I find it interesting that the bridge in 3:20 has space for track duplication. When I took a train myself to upfield, I saw that there was plenty of available land to duplicate the tracks. I guess Upfield duplication is relatively low priority, but if they want to consider re-connecting Upfield to Cragieburn they have to get started sometime or later.
Never knew that the signals on the Upfield line were so spaced apart! Partially makes it's poor frequency make sense. Also I saw a platform camera display shutter rise at 16:35 , my life has been fufilled.
@@j_y_ It probably remains single track because there is not the demand for more frequent services at any time. Terminating some trains at the end of the double track could handle any need for more frequent headways down the line.
So do I. Not long ago another commenter told me that some person living near the railway line complained about the loudness of those horns. Allegedly tests showed that their sound output was TOO SOFT, which is hard to believe, and consequently they were replaced with the boring standard whistle of today.
@@JuliansTrainsandGames I can’t say I heard any door sounds at that point, but the driver was honing his skills using the Westinghouse airbrakes and you may have heard the hiss of air from that.
@@KevinBalaam there are many double track foot crossing on most Melbourne lines already so I don’t see any problem here. As I said to another commenter, I can’t imagine there is any need for double track to give more peak trains.
@@danielwong9626 On a line with level crossings, these are always controlled by a signal box somewhere. In previous times every station or two had a signal box and certainly on the Upfield line until comparatively recent years each level crossing had a signal box or a gatekeeper. Part of saving the Upfield line was closing all those boxes, with the signals and gates now being controlled probably from Metrol in Melbourne. So when it was time to go, the distant signal box would have brought the gates down and cleared the signal.
When was this filmed?. I like to often swing by the station on the way home from work at the airport and switch off from it and watch the trains come in and out
Next time when i visit Melbourne i will take a train from Coburg station and will be in under 30 minutes in the CBD. With a plane it takes about 22 hours.😉
@@magicbrowntrout Yes that’s right. There is a finite number of train lines in Melbourne, and just about all of them have been covered in daylight, so it’s either night view or nothing. Changes such as Skyrail of course merit a new video.
@ Where do you think all the money is coming from for that? I have heard that the Victorian government has an enormous debt, and if the Labor party is as unpopular as some people claim, it will be out on its ear like in Queensland recently. And you can be certain that Skyrail be one of the first Liberal cuts.
@@tressteleg1 I asked my wife 5 years ago when Dan Andrews got the money, for all of this level crossing removals. Now, look at this moment, Victoria is broke (I'm not Victorian). Labor party only do these parts of the project, bit by bit. I don't like the new Suburban Loop Rail project. Too expensive. And also do something about the Melbourne Airport rail project, prefer the underground way. Cheers
@ . What most people fail to realise is that these crossing removal projects do very little to assist train operation, but are a great boon for the motorists who get held up when the trains come. The random choice of crossings, as far as I know, is based on the amount of traffic that the particular road carries. Generally they do this in such a way that they don’t have to undo previous work to add the next bit. Unfortunately that’s likely to be necessary when the next bit of the Upfield line is done, presuming there is no change of government in Victoria. I’m not sure how interested the liberals would be in paying for more crossing removals. I also have my doubts about that rail loop construction. Costing billions when people don’t seem to use public transport much for radial trips. As for the airport, above the ground is always going to be cheaper and works quite well for Brisbane airport.
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Cool train video!😁
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I find it interesting that the bridge in 3:20 has space for track duplication. When I took a train myself to upfield, I saw that there was plenty of available land to duplicate the tracks. I guess Upfield duplication is relatively low priority, but if they want to consider re-connecting Upfield to Cragieburn they have to get started sometime or later.
Never knew that the signals on the Upfield line were so spaced apart! Partially makes it's poor frequency make sense. Also I saw a platform camera display shutter rise at 16:35 , my life has been fufilled.
@@j_y_ It probably remains single track because there is not the demand for more frequent services at any time. Terminating some trains at the end of the double track could handle any need for more frequent headways down the line.
Amazing!
Love your content too!
It's great to see all the Melbourne railway gunzels commenting on each other's videos!
I miss the RVB 3 Chime horns on the Metro Comeng Trains
So do I. Not long ago another commenter told me that some person living near the railway line complained about the loudness of those horns. Allegedly tests showed that their sound output was TOO SOFT, which is hard to believe, and consequently they were replaced with the boring standard whistle of today.
4:35 Alternate door sound
@@JuliansTrainsandGames I can’t say I heard any door sounds at that point, but the driver was honing his skills using the Westinghouse airbrakes and you may have heard the hiss of air from that.
No in the background you can hear the door sound.
@@JuliansTrainsandGames Okay. I can add no further to what I said before. You obviously heard something I cannot pick up.
1:13 Question to people lobbying for duplication: what do they propose happen to this pedestrian crossing (Augusta Ave)? Just add gates?
@@KevinBalaam there are many double track foot crossing on most Melbourne lines already so I don’t see any problem here. As I said to another commenter, I can’t imagine there is any need for double track to give more peak trains.
I was also curious to know before you leave upfiled station how does to boom gates get activated before the train even moves
Via Metrol.
@topher1976au what is metrol
@ train control. It used to be controlled by panel at upfield.
@@danielwong9626 On a line with level crossings, these are always controlled by a signal box somewhere. In previous times every station or two had a signal box and certainly on the Upfield line until comparatively recent years each level crossing had a signal box or a gatekeeper. Part of saving the Upfield line was closing all those boxes, with the signals and gates now being controlled probably from Metrol in Melbourne. So when it was time to go, the distant signal box would have brought the gates down and cleared the signal.
When was this filmed?. I like to often swing by the station on the way home from work at the airport and switch off from it and watch the trains come in and out
@@danielwong9626 A little over 2 years ago. Sounds like a good way to ease off after work.
Next time when i visit Melbourne i will take a train from Coburg station and will be in under 30 minutes in the CBD. With a plane it takes about 22 hours.😉
@@peterausfranken Ha ha. I know what you mean, but nobody else will, ha ha.
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is that a reference to flying your own private jet from essendon to avalon and then taking a cline to the city?
@@j_y_ ha ha, I will give you a clue. He lives in Coburg…..
In Germany!
Haha!
@@j_y_ 👍
You (tressteleg1) made a similar video from this in daylight five years ago.
@@magicbrowntrout Yes that’s right. There is a finite number of train lines in Melbourne, and just about all of them have been covered in daylight, so it’s either night view or nothing. Changes such as Skyrail of course merit a new video.
@@tressteleg1 In my opinion, the Upfield line should be above the ground all the way to Gowrie. Then continue to Roxburgh Park.
@ Where do you think all the money is coming from for that? I have heard that the Victorian government has an enormous debt, and if the Labor party is as unpopular as some people claim, it will be out on its ear like in Queensland recently. And you can be certain that Skyrail be one of the first Liberal cuts.
@@tressteleg1 I asked my wife 5 years ago when Dan Andrews got the money, for all of this level crossing removals. Now, look at this moment, Victoria is broke (I'm not Victorian). Labor party only do these parts of the project, bit by bit. I don't like the new Suburban Loop Rail project. Too expensive. And also do something about the Melbourne Airport rail project, prefer the underground way. Cheers
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. What most people fail to realise is that these crossing removal projects do very little to assist train operation, but are a great boon for the motorists who get held up when the trains come. The random choice of crossings, as far as I know, is based on the amount of traffic that the particular road carries. Generally they do this in such a way that they don’t have to undo previous work to add the next bit. Unfortunately that’s likely to be necessary when the next bit of the Upfield line is done, presuming there is no change of government in Victoria. I’m not sure how interested the liberals would be in paying for more crossing removals. I also have my doubts about that rail loop construction. Costing billions when people don’t seem to use public transport much for radial trips. As for the airport, above the ground is always going to be cheaper and works quite well for Brisbane airport.