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I live in a bad neighborhood, and there are plenty of different ways criminals use come-ons like this to gain entry to your residence, or to distract you for the purpose of robbing you
@@gblargg its best to emphasize only officers WITH a warrant, never let cops into your house unless they have a warrant. I think there is some exceptions where they can gain entry but never let them take a look around inside and dont talk to them
@@ICE0124 Don't even answer the door unless they say they have a warrant (and they WILL if they do). Once you get into a conversation you will be weak.
Solution: if someone you don't know is at your door and they make claims like this, or want a reason to enter your home, just tell them you will dial 911 and the police will come and do the investigation for them. That way there's an official report, the police as witness, and all parties should be safe. If they are a scammer, they'll leave. Under no circumstances should anyone let a stranger inside their own house, no matter the reason.
Legit question. Who the hell are these people letting complete strangers in their house for any reason. I couldn't care less if they said their lost dog was in my house I'm not letting anyone in in todays world.
@@ChicagoMel23I'd just not open the door in any. If you're not one of my friends or a delivery driver and I actually ordered something I'm just going to ignore your existence.
The worst thing about this is if a person has lost his phone or laptop for real if he asks other people about this they will be less likely to trust and help them now.
Yes! And I’ve seen UA-cam videos about people trying to recover their phones, and what it’s like in the other direction. I’ve even had my iPad taken and handed in at a police station, but not before it visited a few addresses overnight.
@@ChrisAtheist But in either of those cases, you would know that a missing phone was actually in your house, so you would believe the person. But if you didn't know the person, and you hadn't found or stolen a phone, then the chances that a stranger lost their phone in your house are pretty low.
@@cymeriandesigns always have cameras facing other cameras. Living in the middle of nowhere I have multiple exterior cameras and you can see every camera from another camera. There are interior cameras on all entrance points too.
The way you say, makes me think in your country (USA, i guess?) most people leave their home open. Is that a thing? I basically have it in my dna to double check i locked the door, so i just find it stramge
Back in the 80's we had a similar thing. 2 women showed up to our house (i was at school) and they were "demo'ing" some kind of 'miracle cleaner' and my naive mom let them in. they went around the house showing it can clean this and that. What they were really doing was casing the house, and getting info. they used conversation to get info. they got my mom to mention she wouldn't be home the next day, and sure enough they came back with men and robbed us the next day.
As someone who used to *ahem* "super legitimately fly all around the world" to play Pokémon Go, I can tell you now, it is extremely easy to mock your location to anywhere you want. There is a possibility they used that to generate a false ping in a house too
Yesnthere are several ways. you could use a drone, or spoof the wi-fi signals, or even spoof the GPS timing signals, there may also be a way (at least there is on android) to easily spoof the location as a developer setting. Or just doctor the screenshot
That's why I have security cameras. Before i got my security cameras, a guy showed up to my house and wanted me to let him inside. Saying, he was diabetic. I called 9/11 and he was gone by the time the police officer showed up. He probably used to lived in the neighborhood, but I wasn't going to let him in my house.
This seems like it would have become a nuisance significantly sooner than it has. I already knew that the find my device ability/ app was able to be exploited. The next thing is that find my networks are not actually that reliable and they can be exploited by the very same phone that is supposedly lost is the same one that is being used to show the supposedly lost device.
Yes, absolutely use the emergency line, there is a stranger at your front doorstep who's intentions you don't know the true nature of, and at that point they refused to leave when asked, it's become trespassing.
Had a creepy experience that was similiar where Got a knock on my door at 9:30. Lights in our house were off downstairs and it was day before thanksgiving. I go to the door and say who is it. Not opening my door after dark at that hour. They say something inaudible, and I ask what they want? They say to sell me lemonade and take off running. I immediately turn on exterior house lights. Retreat upstairs to see what I can see from the upstairs windows. I end up calling non emergency police number and file a report. Don’t appreciate people casing me or my neighbors. And if it’s a kid I dont want them getting shot for a prank.
I don't have a useful comment to make about this sort of obvious scam except to say, be sure your back door and other entrances are LOCKED before you answer the front door. Taking a pic is a good thing but don't be surprised if the thief snatches your phone and runs. You could say, "I'll close the door and then call the police for you." The reaction should be telling. Unfortunately, even when they succeed, crimes like this rarely result in arrests, recovery and prosecution.
There is 3 million dollar law suite on a city and the police dept. right now. In 2022 a Police Dept. asked for a search warrant based on a guy saying that his iPhone was in a 62-year-old black women house. The polece went in with a swat team with AR-15's while the elderly woman was taking a shower. She got thrown to the floor and hand cuffed by men when she had no cloths on. State appeal court ruled the judge that issued the warrant and the police Dept. didn't obey the state laws. So the city and the police got suied. State law protected the judge from getting sued. THE POLICE AND JUDGE DIDN'T VERIFY BY A SECOND SOURCE ON THE MAIN COMPLAINT THAT THE STOLEN IPHONE WAS IN THE HOUSE OR ON THE POPERTY. The police didn't find the Iphone during the raid.
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@@Fatman305 people are crazy the neighborhood I grew up it was about 26-28 years ago someone guy lets call him Mike owned another guy let's call him Tom about 20Bucks after a few months he still didn't pay back, and then Tom had tied Mike with a rope naked to the car and drove off
It reminds me of Nick Robinson's video about gameboy that got stolen from his girlfriend, long story short he harassed the neighborhood printing posters and knocking on the doors because his airtag was in that general area. He actually found his gameboy that airport baggage handler stole, but whole thing was weird and police told him that he should stop
Not sure about Apple devices, but when using the "Find my device" software for samsung, there is an option to make the lost device ring at max volume, regardless ofthe devices current sound setting. If the device has or is connected to a network (mobile or wifi) then it can be commanded to do that from any location. However, if the device doesnt have any data access, but you are in range of it with another device on the same account, you can give it the ring command, as well as an option to "search nearby" which basically the device you are using for searching will play a fun game of "hot or cold" with the lost device lol other words l, tells you when you are getting close or farther away. Saved me a few times when leaving my phone in a customer vehicle after working on them.
Robbers are getting so many sofisticated methods. in the location i live, some neighbors just threaten me to burn my house if i call the police/electricians about they stealing electricity from my house and charging me like 5-6 times the amount i pay.
"Hey, dont call the police, or else i'll burn the house down" > is energy-jacking ??? Everything about this comment involves illegal shit, just send what they said to the police, at least 3 different charges 1. Theft 2. Arson 3. Malicious Intent to cause hurt/damage
Tell them I know where you live just as much as you know where i live. Also tell them that you have also told other people in you life where they live should your house ever catch fire. Do not tell them what you are "Going to do to them" so you can keep it legal, no need for threats. Just let them know that you know. Also start recording them any chance you get! Also stay strapped or get clapped!
People assume the tech is more powerful than it is, like the phone has a 24/7 GPS tracker. It can look like that when the device is on and traveling with a well stocked and fully connected path of i devices, but it's not as powerful as people think. Sadly people have even convinced unknowing police departments into thinking someone had their phone and police came in and searched, meanwhile the phone was a block away. Can't remember if that was a warrantless search, or if the judge rubber stamped it, but it was wrong either way because everyone thought the tech was exactly like GPS.
Something I thought of was to ask that person for the number of the missing phone. That way if it's for real, you should be hearing the ringtone coming from that phone when you dial it from yours.
Google Dashboard (Android's equivalent) can not only see its location but also make it make a dang loud noise. I would just tell 'em to use that while I go look.
Oh course it's easy to spoof! Their lost phone will definitely appear in your house, as it lies in their pocket while they stand in front of your front door.
I think that the scheme is simpler than that. The scammer is expecting the resident to say "No I only have my IPhone here". The scammer would then just say "Please, show it to me to prove that it is indeed yours and I'll leave". And when the resident takes out his IPhone to show it, the scammer just grabs it and runs away. In many cases, an IPhone may actually be the most valuable thing in a house for reselling on the black market, and the scammer makes the unsuspecting resident bring it to him at the door. It seems to be an increasing trend: convince the victim to bring or give you the value instead of searching for it and risking leaving a messy trail of evidences.
3:25 - The green/grey thing is complete BS, at least with AirTags. One of my dogs has one on his collar because he never fails to amaze by his fence-climbing skills. He once ran next to a neighbour's house and came back. I was out for a couple of days, so none of my devices could have connected to the AirTag. The circle kept shining bright green, stating the location is "current" for *3 days*.
i have never heard of that before, we never had anybody come to our house with a story like that, not that i can think of anyway but that's the most creepiest thing i've ever heard that's crazy.
This happened to me one. I do UniFi network installs and prepped somebody’s house network at my own house then installed it a week later. His phone was showing my address on find my. Turns out Apple labeled those MACs of the APs to my house and when his iPhone checked in, it used that instead of gps data.
Get cameras and something like a ring doorbell. Never open your door to a stranger you aren't expecting. If you answer never let them know if you aren't home. Find a random phone? Drop it off at a police station.
I had a similar thing happen to me about a year ago, and while I've never heard about this type of scam before, my scam-senses were tingling. On one hand it was completely possible that the woman's sob story was true and she just handled it in a weird way, but on the other hand some things just felt off to me. I assumed that the end goal of the scam would be rubbery in some shape or form, so I was extremely cautious about the whole situation.
A few weeks back someone came to the door at my house and offered to do yard work. A friend (answered the door) felt like something was "off"about the guy; their gut feeling. They gave him a firm no after asking if he had a business card. Now that I've learned about that, it was most likely the scam that was mentioned. The back door pretty much stays locked, which is even more important now.
And the worst part is that I can't navigate or find the bloody "unsubscribe" thing that they have a button for but then it links to some random site and I get lost. >:I
I left my ipad recently on a bus recently and can confirm that some of the statements made are true, especially from a moving device. It can show up on houses facing the roadside the bus passes and will go offline as the bus starts moving, the suddenly popping up at the next stop. Its kind of a feature not be constantly pinging the location, a dead ipad cant be tracked but the frequency could be better
even if someone tried breaking in they probably get annoyed by my dog who jumps on people in a playful way since he's a big dog Australian Cattle Dog x Staffordshire Bull Terrier so we keep him inside if someone's outside. I'm not in U.S so i don't think this will ever happen since I've never heard about this.
Also there are families that go around and ask you if you need work done on your home and while they are working the kid asks to use your bathroom and you let him go in not watching and the kid robs you. Happened to my neighbor across the street. The kid robbed her of 2000 in cash that she had in her bedroom.
Thank you for addressing these issues. I had a door to door ‘selling’ phone contracts- AS IF SCAMMER. It was cold 🥶 outside so could he come in? Again AS IF.
10:45 on a Friday night. Guy pounding at the door looking for someone. Ring camera and driveway alarms going off. Before I got to the door I called 911 (I am a firefighter paramedic and know all of the officers including the dispatchers) Dispatcher says There should be 2 cruisers in your driveway. Yep there are (within 30 seconds) Here this guy and his friend were being chased for expired tags and thought they would find the first house on the street. Wrong house!
Well, I lost my phone recently, and since I have no other phone, I had to look up its location on my PC, memorize it, and then go to where it was. I have a pretty good memory, but still ended up going through some dozens homes before finally getting to the right one. So just saying, some people are genuinely looking for lost phones. The phone was picked by some nice people who tried to be helpful, but since the only thing I knew is that it was in a place that I haven't even walked by, I assumed someone might have stolen it, so ironically, while genuinely looking for a phone I was walking around with a taser ready in case I came up on some actual criminals.
I had a middle-aged man and a guy in early twenties show up .. I went outside , and they said they had a freiends phone , the friend is missing, and his phone points back to my house .. I said your friends not here .. he stayed parked outside for about 10 minutes and left...they should of reported their friend missing
The distraction effect is VERY old, probably as old as houses, property, and theft have existed. Back in the 1970s that happened here. Um, the person trying to get in the window met a solid wall of "stuff". My partner's mother was a hopeless packrat with a floor to ceiling "pack". I keep heat available very near the door these days. We also have several cameras around the place. {o.o}
I have a big red sign on the front of my house that says, nobody’s allowed to knock on my door. And some people ignore it and knock on my door and I yell at them through the door. I don’t care if it’s an old lady or a little kid, there’s no reason for anybody to be knocking on my door.
There is a video here on YT from a guy who says multiple people keep showing up at his house looking for their devices. Best guess was that there was a thief nearby and the stolen phones were talking to this homeowner's phone via bluetooth.
People like these ruin it for those who are in a real emergency and need assistance. I was in that situation a couple of times and it felt awful that no one helped me, but I know that there was no ill intention.
I think the best thing to do in any situation like this is to call the police. If they're genuinely just looking for their phone, they can make a report about it to the police, and if they're nefarious actors, they will most likely be scared off by you calling the police on them.
We don't answer the door for anyone unless we are expecting someone. After you've been bothered by enough door to door sales people, you stop answering your door. We only answer if we know who it is. We do have a camera to see who is at the door, mostly to see when our Chinese take out is here. If I don't know who it is I don't open the door. Also you should ALWAYS keep your door locked when you are home as too many places have it where if your door is unlocked anyone can just walk in and you cannot touch them as they are only trespassing and not breaking and entering so akk you can do is tell them to get out but you cannot threaten bodily harm on them. Ask me how I know.
As I was about to cross the road to get on a tram, someone came up to me to ask for help finding their lost phone, I said I only had 10 minutes, he said that's fine. his story was that he was drunk the night before. He had me look around the public area in front of a couple of houses, near where I was, but he kept asking me to call his phone, and asking me why not when I refused. I don't want someone I don't know to have my number to potentially do anything with. I don't know how to call a phone (Australia) without revealing that, without paying for 'burner' services. I don't know if it was a scam, I don't know if I did the right/wrong thing. He did not sound drunk in the slightest when talking to me. What should I have done in this case?
How long do people stay drunk in your location? If he was drunk enough to still be drunk the next day he probably would not remember anything about losing anything and certainly wouldn’t be out walking around looking for it. I get the point about not calling the phone for him because it could be a charge per minute line but if it seemed to be a local area code and country code I would probably have called it.
Your home is your fortress. Do not let strangers in for a random reason. Chances you'll regret it later are huge. If they claim anything "legitimate" - ask them to come back with the police or even better, call the police yourself. Or at least just don't open. Demand, that they leave your property immediately or you call the police. You are the king of your castle, you decide who gets in or who doesn't. It doesn't matter how "legitimate" and "convincing" the stranger(s) may sound. This is their job, they know how to sound convincing and how to psychologically put pressure on you. Be smart and do not let strangers into your home.
It happened to me once. After the person left, I did some research about the Find my Phone settings on my iPhone. I immediately turned off the Find my Phone network setting, which prevents my phone from being picked up by other Apple devices in order to track them. This way, if anyone else shows up at my front door for this reason, I know it's a scam.
Had this happened at my place recently, I live in a block with 6 flats, and they claimed it was deffo in my place the pins there I said mine or the 2 above or the one below this was over my intercom
If you have a door cam, use it - don't open the door The short answer is "I don't have it" - if they push - tell them to call the police and don't come back without a warrant If they push more - call the police
You wouldn't let the police search your home without a search warrant, so why would you allow a stranger off the street to rummage through your personal life?
This happened to me and I live in Spain. I didn't buy their story for a second and they just pretended that the location changed (it was just a screenshot) and left.
There are inexpensive devices that can broadcast a fake GPS signal, it can be programmed to transmit one location, or a string of locations/waypoints. The same device can also be used to jam the WiFi, BT and GPS if they want. You can't trust "find my whatever" apps.
First off I don’t open my door to anyone I don’t know. Secondly I would only converse thru the door if at all . Thirdly if I did converse thru the door I would advise let’s call police to sort out the issue . If they continue to argue about the situation or act aggressively about trying to enter I would advise them I do have a gun & will not hesitate to protect myself & my home.
If people try to get any information or service from you in person, ask for their identification. If they do not have identification then do not trust them. Even if they do show identification a photo of it should be taken and it should be reported to the police (non-emergency, online) if anything seemed suspicious. You're in control; it's their choice to not get answers/help by not having/showing ID. For that matter you can do this same thing to good-samaritans/friendly-people that you meet in foreign countries as a tourist/visitor. If they don't want to show their ID or even have their photo taken then they should not be trusted.
I had some tweakers come up on my property last week. I was able to escort them down the road without incident. They were bold. Luckily I was right near by on my tractor.
Robbers are just straight up evil and greedy if they act like they need help and out of nowhere a whole group of people around the corner breaks in stealing things, not even just doing it because they need to do it and they can't find anything else to do at this point which made them sound atleast a small bit good
A few weeks ago some guy rings my door bell a couple of times; the very second I open the door, he barely looks at me and just claims he's at the wrong place, doesn't even says hi not looking surprised or confused at all and then leaves immediately without any further explanation, driving away without checking anything else around, his vehicle parked away from my driveway and cameras, he used the front yard to walk in and out from the property. If I see someone I didn't expect open the door when I'm calling, I ask for the person I'm looking for first before assuming and leaving. I ask to confirm what house number this is, then maybe ask for the specific place I'm looking for, stuff like that, right? I park in the garage, don't go outside to often, live alone, no pets, no visitors ever, no too much furniture (larger 4 bedroom house, only kitchen, main bedroom and studio have any furniture), barely any interaction with the neighbors, extremely efficient with my energy use you can hardly ever see any lights being used from the curb. My hypothesis is not a theft attempt, but being probed by squatters.
Well, I live a good way off the road, but if free dogfood comes to house I won't object, the pigs can have the rest. And it seems the dogfood will bring me a free iPhone too? Sounds great!
Yeah, if a ranodm stranger said thier phone wasi n my house, and i've never sene the m before uh yeah i'm not letting them in period. "like uh how it in my house you never been here before"
One day the Police came to my home and asked me about some iPad that was stolen and that they needed to come into my residence to check, I told the Police to leave they will not be gaining access to my home and thus they have no search warrant, the iPad I told the police may have the wrong GPS because GPS on devices do not tell the whole truth, Police demanded that I open the door or else they will destroy my door and take me to Jail, I told the Police to leave there is no one coming in my home. I also told the Polce that this city will be sued again after that lost the lawsuit one month ago for wrongful entry of the wrong home and killing two dogs at the wrong home. The Police tried their best to scare me with a felony and destroying my doors and taking me to Jail. They left, they said they'll be back in a few minutes, they stayed for an hour parked outside my driveway soon they left never to come back.
6:22 YES! See this is why owning a gun for home defense is kinda pointless. 99.9% of burglars are looking for an easy target i.e. no resistance. If they encounter resistance, they immediately run. Similarly, if nobodies home, but you have an alarm, they'll run the second it goes off.
Hi Thio, Love your videos. Would like to know your opinion on how to manage a stolen iphone. My girlfreind phone got stolen and im not sure how to properly manage her icloud account and if erasing the phone data is nessesary. And also will the phone stay locked after it has been erased? Thanks
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@@adrianharvey3501 same with me
@ThioJoe no
Just like that airman, I always carry a gun when answering the door.
I live in a bad neighborhood, and there are plenty of different ways criminals use come-ons like this to gain entry to your residence, or to distract you for the purpose of robbing you
Best to just not answer the door for anyone, unless they're officers claiming to have a warrant.
@@gblargg its best to emphasize only officers WITH a warrant, never let cops into your house unless they have a warrant. I think there is some exceptions where they can gain entry but never let them take a look around inside and dont talk to them
@@ICE0124 Don't even answer the door unless they say they have a warrant (and they WILL if they do). Once you get into a conversation you will be weak.
@@gblargg ''claiming'' while wearing uniform costume
if they claim they have a warrant you can ask them to slide it under the door and take a look at it yourself.
Solution: if someone you don't know is at your door and they make claims like this, or want a reason to enter your home, just tell them you will dial 911 and the police will come and do the investigation for them. That way there's an official report, the police as witness, and all parties should be safe. If they are a scammer, they'll leave.
Under no circumstances should anyone let a stranger inside their own house, no matter the reason.
Legit question. Who the hell are these people letting complete strangers in their house for any reason. I couldn't care less if they said their lost dog was in my house I'm not letting anyone in in todays world.
Elderly and vulnerable
Of course each situation is different but I'd be unwilling as well to let anyone in my house in most situations
probably the same people who answer all those scam calls from unknown numbers
Or ppl who are too nice for their own good.
@@ChicagoMel23I'd just not open the door in any. If you're not one of my friends or a delivery driver and I actually ordered something I'm just going to ignore your existence.
The worst thing about this is if a person has lost his phone or laptop for real if he asks other people about this they will be less likely to trust and help them now.
Yes! And I’ve seen UA-cam videos about people trying to recover their phones, and what it’s like in the other direction. I’ve even had my iPad taken and handed in at a police station, but not before it visited a few addresses overnight.
But how would a stranger lose his phone in your house?
@@robhullukyou could have found it,or stole it but then who is dumb enough to steal a phone?
The price we all pay for living in the USA in 2024.
@@ChrisAtheist But in either of those cases, you would know that a missing phone was actually in your house, so you would believe the person. But if you didn't know the person, and you hadn't found or stolen a phone, then the chances that a stranger lost their phone in your house are pretty low.
Security cameras are your friend, most criminals will avoid properties where they are visible
I think you can even get fake ones that look real and have a little red light on them. Could work as a deterrent.
Good idea to have an obvious one and the REAL one elsewhere. Some thieves have been known to disable cameras before they begin looting.
@@cymeriandesigns always have cameras facing other cameras. Living in the middle of nowhere I have multiple exterior cameras and you can see every camera from another camera. There are interior cameras on all entrance points too.
If you live in a big city, you learn to NEVER open your door for ANYONE.
But what if my mom visits
The way you say, makes me think in your country (USA, i guess?) most people leave their home open.
Is that a thing?
I basically have it in my dna to double check i locked the door, so i just find it stramge
@@no_name4796 No, you leave the door locked and if someone knocks on it, you ignore them.
@@estusflask982you don't always ignore them but you check who it is before opening and are really cautious if you aren't expecting anyone.
I have lived in multiple countries in Europe Asia and latina America and never seen some one just leave their home open.
Back in the 80's we had a similar thing. 2 women showed up to our house (i was at school) and they were "demo'ing" some kind of 'miracle cleaner' and my naive mom let them in. they went around the house showing it can clean this and that. What they were really doing was casing the house, and getting info. they used conversation to get info. they got my mom to mention she wouldn't be home the next day, and sure enough they came back with men and robbed us the next day.
Why would you let any stranger into your home, don't care what they've looking for, tell them to go call the cops and shut the door.
don't open door
As someone who used to *ahem* "super legitimately fly all around the world" to play Pokémon Go, I can tell you now, it is extremely easy to mock your location to anywhere you want. There is a possibility they used that to generate a false ping in a house too
Yesnthere are several ways. you could use a drone, or spoof the wi-fi signals, or even spoof the GPS timing signals, there may also be a way (at least there is on android) to easily spoof the location as a developer setting. Or just doctor the screenshot
That's why I have security cameras. Before i got my security cameras, a guy showed up to my house and wanted me to let him inside. Saying, he was diabetic. I called 9/11 and he was gone by the time the police officer showed up. He probably used to lived in the neighborhood, but I wasn't going to let him in my house.
That was such a poor attempt as well, considering why does being diabetic mean he should be let in lmao
could be having a hypoglycemic episode
@uuu12343 do you know what diabetes is?
He can have a cake outside.
This question is guaranteed to scare these people away, wanting to come into your house to “see it”, effective 110%:
“Do you have a warrant?”
Hello 911, I need an officer to come by...
Looks like I'll be calling 811.
The scammer: y-yknow what? I think I have the wrong house
Best part about this is the person on the other end of the line will probably just tell you not to let em in. No officer needed.
@@Motor_Cackle to figure out where you can dig
This seems like it would have become a nuisance significantly sooner than it has. I already knew that the find my device ability/ app was able to be exploited. The next thing is that find my networks are not actually that reliable and they can be exploited by the very same phone that is supposedly lost is the same one that is being used to show the supposedly lost device.
7:36 "If someone does let them in" Wow, some people haven't yet learned to NEVER RELAX...
Yes, absolutely use the emergency line, there is a stranger at your front doorstep who's intentions you don't know the true nature of, and at that point they refused to leave when asked, it's become trespassing.
Had a creepy experience that was similiar where Got a knock on my door at 9:30. Lights in our house were off downstairs and it was day before thanksgiving. I go to the door and say who is it. Not opening my door after dark at that hour. They say something inaudible, and I ask what they want? They say to sell me lemonade and take off running. I immediately turn on exterior house lights. Retreat upstairs to see what I can see from the upstairs windows. I end up calling non emergency police number and file a report. Don’t appreciate people casing me or my neighbors. And if it’s a kid I dont want them getting shot for a prank.
I don't have a useful comment to make about this sort of obvious scam except to say, be sure your back door and other entrances are LOCKED before you answer the front door. Taking a pic is a good thing but don't be surprised if the thief snatches your phone and runs.
You could say, "I'll close the door and then call the police for you." The reaction should be telling. Unfortunately, even when they succeed, crimes like this rarely result in arrests, recovery and prosecution.
Or talk to them through the camera or doorbell. They are reasonable enough now.
You...are aware that doing this location scam thing isn't a crime, right?
@@anzaca1 it better be
There is 3 million dollar law suite on a city and the police dept. right now. In 2022 a Police Dept. asked for a search warrant based on a guy saying that his iPhone was in a 62-year-old black women house. The polece went in with a swat team with AR-15's while the elderly woman was taking a shower. She got thrown to the floor and hand cuffed by men when she had no cloths on. State appeal court ruled the judge that issued the warrant and the police Dept. didn't obey the state laws. So the city and the police got suied. State law protected the judge from getting sued. THE POLICE AND JUDGE DIDN'T VERIFY BY A SECOND SOURCE ON THE MAIN COMPLAINT THAT THE STOLEN IPHONE WAS IN THE HOUSE OR ON THE POPERTY. The police didn't find the Iphone during the raid.
Ruby Johnson, 77 y.o, won $4m, Denver Colorado. There was another case of someone burning down a house and killing an entire family because he believed they stole his phone based on Find My...
@@Fatman305 people are crazy the neighborhood I grew up it was about 26-28 years ago someone guy lets call him Mike owned another guy let's call him Tom about 20Bucks after a few months he still didn't pay back, and then Tom had tied Mike with a rope naked to the car and drove off
All that man power over an iPhone?
So, how are they supposed to explain a swat team for finding a phone? This makes no sense.
It reminds me of Nick Robinson's video about gameboy that got stolen from his girlfriend, long story short he harassed the neighborhood printing posters and knocking on the doors because his airtag was in that general area. He actually found his gameboy that airport baggage handler stole, but whole thing was weird and police told him that he should stop
The handler must be some high ranking
I thought it was common sense not to let someone you've never met into your home. That would be an invitation to a very dire situation.
Not sure about Apple devices, but when using the "Find my device" software for samsung, there is an option to make the lost device ring at max volume, regardless ofthe devices current sound setting. If the device has or is connected to a network (mobile or wifi) then it can be commanded to do that from any location. However, if the device doesnt have any data access, but you are in range of it with another device on the same account, you can give it the ring command, as well as an option to "search nearby" which basically the device you are using for searching will play a fun game of "hot or cold" with the lost device lol other words l, tells you when you are getting close or farther away. Saved me a few times when leaving my phone in a customer vehicle after working on them.
Robbers are getting so many sofisticated methods. in the location i live, some neighbors just threaten me to burn my house if i call the police/electricians about they stealing electricity from my house and charging me like 5-6 times the amount i pay.
If they threaten to burn your house, you know you can report that to the police right?
They're stealing your electricity and charging you to do it?
"Hey, dont call the police, or else i'll burn the house down"
> is energy-jacking
??? Everything about this comment involves illegal shit, just send what they said to the police, at least 3 different charges
1. Theft
2. Arson
3. Malicious Intent to cause hurt/damage
So I'm assuming you did call the police by now?
Tell them I know where you live just as much as you know where i live. Also tell them that you have also told other people in you life where they live should your house ever catch fire.
Do not tell them what you are "Going to do to them" so you can keep it legal, no need for threats. Just let them know that you know. Also start recording them any chance you get!
Also stay strapped or get clapped!
Rob Rraxman was so right about these low power bluetooth. Incredible that it might point out SOME OTHER device instead of a stolen one !
People assume the tech is more powerful than it is, like the phone has a 24/7 GPS tracker.
It can look like that when the device is on and traveling with a well stocked and fully connected path of i devices, but it's not as powerful as people think.
Sadly people have even convinced unknowing police departments into thinking someone had their phone and police came in and searched, meanwhile the phone was a block away.
Can't remember if that was a warrantless search, or if the judge rubber stamped it, but it was wrong either way because everyone thought the tech was exactly like GPS.
Something I thought of was to ask that person for the number of the missing phone. That way if it's for real, you should be hearing the ringtone coming from that phone when you dial it from yours.
Google Dashboard (Android's equivalent) can not only see its location but also make it make a dang loud noise. I would just tell 'em to use that while I go look.
This happened to me about a month ago, scared the hell out of me. I called the police!
Oh course it's easy to spoof! Their lost phone will definitely appear in your house, as it lies in their pocket while they stand in front of your front door.
I can't believe I didn't think of that until I read this.
Geeze, grey hair started and the brain stopped.
I think that the scheme is simpler than that. The scammer is expecting the resident to say "No I only have my IPhone here". The scammer would then just say "Please, show it to me to prove that it is indeed yours and I'll leave". And when the resident takes out his IPhone to show it, the scammer just grabs it and runs away.
In many cases, an IPhone may actually be the most valuable thing in a house for reselling on the black market, and the scammer makes the unsuspecting resident bring it to him at the door.
It seems to be an increasing trend: convince the victim to bring or give you the value instead of searching for it and risking leaving a messy trail of evidences.
I have a four word mantra IRL and online. “It’s always a scam.”
3:25 - The green/grey thing is complete BS, at least with AirTags.
One of my dogs has one on his collar because he never fails to amaze by his fence-climbing skills.
He once ran next to a neighbour's house and came back. I was out for a couple of days, so none of my devices could have connected to the AirTag.
The circle kept shining bright green, stating the location is "current" for *3 days*.
any apple devices your neighbors or anyone has will also talk to that airtag, explaining why it never went offline
@@marco3392 That would explain it. Yeah.
Except for the fact that there aren't any neighbors within a kilometer...
i have never heard of that before, we never had anybody come to our house with a story like that, not that i can think of anyway but that's the most creepiest thing i've ever heard that's crazy.
Yeahhhh, I live in Texas and you don't want to try ro force your way into my, or any of my neighbors, houses. We will ABSOLUTELY take care of you.
I'd introduce them to the little surprise setup under the doorstep, a garden hose with a high pressure nozzle...
This man does not age
Wait a while until the 40's kick in
@@UmVtCgI hope 40s isn't that bad, same for 30s, but 20s was really bad. I feel like I have the body of an 80 year old.
My 20s was really really bad. That's when I got "Floxed" and my joints started to sound like an old man. It's recovering slowly
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This happened to me one. I do UniFi network installs and prepped somebody’s house network at my own house then installed it a week later. His phone was showing my address on find my. Turns out Apple labeled those MACs of the APs to my house and when his iPhone checked in, it used that instead of gps data.
Typical iPhones lol.
You pull out your gun and say "is this your iPhone?"
Seems a bit excessive
true american
lol
Oh Gossh
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"Get a warrant."
Get cameras and something like a ring doorbell. Never open your door to a stranger you aren't expecting. If you answer never let them know if you aren't home. Find a random phone? Drop it off at a police station.
Some people put them in a mailbox
I had a similar thing happen to me about a year ago, and while I've never heard about this type of scam before, my scam-senses were tingling.
On one hand it was completely possible that the woman's sob story was true and she just handled it in a weird way, but on the other hand some things just felt off to me.
I assumed that the end goal of the scam would be rubbery in some shape or form, so I was extremely cautious about the whole situation.
A few weeks back someone came to the door at my house and offered to do yard work. A friend (answered the door) felt like something was "off"about the guy; their gut feeling. They gave him a firm no after asking if he had a business card. Now that I've learned about that, it was most likely the scam that was mentioned. The back door pretty much stays locked, which is even more important now.
Yeesh. And Samsung just started a Find My Phone network as well.
And the worst part is that I can't navigate or find the bloody "unsubscribe" thing that they have a button for but then it links to some random site and I get lost. >:I
@@SandroWalach Settings -> Google -> Find My Device. That worked for me, anyway.
Thank goodness I’m not helpful to strangers.
I left my ipad recently on a bus recently and can confirm that some of the statements made are true, especially from a moving device. It can show up on houses facing the roadside the bus passes and will go offline as the bus starts moving, the suddenly popping up at the next stop. Its kind of a feature not be constantly pinging the location, a dead ipad cant be tracked but the frequency could be better
even if someone tried breaking in they probably get annoyed by my dog who jumps on people in a playful way since he's a big dog Australian Cattle Dog x Staffordshire Bull Terrier so we keep him inside if someone's outside. I'm not in U.S so i don't think this will ever happen since I've never heard about this.
Also there are families that go around and ask you if you need work done on your home and while they are working the kid asks to use your bathroom and you let him go in not watching and the kid robs you. Happened to my neighbor across the street. The kid robbed her of 2000 in cash that she had in her bedroom.
Thank you for addressing these issues. I had a door to door ‘selling’ phone contracts- AS IF SCAMMER. It was cold 🥶 outside so could he come in?
Again AS IF.
thanks for chaptering the sponsor so people can skip it, good thing👍
10:45 on a Friday night. Guy pounding at the door looking for someone. Ring camera and driveway alarms going off. Before I got to the door I called 911 (I am a firefighter paramedic and know all of the officers including the dispatchers) Dispatcher says There should be 2 cruisers in your driveway. Yep there are (within 30 seconds) Here this guy and his friend were being chased for expired tags and thought they would find the first house on the street. Wrong house!
Well, I lost my phone recently, and since I have no other phone, I had to look up its location on my PC, memorize it, and then go to where it was. I have a pretty good memory, but still ended up going through some dozens homes before finally getting to the right one. So just saying, some people are genuinely looking for lost phones.
The phone was picked by some nice people who tried to be helpful, but since the only thing I knew is that it was in a place that I haven't even walked by, I assumed someone might have stolen it, so ironically, while genuinely looking for a phone I was walking around with a taser ready in case I came up on some actual criminals.
I had a middle-aged man and a guy in early twenties show up .. I went outside , and they said they had a freiends phone , the friend is missing, and his phone points back to my house .. I said your friends not here .. he stayed parked outside for about 10 minutes and left...they should of reported their friend missing
The distraction effect is VERY old, probably as old as houses, property, and theft have existed. Back in the 1970s that happened here. Um, the person trying to get in the window met a solid wall of "stuff". My partner's mother was a hopeless packrat with a floor to ceiling "pack". I keep heat available very near the door these days. We also have several cameras around the place.
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Another one is when someone ask to use your phone to call a tow truck or something too
thank you for video
I have a big red sign on the front of my house that says, nobody’s allowed to knock on my door. And some people ignore it and knock on my door and I yell at them through the door. I don’t care if it’s an old lady or a little kid, there’s no reason for anybody to be knocking on my door.
There is a video here on YT from a guy who says multiple people keep showing up at his house looking for their devices. Best guess was that there was a thief nearby and the stolen phones were talking to this homeowner's phone via bluetooth.
There is something similar happening in the UK as well, had someone saying a laptop was tracked to my appointment.
This is good information--thank you! Don't open the door unless you are expecting someone. A doorbell camera is a great idea.
This never tends to be a problem in my neighborhood. Remember, it's not illegal to answer your door while holding a loaded shotgun.
People like these ruin it for those who are in a real emergency and need assistance. I was in that situation a couple of times and it felt awful that no one helped me, but I know that there was no ill intention.
I think the best thing to do in any situation like this is to call the police. If they're genuinely just looking for their phone, they can make a report about it to the police, and if they're nefarious actors, they will most likely be scared off by you calling the police on them.
We don't answer the door for anyone unless we are expecting someone. After you've been bothered by enough door to door sales people, you stop answering your door. We only answer if we know who it is. We do have a camera to see who is at the door, mostly to see when our Chinese take out is here. If I don't know who it is I don't open the door.
Also you should ALWAYS keep your door locked when you are home as too many places have it where if your door is unlocked anyone can just walk in and you cannot touch them as they are only trespassing and not breaking and entering so akk you can do is tell them to get out but you cannot threaten bodily harm on them. Ask me how I know.
Unless it’s a cop with a warrant I don’t even engage in a meaningful conversation with strangers that shows up on my doorsteps
Tell them to prove it’s their device by pinging or calling it. Or to f••k off and get a police warrant.
As I was about to cross the road to get on a tram, someone came up to me to ask for help finding their lost phone, I said I only had 10 minutes, he said that's fine. his story was that he was drunk the night before. He had me look around the public area in front of a couple of houses, near where I was, but he kept asking me to call his phone, and asking me why not when I refused. I don't want someone I don't know to have my number to potentially do anything with. I don't know how to call a phone (Australia) without revealing that, without paying for 'burner' services. I don't know if it was a scam, I don't know if I did the right/wrong thing. He did not sound drunk in the slightest when talking to me. What should I have done in this case?
How long do people stay drunk in your location? If he was drunk enough to still be drunk the next day he probably would not remember anything about losing anything and certainly wouldn’t be out walking around looking for it. I get the point about not calling the phone for him because it could be a charge per minute line but if it seemed to be a local area code and country code I would probably have called it.
Your home is your fortress. Do not let strangers in for a random reason. Chances you'll regret it later are huge.
If they claim anything "legitimate" - ask them to come back with the police or even better, call the police yourself.
Or at least just don't open. Demand, that they leave your property immediately or you call the police.
You are the king of your castle, you decide who gets in or who doesn't. It doesn't matter how "legitimate" and "convincing" the stranger(s) may sound. This is their job, they know how to sound convincing and how to psychologically put pressure on you. Be smart and do not let strangers into your home.
"I'll call the police right now and you can have them get a warrant."
Only knowledge and facts no BS
It happened to me once. After the person left, I did some research about the Find my Phone settings on my iPhone. I immediately turned off the Find my Phone network setting, which prevents my phone from being picked up by other Apple devices in order to track them. This way, if anyone else shows up at my front door for this reason, I know it's a scam.
"that's three hour old tracking data. I already sold your phone. It's not here now!"
"the iphone belongs to my 7 year old daughter"
lmao what is wrong with this picture
someone actually burned down house and five humans for a dopey phone!!!
Why would you call the non-emergency number? Call 911 immediately!!!!
Had this happened at my place recently, I live in a block with 6 flats, and they claimed it was deffo in my place the pins there I said mine or the 2 above or the one below this was over my intercom
If you have a door cam, use it - don't open the door
The short answer is "I don't have it" - if they push - tell them to call the police and don't come back without a warrant
If they push more - call the police
You wouldn't let the police search your home without a search warrant, so why would you allow a stranger off the street to rummage through your personal life?
apartment users dont have this weakness
This happened to me and I live in Spain. I didn't buy their story for a second and they just pretended that the location changed (it was just a screenshot) and left.
There are inexpensive devices that can broadcast a fake GPS signal, it can be programmed to transmit one location, or a string of locations/waypoints. The same device can also be used to jam the WiFi, BT and GPS if they want. You can't trust "find my whatever" apps.
First off I don’t open my door to anyone I don’t know. Secondly I would only converse thru the door if at all . Thirdly if I did converse thru the door I would advise let’s call police to sort out the issue . If they continue to argue about the situation or act aggressively about trying to enter I would advise them I do have a gun & will not hesitate to protect myself & my home.
I protect my home without a gun. Why can't you?
If people try to get any information or service from you in person, ask for their identification. If they do not have identification then do not trust them. Even if they do show identification a photo of it should be taken and it should be reported to the police (non-emergency, online) if anything seemed suspicious.
You're in control; it's their choice to not get answers/help by not having/showing ID.
For that matter you can do this same thing to good-samaritans/friendly-people that you meet in foreign countries as a tourist/visitor. If they don't want to show their ID or even have their photo taken then they should not be trusted.
I had some tweakers come up on my property last week. I was able to escort them down the road without incident. They were bold. Luckily I was right near by on my tractor.
The best answer is: if a stranger shows up at your house for something like this, talk only through camera.
Thio what monitor do you have, it looks really good with windows
I live in a small town so I don't think that would ever happen to me.
Is common sense dead?
Robbers are just straight up evil and greedy if they act like they need help and out of nowhere a whole group of people around the corner breaks in stealing things, not even just doing it because they need to do it and they can't find anything else to do at this point which made them sound atleast a small bit good
He looks like Dean Winchester🤭 I Cant😭
OMG! Something like this happened to me once 😲😱 I turned them away of course . I didn’t know it was a scam!
A few weeks ago some guy rings my door bell a couple of times; the very second I open the door, he barely looks at me and just claims he's at the wrong place, doesn't even says hi not looking surprised or confused at all and then leaves immediately without any further explanation, driving away without checking anything else around, his vehicle parked away from my driveway and cameras, he used the front yard to walk in and out from the property. If I see someone I didn't expect open the door when I'm calling, I ask for the person I'm looking for first before assuming and leaving. I ask to confirm what house number this is, then maybe ask for the specific place I'm looking for, stuff like that, right? I park in the garage, don't go outside to often, live alone, no pets, no visitors ever, no too much furniture (larger 4 bedroom house, only kitchen, main bedroom and studio have any furniture), barely any interaction with the neighbors, extremely efficient with my energy use you can hardly ever see any lights being used from the curb. My hypothesis is not a theft attempt, but being probed by squatters.
Well, I live a good way off the road, but if free dogfood comes to house I won't object, the pigs can have the rest. And it seems the dogfood will bring me a free iPhone too? Sounds great!
Don't let strangers in your homes people, did your parents not tell you this?!
Does this work in India?
Yeah, if a ranodm stranger said thier phone wasi n my house, and i've never sene the m before uh yeah i'm not letting them in period. "like uh how it in my house you never been here before"
I had this in 2020 at work
If possible note the car plates
One day the Police came to my home and asked me about some iPad that was stolen and that they needed to come into my residence to check, I told the Police to leave they will not be gaining access to my home and thus they have no search warrant, the iPad I told the police may have the wrong GPS because GPS on devices do not tell the whole truth, Police demanded that I open the door or else they will destroy my door and take me to Jail, I told the Police to leave there is no one coming in my home.
I also told the Polce that this city will be sued again after that lost the lawsuit one month ago for wrongful entry of the wrong home and killing two dogs at the wrong home.
The Police tried their best to scare me with a felony and destroying my doors and taking me to Jail.
They left, they said they'll be back in a few minutes, they stayed for an hour parked outside my driveway soon they left never to come back.
"Do you have games on your phone? 👀"
6:22 YES! See this is why owning a gun for home defense is kinda pointless. 99.9% of burglars are looking for an easy target i.e. no resistance. If they encounter resistance, they immediately run. Similarly, if nobodies home, but you have an alarm, they'll run the second it goes off.
Hi Thio, Love your videos. Would like to know your opinion on how to manage a stolen iphone. My girlfreind phone got stolen and im not sure how to properly manage her icloud account and if erasing the phone data is nessesary. And also will the phone stay locked after it has been erased? Thanks
Its funny that UA-cam recommended this to me, an android user.
Why should anyone give access to a random person to their houses?