support n nawaze n zardari types of govt they support bc they weaken pak.
Good
Will india block IMF loans to Pakistan? Esp use of loans for military expenditures
Great analysis and I totally agree. The only way Imran is going to be out is by the army men going against their chiefs. Otherwise no one is there to save Imran. Army will not go against the chiefs and so, there is no way out..
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Dhume is correct this the reality. There is no principle in international politics except the interest of own country. But unfortunately Pakistan is not a country, it is a colony of US.
At least they have an obligation to the people of the country ! We have paid a huge price in supporting US foreign policies. They claim China is like a loan shark. What about IMF and the conditions it imposes on the people of the country ! Our military and our kleptocracy with their funds in USD and off shore accounts only stand to gain and they often escape the tax net. No belt tightening measures are imposed on them. Nor is their an audit of govt servants living beyond their means and their control over resources. Their gross misuse of funds and their consistently siphoning money abroad. Why does the IMF not force them to use their ill gotten gains to help with loan repayment ?
If you assume the role of a victim you will never achieve your goals.
@@beowulfourcaucasianshepher8528 One needs to comprehend the real situation to deal with. It seems that Imran Khan had no Idea of the connections of America and Pak Army.
America has picked a fight with Pakistan
That is pro democratic move instead sadanand said anti government and pro pti move in us
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Imran Khan does not need your support as he has millions of people praying for him and supporting him and as an Indian why would you want him to come back because he is a threat to all our enemies and i do not mean in any other sense but intellectually, education and the people of Pakistan love him.
In a way, he is right, but the situation requires .
Are the protestors PTI people or diaspora ?
So basically he has a better understanding of Pakistani politics than PTI Supporters. Got it. Imran had one option to join Zardari on Feb 8th and form a government and now that is not the case.
Americans r not stupid. they will side on d right side of history. Eventually. InshaAllah
What?! C'mon!! How's this a Pakistani lobby? Its a PTI lobby!! Very unlike the other two lobbies mentioned. There's no other spin that can be put on this! Hopefully this doesn't represent PTI's belief.
Come on PTI noise on social media is just politics, Everybody knows it.
I agree with Mr Dhume that the first 48 hours were more important. Well, I strongly believe that things will not turn into favor of Imran Khan by Judiciary and other state institutions as pti people think but the only way to turn the thing upside down is street power, we need just 5% of the 24 crore on the streets with the determination that whatever happen, we will not go back home without the result and justice, shutdown businesses , industries, Block all main highways etc for indefinite period till get results.
When you call non pakistani you call sir and when Pakistani is there you call toooou or tum.
It’s called brown nosing! It’s instilled in us🤣🤣🤣