It's quite unfortunate you guys don't recognize the utility of this training. These techniques are associated with the unofficial, unspoken, unwritten, unheard of yet unquestioned maxim among super cave divers; leave every man behind. These techniques are superb for maintaining distance from, and subduing, distressed divers seeking aid to expedite their demise. That behind the back arm submission, for example, is meant to facilitate aspiration (faster drowning). But the techniques on display here are frankly entry level. As you progress in the training you learn much more advanced techniques, like how to blind the distressed diver/swimmer with your flashlight, while you unholster your spear gun and shoot them in the head. Or feigning to render aid to get close enough to stab them in the carotid (a personal favorite). But that's really advanced stuff, reserved only for those able to discern distress in its most nascent stages, sometimes even before the diver/swimmer that's in distress. Because ultimately only one thing matters. #1, i.e., me. Daddy's coming home.
I dont think these guys even realize how big of a podcast they could have on there hands and not only about diving but they know intersting people with great storys and they can talk about more then just diving they are funning entertaining and fun to watch. They just have that thing that makes you want to listen to them
Alright I know I'm a little late to this video but I was a lifeguard for 6 years and taught lifeguarding for 3 years. But these are not techniques that are taught at all. This is absurd. There is certain things that you use to control those in need and in panic. This is mind blowing. Im at a loss for words! Im glad you guys went ahead and talked to people who have experience. Just wow!!!
@@DIVETALK lol luckily for yas he's a good dude too and he knows how to take a joke lol. Now I'm sure if you just talked a bunch of shit to his face he might throw a head kick knocking you into timbucktooo lol.
It has been many years since I was lifeguard certified, but we were never taught anything like that. People who are truly panicking are not going to instantly calm down with an arm bar especially if they were just kicked and pulled under by the person who is supposedly saving them.
Was an ocean lifeguard for 7 years. Drowning victims don’t kick you away when they panic. They lunge and grab you and instinctively will push you down. They train you to stop a few yards from the victim and put your floatation device (the big plastic torpedo looking things) between you and the victim. One time I had a big guy, probably 280-300 lbs. and he grabbed my arm and I saw the panic in his eyes, honestly horrifying. I started getting pushed under, so I slammed my floatation device into his sternum to get him to let go. Then let him float with it for a bit til he calmed down.
As a kid I did many years of lifeguard training and I actually DO remember some self defense techniques. They are needed in case of a nearly drowned panicking person, because they naturally try everything to get their head as far out of the water as possible, so they would try to push themselves up on your body. Tho, the only kind of right technique the guy showed, was the arm behind the back, because you need to be in physical control over the panicking person so you can force him horizontal, which makes him float and you can drag him through the water very easy. You would use the same arm-behind-the-back-technique to drag a passed out person, while having your other hand under their chin to support the head. Nevertheless this guy even did that move wrong, because you would never do it in such sharp moves, it's rather a smooth controlled motion, without pulling the victim under water. Needless to say, you would never push, punch or kick a drowning person.
When I was a teenager my brother and I used to play "victims" for my sister's lifeguard class (she was the instructor). My brother use to go all out with his struggling and being very unrealistic. My sister repeatedly told him to calm it down, but he wouldn't listen. During one drill an older woman was tasked to rescue him. She swam up to him and before he could get into his routine, his eyes suddenly got wide, he gasped and went very still. She had grabbed him by the balls and asked sweetly " Are you going to calm down now?". We are now in our 50's and it's still one of the best family stories ever.
UA-cam algorithm brought me to your channel from a MrBallen video and I've been hooked ever since 😅 Who would have thought dive talk would be so interesting and informative! Great content guys! Loving the reactions 😁
Woody: I think we should try this Gus. We can get some old jet skis and I know someone who has access to anti tank weapons…… Gus: No, no, no I love Woody’s sense of adventure and Gus is hilarious! How long did it take you to find these clips? This was a lot of fun and well done. Thanks guys!
I absolutely love this channel. I've never dived, don't really have any interesting learning but your content is fascinating. Your personalities, the dynamic, the reactions, how y'all are always mindful and explain terms that the non divers don't understand. Its grrat!
As a former lifeguard from way back when.. it seems like this guy is teaching a strange interpretation of some holds and releases of yesteryear. There were techniques that when a victim would lunge you could grab and gain control then keeping the victims head ABOVE the water bring them to shore. There were also a number of escape techniques when grabbed by panic victims. All of these techniques could get quite evolved and complicated and belive the modern training model is more simplified and focused more on safe approaches using flotation etc. As for the double kick to the chest.... ass*ole. Great channel guys.
weird, the only one that I was taught that is in the video is the push kick to the chest, not a hard kick, but just something to create/maintain distance.
Next month, the Turkish instructor has a video of him teaching an Emergency First Responder class where he performs actual tracheotomies on his students with a dull pen knife and a Bic pen. Just when you think it can't get worse....
When I redid my rescue course it was with instructors and DM’s I was used to working with so they obviously took the piss a bit. But one of the best things I learnt for getting a hold of a panicking diver on the surface…was to approach from underwater. So if you try to get behind them and they spin trying to keep an eye on you, viewing you as a human Island to climb, just submerge and get behind them underwater and then come up. A panicking diver scared of drowning will NOT try to chase you if you go underwater.
Right on Woody! I also did american karate for about 10 years. It really changed my mindset which benefits me to this day. You have a very calm personality and maybe that why. Karate made me a very calm person... 98% of the time lol Edit: I bet that instructor is the same guy in the stress training video ripping off people's masks.
Great video, Gus, Woody & Christian! Really hope the Turkish instructor takes you up on that invite... It'll be great learning experience and save him a future of class action lawsuits :-)
I know I’m late to the party here, but the threats from that instructor are completely toothless. You have every right to use footage from another video if you’re creating transformative content with it. That’s what fair use is. A certain popular UA-camr has fought this fight in court and won (and now is successfully fighting the same fight again). Your right to react has legal precedent. Keep doing your thing, guys. Awesome content.
I'm not a cave diver, but I was a lifeguard. Yes, we undergo extensive panic training because a panicked victim is superhuman strong and can EASILY drown you if you don't know what you're doing.
I suppose I should add that experienced lifeguards have no problem laying the Smackdown on a panicked victim in order to save his or her life....better bruised than dead.
This guy is crazy. Having worked as a life guard, doing rescues without a floatation device like a tube or a board is very dangerous. panicked drowning victim will often climb on top of you and start drowning you. In that case you need to create distance, however this is absolutely not how do do it. I was taught to take a deep breath and dive underwater. It’s the last place the drowning victim wants to be. And from experience it’s always worked for me.
He's teaching them how to subdue a very panicked person in a situation where you don't have a floatation device, and don't have time to go underwater. Stunning a person who's panicking and bigger and stronger than you and trying to grab you so you can get them into position where you control them in the rescue position, can save your and their life.
As someone who has never been scuba diving, and knows next to nothing about it, I’ve found your channel to be very enlightening. I’ve heard of “atmospheres” regarding water but I never realized just how dangerous it can be for the human body. When you guys talk about 120-130 feet being 4 atmospheres I was dumbfounded! I was thinking man that’s not even that far! How can it be that dangerous?! Now I’m hooked and learning about the sport even though I’ll never do it. Maybe 10-15 feet in open water just to check it out but that’s it. I have asthma and sinus problems so I don’t think diving is for me lol. Thanks for bringing us along on these journeys! 👍
I have asthma and sinus problems, and my doctor told my Mom when I was a kid, “Here’s an inhaler. Put it on the side of the pool, and make her go to swimming lessons everyday. If she has an asthma attack, make her take a couple of puffs, and then get back to swimming. She’ll grown out of it if you do this.” And he was right. I still have asthma, but I have so few asthma attacks. One every to 5 years usually during allergy season when the pollen is crazy or if I get around a cat indoors. If you can go swimming and get strong, you could probably go diving. The more I swim, the better my lungs get.
The crazy part about the Turkish diving instructor, most of his comments are complimenting him and he doesn't get too many dislikes. I wondered if he just deletes comments until I saw his like ratio...Just crazy, maybe the laws in Turkey are non-existent as far as being an instructor, but at least he makes you guys look flawless lol
Hello Dive Talk first of all congratulate you for the excellent videos you make and the information you give I was almost 7 years to take the Open Water course after having a ruptured eardrum, because of your videos I decided to take the course, on July 25th I'll have the final exam at sea :) :) :) Wish me luck
Look, we already have the most realistic underwater fighting video ever in this channel, and the title is "the worst scuba instructor ever in the world". If I want one man to assassinate an entire submarine's worth of divers, it will be him.
@@DIVETALK Holy, I had no idea how close to the mark I was with my joke. At this point I'm actually inclined to believe that this guy instructor is military-trained, and his lifeguard rescue skill is really his "knock out your opponent in the shortest time possible before kidnapping them" skill.
That second clip of the marine with guns was actually the guy in the 1st clip dreaming about his ideal day at work with his lifeguard firearms for dealing with swimmers 😆
jiu jitsu: the art of folding clothes with people still in them Love your videos! I have no idea about anything to do with diving but I am always so entertained.
O.k. Y'all got me with this one- subbed. I laughed until I bout cried- then read the comment y'all pinned and was just rolling. I needed that- badly, thank all you guys.
That guy is like a lil kid being like " Mooom watch my frikn mega cool drop-kick into helpless scared looking woman" Boooom! Next one- punch to the throat RIP! Next one... lol Best training ever
Absolutely love this channel! I've been a lifeguard for 2 years now but never thought about diving but these videos have inspired me to get my diving certifications! Keep up the great work fellas!!
I wonder if he is working in a place with a lot of aggressive drunks? I'm a paramedic, and we get a shocking number of drunk and combative patients. We take a mandatory class every couple of years in which we actually practice some escapes, and even a kick, on the mats. It's all intended to be used for self-defense, of course, but the two-day class covers all aspects of dealing with the aggressive patient, from documentation and justifiable force, to escaping chokes and grapple-holds. I can definitely imagine some life-guards who work on certain beaches, dealing with some pretty violent drunks. Then again, I'm land-locked in the Midwest, so what do I know?
I cannot express my disappointment in this "instructor" guy enough. I have been in the ocean, in a situation, when someone had a full blown freak-out session, because a rip current had started to pull a mother and daughter deeper into the ocean from hip depth. The sheer terror that overcame her, made her push her daughter underwater just to stay "above". Imagine what would happen if you purposefully push a person like that underwater. As an untrained person, me and my friend saw what was happening, split them up and kept them calm un-till we could swim out, without violence.
I had an instructor like this for a Water Safety Instructor course. Half of the class was in-water wresting stuff like this. It was ridiculous but actually a lot of fun. The final was having to fight the instructor and he was this super intense, wiry, 60+ year old German dude with a flat top haircut...like Klaus from Team Zissou.
Played the underwater soccer game a few times for physical training (PT). We had a Commanding Officer (CO) ,LtCol Harper, who was doing a command visit, so we invited him to come to our PT session. This guy ended up being the biggest baby cause he got his butt kicked, kept saying we were changing the rules, cheating, etc. We had a pre-brief to go over everything to include all the rules before we even got in the water. This guy just didn't listen and was the type to have to win at everything, and was used to everyone letting him win because he was the "boss". Not that day, his team was losing very badly and he decided the PT session was over and quit. That guy really showed his character that day. When it was time to PCS, I was glad to have left his command.
The Donald Cerrone School of Underwater Combat Lifeguarding By the way, I want to send Woody a lifetime supply of coffee, as long as he promises to drink it in time to react to a video, for maximum interruption! (Please don’t let Gus ban me for it!)
Helen here - whoopee what a treat!. You boys just get better..... I'm subscriber 231, I think 🤔 tho how anyone got to you before I don't know. Such an interesting guest, Chris. Lovely and modest.,like most good divers xx
Yesssss!!! More videos! I love you both and thank you for uploading ! These videos and your comments are literally the highlight of my day!! Thank you dudes
Ellis and Associates lifeguard here with 5 years experience. That instructor is teaching a hyper-aggressive and unnecessary form of escapes. Each if those scenarios we're taught to either push ourselves DOWN and AWAY from the victim and let them tire out before rendering aid OR grab around their chest and roll them to where WE are in a Controlling position. You would NEVER push someone head underwater like that. The guy also tried to do a jaw thrust one handed while his person in distress' head was underwater lol
Binging more of your videos today. Even watched some I have already watched. I loved your commentary on all of these. The bride video did me in. Thanks for the laughs.
this is why i love you guys, even tho you have many reasons to be totally bias against this guy because of your last video on him and his response. but you guys always give people the credit they actually deserve (or don’t deserve) regardless of your personal opinion on them :) nothing i love more then seeing the notification that you guys have posted and then seeing it’s almost an hour long react video!!!
People keep asking for us to make them shorter but we can't! When we record these they feel like they are 8 minutes long and they end up being like an hour long.
@@DIVETALK i LOVE the long videos, also i can’t imagine how long the video would have been if you weren’t forced to remove the last 2 clips!! it’s good to have some short videos but i binged ALL your react videos in the first 2 days i found your channel 😂 having the long videos gives me a challenge :D love the content !!
Please don't do away with the long videos. People are going to complain either way, but your best content is going to be when you show genuine reactions/footage. An even mix is your best bet. I love the long videos.
@@confusedpenguin6933 totally agree, PLUS the way they do their videos, someone could totally find a pause or a shift in topic where you could easily take a break in watching the video if they don’t want to watch the video all the way through and then just come back and finish it later!
In the BSA Guard and Red Cross classes I've taken and taught, a sign of drowning is no/poor forward progress. They wont be front crawling towards you like that. But they will lunge and drag as you approach. That's why reaching with your buoy or anything else is much preferred. The "grappling" is when you grab their wrist to turn and drag them onto your buoy then switch to a cross chest hold so you can tow them. Even then, you never drag them underwater or try to restrain them like that. Absurd.
Pushing (not kicking) a panicking victim away with your leg is a legitimate lifeguard technique to protect yourself. You would want to reapproach them from behind and hook under the arms. The armbars and chokes not so much. This guy is something else.
I have the same learning disability as woody, I like knowing the why's. The problem I've noticed, most instructors are offended when asking for reasoning.
@@DIVETALK So much this. When I'm answering questions or explaining something (and part of my job is payroll, so I do a lot of both) I always try to include the reason why they should do it X way rather than Y way. Actual understanding stays in the mind better than rote memorization.
I used the word disability as sarcasm, I apologize that it did come across as such. I should know by now to use quotation marks on my not so obvious sarcasm.
Enjoyed the video guys!! The girls underwater was cool and loved the bride and groom scene. You guys should totally blow up a jet ski!! Watched a lot of your vids and the content is awesome 😎 Keep up the great work.
As a lifeguard/rescue swimmer they train you to do that to panicked victims it’s a class in the coast guard rescue swimmer A school training if you watch the movie the guardian it’s a point in the movie great movie by the way but in real life your supposed to swim behind them and gain control… but you don’t do what that guy does there’s other ways we do things in situations in the water
20k just went by! Good stuff guys! This channel will explode real quick like we said even before 10k. Love, love the collage. Keep bringing guests and knowledge to non divers like me. Stay healthy!
I was a lifeguard. We learned adult CPR, child CPR, infant CPR, water rescue, with swimmer floating face down on top, swimmer submerged, we also learned the heimlich maneuver, etc. We went through intense training, and you did not pass unless you did everything perfectly. One instructor played the drowning diver, flailing, screaming, I dove in to rescue her, and when I got close, her flailing arms punched me in the face! I swam behind her, and did the pull behind, put my arms under her armpits, and locked my arms/hands around her neck, then with her "locked" onto me, swam on my back backwards to the side of the pool. My instructor who was the face down on top of the water, no movement rescue, was a 6 ft. 250 pound guy. I had to do the twisting your body underwater (I'm pretty small, I about twisted my body backwards in half, while locked onto him with my arms from behind, to get him turned around, and swam to the side of the pool on my back. We definitely learned about if you see someone floating in the water, and nobody saw what happened, we use the rescue board to strap them onto, using a vice grip to hold their head in place, because they might have broken their neck, etc. I was 16 when I learned all this, and I'm 45 now. I have remembered all of this training. What this lifeguard instructor is doing.....looks like a police manuever take down, on the side of a road somewhere. Lol, I'm trying not to laugh, because this is not the right way to rescue a drowning person, it's just so ridiculous! 😂
Seriously,I just had the most fun watching this! I am so happy to have found your channel!!! Thanks for sharing your lives with us an for the lessons an laughs!! ✌🏼💗😊❣️
This dude is a psycho path lifeguard pfff I was a lifeguard for Atlantic city beach patrol never seen anything like this, if anything if a person is panicking you approach them from the back
Thanks Dive Talk for all the laughs and everything you've taught me! "Did you know that technique?" "No, but now I'll use it. Thanks for this educational video." I very much enjoy any video you put out, even when it sarcastic comments on movie clips.
Lifeguard instructors absolutely do not teach this. We learn techniques that are safe for both us and the victims and they do not involve kicking or grabbing whatsoever 😡
As someone who has been certified as a lifeguard, Water Safety Instructor, and Lifeguard Training Instructor, this is something that should NEVER be trained. There are multiple techniques, but not these...
It's quite unfortunate you guys don't recognize the utility of this training. These techniques are associated with the unofficial, unspoken, unwritten, unheard of yet unquestioned maxim among super cave divers; leave every man behind. These techniques are superb for maintaining distance from, and subduing, distressed divers seeking aid to expedite their demise. That behind the back arm submission, for example, is meant to facilitate aspiration (faster drowning). But the techniques on display here are frankly entry level. As you progress in the training you learn much more advanced techniques, like how to blind the distressed diver/swimmer with your flashlight, while you unholster your spear gun and shoot them in the head. Or feigning to render aid to get close enough to stab them in the carotid (a personal favorite). But that's really advanced stuff, reserved only for those able to discern distress in its most nascent stages, sometimes even before the diver/swimmer that's in distress. Because ultimately only one thing matters. #1, i.e., me. Daddy's coming home.
This may be my favorite comment of all time…
Dear god…I’m not saying we found a new head writer, but I think we found a new head writer
You are a poet
Wow man, lot of thought put into that haha...very entertaining read
hahahah. i am deceased 💀😂⚰️
truly, that progression was magical.
Gus was cracking me up. "Oh, you're still alive? Get some!" 🤣
Ryan, yes I was laughing big time when he said that.
Woody
"Don't you dare need help"
Gus's action commentary cracks me up. "How DARE you need help!"
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I’m dying at his comments 😂😂😂😂
Now I don't need to comment this😂
Bro I'm crying, Woody's sitting there in shock at what he's seeing and Gus is just losing it laughing 😂
Oh yeah...it was hilarious
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"This guy is at least consistent at bringing them under water" is my favorite quote
I dont think these guys even realize how big of a podcast they could have on there hands and not only about diving but they know intersting people with great storys and they can talk about more then just diving they are funning entertaining and fun to watch. They just have that thing that makes you want to listen to them
Yes, yes I wud agree!!
I'd be so happy if they even decided to convert the audo of their videos onto the podcast 😅
Completely agree. I have little to no interest in diving, I can barely swim, However I find myself sat here completely submerged in the conversation.
Absolutely love Dive Talk and I'm not a diver! Keep going Gus & Woody 💞
Woody & Christian : 👁👄👁
Gus : BAM GET SOME!!
🤣🤣🤣
Alright I know I'm a little late to this video but I was a lifeguard for 6 years and taught lifeguarding for 3 years. But these are not techniques that are taught at all. This is absurd. There is certain things that you use to control those in need and in panic. This is mind blowing. Im at a loss for words! Im glad you guys went ahead and talked to people who have experience. Just wow!!!
“Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait……give me a second here…” - Woody. 😂😂😂
Robert, I’m laughing just hearing you recount this. Funny.
I love how Donald Cerone has become a running joke on DiveTalk. “There’s a rule for jet skiing...” 🤣
He's going to kills us all one day
@@DIVETALK lol luckily for yas he's a good dude too and he knows how to take a joke lol. Now I'm sure if you just talked a bunch of shit to his face he might throw a head kick knocking you into timbucktooo lol.
#TrueFacts
haha yes this ^^
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It has been many years since I was lifeguard certified, but we were never taught anything like that. People who are truly panicking are not going to instantly calm down with an arm bar especially if they were just kicked and pulled under by the person who is supposedly saving them.
Was an ocean lifeguard for 7 years. Drowning victims don’t kick you away when they panic. They lunge and grab you and instinctively will push you down. They train you to stop a few yards from the victim and put your floatation device (the big plastic torpedo looking things) between you and the victim.
One time I had a big guy, probably 280-300 lbs. and he grabbed my arm and I saw the panic in his eyes, honestly horrifying. I started getting pushed under, so I slammed my floatation device into his sternum to get him to let go. Then let him float with it for a bit til he calmed down.
So are you saying that what you saw in this video is not standard operating procedure?
@@DIVETALK it is standard operating procedure should you find yourself being attacked by a mermaid
@@KrimeDog I hate when that happens to me and it does every single time I go swimming!
Ahhh I see...on a related note, if you eat a mermaid, does that make you a cannibal?
Pretty sure it depends on which half you eat
As a kid I did many years of lifeguard training and I actually DO remember some self defense techniques. They are needed in case of a nearly drowned panicking person, because they naturally try everything to get their head as far out of the water as possible, so they would try to push themselves up on your body.
Tho, the only kind of right technique the guy showed, was the arm behind the back, because you need to be in physical control over the panicking person so you can force him horizontal, which makes him float and you can drag him through the water very easy. You would use the same arm-behind-the-back-technique to drag a passed out person, while having your other hand under their chin to support the head.
Nevertheless this guy even did that move wrong, because you would never do it in such sharp moves, it's rather a smooth controlled motion, without pulling the victim under water.
Needless to say, you would never push, punch or kick a drowning person.
When Guz does his‘silent’ laugh, it totally cracks me up. Thanks.
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When I was a teenager my brother and I used to play "victims" for my sister's lifeguard class (she was the instructor). My brother use to go all out with his struggling and being very unrealistic. My sister repeatedly told him to calm it down, but he wouldn't listen. During one drill an older woman was tasked to rescue him. She swam up to him and before he could get into his routine, his eyes suddenly got wide, he gasped and went very still. She had grabbed him by the balls and asked sweetly " Are you going to calm down now?". We are now in our 50's and it's still one of the best family stories ever.
Oh my goodness age an wisdom wins the day!! I could literally see his face in my head🤣😂🤣😂!!
Thanks for that✌🏼💗😊❣️
That sound like sexual harassment
@@bilgecoskun2606 No, that’s called survival.
Bet you they ain't thrashing around no more, him or his balls 😂
UA-cam algorithm brought me to your channel from a MrBallen video and I've been hooked ever since 😅 Who would have thought dive talk would be so interesting and informative! Great content guys! Loving the reactions 😁
Same
Me too! Never dived in my life but i think ive watched almost all the dive talk videos now
Same for me.
Woody: I think we should try this Gus. We can get some old jet skis and I know someone who has access to anti tank weapons……
Gus: No, no, no
I love Woody’s sense of adventure and Gus is hilarious! How long did it take you to find these clips? This was a lot of fun and well done. Thanks guys!
Thank you Heather. It took a few days to put this together.
The video: this cave has killed 20 divers ....
Woody: Gus, we should go for a quick look, 👀👌
I was coming to write this same comment!
@@DIVETALK y’all should collaborate with Adam Savage (mythbusters!) for a blowing up jet skis video!!
I WANNA SEE JET SKI GO BOOM!!
He is actually going to be the one 'responsible' for drowning the victim, this is insane. You do not make the situation worse!
I absolutely love this channel. I've never dived, don't really have any interesting learning but your content is fascinating. Your personalities, the dynamic, the reactions, how y'all are always mindful and explain terms that the non divers don't understand. Its grrat!
As a former lifeguard from way back when.. it seems like this guy is teaching a strange interpretation of some holds and releases of yesteryear. There were techniques that when a victim would lunge you could grab and gain control then keeping the victims head ABOVE the water bring them to shore. There were also a number of escape techniques when grabbed by panic victims. All of these techniques could get quite evolved and complicated and belive the modern training model is more simplified and focused more on safe approaches using flotation etc. As for the double kick to the chest.... ass*ole. Great channel guys.
Thank you Michael.
weird, the only one that I was taught that is in the video is the push kick to the chest, not a hard kick, but just something to create/maintain distance.
The video that none of us knew that we needed to see today!
That whole bride and groom clip was a wild ride
Hahaha I agree Sean
Love seeing that notification, DIVE TALK just uploaded!!!!
Yes! These are literally my fav youtubers. I wish to meet them someday
More to come!
yay me too!!! i love new vid day
Next month, the Turkish instructor has a video of him teaching an Emergency First Responder class where he performs actual tracheotomies on his students with a dull pen knife and a Bic pen. Just when you think it can't get worse....
That Turkish instructor is Joshua Fabia levels of delusion
Wow my dyslexia is in full force today. I read Bic pen as Big Mac…….🤦♀️
cmon man, he was training his students for this:
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@@lone6718 ... I kind of want a Big Mac trach now...
Holy shit, don't give him ideas. This guy is scary
Straight up… when gus goes “BAM! Oh wait you’re still alive? BAAAM” that honestly killed me with laughter
“By chance is that a wedding dress? I just want to make sure I am seeing correctly” 😂😂😂
Hahahaha! I laughed way to hard when you told about the crazy dude. Someone got their little ego hurt. Lol!
Right?
I love when Woody says “give me a second here”😂
Ha!
This dude is seriously a James Bond villain trainer.
When I redid my rescue course it was with instructors and DM’s I was used to working with so they obviously took the piss a bit. But one of the best things I learnt for getting a hold of a panicking diver on the surface…was to approach from underwater.
So if you try to get behind them and they spin trying to keep an eye on you, viewing you as a human Island to climb, just submerge and get behind them underwater and then come up. A panicking diver scared of drowning will NOT try to chase you if you go underwater.
Yeah, if you have fins this is super useful. Also you can use your mobility to maintain a safe distance rather than the kick ;)
Right on Woody! I also did american karate for about 10 years. It really changed my mindset which benefits me to this day. You have a very calm personality and maybe that why. Karate made me a very calm person... 98% of the time lol
Edit: I bet that instructor is the same guy in the stress training video ripping off people's masks.
Great video, Gus, Woody & Christian!
Really hope the Turkish instructor takes you up on that invite...
It'll be great learning experience and save him a future of class action lawsuits :-)
I know I’m late to the party here, but the threats from that instructor are completely toothless. You have every right to use footage from another video if you’re creating transformative content with it. That’s what fair use is. A certain popular UA-camr has fought this fight in court and won (and now is successfully fighting the same fight again). Your right to react has legal precedent. Keep doing your thing, guys. Awesome content.
I'm not a cave diver, but I was a lifeguard.
Yes, we undergo extensive panic training because a panicked victim is superhuman strong and can EASILY drown you if you don't know what you're doing.
I suppose I should add that experienced lifeguards have no problem laying the Smackdown on a panicked victim in order to save his or her life....better bruised than dead.
This episode is so freaking great! It was like watching Mystery Science Theater 3000 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the wisdom that Woody imparts on us
So wise
This guy is crazy. Having worked as a life guard, doing rescues without a floatation device like a tube or a board is very dangerous. panicked drowning victim will often climb on top of you and start drowning you. In that case you need to create distance, however this is absolutely not how do do it. I was taught to take a deep breath and dive underwater. It’s the last place the drowning victim wants to be. And from experience it’s always worked for me.
Well that actually makes sense.
The more you know ----*
He's teaching them how to subdue a very panicked person in a situation where you don't have a floatation device, and don't have time to go underwater.
Stunning a person who's panicking and bigger and stronger than you and trying to grab you so you can get them into position where you control them in the rescue position, can save your and their life.
Woody and gus are a great team, but chris added a lot too. This episode is really well done, showing the reality behind the theatrics.
I appreciate the feedback for sure and glad you enjoyed it !
As someone who has never been scuba diving, and knows next to nothing about it, I’ve found your channel to be very enlightening.
I’ve heard of “atmospheres” regarding water but I never realized just how dangerous it can be for the human body. When you guys talk about 120-130 feet being 4 atmospheres I was dumbfounded! I was thinking man that’s not even that far! How can it be that dangerous?!
Now I’m hooked and learning about the sport even though I’ll never do it. Maybe 10-15 feet in open water just to check it out but that’s it. I have asthma and sinus problems so I don’t think diving is for me lol.
Thanks for bringing us along on these journeys! 👍
I have asthma and sinus problems, and my doctor told my Mom when I was a kid, “Here’s an inhaler. Put it on the side of the pool, and make her go to swimming lessons everyday. If she has an asthma attack, make her take a couple of puffs, and then get back to swimming. She’ll grown out of it if you do this.” And he was right. I still have asthma, but I have so few asthma attacks. One every to 5 years usually during allergy season when the pollen is crazy or if I get around a cat indoors. If you can go swimming and get strong, you could probably go diving. The more I swim, the better my lungs get.
I’m dying laughing with you guys and it’s barely started lmao
Woohoo!
Sea Hunt with Lloyd Bridges had a ton of underwater fights...great show.
The crazy part about the Turkish diving instructor, most of his comments are complimenting him and he doesn't get too many dislikes. I wondered if he just deletes comments until I saw his like ratio...Just crazy, maybe the laws in Turkey are non-existent as far as being an instructor, but at least he makes you guys look flawless lol
Hello Dive Talk first of all congratulate you for the excellent videos you make and the information you give
I was almost 7 years to take the Open Water course after having a ruptured eardrum, because of your videos I decided to take the course, on July 25th I'll have the final exam at sea :) :) :) Wish me luck
Good Luck Andre!
Look, we already have the most realistic underwater fighting video ever in this channel, and the title is "the worst scuba instructor ever in the world". If I want one man to assassinate an entire submarine's worth of divers, it will be him.
Bruh I'm rolling 🤣😭💀
Well...did you see he made an appearance on this one?
@@DIVETALK Not yet! No spoilers! XD
@@DIVETALK Holy, I had no idea how close to the mark I was with my joke. At this point I'm actually inclined to believe that this guy instructor is military-trained, and his lifeguard rescue skill is really his "knock out your opponent in the shortest time possible before kidnapping them" skill.
HA!
Former lifeguard and I literally just got home from my morning BJJ class, logged in and BAM.
Talk about a great fit!
Woody. Just being as nice as possible here. While secretly controlling his laughter 🤣 come on now, underwater kungfu is not a thing and you know it 🤭
He's training people to never go into the water! Thus saving lives! 👍🏻
Hahaha so we should be thanking him then!
@@DIVETALK haha 😄👍🏻
Lmaooo! Woody is always pushing the boundaries of ideas! Its hilarious! I love it! 😂😂😂😂😂
Wait ‘til you hear some of his ideas over the next couple of weeks
That second clip of the marine with guns was actually the guy in the 1st clip dreaming about his ideal day at work with his lifeguard firearms for dealing with swimmers 😆
Ha!
His Pool Fu is strong.
jiu jitsu: the art of folding clothes with people still in them
Love your videos! I have no idea about anything to do with diving but I am always so entertained.
You should see my face when Woody said “I am trying my absolute best to give him the benefit of the doubt” 😂😂😂😂😂 I laughed so hard!
O.k. Y'all got me with this one- subbed. I laughed until I bout cried- then read the comment y'all pinned and was just rolling. I needed that- badly, thank all you guys.
That guy is like a lil kid being like " Mooom watch my frikn mega cool drop-kick into helpless scared looking woman" Boooom! Next one- punch to the throat RIP! Next one... lol
Best training ever
And at the end he just gets paid for it! 😄
@@DIVETALK yep what a wonderful world we live in ^^
Absolutely love this channel! I've been a lifeguard for 2 years now but never thought about diving but these videos have inspired me to get my diving certifications! Keep up the great work fellas!!
Awesome! Thank you!
I wonder if he is working in a place with a lot of aggressive drunks? I'm a paramedic, and we get a shocking number of drunk and combative patients. We take a mandatory class every couple of years in which we actually practice some escapes, and even a kick, on the mats. It's all intended to be used for self-defense, of course, but the two-day class covers all aspects of dealing with the aggressive patient, from documentation and justifiable force, to escaping chokes and grapple-holds. I can definitely imagine some life-guards who work on certain beaches, dealing with some pretty violent drunks. Then again, I'm land-locked in the Midwest, so what do I know?
I cannot express my disappointment in this "instructor" guy enough. I have been in the ocean, in a situation, when someone had a full blown freak-out session, because a rip current had started to pull a mother and daughter deeper into the ocean from hip depth.
The sheer terror that overcame her, made her push her daughter underwater just to stay "above". Imagine what would happen if you purposefully push a person like that underwater.
As an untrained person, me and my friend saw what was happening, split them up and kept them calm un-till we could swim out, without violence.
That’s really abnormal. Real niche shit there you saw the “apparently I’m a psychopath” achievement unlocked right in front of you
@@saysHotdogs oh yeah, you can see the eyes glaze over when the achievement pop-up appears.
I love this channel I really do.
Im super surprised they were able to do split window on this one. Three boxes and one of the has to fit Woodys head. Well produced Gus.
Potential review for the show called
"I shouldn't be alive" season 2 episode 6
Me: Ah, can't wait to see what great diving info is in this video!
Woody: I WANT TO BLOW UP A JET SKI
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s a child
I had an instructor like this for a Water Safety Instructor course. Half of the class was in-water wresting stuff like this. It was ridiculous but actually a lot of fun. The final was having to fight the instructor and he was this super intense, wiry, 60+ year old German dude with a flat top haircut...like Klaus from Team Zissou.
Played the underwater soccer game a few times for physical training (PT). We had a Commanding Officer (CO) ,LtCol Harper, who was doing a command visit, so we invited him to come to our PT session. This guy ended up being the biggest baby cause he got his butt kicked, kept saying we were changing the rules, cheating, etc. We had a pre-brief to go over everything to include all the rules before we even got in the water. This guy just didn't listen and was the type to have to win at everything, and was used to everyone letting him win because he was the "boss". Not that day, his team was losing very badly and he decided the PT session was over and quit. That guy really showed his character that day. When it was time to PCS, I was glad to have left his command.
The Donald Cerrone School of Underwater Combat Lifeguarding
By the way, I want to send Woody a lifetime supply of coffee, as long as he promises to drink it in time to react to a video, for maximum interruption! (Please don’t let Gus ban me for it!)
Hahaha he’ll probably accept!
Could you ask Woody to change from Starbucks? They are heavy supporters of Palm oil
@@felicous whats wrong with palm oil?
🤣🤣🤣 that first vid and yours guyz reaction cracked me up so bad..I literally had tears rolling down my cheeks..wow this is great❤️
Yeah, I almost blacked out laughing
It's simple really, I see a new dive talk video I click.
And immediately like said video right?
@@DIVETALK Right! I'm not that complicated.
Helen here - whoopee what a treat!. You boys just get better..... I'm subscriber 231, I think 🤔 tho how anyone got to you before I don't know. Such an interesting guest, Chris. Lovely and modest.,like most good divers xx
Thanks for subbing back in the day!
I absolutely love when Gus laughs at the stupidity! Im along side of you brother! 😂
Woody's all jacked up on a triple espresso. And that's interesting stuff we learned about you today Gus!!!
Yesssss!!! More videos! I love you both and thank you for uploading ! These videos and your comments are literally the highlight of my day!! Thank you dudes
Ellis and Associates lifeguard here with 5 years experience. That instructor is teaching a hyper-aggressive and unnecessary form of escapes. Each if those scenarios we're taught to either push ourselves DOWN and AWAY from the victim and let them tire out before rendering aid OR grab around their chest and roll them to where WE are in a Controlling position. You would NEVER push someone head underwater like that. The guy also tried to do a jaw thrust one handed while his person in distress' head was underwater lol
Wesley, we value this comment. Thanks for chiming in.
Lmao woody with his coffee 😂
I want more caffeine!!!!!!!!! Gus won’t let me!!!!!
@@DIVETALK gus is the responsible one 😂😂
Binging more of your videos today. Even watched some I have already watched. I loved your commentary on all of these. The bride video did me in. Thanks for the laughs.
Hollywood's gonna have ideas for beverly hills ninja 2 if they see this.
That’s hilarious! Watched the original last night! 🤣
I love how this combined my two favourite things: scuba diving and BJJ
It’s crazy isn’t it?
this is why i love you guys, even tho you have many reasons to be totally bias against this guy because of your last video on him and his response. but you guys always give people the credit they actually deserve (or don’t deserve) regardless of your personal opinion on them :) nothing i love more then seeing the notification that you guys have posted and then seeing it’s almost an hour long react video!!!
People keep asking for us to make them shorter but we can't! When we record these they feel like they are 8 minutes long and they end up being like an hour long.
@@DIVETALK i LOVE the long videos, also i can’t imagine how long the video would have been if you weren’t forced to remove the last 2 clips!! it’s good to have some short videos but i binged ALL your react videos in the first 2 days i found your channel 😂 having the long videos gives me a challenge :D love the content !!
@@DIVETALK I agree with beth, I love the long videos too. It's almost like a podcast but we can watch something :)
Please don't do away with the long videos. People are going to complain either way, but your best content is going to be when you show genuine reactions/footage. An even mix is your best bet. I love the long videos.
@@confusedpenguin6933 totally agree, PLUS the way they do their videos, someone could totally find a pause or a shift in topic where you could easily take a break in watching the video if they don’t want to watch the video all the way through and then just come back and finish it later!
THIS WAS SO FUN TO WATCH!!! THANK YOU!
We had fun recording it!
In the BSA Guard and Red Cross classes I've taken and taught, a sign of drowning is no/poor forward progress. They wont be front crawling towards you like that. But they will lunge and drag as you approach. That's why reaching with your buoy or anything else is much preferred. The "grappling" is when you grab their wrist to turn and drag them onto your buoy then switch to a cross chest hold so you can tow them. Even then, you never drag them underwater or try to restrain them like that. Absurd.
my teen ager and I finally have something we both enjoyed and can talk and laugh about! . Thank you, Thank You !
This is the cobra Kai of lifeguards lol 🐍 🥋
Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.
Pushing (not kicking) a panicking victim away with your leg is a legitimate lifeguard technique to protect yourself. You would want to reapproach them from behind and hook under the arms. The armbars and chokes not so much. This guy is something else.
He is
I have the same learning disability as woody, I like knowing the why's. The problem I've noticed, most instructors are offended when asking for reasoning.
Harry but they need to chill because people learn better when they know “why”. Thanks for the comment.
Well I'd like to thank you guys sincerely for what you're doing, because a lot of the why's get answered here. Stay safe!
@@DIVETALK So much this. When I'm answering questions or explaining something (and part of my job is payroll, so I do a lot of both) I always try to include the reason why they should do it X way rather than Y way. Actual understanding stays in the mind better than rote memorization.
How is wanting to know why, a learning disability?
I used the word disability as sarcasm, I apologize that it did come across as such. I should know by now to use quotation marks on my not so obvious sarcasm.
The commentary is gold
Thank you
This “instructor” is going to get arrested 😂
Enjoyed the video guys!! The girls underwater was cool and loved the bride and groom scene. You guys should totally blow up a jet ski!! Watched a lot of your vids and the content is awesome 😎 Keep up the great work.
Thank you sir!
As a lifeguard/rescue swimmer they train you to do that to panicked victims it’s a class in the coast guard rescue swimmer A school training if you watch the movie the guardian it’s a point in the movie great movie by the way but in real life your supposed to swim behind them and gain control… but you don’t do what that guy does there’s other ways we do things in situations in the water
I can see Woody in scuba gear slowly rising out of the water with a LAW on his shoulder, ready to blast a jet ski.
It’s gonna be happening. Lol. Can’t wait!!!
The guy said her boyfriend has until her air runs out to come rescue her.
20k just went by! Good stuff guys! This channel will explode real quick like we said even before 10k. Love, love the collage. Keep bringing guests and knowledge to non divers like me. Stay healthy!
Thank you. Will do.
woody seem like a man after my own hart. always has a coffee in his hand
I was a lifeguard. We learned adult CPR, child CPR, infant CPR, water rescue, with swimmer floating face down on top, swimmer submerged, we also learned the heimlich maneuver, etc. We went through intense training, and you did not pass unless you did everything perfectly. One instructor played the drowning diver, flailing, screaming, I dove in to rescue her, and when I got close, her flailing arms punched me in the face! I swam behind her, and did the pull behind, put my arms under her armpits, and locked my arms/hands around her neck, then with her "locked" onto me, swam on my back backwards to the side of the pool. My instructor who was the face down on top of the water, no movement rescue, was a 6 ft. 250 pound guy. I had to do the twisting your body underwater (I'm pretty small, I about twisted my body backwards in half, while locked onto him with my arms from behind, to get him turned around, and swam to the side of the pool on my back. We definitely learned about if you see someone floating in the water, and nobody saw what happened, we use the rescue board to strap them onto, using a vice grip to hold their head in place, because they might have broken their neck, etc. I was 16 when I learned all this, and I'm 45 now. I have remembered all of this training. What this lifeguard instructor is doing.....looks like a police manuever take down, on the side of a road somewhere. Lol, I'm trying not to laugh, because this is not the right way to rescue a drowning person, it's just so ridiculous! 😂
Nice to wake up in the morning to this!
You crack me up Gus! You're awesome. Imagine those "techniques" in the ocean...!!!
I will donate literally 10's of dollars to the jetski target fund.
Don't give Woody any ideas!
@@DIVETALK I smell a gofundme coming on!
Sign me up 😁
Sign me up!
Seriously,I just had the most fun watching this! I am so happy to have found your channel!!!
Thanks for sharing your lives with us an for the lessons an laughs!! ✌🏼💗😊❣️
This dude is a psycho path lifeguard pfff I was a lifeguard for Atlantic city beach patrol never seen anything like this, if anything if a person is panicking you approach them from the back
Is that always possible? I doubt it! Especially if there are multiple people in the water.
Coast guard dives under said drowning person then does like a fireman carry flip it’s pretty cool tbh
Thanks Dive Talk for all the laughs and everything you've taught me!
"Did you know that technique?"
"No, but now I'll use it. Thanks for this educational video."
I very much enjoy any video you put out, even when it sarcastic comments on movie clips.
Lifeguard instructors absolutely do not teach this. We learn techniques that are safe for both us and the victims and they do not involve kicking or grabbing whatsoever 😡
Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for chiming in.
WHAT?! You mean I'm not going to be punched in the face while drowning? I really wanted my outside face to reflect my inside pain.
Awesome video. Gus and Woody, you guys do not disappoint!
As someone who has been certified as a lifeguard, Water Safety Instructor, and Lifeguard Training Instructor, this is something that should NEVER be trained. There are multiple techniques, but not these...
Also what a delightful guest on this one. Great guy.