God, this generation of riders are spoiled. The bike isn't this or that. Just ride the guzzi for what it is, a throwback to an earlier time of classic motorcycling.
Also all the review, test, comparison videos are being done by guys that are completely spoiled with choice and in their own class when it comes to the bikes they ride everyday. These guys ride the best of the best every week and then jump on bikes 30% of the price and say things like the brakes aren't that good or suspension is cheap/could be better but if your an average everyday rider then you are gonna love 99% of the new bikes coming out and almost anything new will feel better than the 40,000 kilometre bike your riding.
YAK they just make you sick ..... how can one honestly give a review on a motorbike by riding it once specially if you ride a different type of bike, just admit it this is your first time you road a dicent bike and that it puts harley davidson to shame LOL
Well one good thing for the Moto Guzzi V7 is that it's easy and simple to do "ALL" your own maintenance. That makes it a winner for me. My old 1976 T140V Triumph Bonneville is the same way and I still own her.
You did a good job when you assessed the bike for what it is: Just a fun, low key, not in your face, "MOTORCYCLE".... with some old time "character" (not a 'sport bike', not a "cruiser", not an Adventure bike, just a plain ol' "motorcycle"). However,... Do your viewers, the motorcycle industry, and manufactures a big favor. "STOP"..., STOP, comparing "EVERYTHING"... to "sport" bikes. IF the ONLY thing EVERY motorcyclist ever wanted was a sport there would ONLY BE sport bikes! STOP making comparisons has to how this bike or that bike compare "as a sport bike", NOT everyone cares. (does it stop and handle decently,is it comfortable, and most importantly... is it FUN?) You bias your viewers into thinking everything needs to perform like a sport bike or it's last on the list and they need to purchase something else. Hugh dis-favor to riders and manufactures (so riders are convinced to buy something they really don't want based on your "professional" assessments). MOST, read again, "MOST" riders don't want EVERY bike to perform like, ride like, handle like, or have the same ergonomics as BMW S100RR, Yamaha R1, or CBR 1000RR. You may not believe this but sometimes, JUST SOMETIMES... we want a bike that's just simply fun to ride, is NOT a "cruiser", and just helps us to enjoy being out riding WITHOUT feeling we 'need' to pass everyone, race everything, or go really fast everywhere. I'm thinking I'm right along the lines for this type of bike, or one of the other in your test ... or maybe a BMW R Nine T, you know... just a plain, simple "motorcycle". Think... about it.
I ride this bike everyday, every season, any weather, and I love it. Not because I compare it to others bikes, no. But because i've got this one, and it's my bike. The one I travel with. What the hell is wrong with our generation of biker, comparing every bike and rating it? Don't rate it, ride it
The styling is timeless. The seating position is the way a motorcycle should be. Who cares how it handles...99% the time in the real street world there is a SUV mom or a Harley poking along keeping you from leaning hard into that curve anyway.
Why is it in competition with these 2 bikes? It should be in with Bonnevilles and other bikes such as, especially with those terrible peashooter exhausts.
How exactly did the V7 get lumped into this? It's not a scrambler - not even a little bit. Ofc it's not good off-road, it's a road bike, a 1299 isn't either, lol. Love the guzzi. It's not a pinnacle of technology, but it's a nice classic for sure.
I have trouble taking these guys seriously with their running shoes and sticking their knees way out trying to hang off the bikes. Hair is a bit silly too.
Having ridden the V7ii for a while around town (both in open roads and heavy traffic) I can 't say I disagree with what you say. BUT the brakes? Guys... I come from riding a sport bike, I am no fan of ABS, and I still thought that the Guzzi 's brakes were awsome. Good feel with plenty of power. So much that I was surprised. I am not sure for the handling though. Ducati Scrambler and Triumph Thruxton (*haven 't ridden Triumph Scrambler) gave me the impression that I could do anything I want with the bike, and flip it as much as I like - even more than many sportsbikes in the case of the Ducati. Didn 't get the same feeling (beyond a point) with the V7ii though. - Could be the destroyed tyres of the demo bike though! Or the rear shocks, since I have read about riders changing them with (even some inexpensive) aftermarket ones and they claim a huge improvement.
+kaveiros75 Actually, in a "vintage bike" (in broad sense, it included, other than the V7, the W800 and the CB1100, also the Scrambler, the XJR1300 and the R Nine T) comparison made by the magazine "Motociclismo", the braking of the V7 was found to be the second best of the lot, bested, and only slightly, only by the R Nine T (two Brembo disks with radial calipers).
Neutron Alchemist Seems like you confirm my observations. So... what 's up with this review then? Could it be that (although it is a 2015 review) the bike seems to be the previous v7 Special, and brakes are improved too in v7ii?
+kaveiros75 Every tester has his tastes, you can't take their statements for truth. For example, the pre-ABS V7s had the same brakes than the ABS ones, and so the braking power and the braking distances are the same, but they had notoriously tougher levers. It was an intended feature, to avoid panic-stops in a bike that was dedicated to beginners too, but a pilot used to more reactive systems can not like the feeling of the additional effort he has to do. Note that also in off-road, too reactive braking systems are a disadvantage.
A MOTO GUZZI doesn't have a "sweet mechanical sound"?? All they do is make noise! Regardless if it's too slow for you or outdated technologically, if you can't have fun riding a V7, that says more about you than the bike.
This test is completely pointless without including other scrambler style motorcycles like the Honda CB1100, BMW R9T, Suzuki Hayabusa, Harley Iron 883, Yamaha Zuma, and, though not a motorcycle, Polaris Scrambler ATV. Also, maybe the Can-Am Spyder.
Mr Waheed, I think you have got a problem with Moto Guzzi. because I have seen few videos that you are trying to attack Guzzi. In one video you compare Triumph thruxton with Guzzi special. and mourn about it. Come on you got guzzi cafe racer to compare with thruxton not with special. And in this video you compare Triumph and Ducati scrambler with Guzzi special. and mourn about it. Hello If you want to compare Scramblers with Guzzi scramble that you can get customised version of Guzzi. Is this not hypocracy and duplicity huh.
Yeah, italian pronounces every letter, the "u" is deep and the hesitation after the first "z" produces a slight "tz" but not emphasised stop, "gooz-zi"
I thought you would have at least the scrambler conversion kit for the V7II to make said comparison(s).... great bike but NOT a scrambler in its present form nor has the V7 Special ever been advertised as such!
It's a V7 special, not a scrambler. Look at the shocks, their appearance breath classic. So no wonder they don't do perfect off road. And yes modern riders are spoiled. Back in the days I rode a '72 honda with 130-140 km/h max and was able to get in with the superbikes soon as they hit tight corners. My '77 xs650 wobled her ass in the corners but felt my footpegs go up and down over the tarmac. Won't go that crazy any more as I have a major accident behind me and will enjoy more the touring style /being outside etc. You have a point when comparing it to the ducati scrambler, but it is a completely different bike then a V7 Classic.
Back when the Great Escape was made 1960's there were already Full Face Helmets. It's silly to see Scrambler posers riding with open face Helmets. IF your really Scrambling or just riding around town Full face is the safety threshold you need to have. A know a guy that had a very low speed crash where he hit the curb with his face. 7 operations and he still has problems. Promoting these bikes with the silly open helmet life style look is just wrong.
2nd Oldest Motorcycle Brand in the World.... Classic real motorcycles. Air Cooled, transverse V twin, shaft drive, virtually hand built. Not the fastest, not the smoothest, not the most capable, but a motorcycle you experience.... TRY ONE!
God, this generation of riders are spoiled. The bike isn't this or that. Just ride the guzzi for what it is, a throwback to an earlier time of classic motorcycling.
Well said, sir.
Also all the review, test, comparison videos are being done by guys that are completely spoiled with choice and in their own class when it comes to the bikes they ride everyday. These guys ride the best of the best every week and then jump on bikes 30% of the price and say things like the brakes aren't that good or suspension is cheap/could be better but if your an average everyday rider then you are gonna love 99% of the new bikes coming out and almost anything new will feel better than the 40,000 kilometre bike your riding.
YAK they just make you sick ..... how can one honestly give a review on a motorbike by riding it once specially if you ride a different type of bike, just admit it this is your first time you road a dicent bike and that it puts harley davidson to shame LOL
weirdshibainu Amen!!
Its a review. So.
We love Moto Guzzi! The V7 is such a hot bike!
Well one good thing for the Moto Guzzi V7 is that it's easy and simple to do "ALL" your own maintenance. That makes it a winner for me. My old 1976 T140V Triumph Bonneville is the same way and I still own her.
if you change the exhaust on the Guzzi it has way better sound than both triumph and Ducati.
You did a good job when you assessed the bike for what it is: Just a fun, low key, not in your face, "MOTORCYCLE".... with some old time "character" (not a 'sport bike', not a "cruiser", not an Adventure bike, just a plain ol' "motorcycle"). However,...
Do your viewers, the motorcycle industry, and manufactures a big favor. "STOP"..., STOP, comparing "EVERYTHING"... to "sport" bikes. IF the ONLY thing EVERY motorcyclist ever wanted was a sport there would ONLY BE sport bikes! STOP making comparisons has to how this bike or that bike compare "as a sport bike", NOT everyone cares. (does it stop and handle decently,is it comfortable, and most importantly... is it FUN?)
You bias your viewers into thinking everything needs to perform like a sport bike or it's last on the list and they need to purchase something else. Hugh dis-favor to riders and manufactures (so riders are convinced to buy something they really don't want based on your "professional" assessments). MOST, read again, "MOST" riders don't want EVERY bike to perform like, ride like, handle like, or have the same ergonomics as BMW S100RR, Yamaha R1, or CBR 1000RR.
You may not believe this but sometimes, JUST SOMETIMES... we want a bike that's just simply fun to ride, is NOT a "cruiser", and just helps us to enjoy being out riding WITHOUT feeling we 'need' to pass everyone, race everything, or go really fast everywhere.
I'm thinking I'm right along the lines for this type of bike, or one of the other in your test ... or maybe a BMW R Nine T, you know... just a plain, simple "motorcycle".
Think... about it.
Well said, I think that just about sums it up.
Cloud9 Amen!!
Well said. I own v7 2013 . And loving it.
I ride this bike everyday, every season, any weather, and I love it. Not because I compare it to others bikes, no. But because i've got this one, and it's my bike. The one I travel with. What the hell is wrong with our generation of biker, comparing every bike and rating it? Don't rate it, ride it
The styling is timeless. The seating position is the way a motorcycle should be. Who cares how it handles...99% the time in the real street world there is a SUV mom or a Harley poking along keeping you from leaning hard into that curve anyway.
Why is it in competition with these 2 bikes? It should be in with Bonnevilles and other bikes such as, especially with those terrible peashooter exhausts.
How exactly did the V7 get lumped into this? It's not a scrambler - not even a little bit. Ofc it's not good off-road, it's a road bike, a 1299 isn't either, lol.
Love the guzzi. It's not a pinnacle of technology, but it's a nice classic for sure.
Definitely the opposite of a pinnacle of technology haha
Not a Scrambler. Repeat NOT a Scrambler. Therefore meaningless test.
Doesn’t sound as good as a triumph twin? I stopped watching after that. The Moto guzzi engine is easily one of the baddest ass sounding on the market
I have trouble taking these guys seriously with their running shoes and sticking their knees way out trying to hang off the bikes.
Hair is a bit silly too.
Jamie McFarlane The whole handkerchief in the back pocket is just too much, seriously, try harder.
why are they riding this bike around in the dirt?
Having ridden the V7ii for a while around town (both in open roads and heavy traffic) I can 't say I disagree with what you say. BUT the brakes? Guys... I come from riding a sport bike, I am no fan of ABS, and I still thought that the Guzzi 's brakes were awsome. Good feel with plenty of power. So much that I was surprised.
I am not sure for the handling though. Ducati Scrambler and Triumph Thruxton (*haven 't ridden Triumph Scrambler) gave me the impression that I could do anything I want with the bike, and flip it as much as I like - even more than many sportsbikes in the case of the Ducati. Didn 't get the same feeling (beyond a point) with the V7ii though.
- Could be the destroyed tyres of the demo bike though! Or the rear shocks, since I have read about riders changing them with (even some inexpensive) aftermarket ones and they claim a huge improvement.
+kaveiros75 Actually, in a "vintage bike" (in broad sense, it included, other than the V7, the W800 and the CB1100, also the Scrambler, the XJR1300 and the R Nine T) comparison made by the magazine "Motociclismo", the braking of the V7 was found to be the second best of the lot, bested, and only slightly, only by the R Nine T (two Brembo disks with radial calipers).
Neutron Alchemist Seems like you confirm my observations. So... what 's up with this review then?
Could it be that (although it is a 2015 review) the bike seems to be the previous v7 Special, and brakes are improved too in v7ii?
+kaveiros75 Every tester has his tastes, you can't take their statements for truth. For example, the pre-ABS V7s had the same brakes than the ABS ones, and so the braking power and the braking distances are the same, but they had notoriously tougher levers. It was an intended feature, to avoid panic-stops in a bike that was dedicated to beginners too, but a pilot used to more reactive systems can not like the feeling of the additional effort he has to do.
Note that also in off-road, too reactive braking systems are a disadvantage.
If you're not after nostalgia, why get a scrambler in the first place? The Moto guzzi is the best bike here. These guys are a bunch of squids.
A MOTO GUZZI doesn't have a "sweet mechanical sound"?? All they do is make noise! Regardless if it's too slow for you or outdated technologically, if you can't have fun riding a V7, that says more about you than the bike.
Easily one of the best sounding engines I’ve ever heard. The sound reminds me of an old 5.0 mustang engine, no joke. Mellow bellowing with authority
This test is completely pointless without including other scrambler style motorcycles like the Honda CB1100, BMW R9T, Suzuki Hayabusa, Harley Iron 883, Yamaha Zuma, and, though not a motorcycle, Polaris Scrambler ATV. Also, maybe the Can-Am Spyder.
Aaron Fink hayabusa is scrambler style?
ok
DaytonaMisfits I am going to say the Busa doesn't quite qualify. I do think they should have tested some of the different IHOP Scrambles.
DaytonaMisfits It was a joke
Aaron Fink He was being ironic.
I assume there wasn't the Stornello available when they did this test, otherwise that is the only V7 version to compete with these bikes.
Mr Waheed, I think you have got a problem with Moto Guzzi. because I have seen few videos that you are trying to attack Guzzi. In one video you compare Triumph thruxton with Guzzi special. and mourn about it. Come on you got guzzi cafe racer to compare with thruxton not with special. And in this video you compare Triumph and Ducati scrambler with Guzzi special. and mourn about it. Hello If you want to compare Scramblers with Guzzi scramble that you can get customised version of Guzzi. Is this not hypocracy and duplicity huh.
+chaminda premawardana When he can't even pronounce the name of the brand correctly I wouldn't give his reviews too much credence.
Yeah, italian pronounces every letter, the "u" is deep and the hesitation after the first "z" produces a slight "tz" but not emphasised stop, "gooz-zi"
Why do they sem surprised that the Moto Guzzi Special feels old, when the Special is the specific old school Moto Guzzi.
But i agre with them if they think that a guzzi like the 'Stone' whould have been easy'er comparison.
This Guzzi is not a scrambler. not even styled like one... Geeze..
+Balrog46 Yes they could have at least got one fitted with the scrambler kit!
I thought you would have at least the scrambler conversion kit for the V7II to make said comparison(s).... great bike but NOT a scrambler in its present form nor has the V7 Special ever been advertised as such!
Dude, "Mosquito Inhale" should be on America's Funniest Home Videos. Classic!
It's a V7 special, not a scrambler. Look at the shocks, their appearance breath classic. So no wonder they don't do perfect off road. And yes modern riders are spoiled. Back in the days I rode a '72 honda with 130-140 km/h max and was able to get in with the superbikes soon as they hit tight corners. My '77 xs650 wobled her ass in the corners but felt my footpegs go up and down over the tarmac. Won't go that crazy any more as I have a major accident behind me and will enjoy more the touring style /being outside etc.
You have a point when comparing it to the ducati scrambler, but it is a completely different bike then a V7 Classic.
this was the Guzzi V7 scrambler, unfortunately never produced in series.
www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/02/02-guzzi-v7-scrambler.jpg
It is a shame that You didn't test the new V7 II with abs and TC...
It isn't available yet in the U.S.
Adam Waheed Will You update results after getting new version ? ;)
jakubpolkowski Probably not, but I'm sure it'll get its own review.
1:10 what jacket is that? Looks good
What is a good motorcycle for a beginner 14 year old
Honda From or Suzuki Tu 250
Back when the Great Escape was made 1960's there were already Full Face Helmets.
It's silly to see Scrambler posers riding with open face Helmets. IF your really Scrambling or just riding around town Full face is the safety threshold you need to have. A know a guy that had a very low speed crash where he hit the curb with his face. 7 operations and he still has problems. Promoting these bikes with the silly open helmet life style look is just wrong.
3:26-Poser
Belle vidéo
Adam WahEEEEED - sounds like he's completely disappointed.
I have no gripes with you including the Moto Guzzi, but you should have used the new version. Maybe a rematch? 😉
Awesome video guys!
I feel like they are playing good cop bad cop
Why would you compare a road bike with scramblers.... MMmmm..... built for totally different purposes...
What the hell is a Moto Goooooooooozi?
+smeghead61 American's take note. forvo.com/word/moto_guzzi/
2nd Oldest Motorcycle Brand in the World.... Classic real motorcycles. Air Cooled, transverse V twin, shaft drive, virtually hand built. Not the fastest, not the smoothest, not the most capable, but a motorcycle you experience.... TRY ONE!
3:24 LOL!!!!
Supple suspension??? BAHAHAHAHA
dream squashers. I'll never buy this bike now
Don't listen to these idiots, the V7 is one of the most fun and endearing bikes I've ever ridden.
Part scrambler, you lost me there no credibility, delete