Everything You Need To Know About Water Gameplay | AoE2
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00:00 Intro
01:12 Naval Combat
09:31 Unique Warships
13:40 Fishing
18:43 Landing
Edits by / @k1aoe - Ігри
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You forgot to mention that when you go for Galleys, you have to glue your screen to them, because the moment you take care of something else, they'll run into Fireships. Everytime.
I came here to learn about playing water maps and left reassured why I don't play water.
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Same 😂
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thank god im not the only one xd
I think you missed a part about where it is appropriate to use land units to fight against water units, so here it is:
* When defending your "back water" on Islands adding in a few Rams to tank fire in the choke point close to the map edge is a way to gain an advantage (shoutout to Japanese Fishing Ships too).
* Similarly on Cup (or other maps with 100% shallow water), you can use a mass of Halberdiers (which have bonus damage against ships - they about 5 or 6 shot fast fire ships) to regain control of the gold, if it is only ships blocking you. Add rams with your last gold, if the enemy has stone defenses.
* Towers are bad against ships, unless the enemy has researched Heated Shot, then they're really strong (even more so with the other defensive university techs)
* Castles are always strong, evade at all costs until they're gone even if you've got siege ships.
* (Siege) Onagers can effectively area deny against a mass of ships, but won't be able to chase or do anything when micro'd against in a 1 on 1 or 5 on 2 fight. Evade Onagers when there's 3 or more.
* Trebuchets might be used on maps where they can reach castles on the other side of a small "river". They're not good against ships, but they do one shot them. Focus them with siege ships, if you can (Galleys are bad though, because they only do 1 damage). Briton trebs (with Warwolf) will win an engagement for their side, if it was somewhat balanced or slightly unfavorable before.
* Monks are okay against ships (they're actually good against singled out siege ships), but they're not very useful against a mass of them.
* Other generic land units are bad (yes, even bombard cannons).
I think an addendum may be in order. This is useful info!
AoE2 is my version of football.
I watch tons of UA-cam about it, about advanced strategies, and.... don't play it ever hahah.
I love it. Thank you for all of your videos!
Same! Literally was just talking to my wife about the same thing haha...she says she prefers it over sports lol
I havent playrd it much in a very long time. But I am proud of my 100% multiplayer win rate, consisting of one game in 2006.
Great video! I think the Spanish Cannon galleon should be mentioned also, as a side note.
One thing that wasn't in the video - amphibious terrain. What ships are best to use on amphibious? And what land units do the best against ships?
demo or ranged, so you can run away. Fire ships sound great but rams kill several of them easily
No offense to spirit of the law but I think Hera needs to do more of these “spirit of the law” style videos like this one
yes and no. It feels SOTL does more math stuff, while hera give smore player based tips and kind of full guide on more wide topic instead of SOTL's specific scopes. For example SOTL does extreme analysis with all math on farms. While hera give more things like - how do you micro your archers against opponent with or without ballistics.
I love both TBH.
I think the reason you have one tech to upgrade 3 ships is because in the original game there was no fire galley and demo raft. Those were added in The Forgotten; so instead of making two new techs to upgrade the demo and fire line they just rolled it into the galley upgrade, probably to avoid upsetting the balance.
20:28 You can also transport siege towers full of karambit warriors.
Everything you need to know about water gameplay: "Ban all water maps in the ranked pool. If you don't have enough bans to cover them all, wait until next week."
Cab we get a market abuse video? Or at least a match where market use was used for certain strats would def help us low elo one day legends thank you Hera keep it up!!
Could have mentioned what units to pair up w/ the unique boats.
Typical Hera hating on slow units (Turtle Ships)
Saracen Transports have x2 Hp (200) and +5 Capacity.
Sicilians have: 50% cheaper Transports and +5 LoSight as their Team Bonus.
I still think the dock should be split into two buildings as well it's the only building that needs two pages
My Idea: one building for Battle ships and techs, one building for trade ships and fishing ships and techs
Agreed. Non-noob players use hotkeys to queue units, and the dock having 2 pages bothers me so much.
I know that there is also a hotkey for the next-page button, so it is just one additional button, but I hate it.
When a game gets intense and I try to produce a bunch of fire ships, sometimes I end up getting tons of transport ships.
I've been enjoying water maps lately and hybrid maps especially, there are civs that become more interesting on these maps like Vikings, Japanese, Italians, Byzantines etc. The only thing that I don't like is when you upgrade your arrow galleys they lose that sleek stacking and micro capability, it's enough that I sometimes delay the upgrade because there is a window in early castle age where they still feel pretty strong without the upgrade.
I like this video; but I wish it was easier to tell which videos on this channel are full matches with commentary, vs more instructional/educational videos like this one, where there is footage recorded specifically for it, and editing to break down the info more easily. This sort of stuff is my favorite content on this channel, since there’s a different channel for your gameplay :)
Most of the content these days is edited content, only the odd gameplay or 3v1 game
Most, but the gameplay is not an insubstantial amount. For example, at the time of this reply, in your 8 most recent videos, 3 are gameplay videos (one isn't your gameplay, but commentating over someone else's, but still). That's almost 40% of your recent videos
And just to not have a misunderstanding, I like these videos, too! I just wish it were easier to tell which was which 🙏
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 I've seen other channels add a border or a symbol somewhere in the thumbnail to distinguish.
Thanks for the water map content =D
Four lakes is a hybrid map tho 😅
Thanks!
4:00 were those 3 buildings on that tiny island archery ranges, perchance?
Man, im the only one in my squad that loves water gameplay, not fair...
very good land units can be protected with water units too
a little bit nit-picky but the fire ship projectiles ARE targeted but have an accuracy of 0% and missed shot get blocked by everything ;)
Also slight correction on the fishboom: a perfect Fishtrap with Gillnets is a Slav farmer with Hand Cart. and wood is easier to come by than food.
what was imho important information not in this video: villagers collect super fast from shore fish but Fishing Ships collect slower from shorefish are pretty fast from deep fish (but obviously more distance)
Up until this video I didnt know the dock had a 2nd page Sadge
That's such a long way of saying "Ban water maps"...
But actually useful video. As the Arabia meta becomes ever more stale, all the other incredibly fun and interesting aspects of AoE that people dont really experience due to Arabia being overplayed finally start to gather more interest
@@baizen1Why ban? If people enjoy it, then let them. I also like to play something from time to time
My guy talked about water for 22 mins without knowing / researching how much food fish traps provide.
Tells you how little it matters then lol
All ships need to have high mele armor. Honestly Teutonic knight taking down galleon 1v1 is yet again „ridiculous” aoe2 logic 😂
I wish it was more varied
Bilbo Baggins lol
You didn't cover the bonus damage behind the scenes.
Forgot to mention trade, but I think it's too rare to even deserve mentioning. Stay awesome
Even tho it is a water map. water controll sohuld not be as powerful like it is. When its literally won by mass production. in AOE 2 the land in the water maps is so narrow that once the opponent has surrounded u with ships. u cannot do anything.
Longboat arent broken? 11
Longboats are the conquistadors (for nomad) of water maps
finaaalyyyyyy water maps
All you need to know about water maps is... Don't play them! Aoe2 was originally going to be a land only game. They only added water as an afterthought to boost sales and it shows. Water fights always feel super awkward and clunky. It's the only part of the game which feels really dated, like it still feels like you're playing an old 90s game.
How do i learn to not completely despise water gameplay? i think i might be stuck on that part lol
It's fun to learn different mechanics and break up the early game
Until devs dont change the water design from buildings to new units then it will be nish and very unpopular gameplay.
The best thing about water maps is that you can decide to not play them
I generally ignore this part of the game tbh.
The reason water maps suck is because water fights are boring and transport pathing is awful.
22 min video to teach how to play rock paper scissors is a tad too long
This is very useful, thanks!
But man, you speak veeeery fast. Every time you speak about a tech, please write its name of the screen!
I just clicked to say i hate water maps,bye
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Water is the most boring shit ever! Hate every second of it.