$164,000 for a tiny fridge, a tiny sink, a tiny cooktop, a wet bath and a couple of hard bench seats for a bed that you have to make, unmake and store your bedding every day is a total dealbreaker for me😩😩😩
@@lee1130fromtwitter I’ve been saying that for years👍👍👍my new 2021 MiniLite 2205S with theater seating that I paid less than $30,000 for is 10 times more comfortable and livable than this Class B van, and after the price of my 1 year old Nissan Frontier tow vehicle I had almost $100,000 left over💥💥💥
Yea, I towed a 22' travel trailer w/ a F-250 all over the country. Well, tired of it and now have a Winnebago Ekko. Soooooo, much more nimble - plan on going to Chisos basin at Big Bend in it, but could not with the travel trailer rig. But there are trade-offs. But that is just me. I think the Beyond 22C is the better option of the 3 Beyond van layouts. I
We bought our 2022 Beyond 22C Li3 (with much bigger refrigerator and separate freezer) from Becky. She saved us over $35,000 from the lowest quotes we got from 4 other dealers. We LOVE our Beyond. The Coachmen factory really stands behind its Class B RVs. 23,000 miles and getting ready for our next annual coast to coast and back RV trip. We mostly tour rather than camp.
@@lvlv1225 Just one time when we couldn’t find a spot for the night. We pulled into a Motel 6. Since 2016 snd several cross country tours, always sleep in our Class B RVs.
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Ya that's what I have planned when I get a van next year. Travel anywhere.
Thanks Becky and Matt on a great review! We love our 2020 beyond li3 22c ! 4 years old now and 57,000 miles and love the Beyond community! Nick Recchio does a great job with the b division of Coachman customer service! The Ford Transit eco boost is a beast for getting onto the interstate or climbing mountains! Enjoy our Beyond also as a daily driver .
Now for all Class B vanners...a toilet at the far back end is the best position. It is farther from the sleeping and dining area. Contamination is very minimal and has proper ventilation coz you can open the back door for immediate odor exhaust. It won't stink your bed and kitchen area like all other RV's...and they cost a lot. In this RV, you can also shower from the outside coz the shower head can be placed for outdoor bath. This is the proper well designed RV. Good engineering with hygiene priority.
I agree with Matt the outside door there should have a table or something. I think the inside the wall above the microwave should be stainless steel so you can add magnate spices or something
Always great to see Becky! I'm not a B van person, but the plus on this one is the rear bath. Definitely give it more space if you need to go in the van. Also, I like the up/ down blinds & easy screen doors, no Velcro or snaps.
I don’t know who worse, Becky or Matt, for putting your shoes on the furniture 😂!! I love watching videos with Becky in them. She’s always so funny and pleasant and she’s got such a great smile 😊! This is a great van, 🚐 I like everything about it! Great bathroom too!
Love the B’s. They’re perfect for little old me! That step and a half into the bathroom is a bit of a trip hazard, but that’s a fantastic bathroom. The door screens are outstanding too!
I love it! On the AWD Transit platform with the double tire rear axel set-up it has excellent cargo carrying capacity, and plenty of horsepower and torque. With the Lithionics package this would be something I would seriously consider buying. And it's the perfect size for parking just about anywhere. The interior layout is fantastic. I'd also ditch those four cushions, and use memory foam pillows as a backrest for the bench / beds. This rig has just about everything I would want in a small package, and I especially like that it doesn't have a cassette toilet.
Becky is one of those people that is just a delight..had to say it again. Thanks for the B info as always...bottom line is you need one in each class...B, B plus... C...A Gas, A Deisel, short and long and the Big Man Super C..spread out around the country.. lol. what I love about this one is I think the length mixed with the all wheel and dually may really help areas where the wind adds stress to driving van shapes.
I think that the fridge should swap places with the microwave. That way the fridge would be by the door and they could install a bigger size fridge. Also I agree with Matt that a drop down table could be placed on the outside wall by the side door.
Now, for me, a single person with a tiny dog, I would like the bed on one side to pull out so that it is as wide with the back cushion. That would be my depth and if the back narrow section went a little higher, I would have my sofa for day use and I would like a Luna? Table that can swivel and be positioned for my lap top. Now my being single, I want a taller refrigerator/freezer and where the little one is is my additional storage. Inlieu of the other bed, I would like more lower cabinets for my stuff.😂😂😂. I love the paper towel holder. Now, that is my dream van. Some of the cabinets can be taller on the other side if one window is not there. Back door to have a chain and hook so that I don't have to have the back door open all the way. Thank you for listening to me.
Matt, Who determines an RV MSRP? The RV industries or the RV dealerships. Is there a place on the net that tells us about vehicle MSRP? Does the dealership jack up the price of a vehicle for example by $20,000 and then give us a discount of $20,000? Thanks.
Sweet little traveler! You can take this anywhere. I Agree with Matt about the opening, there's a wall and it does nothing. If it opened further, that would even be better. I know its pricey but quality is there, functionality is there, what more do you want? I love my TT, but if it were just me, I couldn't hook it up. Becky is delightful! ❤
the translucent bathroom door is a deal breaker for me! no one wants to see the out line of there loved one pooping lol make the door opaque 🤨🤨🤨otherwise a really nice class b!
Dynapro! Hi Matt and Becky! I really like this van! Lots of likes...I love the twin beds. Lots of storage. So, here are the couple dislikes: driver side seat doesn't recline? fridge way too small. And you can't really use the bath sink as a vanity because you'd have to flip it up to use the toilet. Thanks all!
Love this Coachman Beyond! Love the windows. Love the colors. Love the slider on the bathroom. Love the blinds. Love the window coverings . What is storage like under the two beds? (I am a former owner of a Winnabago Travato, so can walk the walk.)
Becky gets embarrassed talking about pooping, it's. And everyday occurrence. And I'm glad Matt talks about it because nobody else will way to go matt 😂
Hi Matt and Becky! My dislikes are those cushion s you don’t talked about Becky. And the step up to go to the bathroom. Other than that Coachmen did a great job with this B van. My likes are the storage the shades and a trash can holder. And how spacious it seems. Love this B van. The best one I’ve seen so far.
I am considering buying a Beyond 22D Li3 for use by just my wife and I, home based in Alaska. It is/gets below freezing in late spring and early fall and I would like to use it during those times, but not during deep winter when subzero is common. I know there are class b rvs better suited for cold weather, but they almost exclusively use cassette toilets, which is a no for us. Does anyone have stories/wisdom to share about using their Beyond in freezing weather?
Things I don't like: Too many connections showing on the outside. Lets hide those better A key instead of a key fob in this day and age, really???????? Too expensive for what you get. Even with Becky's cash that's not likely going to change the price that much. Don't build the induction cook top in. For one it eats up counter space, second if it fails you would have to find the exact same size cook top. If it was portable you could just go buy another cook top. Things I like: Love the dual wheels The rear screen door I like raw interior color The quality of the cabinets
This would be a hard no for me! Everything in the van is so tiny with the exception of the bathroom in the rear. You would be much better off buying an empty ford transit van and have someone build the interior to your liking.
@@sarahann530 well u don't always have a choice of dodging branches on a roadway as you can't duck now can u 😂. I would just pick a better van that doesn't have an awning issue. 🍻
@SpykersB Why do you think the awning on this RV would cause you more trouble with branches than awnings on other RVs ? If you lack spatial awareness it is going to be an issue no matter which van you drive
For those looking at ford vans, look up timing chain clatter and how they fix it. Yea 20 years and ford still hasnt fixed this design flaw. Additionally, 164k is a bit steep in todays market. Also you know the rv manufactures are not paying msrp for this van, but i will say, ford pricing of a bare 350 van is out of control.
"Say hello to my little thing" That useless wall you disliked could have been a bigger fridge/microwave situation on the inside rather than a small counter to throw your keys on.
Likes: double handles, rear bathroom is ok, screen door, the large windows, the cabinets with the cushion, the blinds Dislikes: uncomfortable twin beds. Wouldn't be able to sit comfortably on those beds. Only 2 people would be able to travel. There is no back support on the beds. I think the lounge in the back is better for traveling from one spot to another with guests.
I’m 160 $4000 for motorhome coachman beyond with no lithium batteries and haven’t black and gray tanks if I have to pay $164,000 I’d go out and buy my own van and have a custom built to the way I want I am paying $64,000 for somebody else to design it
Love it! However , the more gadgets,the more things to fix. 😢 The creams and white pastel colors, the more surface that needs cleaning or easily get dirty. I wish for these shows to give equal time to the car aspect of the camper. A broken down engine on a camper is a sad thing. (Is there some type of warranty for the auto section?) The TV's location to swivel around will shave the head of the sitting passenger? Needs to be higher and with a longer and agile arm.. For one person like me planning to travel around alone, is too big. The price listed in the show is for the 22 and not for the 24. My personal "pep pive", the more the RV looks like an ambulance or a medical facility, the more I dislike it. 😮 I am hoping to find something smaller, practical and reliable for next year. I am a retired guy with a heart condition. I own a house (small $$ mortgage) living on social security. This would be a step up to someone that life has always been a "have to" and rarely a "like to" I just turned 61 but with the push and will of a teenager. 😊 I maybe overextending my means, hence I would need something used ,smaller, sporty, but in good condition and for the right price.😊 Please help me. I live in Jacksonville.
Love the little thing bit, made me laugh for real. why do you need a medicine closet of that size? why why why, and the "storage" on the other side? All you need is a towel. This is getting really really close to what Id buy, but take out the medicine cabinet and the cabinet on the other side and make ir a luxurious bathroom in a B class!! Id buy.
$164k for a Ford that catches fire and always breaks down?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And if I have to wait two years for it, Im just going to order a Lazy Days rv. Not all Ford's therefore much better quality.
Don't need all of those windows. Don't want a yawning. I want to live in it.... not go camping. Why bother to put a TV there? We got the internet on laptop. We can watch movies on the laptop. Reason why the vehicle is large is because of the storage and the queen size. A full size bed would be just fine. Just remove the bathroom shelves and put the shower there
$164,000 for a tiny fridge, a tiny sink, a tiny cooktop, a wet bath and a couple of hard bench seats for a bed that you have to make, unmake and store your bedding every day is a total dealbreaker for me😩😩😩
Could buy a new midsize truck. And an awesome 20-30 ft trailer and save 30k 🥴🥴🥴🥴
@@lee1130fromtwitter I’ve been saying that for years👍👍👍my new 2021 MiniLite 2205S with theater seating that I paid less than $30,000 for is 10 times more comfortable and livable than this Class B van, and after the price of my 1 year old Nissan Frontier tow vehicle I had almost $100,000 left over💥💥💥
Great points! A truck camper and truck can be had for a similar price. That said, this B van is one of the best I've seen so far.
Yea, I towed a 22' travel trailer w/ a F-250 all over the country. Well, tired of it and now have a Winnebago Ekko. Soooooo, much more nimble - plan on going to Chisos basin at Big Bend in it, but could not with the travel trailer rig. But there are trade-offs. But that is just me. I think the Beyond 22C is the better option of the 3 Beyond van layouts. I
You can buy a pretty nice Class A for that money....
This would be nice to have the microwave moved to where the fridge is and a larger fridge installed where the microwave oven is currently located.
Agreed. That kitchen looks like an afterthought.
It's so cute.
Better poop,better,better poop!
I like it wouldprefer a 60-40 pull downbed oŕ jacknife sofa for ɓetter bathroom access.
We bought our 2022 Beyond 22C Li3 (with much bigger refrigerator and separate freezer) from Becky. She saved us over $35,000 from the lowest quotes we got from 4 other dealers. We LOVE our Beyond. The Coachmen factory really stands behind its Class B RVs. 23,000 miles and getting ready for our next annual coast to coast and back RV trip. We mostly tour rather than camp.
Do you sleep in it as you tour or go to hotels a lot?
@@lvlv1225 Just one time when we couldn’t find a spot for the night. We pulled into a Motel 6. Since 2016 snd several cross country tours, always sleep in our Class B RVs.
Ya that's what I have planned when I get a van next year. Travel anywhere.
Thanks Becky and Matt on a great review! We love our 2020 beyond li3 22c ! 4 years old now and 57,000 miles and love the Beyond community! Nick Recchio does a great job with the b division of Coachman customer service! The Ford Transit eco boost is a beast for getting onto the interstate or climbing mountains! Enjoy our Beyond also as a daily driver .
Now for all Class B vanners...a toilet at the far back end is the best position. It is farther from the sleeping and dining area. Contamination is very minimal and has proper ventilation coz you can open the back door for immediate odor exhaust. It won't stink your bed and kitchen area like all other RV's...and they cost a lot. In this RV, you can also shower from the outside coz the shower head can be placed for outdoor bath. This is the proper well designed RV. Good engineering with hygiene priority.
I'm a big guy, like a 1.5 Matts, and this is one of the few B's I would consider based on that bathroom alone. Very nice.
I like how you can open the backdoors and look at the lake while you poop, superb. I do think Coachmen makes the best Class B's.
I agree with Matt the outside door there should have a table or something. I think the inside the wall above the microwave should be stainless steel so you can add magnate spices or something
Always great to see Becky! I'm not a B van person, but the plus on this one is the rear bath. Definitely give it more space if you need to go in the van. Also, I like the up/ down blinds & easy screen doors, no Velcro or snaps.
I don’t know who worse, Becky or Matt, for putting your shoes on the furniture 😂!! I love watching videos with Becky in them. She’s always so funny and pleasant and she’s got such a great smile 😊! This is a great van, 🚐 I like everything about it! Great bathroom too!
Love the B’s. They’re perfect for little old me! That step and a half into the bathroom is a bit of a trip hazard, but that’s a fantastic bathroom. The door screens are outstanding too!
I love it!
On the AWD Transit platform with the double tire rear axel set-up it has excellent cargo carrying capacity, and plenty of horsepower and torque. With the Lithionics package this would be something I would seriously consider buying. And it's the perfect size for parking just about anywhere. The interior layout is fantastic. I'd also ditch those four cushions, and use memory foam pillows as a backrest for the bench / beds. This rig has just about everything I would want in a small package, and I especially like that it doesn't have a cassette toilet.
Becky is one of those people that is just a delight..had to say it again. Thanks for the B info as always...bottom line is you need one in each class...B, B plus... C...A Gas, A Deisel, short and long and the Big Man Super C..spread out around the country.. lol. what I love about this one is I think the length mixed with the all wheel and dually may really help areas where the wind adds stress to driving van shapes.
I think that the fridge should swap places with the microwave. That way the fridge would be by the door and they could install a bigger size fridge. Also I agree with Matt that a drop down table could be placed on the outside wall by the side door.
"The Legend" is "not touching on either end"!!! Love the Legend!!!!
Now, for me, a single person with a tiny dog, I would like the bed on one side to pull out so that it is as wide with the back cushion. That would be my depth and if the back narrow section went a little higher, I would have my sofa for day use and I would like a Luna? Table that can swivel and be positioned for my lap top. Now my being single, I want a taller refrigerator/freezer and where the little one is is my additional storage. Inlieu of the other bed, I would like more lower cabinets for my stuff.😂😂😂. I love the paper towel holder. Now, that is my dream van. Some of the cabinets can be taller on the other side if one window is not there. Back door to have a chain and hook so that I don't have to have the back door open all the way. Thank you for listening to me.
164 k ??? They sell class A s for that and bplus and some c s, that u can actually stay in comfortability..
I've watched a ton of reviews on this model and honestly Matt and Becky, you.ve done the best job.
With no lithium they have to be out of their minds
I'm hooked up to electric all the time. Don't need lithium bc when I'm on the road my AGM batteries and generator suffice.
Matt, Who determines an RV MSRP? The RV industries or the RV dealerships. Is there a place on the net that tells us about vehicle MSRP? Does the dealership jack up the price of a vehicle for example by $20,000 and then give us a discount of $20,000? Thanks.
Sweet little traveler! You can take this anywhere. I Agree with Matt about the opening, there's a wall and it does nothing. If it opened further, that would even be better.
I know its pricey but quality is there, functionality is there, what more do you want? I love my TT, but if it were just me, I couldn't hook it up.
Becky is delightful! ❤
The TV should have been situated up in the center of the ceiling to be pushed up or pulled down for viewing due to the back support cushion seating.
the translucent bathroom door is a deal breaker for me! no one wants to see the out line of there loved one pooping lol make the door opaque 🤨🤨🤨otherwise a really nice class b!
What’s the sale price?? It was covered
Dynapro! Hi Matt and Becky! I really like this van! Lots of likes...I love the twin beds. Lots of storage. So, here are the couple dislikes: driver side seat doesn't recline? fridge way too small. And you can't really use the bath sink as a vanity because you'd have to flip it up to use the toilet. Thanks all!
Thank you, Matt, thank you, Becky!
Becky rocks,
Love this Coachman Beyond! Love the windows. Love the colors. Love the slider on the bathroom. Love the blinds. Love the window coverings . What is storage like under the two beds?
(I am a former owner of a Winnabago Travato, so can walk the walk.)
Love a Becky B episode!
Very nice!👍🤘💛🧡💛
Love this rv! Only two dislikes, a small refrigerator and driver side seat blocked by the counter.
I don’t like the rear bathroom layout because you lose a garage storage area. I much prefer the bathroom in the middle.
Why can't they do a normal bed with a garage under it? Who sleeps on top of those horrible cheap pads on the so-called beds?
Coachman, I need a bigger fridge.
I love it!!! The best bathroom this is a great travel van. It's a little out of my price range but? Thanks Matt and Becky!!!
Love no slides. This floor. plan works. A little short on storage, but it could still work. Where was the generator?
Becky gets embarrassed talking about pooping, it's. And everyday occurrence. And I'm glad Matt talks about it because nobody else will way to go matt 😂
Nothing wrong with being demure and polite.
Hi Matt and Becky! My dislikes are those cushion s you don’t talked about Becky. And the step up to go to the bathroom. Other than that Coachmen did a great job with this B van. My likes are the storage the shades and a trash can holder. And how spacious it seems. Love this B van. The best one I’ve seen so far.
I like the bathroom in the back but I’d worry about the wood in there with all the wetness.
This is my favorite layout.
I am considering buying a Beyond 22D Li3 for use by just my wife and I, home based in Alaska. It is/gets below freezing in late spring and early fall and I would like to use it during those times, but not during deep winter when subzero is common. I know there are class b rvs better suited for cold weather, but they almost exclusively use cassette toilets, which is a no for us. Does anyone have stories/wisdom to share about using their Beyond in freezing weather?
That lagoon table needs to be a LOT bigger!
Love our 2021 22C! The fridge and freezer are much bigger than this one. I’d rather have this screen door though. Ours collapses way too easily.
Put a microphone on Becky next time so we can hear her better!
Love the blinds! They should be in ALL RV’s.
I really love Class B RVs, especially the Travato
If Becky comes with the deal, Im ln!
Does this have adaptive cruise and lane keep assist?
I wish my husband and I had gone with van so we could stay on street or in parking lot. Can I'll afford campgrounds
Things I don't like:
Too many connections showing on the outside. Lets hide those better
A key instead of a key fob in this day and age, really????????
Too expensive for what you get. Even with Becky's cash that's not likely going to change the price that much.
Don't build the induction cook top in. For one it eats up counter space, second if it fails you would have to find the exact same size cook top. If it was portable you could just go buy another cook top.
Things I like:
Love the dual wheels
The rear screen door
I like raw interior color
The quality of the cabinets
crazy me. I thought it was April 9th, not Jan 9th
We met you Becky in Ocala. You were very nice. This Van does look pretty good.
wish it had a regular rv door vs the slider
This would be a hard no for me! Everything in the van is so tiny with the exception of the bathroom in the rear. You would be much better off buying an empty ford transit van and have someone build the interior to your liking.
That awning is a branch grabber for sure 😱. 🍻
You can delete the awning if you feel unable to avoid branches
@@sarahann530 well u don't always have a choice of dodging branches on a roadway as you can't duck now can u 😂. I would just pick a better van that doesn't have an awning issue. 🍻
@SpykersB Why do you think the awning on this RV would cause you more trouble with branches than awnings on other RVs ? If you lack spatial awareness it is going to be an issue no matter which van you drive
@@sarahann530 r u dense? Open your eyes. I know u think you're smarter than a fifth grader 😂.
For those looking at ford vans, look up timing chain clatter and how they fix it. Yea 20 years and ford still hasnt fixed this design flaw. Additionally, 164k is a bit steep in todays market. Also you know the rv manufactures are not paying msrp for this van, but i will say, ford pricing of a bare 350 van is out of control.
so a man could never fit in there how does the steam go out - it there an exhaust fan at the top of the van by the solar?
It would be great if the seats/beds were made of memory foam especially for that price.
"Say hello to my little thing" That useless wall you disliked could have been a bigger fridge/microwave situation on the inside rather than a small counter to throw your keys on.
How much
Was that a coax cable? From 1993?
Have the option where you can have it on a Transit or Mercedes chassis.
164k is too much money. I’ll give you 50k maybe.
It is way way too expensive for me, too, though. I shall dream on.
It got the triple P
Wow
She’s cool!
Does the steering wheel extend? That is unacceptable at knee level
Likes: double handles, rear bathroom is ok, screen door, the large windows, the cabinets with the cushion, the blinds Dislikes: uncomfortable twin beds. Wouldn't be able to sit comfortably on those beds. Only 2 people would be able to travel. There is no back support on the beds. I think the lounge in the back is better for traveling from one spot to another with guests.
But the one we have fits 8 so are family can come too
I want the C sooooo bad.
Way too expensive!
You never let people know, How much does it cost! for these to buy????? I want to know
you must not watch the whole video... I say the MSRP and Sale Price
I’m 160 $4000 for motorhome coachman beyond with no lithium batteries and haven’t black and gray tanks if I have to pay $164,000 I’d go out and buy my own van and have a custom built to the way I want I am paying $64,000 for somebody else to design it
Ford doesn't know how to mount tires?
For this amount of money you can get a class A Entegra vision Or Jayco Perception.
Matt can you review Noovo Plus
Someone needs to tell manufacturers gray is out
Love it! However , the more gadgets,the more things to fix. 😢 The creams and white pastel colors, the more surface that needs cleaning or easily get dirty. I wish for these shows to give equal time to the car aspect of the camper. A broken down engine on a camper is a sad thing. (Is there some type of warranty for the auto section?) The TV's location to swivel around will shave the head of the sitting passenger? Needs to be higher and with a longer and agile arm.. For one person like me planning to travel around alone, is too big. The price listed in the show is for the 22 and not for the 24. My personal "pep pive", the more the RV looks like an ambulance or a medical facility, the more I dislike it. 😮
I am hoping to find something smaller, practical and reliable for next year. I am a retired guy with a heart condition. I own a house (small $$ mortgage) living on social security. This would be a step up to someone that life has always been a "have to" and rarely a "like to" I just turned 61 but with the push and will of a teenager. 😊 I maybe overextending my means, hence I would need something used ,smaller, sporty, but in good condition and for the right price.😊 Please help me. I live in Jacksonville.
Hi Becky B.
Spendy. For what? Looks like WWII Army Tank!
Love the little thing bit, made me laugh for real.
why do you need a medicine closet of that size? why why why, and the "storage" on the other side? All you need is a towel. This is getting really really close to what Id buy, but take out the medicine cabinet and the cabinet on the other side and make ir a luxurious bathroom in a B class!! Id buy.
How many ways can you say overpriced?
Bathrooms are overrated. In my van full time 8 months, if you workout at a YMCA or gym 👍 camping toilet and bag goes in garbage with diapers
$164k for a Ford that catches fire and always breaks down?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And if I have to wait two years for it, Im just going to order a Lazy Days rv. Not all Ford's therefore much better quality.
4:30 ayoo???!
I am looking to buy. But your jumping gimmick cost you my even looking at your ad.
You meet some interesting people matt shes a zinger for sure
Jan 9 my bd❤
Don't need all of those windows. Don't want a yawning. I want to live in it.... not go camping. Why bother to put a TV there? We got the internet on laptop. We can watch movies on the laptop. Reason why the vehicle is large is because of the storage and the queen size. A full size bed would be just fine. Just remove the bathroom shelves and put the shower there
It’s nice, but more priced like a house 20 years ago. Nice van, sad price. Sign of the times. Maybe worth it about 90k, but 169k, too much.
it's a van
No thanks for this one!
I find it weird that I also care about Pime poop position 😅
That gut is such a little smart ass .
Very odd "smile". Who shows that much bottem teeth while smiling...
I can't get past these two yeech
For God sakes when does your co-hosts get their own microphone? You've been doing this way too long to have lousy sound quality.
To small on refrigerator
Terrible presentation by the guy: interruptions for phone calls, diverting to a Seque rider, very disjointed presentation.
Ridiculously overpriced.
That is not a HUGE bathroom. It’s no bigger than any other rear bath class B.