Christmas with Meister Eckhart: Sermon 3
Вставка
- Опубліковано 17 гру 2023
- We countinue or Christmas special this year by reading the third sermon by the catholic mystic Meister Eckhart.
The translation used here is by Maurice O'C Walshe in the volume "The Complete Mysical Works of Meister Eckhart", which is highly recomended.
#christmas #eckhart #mysticism
These days are so hard. I am deeply grateful for your readings and comments. They bring light. Thank you.
Loved this. I expect you are aware of Rupert Spira
@@ritaleitch6541 now yes, thank you :)
I’m not religious at all, but today I listened to these while painting and it was lovely. I love your comments, it adds context to background knowledge I don’t have, so it’s very helpful. Learning about various religions has become a bit of a hobby, it’s extremely interesting. Happy holidays everyone!
There had been a specific ongoing question in my mind for decades that this sermon clarified for me today. What a wonderful & deep sermon. Looking forward to #4. Shukr .... Much Love....
I have been a long time practitioner of Transcendental Meditation and always appreciated Maharishi’s teaching that we should simply meditate 20 minutes twice a day and that with time we would find our living, parenting, jobs, being more and more naturally guided by the source of being. Were not to become monks but to return each time to daily life with more of god ‘s spirit in us. I have had a couple experiences-that i cling to and confirm for me something deeper exists but I was particularly appreciative of Meister Ekharts similar encouragement to bring this back to your life and not simply become reclusive and perhaps selfish. Thank you for this reminder and for teaching this lesson from a new perspective. Has given me even more encouragement and inspiration to go inside so to bring outside in all actions a purer light. “ let your light so shine”
THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!! It’s been my Christmas most enjoyable gift this your maister Eckhart serie
Thank you for the readings. I’ve enjoyed them and your insight helps tremendously.
Have a blessed holiday season.
An interesting parallel I noticed when I was watching this earlier today. You mentioned, at least one of the reasons, why Eckhart was accused of heresy was that he put forward the notion that at some point the rituals and outward forms of devotion/worship may become no longer necessary. I did agree with your interpretation of that in saying that it's not necessary while one is absorbed in that mystical state of union with the divine, and is not meant to be applied to our everyday lives, so to speak. Until we can live our everyday lives in a constant state of devotion and submission to the will of God, prayers and rituals can be helpful.
The same exact notion was also expressed by a Hindu mystic of the Advaita vedanta tradition named Shankaracharya. He also stated that once one realizes "The Self" or gains Moksha (liberation) that these complicated and costly rituals would no longer be necessary. It was also a very controversial teaching within the Hindu religion at the time, although perhaps not so violently opposed as to be called heresy. I just found that interesting to hear both of these great mystics come to the same conclusion and to not fear expressing it.
You must seek until there is no seeker. ❤
Even Sri Ramakrishna, the great Bhakta, said the same thing. He related his experience that he went to place a tulsi leaf on top of the Shiva murti, suddenly he perceived the One Spirit pervading all things and he said that experience was the end of his ritualistic worship and use of external symbols to relate to God.
Thank you for keeping this series going. It's been tough for a bit, and these are popping up in some needed times. Thank you my friend ❤
Thank you for the video and this series. I found this sermon rather nourishing.
Thank you for this, making this accessible in this format, with the context you provide, is honestly one of the greatest things you could do and I deeply appreciate it. Personally, these sermons have given me profound realizations in my spiritual journey, and changed me for the better. I can only imagine it will do the same for many others. May god be with you, many thanks!
Thank you so much for doing this. You are providing exactly the right amount of commentary to make the sermons easier to understand without taking the focus away from Meister Eckhart. I was actually thinking about these sermons while rehearsing music for Christmas eve tonight and they added a new dimension to the sense of yearning in some of the carols. You are doing amazing work on your channel.
Firstly I would like to thank you for your channel and the work you do. It is a hard task to educate people on such topics and to do it in such an unbiased manner is even more impressive. Secondly I would like to say that Eckhart is one of the few Christians I truly respect because of his depth of understanding the mystical nature of his religion. I study the Spiral Dynamics model a lot recently and I can't miss to notice that his ideas of God are far beyond the Blue level which most Christians represent. His understanding is far in the Yellow and Turquoise levels of mind development which is astonishing considering the age he lived in. It is no surprise he was considered a heretic since the lower levels of on the spiral have fear of the upper levels and hard time understanding them. I am more surprised he was not considered to be a devil worshiper, but it seems he had find a way to explain himself more accurately and less threatening to the masses.
See this is what I like to put in my “content diet” so to speak. The reason is he isn’t biased and sometimes I wanna hear what others have to say. It helps with conversations or putting yourself in their shoes. Thank you!
potential intellect = the witness, the state of witnessing
Thank you again, Filip.
🙏❤️🌍🕊🌿🎶🎵🎶
Beautiful reading.
I like your Christmas sweater.
Happy Holidays!! ☃️ 🎄
He seems to me to validate personal experience of God. That was just one of the points that jumped out at me. Thank you for introducing so many of us to this great mystic. Just imagine what it must have been like for him to conceive these sermons. Mind-boggling to say the least.
Thank you for your time.
passive intellect ... intuition is my experience of this ... the heart of inspirition.
You should make a video about spirituality in Alcoholics Anonymous. It’s by no means religious organization but it is based entirely on building a relationship with a higher power and has millions of members around the world. The ins and outs of AA’s spirituality are fascinating.
I appreciate this tradition. Thank you for your work.
I really love this series, and also encourages me to read Meister Eckhart again! Thank you!
Thank you again for another beautiful video.
I'm up to 15:59, and there have been a couple of times where the question has arisen in regard to being able to "do" while in the state of god consciousness. My answer to this is yes, we can "do" , we can work etc, but when I say this, I don't literally mean it, "doing" happens, it is predetermined, the belief we "do" is egoic, therefore while in that state, doing will continue without attachment, however if the ego steps in and believes it has something important it must "do", then we are purged from god consciousness, until we have learnt the lesson about what part the ego plays and mastered it.
I hope that makes sense
Thank you!
Filip i know these videos may be more niche and therefore get less views, but I sincerely enjoy them so much. Thank you.
I am glad that I experience these things without having to analyze them so intellectually. The mystical path is sort of a coming of age where God works within us daily to bring us to the final goal He has set before us. i In my case God has set a high standard before me (the prophetic intellect) but I must strive daily to live up to that standard through the work of the Holy Spirit convicitng my soul as I continue to sin as I mature. I call this grace.
Love this
Absolutely beautiful. This made me calm.
I see these intellects defined very well by my very different modes/ behaviors. I prefer the passive observer and absorb, with inner philosophy sorting things out. The potential I very well understand as having synchronicities happening, knowing your in tune and is validating to keep going, be on the ready very soon and He will actively make it happen through you. (Some synchronicities can be unpleasant, choose not to feed those, or learn to be humble, laugh at yourself, because it's most often through satire, and... Most always, later you look on it with a peace of mind in a different light unlike the first time. Now you are more ready, you have transformed/ transmuted this!) The active is when I get an urge to speak or type, and just channels out in flow. I don't particularly recollect what I says or where I dumped it, just that God, the spirit moved me to do so. Without this divine driver present, I don't do these things - rather not on such a miraculous level of sheer volume, no.
I brought my skeptic around to eckharts work! Cant be iterated much better
Yessssssssss Philip you Donnie
😊 Super interesting. I prefer this instead of partying. 😁
Thanks for the video Filip! I have loved this series on Meister Eckhart and I'll be tuning in for the next one.
I love your Christmas series. Thank you so much for publishing quality content with your soothing voice
Thank you again for this presentation must useful.
The way the soul is referred to with feminine pronouns in this translation is both interesting and strangely charming. (I assume that Meister Eckhart's writing uses a feminine noun to refer to the soul in his olde timey German.) Using she/her instead of "it" brings a liveliness and color to the descriptions of the soul's actions and feelings. It makes me wonder about the possible metaphysical gender dynamics of Eckhart's thinking. If the soul is feminine, is the body masculine, or the intellect perhaps?
Traces all the way.back to Solomon and the Daughter of Zion. Souls are seen as being feminine in nature because union is between Bride and Bridegroom.
Intellect
@@10Ammar and yet you did not use your intellect at all before posting.
@@indigohalf For sure. At that time of the day my feminine side kicks in.
Thank you and Merry Christmas!🎄
I think this intellectual understanding of mysticism is a bit beyond what many of us can grasp. I get what Eckhart is saying in general but there’s also a lot I don’t understand. Maybe there’s also a cultural disconnect here. I’m more drawn to people like Julian of Norwich and the modern mystics like Sr Wendy Beckett, Fathers Richard Rohr, Thomas Keating and Thomas Merton. Their explanations are more easily related to my own experiences. Even then, I don’t always fully understand. I think this is because it’s so difficult to express what is happening in words…at least, it is for me. I have enjoyed your readings as part of my preparation for Christmas. Thank you.
I love this
Thank you ❤👏🏾👏🏾
I think the potential intellect is the goal of the ascent toward the final work that God intends to do with us. You might call it the prophetic intellect that the soul strives for through the workings of the dynamic between both active and passive intellects.
Thank you again, Filip. This sermon does seem further from direct experience, and more reliant on a philosophical construct. I would be quite interested in a compare/contrast episode or series on underlying themes. You could take something like apophatacism, netti netti, the zen koan “Mind is not Buddha; knowing is not the way” , and the various iterations though differing traditions and talk about that. Then maybe pratyahar, Christian or Sufi mysticism’s turning inward…Or the play of paradox. Or any of a number of commonalities. They’re all pointing. Thanks again.
Excellent reading and interpretation of this fascinating text sir. I like your admission of not entirely understanding some of the sermon. We are in safe hands. Maybe Meister Eckart is , like many great teachers, is covering all bases in order to catch as many seekers as possible. Sometimes obscuring, sometimes contradicting. I love the ambience you have created for this exercise. Looking forward to the next instalment. Thank you.
You Should Make A Video About If The Holy Trinity Is Biblical
Potential intellect is Manifestation of your Creativity!
🙏
Thank you for today’s reading of the Meister. The active intellect and passive intellect you have explained well even earlier. My hypothesis as regards the potential intellect is that is a sort of balancing between the active (as in charity etc) and the passive (absorption in the Grunt) a kind of wisdom if you like. Or what do you think?
From what I understood, bhakti is not living after the experince, but the experience, which is easier obtained by havin ghyana
I've been watching your videos with a keen interest mainly because they are really comprehensive and densely packed with secular facts, I want to request you to make a video on Ahmadiyya sect of Islam, this is one of the sects which believes that promised reformer has already appeared I request you again to please make a video on that
I mean it's not a sect, it's a complete new religion
I might cover it some day!
The neo-bogomil religion in Bulgaria references Eckhardt interestingly enough, i hope you can one day make a video on them, because i personally know many people back home who seem to be following it; vegetarianism and all.
I don’t know the distinction but i believe it is called “Dunovism” now by non practicers. A big figure currently in the religion is called “Eliazar Harash(not sure if thats spelled right)” and they believe in a sort of Gnostocism I think along with the messianic figure called Bensa Duno (or Petar Dunov).
❤
Potential intellect is intuition.
♥
My mind goes to thoughts of possession when interpreting some of it. It's a shockingly coherent read of it, and made listening at times painful, like a manual for absolving pious but afflicted souls? Or some kind of like, holy possession? Am i way off base?
I've been trying to talk about this mystical way of knowing that we see here in Meister Ekhart and often in other forms on this great channel. I've been trying to talk about it with a small community of secularistic, atheistic and rational-critical types. I've tried to do this by using their cherished theory of Reason, particular to them, taking their terminology relating to this theory and showing them how each instance of it is also applicable to the details of the process of the contemplative life that underpins this mystical way of knowing. I guess what I've done amounts to a unified theory of this mystical way of knowing and their Reason; I've shown how they're the same process, only operating at different levels of our being. I've shown how it makes no sense to value one and not the other.
So far, I've had no success with them. They misunderstand religion. They hate religion. They are like a workman who uses hammers but refuses to ever touch a spanner. They accuse me of being anti-rational. I am rational and religious.
Am I wasting my time with them? Have I answered what I thought was a call but turned out to be nothing but my own foolishness? I feel lost. They are my people. What am I doing...?
...You Cannot Open Another's Eyes. You cannot Feel with another's Hands. You cannot Walk with another's Feet. You can only offer to Show what you know & feel..! If They are not willing to Walk with you. If they can't see what You show. End your struggles.. And offer Them Piece.. Walk on with a prayer..🙏🏾
@@craigdelaney8737 Thank you so much for your reply. I don't know why I posted that comment, to be honest. It brought a tear to my eye as I did it. I thought it would come across as weird or crazy, and so would be ignored.
There is wisdom in what you said, and it's wisdom I have heard before. It's something I've sought since my heart turned as a young man. The wisdom of religion.
I'm not sure I can heed it, though. Your particular instance of it, I mean. There's another voice in my heart, and it's telling me it's not time to walk away. It's telling me it's time to fight.
My people are coming for your people, and I know how to fight them. I know how to win. I know how to use their own weapons against them.
It's time to fight.
Take heart! I would never call it foolishness. Maybe naive to think people can listen. The atheist position is inherently grandiose, in presuming to have The Answer🤣I often remember from The Gospel of Mark, doesn't Jesus caution those who witness his miracles to "...Don't tell anyone!" It's simply built in, how incomprehensible is all this
@@carlorizzo827 Thank you for your words of reassurance, brother. I can't tell you what that means to me. I have received such kindness from our Lord's people, and from our cousins who drink His wine from other cups. It strengthens me.
But you are wrong about your enemy, about my people, and therein lies your vulnerability... and their strength. They do not believe they have the Answer, as you said. They believe they have the method of finding answers. And they are right to think this, because it's true. This method is their weapon, and it is the reason why you're losing so much ground to them, and so quickly, at least in the West. It will not be long before it's everywhere. Their intention is to use it to destroy you. All of you.
But like I said, it's time to fight. Which for me means it's time to write. I'm going to return to formal study, to write, to publish, and to use that to fight them.
They have their weapon, their method of enquiry. But we have ours. It, too, is a method of enquiry, a method of critique, and a method of effecting progress. We have contemplative prayer.
Our doctrines- our cup- will be no defence, but contemplative prayer will be. Indeed, it's more than a means of defence; it will be our means of attack. With it, we will take the fight to them. They do not understand it, but they will. That is how we will defeat them. We will not destroy them, but welcome them as the people of the eleventh hour. You have been with Him since the first, but His love will be poured out for them in equal measure. First or eleventh, it doesn't matter to Him. They, too, will drink His wine... from a new cup.
Thank you for sharing this wine with me. I am strengthened by it. Pray for me... and them.
"If you say you love God, who you don't see and do not love your fellow man, who you do see, then you are a liar!"
Day 4 of asking him to make a Video on the Gospel of Barnabas
Christmas celebration in bethelem was cancelled due to the genocide in Gaza. Why not make a video about it? You have an amazing channel and a huge platform...
The "potential intellect" could be the mediator between the active and passive intellects.
I interpret it in a similar way!
What are your views on the idea of Christianity being the universal religion
People would freak at the renouncing vows or practice for a better way, as they say there is only one way. However, this what made them so mad, saying it was not the full way. And also saying, not even a bishop or pope has reign to excuse that person... That person has more direct orders from God than the outward figures do- or they would be able to reason with him their claim! As is still, i don't think people really avoid discussion with me, just that they usually just quote scipture here and there, then have no explanation to put it in cintext with their arguments and so forth. I go ahead and postulate the why of the rehearsed verse, and then use it possibly in my court as well!
They say you need tonexplai yourself, true. And most likely why people are just silently observing. Good ( and this includes the legality of marriage vows as well...)
Intuition
Potential intellect could be understood as Creator Conciousness or Pure Witnessing or Awareness, but void of subject/object conceptuality.
Interesting! That would indeed explain how it sort of "percieves" the active and passive at the same time.
First
I consider my comments a charity... To openly discuss i would love. But above all i get the message to apply myself with other people
In yhe first sermon i think, he speaks becoming a prophet. The need to cloister back away in reflection and intimate seeking time is needed. We whonunderstand this are not going to be fully with the world's societ so much where we can't have that inward time, i think he is saying, or the truth i have come to find anyway
I have experienced intrusive mind reading and commentary, i think just to reinforce this, that your sanctuary in mind is with God! Yeah it's disturbing at first lol, now i can't have a better companion
Then this labeling objectifying always searching part, i find, as im a reasoning philosopher as well, i don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, i keep balls in the air, and it will come around sticking to something later. Just helps to be stoic and a mere observer as possible with this.
And then i have to say, im pretty sure meditation is not about the denial of thoughts at all... We are philosophy creatures, i want my philosophers of old times back in the new age! We can change our minds daily, frequently, this is whats in danger today with quoting people and making it a horrible stain. It stains us all and keeps us chained to some rock. Enough of this! When we do find this ground, spare yourself and everyone of being in a chain gang with pick axe! Not what the tool is for im sure of it ( and the images He actively seeds in my mind are all of things that are and what ever was, for us to pick our way through the allegorical forest on our narrow winding paths less traveled, which there are many one would conclude...i often get loony tunes! Movies! Everything is for us to use here)
Hes always acting is best exemplified in my knowing is inspiring secular rock and roll. Why would they, a rock star person, be saying those things? Fear not! There is no devil oustide the God's far reaching influence first. (And these esoteric orders of man must actually be in our better interests as ive seen unfolding before me, and i feel repentant towards whom i once velieved unfavorable things... Humanity wants the Godly vision far more so than evil can keep up with)
I love it. The first positive meaning of desert i have found. How many instances in all references found are now in his Godly light, transformed and beautiful?! Soundgarden... Etc etc
And i say, with this new job with God, i can only live moment to moment, cant really plan anything, He might have different ideas. When i do sit with family, i always have a way He can comment, be there, spirit box with text. Always saying things to make me feel good about mysekf, as it usually doesn't go over well. I akways give opportunity for his word to be there. Its really like a form of divination, letting him pick from a wide range... As he does with music at random etc. Same thing. We fear not
Wow. Validated my channeling of outward works all being used! It is very cool, just like that ( because i comment while i go, or before in some cases, then more as i go, i just can't refrain from it)
Oh and much music i love has become, mm idk... Sounds bad. Until it eventually is good again. It will be, but must be ready to through anything out, any preconceived beliefs as well, as a snake needs to shed skin. It will be good, have faith. It nust be experienced, sometimes frightfully, that everything else will forsake you and not remain constant and good, so that then you'll know that feeling and know it is not found in God
Perhaps some hadith or sufi stories during Ramadan?