*Context of the update:* The level that Nacho planned was going to be much better than the version that came out, but in a hurry, he decided to release the version we all know, and having been popular, he decided to leave the unfinished version as the official one. Then, when he came back with his updates as Ultimo Universo, he decided to finally finish the level he left 7 years ago *:)*
I see... that's why it felt unfinished when I'm playing the old ver. Didn't like the nerfs that he did, but I will absolutely take the better level design.
I like this update. The increase in visibility makes it less learny, and the nerfs to the first cube means the second player doesnt have to wait forever while the first player dies on it five times in a row. The nerfs to the 2 player parts are nice too, because my second player's hardest is Clubstep.
We beat this yesterday :) and i can tell you the worst part of this new update is that you have to get the keys you cant just miss them by frames you have to get them
a big part of the update was making certain sections more visible by increasing the brightness, which wouldn't show up in this video since it only uses a layout
people say asymmetrical part is nerfed but no, you can't just hold on first ship part, first wave is much tighter,in ship and wave part wave is also tighter and harder on solo.
imagine if you had to do it like this (cyan can only interact with cyan, vice versa for red) in a super buff of the level (idk maybe called Cuatro Maestro or something)
No wonder i felt like so many timings felt a bit off and especially the first ship part felt easier coming out of the corridor and into the ball. First dual feels tougher though
Apparently Nacho wasn’t happy and he wanted this level to be the best it could. This is also his most popular level and he didn’t want that representing him. Also he removed the “dedicated to AdvyStyles”
You don’t have a peanut brain, this is just like the worst macro ever, like wtf is 2:30 and 1:03, also the way this level was redone is in a way where the LeTim format does not work well
It looks like more things have changed than what's actually changed because there wasn't a lined up bot that differs only at changed parts, plus speed portals were hit in different ways. Plus inputs differed a lot. This meant the comparison wasn't lined up correctly and the camera plus player positioning causes the changes to look like they're everywhere rather than only in certain parts
I always mess up with concentration on which is old and which is new (possibly others do so too). Cyan is more visible, so why should it not show a new version?
the video looks like he added the glitch effect from 2.2 and made it like those videos where 10 people play a level at one time except it’s four for the dual part
Am I the only one who absolutely despises the new version? It's so ugly, removing the darkness absolutely destroyed the vibe of it being a hard demon. And WHY ruin the robot part with the amazing looking white spots filling up the screen? I absolutely adored that part and it was my favourite growing up. Plus so much of the level is nerfed that it doesn't feel like I'm playing the same level. When I beat this level, I'm 100% going to beat an old copy paste of the level and just hack the original level. I do not get any enjoyment out of the new version. Plus WHY the GJ jittering got removed? WHAT did that do so bad for Nacho to have to remove it? UGH. Destroyed the whole aesthetic of the level.
not sure to what expression or intensity i'd be.. but you're not the only one.. i kinda agree.. addressing the darkness issue could've been via just putting some small white shade objects around the spikes and blocks to make them more visible .. but brightening the whole background up kinda makes the orbs less glowy and cool.. it also makes the part less menacing and less darkness-cool-looking and yeah.. ig the darkness by itself kinda adds to the "hard/difficult demon" aspect too overall ig i dunno why they changed the robot part.. or some of the dual stuff for that matter.. i dunno why that first duelo asymmetric ship is different and harder for one player now..
Nah the 2.0 version was sad. Nacho21 released a half-finished version of the level in a rush. That beta version then stayed as the official level for way too long as Nacho21 didn't really have the motive/time to finish the level. Nacho21 updated and finished the level.
@@KPoWasTaken ah yes i love staring at a piss yellow ship every attempt with brick spam and all of the atmosphere taken out of the ball because everything has a white outline and the intensity taken out of the first drop because all the pulses were removed for whatever reason
I get the fact that Nacho was not satisfied, but why not just copy the level and update that? Now look at it. The text's been changed, some gameplay's been shifted by 4 GRID SPACES, and the name at the end is just a phrase now. He changed Duelo from what we know it to be. Now it's permanent. So we can no longer get back the old one unless someone uploads a copy of it to the servers. Why? “If it ain't broke, don't fix it!”
It was broke. Nacho21 literally rushed out the level before he actually finished it. He put out a beta version and then that ended up staying as the official version.
everything is shifted like half a block past a certain point in the level because speed portal placements were changed
Why mention this after the hype on the vid went down tho
@@exiled_shadegd it didnt
@@VenomousCosmo yeah I realized lol my comment went from 130 likes to 630 in the last 2 days mb
@@exiled_shadegdWhy you say stupid things
sikky needs to do a rebeat on his own
*Context of the update:*
The level that Nacho planned was going to be much better than the version that came out, but in a hurry, he decided to release the version we all know, and having been popular, he decided to leave the unfinished version as the official one. Then, when he came back with his updates as Ultimo Universo, he decided to finally finish the level he left 7 years ago *:)*
I see... that's why it felt unfinished when I'm playing the old ver. Didn't like the nerfs that he did, but I will absolutely take the better level design.
@Deathf1yerwhat are you smoking. All we see nowadays is a spam of extreme demons that never have personality nor get finished
@Deathf1yerbut that’s not fun 💀💀 why play a game to rage? Just do whats easier to enjoy it
@Deathf1yerhave you acctually beat an extreme demon from the main demonlist?
@@DrChris1i think the more u rage in the progress, the more satisfaction u get from actually beat the level
The best part of this update imo is the fact that Nacho removed the “dedicated to AdvyStyles” from the level
it was removed a long time ago. Even in the previous version, it was long gone in his "Dedicado a" list.
@@Enter8909 oh okay, well the main thing is he removed it
Advt styles is a fukin weirdo
better than adding an advyout since like do that on a social media not on a level(my opinion)
Harry Potter y el misterio de por qué odian tanto a Guitar
I like this update. The increase in visibility makes it less learny, and the nerfs to the first cube means the second player doesnt have to wait forever while the first player dies on it five times in a row. The nerfs to the 2 player parts are nice too, because my second player's hardest is Clubstep.
or just play with 2 hands
@@greenytoasterain't nobody doing that
@@helomeplea you can find out otherwise by doing the simple task of looking it up
@@greenytoaster your brain is very smooth
@@LukeTCC how?
We beat this yesterday :) and i can tell you the worst part of this new update is that you have to get the keys you cant just miss them by frames you have to get them
Solo?
@@ideac. no I did the first 60% then my friend joined because I'm not learning the second dual solo
@@mushylovergd9174i beat this recently it’s surprisingly not that hard to learn and get good at
@@GeckoGD i play on mobile so theres another reason
@@mushylovergd9174 ah that sounds hard to do w/ 2 people ngl, i was originally doing it on mobile before i updated ios preventing me from launching gd
Why
WHY IS EVERYTHING SHIFTED IM CONFUSED
probably to fix sync or smth, its still unnecessary asf
@@F5Astroninenacho explained in his vid
Speed portal changes
@@THEL05 oh yeah, like rotated back and scaled back to 1x size
Nice, this shows the difficulty as great as layout version of Codependence
That was trippy. Also its so weird that this old level got an out of nowhere outdate... I wonder if the level is harder/easier?
It’s definitely easier. But it’s still an insanely hard feat, especially if you’re beating it solo.
@@miloyall Yeah. I still cant get past the first robot tbh. And I hate 2 players levels because on mobile your fingers take up most of the screen :(
Duals got some buff and the rest some nerfs
@@sgjoyder2890 Why cant duals just be easy? :(
@@MarioLuigiAndJr. Nacho did that to keep the difficulty mostly in the duals.
In my opinion, the new version is a bit nerfed. But it still hard
yeah, it was rebalanced to make the level more fun
@@fernbernbertomg every lvl might aswell be an easy demon then LOL
@@radar_the_fox dude just said balanced = easy are you kidding me
@@greenytoasterbros hardest level is a medium demon problu
@@greenytoasterradar_the_fox moment
0:24 1 player
1:34 2 players
2:50 3 players
2:29 4 players
Having 4 icons on screen at once is really triply and it hurts my brain
Is it just me or does most of the "update" looks likes part of levels were just shifted in different directions
thats part of it
a big part of the update was making certain sections more visible by increasing the brightness, which wouldn't show up in this video since it only uses a layout
The shifted placement is for improved sync
new double dual mode looking crazy
Imagine learning the drop asymetrico dual wave from this vid
That would be hard because the e macros are pretty misaligned and same with the ground
new dual section IS FIRE
Finally, I’ve been waiting for this video
Imagine watching this with 3d glasses 💀
WHAT THE JINGLE?!?!?!?!
Why this update? but now we can say that this is insane demon or still extreme, that's the question xd
@@noahcheng1895if played solo, it’s extreme, however 2 people who have beaten extremes might find this hard demon difficulty
@@noahcheng1895beat it solo then
Prob insane if with another person but extreme with just urself
@@johnmanreza4320 my friend who plays 2p solo on his cell phone says that this update nerfed insane demon ._.
Always has been insane
people say asymmetrical part is nerfed but no, you can't just hold on first ship part, first wave is much tighter,in ship and wave part wave is also tighter and harder on solo.
The wave in duel asymmetrical is so chaotic lol
what why
nacho has a video on it
Why not
this is the most hard to follow comparison ever
Yeah because the level is shift plus his macros barely align ever
Early 2.2 NC levels be like: 2:30
Nobody :
Him : Plays quadro maestro
Bassically 60% - 100% is harder than before
Kind of sad 😢
this was a mess to look at
Yeah the entire level was shifted and the macros don’t match at all unlike in LeTim’s videos
imagine if you had to do it like this (cyan can only interact with cyan, vice versa for red) in a super buff of the level (idk maybe called Cuatro Maestro or something)
No wonder i felt like so many timings felt a bit off and especially the first ship part felt easier coming out of the corridor and into the ball. First dual feels tougher though
Which is harder?
I think maybe old
new version harder
@@mxximtnz ok
New version slightly buffs the duals but it nerfs some of the solo parts and adds visibility.
Easier imo
@@zingerx2554 Ok
Is this a buff or nerf I can’t tell
Neither, just an update
buff, there are more spikes in the predrop and in the last dual the bottom player has more participation than just doing nothing lol
The solo parts have massive nerfs.
my friend and I are going through duels maestro be like:
bro invented the quad mode
Yeah, I can't understand anything going on here :)
I never understand what's the point on update a legendary old level after like 7 years
Apparently Nacho wasn’t happy and he wanted this level to be the best it could. This is also his most popular level and he didn’t want that representing him. Also he removed the “dedicated to AdvyStyles”
@@exiled_shadegdW nacho
@@Sedna_. Guitar situation? He got exposed for being a predator?
imagine a possible version of the 2 versions mixed together
If this video are an level, it's list demon.
This video looks like quadro maestro
my peanut brain cannot proccess the amount of things that have been changed
You don’t have a peanut brain, this is just like the worst macro ever, like wtf is 2:30 and 1:03, also the way this level was redone is in a way where the LeTim format does not work well
It looks like more things have changed than what's actually changed because there wasn't a lined up bot that differs only at changed parts, plus speed portals were hit in different ways. Plus inputs differed a lot. This meant the comparison wasn't lined up correctly and the camera plus player positioning causes the changes to look like they're everywhere rather than only in certain parts
@@KPoWasTaken true but my brain still can't understand anything, theres too many different parts that look like they changed
I forgot my 3D glasses
honestly I wanna know whether the new update nerfed or buffed the level cause it looks nerfed
nerfed
Nerfed first part of the level cuz imagine being player 2 waiting for player 1 to complete that part. But duals (simetrical and asimetrical) buffed.
I always mess up with concentration on which is old and which is new (possibly others do so too). Cyan is more visible, so why should it not show a new version?
I think it’s because this comparison series started with unnerfed vs nerfed, where the color choice makes more sense
QUAD PORTAL REAVEAL?!?!??11!
did they ever fix the bug at around 0:33 ball part where the ball randomly goes to normal gravity??
yes, or at least that's one of the main reasons for the update
They update for the beat right?
He updated it because he was not satisfied with a weirdly decorated 2.0 level to be his best and most popular one.
How it feels to record the entire level 2 times and with 2 players controls?
it pains me how you did the symetrical ufo
Use the same macro for both versions please 😭😭
You can't do that, the new version shifts things so its impossible
@@GDBonboneven the parts that are the same don’t match up 😭
My eyes while watching this: 🟦🟥🟦🟥🟦🟥🟦🟥🟦🟥🟦🟥🟦🟥
the video looks like he added the glitch effect from 2.2 and made it like those videos where 10 people play a level at one time except it’s four for the dual part
interesting mechanics
It looks nerfed and buffed
4 player gamemode real?
Un maestro del duelo xd
My eyes hurt
Bro everything got shifted a block
why?
Mulpans worst nightmare
2:29 looks like the stock market
They didn't have to nerf it tho💔
1:07 2.3 BELIKE💀💀☠️☠️💀☠️💀
I need a 3d glasses for see the video?
el blanco se comparte entre ambos
quadruple maestro
Watch this with 3d glasses
Thank god i didnt pick it up...
Found LeTim's brother
Cosmo is a group of people
Now wear 3d glasses!
Epilepsy speedrun
1:13 geometry 4players dual
Музыка такая буд-то каробас пердит
Am I the only one who absolutely despises the new version? It's so ugly, removing the darkness absolutely destroyed the vibe of it being a hard demon. And WHY ruin the robot part with the amazing looking white spots filling up the screen? I absolutely adored that part and it was my favourite growing up. Plus so much of the level is nerfed that it doesn't feel like I'm playing the same level. When I beat this level, I'm 100% going to beat an old copy paste of the level and just hack the original level. I do not get any enjoyment out of the new version. Plus WHY the GJ jittering got removed? WHAT did that do so bad for Nacho to have to remove it? UGH. Destroyed the whole aesthetic of the level.
not sure to what expression or intensity i'd be.. but you're not the only one..
i kinda agree..
addressing the darkness issue could've been via just putting some small white shade objects around the spikes and blocks to make them more visible .. but brightening the whole background up kinda makes the orbs less glowy and cool.. it also makes the part less menacing and less darkness-cool-looking
and yeah.. ig the darkness by itself kinda adds to the "hard/difficult demon" aspect too overall ig
i dunno why they changed the robot part..
or some of the dual stuff for that matter..
i dunno why that first duelo asymmetric ship is different and harder for one player now..
Well the new version has harder duals but of course the beginning is a bit easier now
tik tok duelo maestro
1:43 looks like toothpaste
2:30 MAZE
all i see is color
Bro rebalanced the entire thing 💀
double duelo maesto
Versus mode be like :
Versus be like:
Duels maestro got nerfed
допустим...
Me: WHATS WHITE
tiktok simulator
MERICA
Sad that it got updated, it didn't deserved to be
why? Its still the same level
Nah the 2.0 version was sad. Nacho21 released a half-finished version of the level in a rush. That beta version then stayed as the official level for way too long as Nacho21 didn't really have the motive/time to finish the level. Nacho21 updated and finished the level.
@@filispeed_0111 no lol the new version is terrible
@@atomikaI why you people love to overreact?
@@filispeed_0111 you clearly havent played it before and after the level is kind of ruined now lol
Why lmao
quadrepet mod
Old solos
genuinely one of the worst level updates ever. Cannot stress enough how much worse the new gameplay and deco is 😭
this is a layout
The deco is so much better, what are you on? Gameplay I can understand but deco? You have serious nostalgia bias that you decide any change is bad.
@@KPoWasTaken ah yes i love staring at a piss yellow ship every attempt with brick spam and all of the atmosphere taken out of the ball because everything has a white outline and the intensity taken out of the first drop because all the pulses were removed for whatever reason
Why does he take the goofiest routes possible 2:42
😭😭😭😭
I knew it
Another level ruined by the gd nerf babies crowd
"Ruined" lmao you're the one acting like a baby
Как же оно слетает
I forgot how cancer this song was.
I get the fact that Nacho was not satisfied, but why not just copy the level and update that? Now look at it. The text's been changed, some gameplay's been shifted by 4 GRID SPACES, and the name at the end is just a phrase now. He changed Duelo from what we know it to be. Now it's permanent. So we can no longer get back the old one unless someone uploads a copy of it to the servers. Why? “If it ain't broke, don't fix it!”
I love the fact that you think there arent 100000 copies of duelo maestro out there lmao
@@hellphinI do.
it was broken for him. its not about all of you lmfao
It was broke. Nacho21 literally rushed out the level before he actually finished it. He put out a beta version and then that ended up staying as the official version.
The update nobody asked for, nobobofy needed and nobody deserved
Love it or hate it, it’s better!
why is it sm easier
Por la iluminación, es mucho más visible el nivel en la nueva actualización, además de que se nerfeo el inicio antes de la primera nave