the badass side was exactly me during my teenage years when I was very mentally unhealthy. I convince myself that I should view my mother as solely a person who gives me financial support (we had very bad relationship) though subconsciously I kinda know that is not what I really think. That is also the reason why I got intp/j a lot during the early years of testing (also the unreliability of online tests of course).
There are both healthy and unhealthy sides to the ISFJ and INTJ energies; especially for a woman, who is going to be more societally pressured to act ISFJ and less encouraged to access her INTJ side. It can be a growth point for certain INFPs to access INTJ.
I had a friend for 13 years who was a INFP, but appeared like a INTJ. She had a lot of trauma and a stressful life, and sometimes she would switch to this cold, black and white thinking, elitist conspiracy theorist lol! It got to the point she was affecting my mental health so badly, I had to end the friendship. I think that's the dark side of this type.
Hi Leon, thanks for the insightful/detailed video on INFPS, and offering another perspective than the stereotypes I have in mind :) very honored to have same type as Audrey Hepburn, and I relate to the ISFJish wholesomeness (as enneagram 9) which can be also unhealthy, but a positive trait in fostering harmony with people and environment. Definately notice when I am disintegrating I would care less about what others think of me but it helps me with creativity/being my authentic self. Wow such an interesting video!
🎯🎯🎯 Leon, this is great ! I have a feeling that the contents in this video are a good blend between MBTI and Socionics. Which is not really happened elsewhere. It was confirmed by what I found from reading about EII subtypes by Meged & Ocharov. INFP with INTJ tendencies is EII-Ne subtype. And that's me.😅😅😅. I'm more related with the descriptions about EII-Ne, feelings like being nailed to a tee. And INFP with ISFJ tendencies is EII-Fi subtype. Always associated with Enneagram 9. Thank you for the efforts of making MBTI and Socionics feel harmonious right here.
I guess it seems like I present both.. I was more INTJ, like in my teenage years, and grew more into my ISFJ phase now. I do my best to integrate both! Just like you ❤️ For context, I am an INFP 4w5 sx/so. Great insights on this topic as well!
Model G shows the opposite. That we are energized going towards our Benefactor's activities. And we loose energy going towards Beneficiary's activities. Healthy INFPs become more like INTJ. And allow others to do ISFP activities for them.
Hey QT i enjoyed this , I like the intj version of the infp they both remind me of my brother but that one even more so , I hope you do the INFJ next ..
Hi Leon short questions. Maybe you mentioned that already but when INFPs enter their Badass side do they develop Ni and Te in the process? And is this obsession towards our inferior also the reason we try to improve it over our ignoring function? It is interesting because I always thought trying to develop your Inferior was the goal essentially. Or maybe it's more a case of improve it regularly but don't get obsessed by it?
Yes, INFPs develop the badass side by going into Ni and Te. We become obsessed with the inferior function, and we tend to feel the ignoring function is a bit exhausting. I think it is natural to get drawn into the inferior function, become obsessed, and perhaps later learn how to pull back from obsessing over it. We learn how to use the inferior more on a day-to-day basis, rather than it become the narrow way from which we view the world in an obsessive manner.
Are types more similar to their mirror or quasi identicals? Perhaps enneagram plays a role but I generally type as either entp or intp whereas other intps can bounce between Intj and intp.
Good question. In many ways I think mirrors can relate to each other in terms of the way they think about the world, and quasi identicals process the world more differently. Mirrors share more of the same content, and identicals share more of the same strengths.
INFPs are abstract thinkers, such as myself. I think I have a video about INFPs being super-intuitives. I use a Socionics model so according to it, both Ne and Ni are strong in the INFP.
SEI is an mbti-ISFP. Not an mbti-ISFJ. Rather ISFJ Guardian = ESI Guardian in Socionics. Because in Socionics FiSe = Relations enforced externally. ISFJs are all about enforcing relations externally. I can show you Gulenko state to Ben Vaserlan that all Socionics and mbti types match except mbti has the wrong cognitive stack for the introverted sensors. That: LSI (TiSe) Inspector = ISTJ Inspector. Because in Socionics TiSe = Laws enforced in the external sensory environment. ISTJs are all about enforcing laws! SEI (SiFe) = Sensory aesthetic mood. Which is exactly what ISFPs care about!!! SLI Craftsman (SiTe) = Keirsey's ISTP Craftsman. ONLY DO THE J AND P SWITCH FOR INTROVERTED INTUITIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mbti has the correct J and P for introverted sensors. Just the cognitive stack wrong. As ALL SPs actually lead with sensation. ALL SJs actually lead with judging.
so then... INFPs are just versions of other personality types???? this seems like you are talking about assertive and turbulent. Hmm. So many assumptions are made about INFPs. Non INFPs should really stop trying to figure out (and most importantly stop telling the world) what INFPs are like because they don't have a clue. Please leave us alone to just BE, Thanks
@@badpoetry33 Yeah I can, I have it bits, still haven't compiled it yet. But I can also just tell you again just explaining while talking. So, theres a lot of reasons why he was an INFP, and its super deep when you bring in why through showing how there is a narrative and progression within the MBTI archetypes. Theologically and mystically, the INFP HAS to be the final seal of the archetypes and is the one who redeems all, this has to do with the function stack. And I can also show you how the Antichrist would HAS to be an ISTP which is the INFP's inverse shadow archetype. But if you want the most simplest Jungian reasoning that is devoid of most of the theological and mystical reasoning, the simple reason is when a type is in "flow" or is in their "actualized" state, their conscious functions are perfectly expressing their shadow type and functions out from themselves. So an INFP would be basically behaving and acting like an ENFJ when they are super on point and effortless in what they do. Now Jesus was enlightened and got over his ego, and thus this was his mode and state all the time after the dove (Holy Spirit) entered him. This is why everyone thinks he is an INFJ because they see his actions functions being expressed in plain black and white writing, so when you read it thats what your mind thinks but this wouldn't of been the case if he was right there in front of you where anyone who is well versed in MBTI would see he is an INFP. There are so many more reasons but yeah thats some right there.
The Warm Silent Hero and the Cold Rebel-Leader
the badass side was exactly me during my teenage years when I was very mentally unhealthy. I convince myself that I should view my mother as solely a person who gives me financial support (we had very bad relationship) though subconsciously I kinda know that is not what I really think. That is also the reason why I got intp/j a lot during the early years of testing (also the unreliability of online tests of course).
There are both healthy and unhealthy sides to the ISFJ and INTJ energies; especially for a woman, who is going to be more societally pressured to act ISFJ and less encouraged to access her INTJ side. It can be a growth point for certain INFPs to access INTJ.
That's interesting. I'll try to see if this matches my observations.
No ESFJ is better for infps. Stop going dark INFPs the world needs your warmth ❤
you must be what you are , and you are indeed apart of an elite class 💋💋💋💋
I had a friend for 13 years who was a INFP, but appeared like a INTJ. She had a lot of trauma and a stressful life, and sometimes she would switch to this cold, black and white thinking, elitist conspiracy theorist lol!
It got to the point she was affecting my mental health so badly, I had to end the friendship.
I think that's the dark side of this type.
Hi Leon, thanks for the insightful/detailed video on INFPS, and offering another perspective than the stereotypes I have in mind :) very honored to have same type as Audrey Hepburn, and I relate to the ISFJish wholesomeness (as enneagram 9) which can be also unhealthy, but a positive trait in fostering harmony with people and environment. Definately notice when I am disintegrating I would care less about what others think of me but it helps me with creativity/being my authentic self. Wow such an interesting video!
Hi Jenny!! I'm glad you relate
I've seen Audrey Hepburn typed as an ISFP. This seems a better fit to me
Recently I have been pulled too strongly toward my intj shadow side. Need to return to the mean for a bit.
🎯🎯🎯
Leon, this is great !
I have a feeling that the contents in this video are a good blend between MBTI and Socionics. Which is not really happened elsewhere. It was confirmed by what I found from reading about EII subtypes by Meged & Ocharov.
INFP with INTJ tendencies is EII-Ne subtype. And that's me.😅😅😅. I'm more related with the descriptions about EII-Ne, feelings like being nailed to a tee.
And INFP with ISFJ tendencies is EII-Fi subtype. Always associated with Enneagram 9.
Thank you for the efforts of making MBTI and Socionics feel harmonious right here.
I guess it seems like I present both.. I was more INTJ, like in my teenage years, and grew more into my ISFJ phase now. I do my best to integrate both! Just like you ❤️ For context, I am an INFP 4w5 sx/so. Great insights on this topic as well!
Model G shows the opposite. That we are energized going towards our Benefactor's activities. And we loose energy going towards Beneficiary's activities.
Healthy INFPs become more like INTJ. And allow others to do ISFP activities for them.
Hey QT i enjoyed this , I like the intj version of the infp they both remind me of my brother but that one even more so , I hope you do the INFJ next ..
So an INFP is never themselves unless they are mediocre ?
Well, that could explain why I tested as "ILI" in Socionics....
Hey Leo. Isn't this turbulent vs assertive
Hi Leon short questions. Maybe you mentioned that already but when INFPs enter their Badass side do they develop Ni and Te in the process? And is this obsession towards our inferior also the reason we try to improve it over our ignoring function? It is interesting because I always thought trying to develop your Inferior was the goal essentially. Or maybe it's more a case of improve it regularly but don't get obsessed by it?
Yes, INFPs develop the badass side by going into Ni and Te. We become obsessed with the inferior function, and we tend to feel the ignoring function is a bit exhausting. I think it is natural to get drawn into the inferior function, become obsessed, and perhaps later learn how to pull back from obsessing over it. We learn how to use the inferior more on a day-to-day basis, rather than it become the narrow way from which we view the world in an obsessive manner.
Are types more similar to their mirror or quasi identicals? Perhaps enneagram plays a role but I generally type as either entp or intp whereas other intps can bounce between Intj and intp.
Good question. In many ways I think mirrors can relate to each other in terms of the way they think about the world, and quasi identicals process the world more differently. Mirrors share more of the same content, and identicals share more of the same strengths.
Interesting that you have Albert Camus typed as someone who uses Fi Ne Si Te and not Ni Fe Ti Se. His abstract thinking comes across pretty easily.
INFPs are abstract thinkers, such as myself. I think I have a video about INFPs being super-intuitives. I use a Socionics model so according to it, both Ne and Ni are strong in the INFP.
My NI is strong (INFP)
Everyone is an infp.
SEI is an mbti-ISFP. Not an mbti-ISFJ.
Rather ISFJ Guardian = ESI Guardian in Socionics. Because in Socionics FiSe = Relations enforced externally. ISFJs are all about enforcing relations externally.
I can show you Gulenko state to Ben Vaserlan that all Socionics and mbti types match except mbti has the wrong cognitive stack for the introverted sensors.
That:
LSI (TiSe) Inspector = ISTJ Inspector. Because in Socionics TiSe = Laws enforced in the external sensory environment. ISTJs are all about enforcing laws!
SEI (SiFe) = Sensory aesthetic mood. Which is exactly what ISFPs care about!!!
SLI Craftsman (SiTe) = Keirsey's ISTP Craftsman.
ONLY DO THE J AND P SWITCH FOR INTROVERTED INTUITIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mbti has the correct J and P for introverted sensors. Just the cognitive stack wrong. As ALL SPs actually lead with sensation. ALL SJs actually lead with judging.
What's your enneagram?
I actually don't know. People say 9, some say 5. But I actually can identify with most of them.
I think you are more 9 than 5… based on this video… because your vibe seems to value harmony and group over cold truth and isolation.
@@badpoetry33 That's what people been telling me
so then... INFPs are just versions of other personality types???? this seems like you are talking about assertive and turbulent. Hmm. So many assumptions are made about INFPs. Non INFPs should really stop trying to figure out (and most importantly stop telling the world) what INFPs are like because they don't have a clue. Please leave us alone to just BE, Thanks
Leon, would you read a paper I wrote on why Jesus was an INFP and not an INFJ like people think?
I’d love to read this paper! Could you send it to me ?
@@badpoetry33 Yeah I can, I have it bits, still haven't compiled it yet. But I can also just tell you again just explaining while talking. So, theres a lot of reasons why he was an INFP, and its super deep when you bring in why through showing how there is a narrative and progression within the MBTI archetypes. Theologically and mystically, the INFP HAS to be the final seal of the archetypes and is the one who redeems all, this has to do with the function stack. And I can also show you how the Antichrist would HAS to be an ISTP which is the INFP's inverse shadow archetype. But if you want the most simplest Jungian reasoning that is devoid of most of the theological and mystical reasoning, the simple reason is when a type is in "flow" or is in their "actualized" state, their conscious functions are perfectly expressing their shadow type and functions out from themselves. So an INFP would be basically behaving and acting like an ENFJ when they are super on point and effortless in what they do. Now Jesus was enlightened and got over his ego, and thus this was his mode and state all the time after the dove (Holy Spirit) entered him. This is why everyone thinks he is an INFJ because they see his actions functions being expressed in plain black and white writing, so when you read it thats what your mind thinks but this wouldn't of been the case if he was right there in front of you where anyone who is well versed in MBTI would see he is an INFP. There are so many more reasons but yeah thats some right there.
Are you an INFP too?
@@shane1948 yes
@@paulkickling7828 Please tell me more