T cells and Natural Immunity to COVID
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2021
- In this video, I talk about the importance and different functions of T cells as it pertains to natural immunity to COVID. People with natural immunity to COVID develop antibodies as well as T cell responses to many different parts of SARS-CoV-2 not just a spike protein. I talk about 2 studies on natural immunity to COVID. As always, there are links to the studies below.
Cell reports Medicine study: www.cell.com/cell-reports-med...
Kentucky study: www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/w...
Newsweek article: www.newsweek.com/does-natural...
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Dr. Keith Moran MD, RCPSC, DABIM, RCS, NBE Biography:
I am a consultant in Internal Medicine with special medical interests in gastroenterology, cardiology, and echocardiography. I am a a full-time practising physician in these areas. I was an undergraduate at the University of Toronto, Trinity College where I received a number of scholarships including one for top student at Trinity College. I attended medical school at the University of Toronto graduating with a gold medal. My internship was completed at McMaster University in Hamilton followed by a residency in Internal Medicine at the University of Western Ontario in London. I then completed a fellowship in General Internal Medicine at the University of Western Ontario. I am an active echocardiographer who has been certified and recertified by the National Board of Echocardiography. I am certified in cardiac sonography and have trained and completely educated a number of cardiac sonographers. I am the medical director of my cardiology laboratory which was established in 2001. My laboratory performs echocardiography and stress echocardiography amongst other tests. I maintain my certification in the American Board of Internal Medicine.
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Dr. Moran,
I need your recommendation or advice! A little background first, I'm in the Army and come 8 Sept they are going to make it mandatory to get vaccinated. I am 30, healthy, fit and also already had COVID. I am going to take the antibodies test on Sunday. I haven't gotten the "shot" for many reasons. And I am contemplating getting kicked out of the military to not get this "shot" if thats the repercussions. But if I don't want to waste my 12 years I already served and hoping to retire in 8. Which vaccine would you recommend? I am leaning towards J&J only because of its "old school" technique.
Anything would help, it seems like I know more about COVID and these "vaccines" than the few doctors I have talked to.
Thank you
Dr I'm currently fighting the virus I have no fever my nose ant running. I had a throat infection and am on a zpack. O2 is good but I feel better laying down then standing. I'm taking elderberry extract and vitamin c and d any thoughts or advice would be appreciated greatly thank u dr
It seems that comments with links are being removed… here you will find a study confirming your views:
Medrxiv:
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Oh hey doc.. WHAT IF.. This 2019 incidence of Covid was in fact a global attempt at an involuntary world inoculation for SARS and MERS as pre-emptive to some kind of knowledge base on those two viruses which we are not privy too.??? Why would China release data on a reported 600 mil dollar upgrade to their laboratory HVAC and Containment, and not just do it silently after all? Looks like a red herring of sorts/ else we would never have seen that in the press... Really, that's basically what they did with the 2009 Spanish Flu outbreak... As "H1N1", and a less deadly form of S.Flu variant was incepted shortly thereafter the initial outbreak event in Mexico if I recall... Was it really any coincidence that a variant of H1N1 then broke out in major centers around the world over the next year.? One that did not kill you dead asap and had a much lower death rate... And really, in terms of the INITIAL COVI viruse and VAX COMPLICATION stats, .5% death rate would be pretty impressive if so with consideration of a 15-35% death rate on SARS and MERS. Still I wonder was a pandora's box accidentally opened in terms of mutation potential..?!?!? You really have to wonder... Call me a curious one, but really I am just searching for some kind on positive sanity in all this contrary to the POSSIBILITY that they might have actually tried to kill us all... If I remain on that positive mindset, I could see where they are pressing the world to get the COVI vax as it would appear POSSIBLE that those who are now COVI Vaccinated may in fact become accidental asymptomatic "mega-spreaders". Every last one of them truly now threatening the un-vaccinated...?? Does Covi Vaccine create "super-spreaders"?? Have to wonder.... AND Finally - Did Prince Philip get his wish. Funny how that statement has not gained more attention... In 1988, Prince Philip said he would like to reincarnate as a deadly virus to solve overpopulation.' And while I believe it is stated that he died at age 99 in 2021, I believe there is a lot of conjecture on his actual death date. Still, I imagine he will have many future COVI variants to choose from in his next manifestation on this Earth....
Just a casual observation from the Peanut Gallery. People with vaccines do get sick, but not as long is what I interpret. Yet when they get their jab they are sick for a bit after they get it. So basically it's "time served" and when you add up the down time for someone with the vaccine compared to someone without the vaccine it is kinda the same down time. Yaw mean?
One of the questions I have for those pushing vaccine passports is: If I already recovered from the cov or have antibodies by test why do I need the jab to qualify for the vaccine passport?
Unfortunately, when something becomes politicized, logic flies out of the window!
The EU Green Pass does recognize naturally immunized (IgG positives). It also has a provision for a negative Covid test within the last 2 days (a big hassle), but at least there are 2 other options besides the jab. It is very frustrating as this is biology 101, not even immunology 101 - this is the result of dumbing down science education where policymakers are ignorant and cause the suffering (losing jobs, no entry, etc.) of others.
@@Mickeycuatropatas You're damn right this is biology 101, I learned some of this stuff in high school.
It's good to know that Israel has a reasonable policy, although the last article I read they were hinting at needing the 3rd shot to have a full green pass.
I'm fundamentally against the vaccine passport because I believe it is the foundation of a social credit system like china has. That and it is coercion for taking an experimental shot. People should never be coerced to take a medical procedural or treatment.
Because our government is taking the easy way out.
Its all about control, its a take over, nothing else makes any sense, just remember this shit all started from the fake PCR tests.
Agenda 21 & Agenda 2030 do a little bit of research its not hard
And that's why I like this channel. Straight to the point, outlines facts and communicates the information in s clear, concise manner. Thank you Dr. Moran!
How do you know they are facts??
My pleasure Lizzy!😀
@@wildpitch1168 Because I've taken the time to research and inform myself on how this pandemic is evolving.
Why don’t people talk like this man. FFS, if everyone were to talk like him people would not be so divided.
Cos he's not in it for money
They like us divided
I believe he may practice in Canada- like most civilized western nations Canada has Medicare for All! See what a difference that makes: Dr's talking common sense, telling the truth to patients, treatments easily available to all who require it, better management of patient data, better hospital management, better management of Big Pharma!
Cause he's not against you or me. Just sharing his knowledge
For thousands of years we have feared the plagues..now somehow we fear the cure...My grandfather survived WW1 and the Spanish Flu, then went into family medicine. I'm glad he's not here to witness our response. Dr Moran reminds me of poppa, a good and honest man that should be listened to.
Because now , we can see the market tendency ... not only about health , it's about make money and sell fast , is an industry in a particularly time in history!!!
It's because the vaccine has been politicized.
When they won't let you discuss side-effects, and just tell you to blindly get it, regardless of your personal health. Of course people are going to be hesitant.
@@bazookapotamus4151 Sure, I agree with your point, but right now, In the beautiful
state of Maine, ALL the people on ventilators, but 2, are unvaccinated Covid patients and a few of them are under 50 so I don't think they're hesitant anymore FYI ICU's are full again sadly and nothing is 100% except death
Watch this one fast, there are too many facts in this video, UA-cam will probably take it down. Thank you, Dr. Moran!
Do you not realize how stupid and immature your comment is? Have any of Dr. Moran's videos been taken down? NO.
@@janrdoh
If something was taken down, how would you know?
I'm genuinely curious.
Is there a blank space stating"video removed".
@@Ted...youtubee Viewers of the channel who see the video before it gets taken down would mention it if it was removed later, UA-cam does not remove video's immediately because someone has to review it before it gets taken down, also pretty sure the Dr would have mentioned if his videos were being taken down.
@@Ted...youtubee No. it just disappears. This happened to a video I was watching about the FDA approval of Pfizer. I couldn’t finish it one night and the next day it was gone. It was not even in the channel's video listing anymore. Fortunately I was able to watch it on another platform. It was a totally reasonable and fact based discussion but apparently the powers that be did not want people to see it. Amazing, since there is plenty of crap on UA-cam that never gets removed.
@@HappyLife-wv5ms Who are these shadowy powers that be? If these powers that be wanted to kill americans, why did they wait till china released a mutated virus into the general population from their bio weapons lab? Why didn't Trump just have his own labs do it? Why did Trump initiate Warp Speed in order to get vaccines out quicker?
Your explanations are so informative! Thank you for your non-political perspective.
it was always political from day 1 sars 1 didn't get this reply or response, you upright and above the grass dont believe what they are feeding you this is just a test
This is the most informative channel since this nightmare started!
I live in the UK.
Dr Moran is definitely my ‘go to’ advisor on everything Covid.
So clear and concise- I think in future when I’m struggling to fight my corner in Covid conversations, I’ll just refer to Dr Moran.
Thank you for your honesty and clarity.
He also speaks in a calm voice which helps! People get so heated and opinionated about the vaccine. I like to continually educate myself on all things Covid and Dr. Moran refers to studies and makes it simple & clear to understand.
I live in the UK too and love listening to this guy 👍
I think we would know a lot more about natural immunity if doctors would share their findings. I tested positive for Covid in October 2020. I have several comorbitities, over 65, overweight, COPD and CLL. My symptoms were a low grade fever for about a week, sick to my stomach for a couple days, but the fatigue was pretty bad and it took 2 weeks to get over it. In January I went to see my oncologist for my 6 month blood work and checkup. He had the lab check to see if I had antibodies, and he said I had plenty. In July I went in again for my 6 month blood work and found out that my doctor had left that medical group and they assigned me to a different doctor. I asked him to check me for antibodies again and he brushed me off saying we didn't need to that I needed to get the vaccine in case I need treatment for my CLL down the road. My white cell count did go up about 9,0000 since last visit. You would think an oncologist would like to know if his patient still had antibodies. I'm searching for a new doctor before my next visit.
"The news reporters never fully read the study." . That's today's news in a nutshell.
Yes, it's true that getting the vaccine after recovery from natural infection will boost your antibody levels, but doesn't it also increase your chance of adverse side-effects both short-term and long-term? My understanding is that side-effects from the vaccine increase as the dosage increases, and the side effects are not all trivial.
One of my employees missed nearly a full week of work after getting their second dose of the vaccine, and Eric Clapton spoke out about how he was unable to play the guitar for two weeks after taking the vaccine, and felt like he had been "duped" into believing the vaccine was totally safe.
Of course, these are anecdotal reports, but where can you turn to for "official" reports on side-effects? VAERS? That's not really official, although it's full of reports of side-effects. My understanding is that there is still only two months of safety and efficacy clinical data for the Pfeizer vaccine, and that the original clinical trials were narrowly focused.
I think the effects of years of cocaine / heroin and other substances on Mr Clapton's immune system may have had something to do with his response. NOTHING is totally safe. What bothers me is when high profile people put in there 2 cents on something they know nothing about. Just muddies the water at best. And I've seen him a dozen times in concert and love his music and talent but I wouldn't even let him pop a zit, never mind take medical advice from him ....and Layla agrees ;) God these are silly times...let those that train their whole life be our sentinels not some rock n roller.. Bless Charlie Watts.... never needed or wanted to be a front man
@@richardkerns5213 yeah that’s right , who does he think he is telling people what happened to him! Maybe we should stop people we disagree with from telling their stories! After all I am sure the pharmaceutical companies are being responsible for any damage the vaccines do
@@richardkerns5213
If people don’t speak up about side effects that just turns into a cover up. That makes it impossible to improve vaccines. If we can’t acknowledge and research side effects openly or honestly even fewer people will trust the vaccines. Treating vaccine injuries like speedbumps is one big reason many people will refuse it.
I believe there's a small chance that covid recovered people who get the vaccine can produce a hyper immune response.
From what i've seen so far if a person starts getting more than 3 booster shots it can start weakening your natural immunity system. Now whether this is temporary, semi-permanent, or permanent i'm not sure.
Getting a vaccine after recovering from a natural infection never boost anyone's immunity. It is intellectual dishonesty. Anytime you encounter any particular pathogen again after recovering from a natural infection, your body naturally responds quickly because the memory is promptly called upon. It has nothing to do any boosting. It is a natural phenomenon. That's is what immunity is all about. If you passed through a natural infection, vaccine is completely useless for you.
Love Dr. Moran. He explains things so calmly and succinctly without bias. If CNN had him on instead of the lackeys they put on, who just parrot what the medical establishment wants the public to hear, there’d be a lot more trust in their reporting on the pandemic. He’s become my go-to-guy on this. Thank you, you tube, for airing his videos. They are invaluable.
Thank you for the kind words Royce.
Love the way you bring facts and analysis together, avoiding the kind of confrontational attitudes that have done so much damage to the debate. Thank you so much.
This is the best UA-cam channel for medical information. Straight to the point and promotes health. So glad I found this.
Thanks Julius.
Honestly.... you are by far the most logical, sensible and calming voice on the planet at this time.
Thank you very much Elle! I appreciate it.
I just want to say thank you so much Dr. for making this content. So I’ve been exposed twice. I first got exposed to Covid-19 in Late Dec 2019/early Jan 2020 at the Atl Airport. Was never able to get tested because I was already healed by the time testing came out. Than earlier this month I tested positive for the Delta same symptom plus the lost of smell and taste. But made me feel the same and lasted about the same amount of time two weeks. Both times were tough but I never had to go to the hospital and recovered just fine. I’m actually going to get my antibody test today. I will keep watching your content because there isn’t much info out there for people in my situation. I haven’t been vaccinated because I’m able to beat Covid without risk of severe symptoms hospitalizing me and this time around it was easier were within 7 days all the symptoms were being less active in my body, coughing less, starting to have more energy and just feeling better. I feel like the next variant would be like the mild flu for me. Got any advise for people in my situation?
Thank you Dr.Moran. Very useful Video and very informative. Very appreciative for this. Stay healthy too. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
What about regular exercise and healthy eating? It’s funny how there are so many things we are told to do by the mainstream media, yet that is rarely mentioned, if at all. While that alone may not prevent a significant case of Covid infection, isn’t it true that better overall health helps boost the immune system to fight against all infections?
Please check your Vitamin D level and read: FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
Is being healthy need to be told? Tf are you? Are child? What?
I'm assuming that you're American
@@earljames5415 Thanks for being so nice about it. So do you just go around on UA-cam looking for reasonable comments and blowing things out of proportion so that you can be a smug asshole about it? You must live a sad life.
@@josephbrown9685 I'm asking you a genuine question.
DOES BEING HEALTHY NEED TO BE TOLD TO YOU?
@@earljames5415 I don’t owe you an answer, especially not when you use all caps to yell about it. Go away.
It is so important that we get ahead of this thing and not become lackadaisical thinking just being vaxed is enough. We need to be healthy as well. This is a very balanced channel.
Sure but maybe we will have to live with it, like the Flu.
Or those of us who have had Covid and now are naturally immune, the Vax is too much.
EARLY treatment with drugs that have been proven these last 2 years is key. Ivermectin, HCQ with D and zinc, azithromycin.
My wife and I are both vegan with our primary source of food being fresh fruits and vegetables and we felt fine having covid. We felt a little sick, bit for like a day. First time being sick in like 10 years.
Thank you so much for sharing this video with us. It was very informative and I enjoyed watching it.
I had a blazing row with my step-mother, because I did not get vaccinated, because I considered myself immune having recovered from the virus. I thought it was better people with no immunity to be vaccinated. Just about everyone in the UK has either been vaccinated, recovered from the illness, been offered the vaccination even if they refused it, or are young enough not to be badly affected. Yet the paranoia continues. So you can catch and transmit other strains of the virus even after recovering from the virus. You can if you had the vaccination. What does it matter if no one gets very ill?
Mind control.
It is a pandemic of fear... fear of death... the fact is we are born and we die of something one day and many of the people who died actually died WITH covid NOT from covid
they were already terminally ill or had serious underlying conditions, the facts are the majority recover from the infection and will then have natural robust immunity, I know which type of immunity I want a natural one versus generated by multiple shots forever!
"What does it matter if no one gets very ill?"
This is what I have been saying all along. Once a large percentage of the population has been vaccinated, the number of new cases becomes irrelevant because the people who get sick are much less likely to die. Unfortunately, many governments are making lockdown decisions right now based solely on new case numbers. The media also plays right into this.
@@multiwebinc And look at how many people recovered in the first full year without the jab.
It matters because Pharma hasn't made enough money yet.
Important topic!
Why ignore Natural Immunity? Simple. There's no $$$ to be made by Natural Immunity.
Once you loose your loved ones, your opinions change… I have lost a family member and I know the pain and suffering
Love this guy...!!!!
Thank you so much for making these videos!
Thanks a lot for your unbiased explanations regarding natural immunity vs vaccine immunity. Keep up the great work!
thank you, dr Moran. your videos are always helpful and based on medical facts/research.
Thank you for your kind words David.
"...what we really want to know is whether vaccination after natural infection is clinically beneficial..."
Probably not, but it's economicly beneficial for the pharmaceutical industry. That's why all data indicating that vaccination is not nessecery for the previously infected, will be skewed, altered, corrupted or simply hidden away, so that vaccination will be deemed necessary for everyone.
You aint tell NO LIES..Hit the nail on the head. I personally never needed a vaccine after being infected with chicken pox as a child. Thats a virus. I got COVID in Feb..I will rely on my natural immunity and vitamin dense teas.
Nobody needs a vaccine after recovering from a natural infection. The purpose of a vaccine is to give you a taste of the pathogen before you encounter the natural pathogen. If you have already passed through the natural pathogen, it is pure unadulterated madness to go and get a vaccine.
@@felixmoyoedonmi How is getting the vaccine after having Covid any different than getting Covid for a second time????????
@@wildpitch1168 The difference is that you will always come in contact with natural pathogen. If you have passed through it successfully once, then your immune system is always geared towards facing it over and over again. Vaccines were developed to give a pathogen naive individual a taste of the pathogen before encountering the natural pathogen in its full complement. To therefore vaccinate someone after recovery from natural infection is a waste of time.
@@felixmoyoedonmi But vaccinating someone that has not had the virus is not a waste of time. Because the data show that those that are vaccinated and do get a breakthru case, are much more likely to survive with less complications. That is a fact. To say otherwise is to say that modern vaccinations are more harmful than a mutated virus released from a chinese bio-lab. That is conspiracy territory....That is flat earther territory...That is not rational thinking territory..
Very measured and even handed. Much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Laying here in self quarantine after 2 weeks treating my son who was on the verge of death "kept alive on oxygen concentrator at home" and my daughter in law who is still actively battling the virus but up till now with minor symptoms.
I went through a bought of corona virus in May and thought it was the flu. Test proved otherwise!
For the last two weeks I have been exposed to the virus in all its glory with little to no protection.
After 10 days, no symptoms and a negative test for covid, I have not been vaccinated.
Just me saying I think there is alot of things to learn still and the only way to learn is share which UA-cam is keeping us from doing! Of course I could be dead in a week or two but that is my God damn decision to make and saving my children is well worth it ! Cheers!
Where is your cat? I appreciate the fact you supply the studies behind everything involved with immunity and everything involved with this virus. However, I still think there is a lot we are not being told about the vaccine AND the origin of this virus. I been exposed to COVID but didn't test positive, so does this mean I have a high immune system?
Not everyone who has been around other people with the virus will acquire it in the nose or mouth. If your nasopharyngeal swab was negative and your antibodies were negative a week or 2 later, then I would say that you did not get the virus and thus your immune system did not respond to it.
I agree, you may have had a virus or bacteria, but you did not have a corona virus, if you tested negative. Sorry, you probably had a common cold or the Flu. Your lucky. Keep doing what your doing and Stay safe! You don't want a Covid 19 or any variant, but if you get it, don't let it into your lungs. It gets really bad when it hits your lungs.
There have been serious reactions in a small percentage of vaccinated people. That does not mean that the risk is low. The risk depends on each person’s immune system. For some people the risk is very high.
Dr. Moran Thank you for the update. Your outerwear is great! Nice to see your videos. Stay safe and healthy!
Dr. Moran, is it possible for you to talk about K-12 statistics and vaccine. Maybe a couple of the very sensitive topics though. Your presentations are always as informational as it is rational. Love to hear your insights on the K-12 issues. Thank you!
Thanks Doc ! I’m glad I haven’t got my shot, I was always skeptical of this vaccine and as time goes along it seems that this vaccine is not really a vaccine, it’s a guess.
The CDC’s own website says that a vaccine gives you immunity to the thing. The covid shot doesn’t appear to do that…
FINALLY !!! Someone who knows the field and uses the NUMBERS .. THIS is the most important videos I have seen. THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!! Now, how do I convince employer that I am as immune as the vaxxed ...?? Peace Sir.
Thank you, Dr. Moran for pointing out evidence-based science, not the one that's driven by politics.
You should make a video about reinfections and the severity of their symptoms .
Thank You Dr. Moran.
Most welcome!
You give impartial data and takes on the information. So im surprised UA-cam hasnt demonetized your videos. Keep the vids coming
211,000,000....Confirmed....It's likely 5 times that many...
Yes, many more go through COVID-19 without letting anybody know.
@@keezer4346 Many go through Covid without noticing.
Absolutely!!!
Depends on if they are still using pcr testing..if they are then the number is probably 5x less.
Yes, I did not point that out in this particular video, but I have quite a few videos about the odds of dying where I pointed out that the infections are on the order of 3-10 times the number of cases. For other viewers, many infections are asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic and people simply don't get tested for whatever reason.
After over a week I finally get this in my feed even though you are subscribed liked and notified. Just thought you should know
Dr. Moran , as a doctor and one who seems to take a holistic approach you know well that the body is all about self healing and self regulation if we are healthy and primarily it's about balance. No two individuals immune response is going to be the same, it will be tailored to our individual needs. You correctly pointed out that a natural immune response is much broader than a vaccine induced adaptive immune response. I was exposed and have recovered, my immune system focused on those areas of my system that i needed to recover. How do I know that if I take a single vaccine dose at this time that focuses primarily on the spike protein that it will not result in throwing system out of balance?
Haven't seen the cat lately. Thanks
How do you know you won't get a second case of Covid and throw your system out of balance even more??
@@wildpitch1168 our you vaccinacinating
* vaccinating
@@wildpitch1168 a second case wouldn't throw it out of balance because my memory b cells would ramp up antibodies to handle the threat at hand, and active killer t cells if needed.
"How To Lie With Statistics." The book every pharma "scientist" is never without
They make their own statistics! Not what they truly are!
Took a biostatistics class some years ago, it was hard! Don't remember much of what I "learned" but what I do remember is, if the data is collected unethically, the numbers can support whatever narrative you put forth. The "numbers will lie" it's all in how you put together the data.
One way to lie with statistics is to quote a highly precise number creating the impression of accuracy eg. Treatment x reduces the chance if death by 2.51 times, rather than "between 2 and 3 times". Most people do this instinctively as they do feel the more precise number adds weight to their statement.
a trusted source, imo / accurate, factual, comprehensive, thnx. . . :>/
Can you discuss the studies that show that the mRNA vaccines modulate the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells upon stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli. What are the potential broader effects on the human immune system?
The MRNA vaccines are specific to the spike protein. They don't work on fungal and bacterial infections. The vaccine component is too specific for that type of thing.
@@gibblespascack1418 you need to look at the studies from Germany and the Netherlands that show they modify pro Inflammatory cytokine responses to a broad range of pathogens, other than COVID. It is an unintended secondary effect (side effect), what you are discussing is only the primary function of the vaccine.
@@gibblespascack1418 myocarditis (inflammation of the heart) is another side effect in young males that has been observed
@@thekey429 Yea the side effects are there, understood, but you would not expect a specific bacterial or fungal kill with this vaccine. That is what I was adding.
@@thekey429 not only young males. My female relative had pericarditis after phizer she is lucky to be alive ...after a healthy med free life she is now on all sorts .
Thank you for straight facts without bias opinions and fear mongering.
Well done. Thank you again!
What about people who have gotten the delta and recovered? Are there any studies specifically on post delta immunity?
no concluded studies yet
I would be curious to hear a breakdown of this recent report. I've had problems with links to studies on YT, but here is the title.
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
I have written a script but did not have enough time to film it yesterday. Hopefully this weekend.
@@MedicinewithDrMoran Thank you
Dr Morgan, thank you for the detailed and data driven information.
At this stage I haven't been able to get vacinated in Australia and so while waiting I have looked into several studies done around the world.
One I found im Brazil indicated that healrhy levels of zinc reduced severity of symptoms. Zinc suppliments are cheap so I have started to suppliment my diet with a reputable brand while waiting for vacination.
Have you any input on the study out of Brazil?
The importance of a good diet cannot be overstated. Many people are deficient in vitamin D, magnesium, zinc to name a few. Supplementation if you're not getting enough in your diet is appropriate.
Add high dose of Vitamin D daily
@@MedicinewithDrMoran thank you for stating the importance of a good diet and that may include supplimentation if not getting the correct amount of necessary vitamins from food that may be over processed or just near "empty" of natural vitamins. The body is a wonderful thing able to repair problems and ensure good health with proper nutrition. Please give the cats a long pet for me! Miss them.
I have natural antibodies. I'm going on a cruise in the end of November, I also have mitral valve prolapse. What is your advice on which vaccine I should get? Would like to compare this advice with my doctor .
Have done any videos on projected long term effects of having one of these new types of vaccines. This is the real reason why the public resist getting a shot, world wide.
I appreciate you reviewing the medical studies. Could you review the study which discusses fluvoxamine?
Missing the kitties in this video 😺😺😺
That was a well done study together trial.
The study team screened 9020 potential participants for this trial. The trial was initiated on June 2, 2020, with the current protocol reporting randomization from January 15, 2021 to August 6th 2021, when the trial arms were stopped for superiority. A total of 3238 patients were allocated to fluvoxamine (n=739), placebo (n=733) and other treatments (n=1766). Herein, we report the effectiveness of fluvoxamine vs. a concurrent placebo control. The average age of participants was 50 years (range 18-102 years); 57% were female. The 41 proportion of patients observed in an emergency room for >6 hours or admitted to hospital due to COVID-19 was lower for the fluvoxamine group compared to placebo (77/739 vs 108/733; Relative Risk [RR]: 0.71; 95% Bayesian Credible Interval [95% BCI]: 0.54 - 0.93), with a probability of superiority of 99.4% surpassing the prespecified superiority threshold of 97.6% (risk difference 4.3%). Of the composite primary outcome events, 88% were hospitalizations. We found no significant relative effects between the fluvoxamine and placebo groups on viral clearance at day 7 (Odds ratio [OR]: 0.75; 95% Confidence Intervals [95% CI]: 0.53 - 1.07), mortality (OR: 0.70; 95% CI: 0.36 - 1.30), time to death (Hazard ratio [HR]: 0.79; 95% CI: 0.58 - 1.08), days hospitalized (Mean Difference (MD) 1.22 days; 95% CI: 0.98 - 1.53), number of days ventilated (MD 1.10; 95% CI: 0.70 - 1.73) or other secondary outcomes. Data capturing all 28 days of follow-up will be reported after August 26th, 2021. Which I could not find. Regards Margaret.
@@MedicinewithDrMoran Thank you!
Please give us your comment about this recent Israely study (the largest observational to that), that founds natural immunity to bem much more effective than two doses Pfizer: "Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections".
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Dr what would u consider to be a good amount of antibodies..I have tested and am positive for antibodies.Do u know what would be a good amount?
Thanks for the information
My pleasure.
Thank you for this doc
Thank you fir this valuable information Dr Moran.
I have had the Astrazeneca vaccine ( one shot) back on early March 2021. I got Covid on July and it was manageable symptoms. High temperature for two full days followed by loss of smell for two days and back to normal.
Does this Astrazeneca shot count as good as the ( one shot after infection) that you mentioned to further enhance the immunity? Or do I still need one after the infection?
You are what scientists and doctors should be, slow and methodical. You do not leap to conclusions like some in the medical community and media do. I value your comments. By the way, PINK? Did it scare the cats away?
Thank you for your easily undestood explanations and including links to studies. I had C19 and am pressured into getting at least one shot. My concerrn is while my immunity will be boosted, does that extra jolt to my body raise concerns around developing auto immune issues?
Thank you for your calm and collected explanations, this stoic approach is what we need in this crazy age of fear mongering by more “traditional” media.
Much appreciated!
Doctor, can you please tell me what would be the name of exact test to check my Memory B and T cells. I have already succumbed to Covid 4 months back and truly believe in Natural immunity so I did not took any of the vaccine shots so far. By this time my antibodies might deplete to some extent, but I want a valid Test name that will say if I have a strong memory B or T cells. Thanks. Waiting for your kind answer.
Like to hear more about the people who get reinfected as I had a mild case April of 2020. Is there still only one confirmed case on earth of someone dying from a reinfection(89 and on Chemo)? How about hospitalizations 1st case vs 2nd case.
Odnośnie szczepionek presja czasu jest niesamowita. Chodzi o to, aby wyprodukować i sprzedać jak najwięcej szczepionek. To wszystko dzieje się tak szybko i firmy farmaceutyczne, które produkują szczepionki, nie chcą brać odpowiedzialności za powikłania, które mogą się niestety pojawić nawet po wielu latach.
@dr. Moran. Would you be able to comment on what happens if you get vaccinated and then get infected by the delta? Even though vaccinated people should have a milder infection course, would you then have both part natural immunity to various parts of the covid virus as well as the more specific spike protein from the vaccinations? Thus giving you even more overall protection?
Has your research yielded any differences in antibody production and T cell activity produced by the mRNA vaccine versus protein based vaccines like Novavax. Has the Novavax vaccine shown SARS-Cov-2 antibody activity to components other than the spike protein?
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Dr, Moran can you help me with this question. I had Covid last June 2020, mild case. May 25 of this year I got my antibodies checked, I was curious to see how many antibodies I had. I went to LabCorp and got a SARS-CoV-2 Semi-Quant Total Ab: Venipunture test done. My range was 2165.0 U/ml, two months later August 18 2021 a few weeks ago I did the test again
at LabCorp and this time my antibody levels were more 2427.0. I hear this is good but I am confused how did i get more
antibodies. I wasnt reinfected. Thanks
You probably were exposed again, hence the antibody spike. But this time, you were asymptomatic.
That may be the case (asymptomatic reinfection) but it's also possible that your antibody levels may slightly vary. If we run the same test more than once there is going to be a certain amount of variability in the number and the 2 numbers are relatively similar.
for patients with previous infection and then reinfection are their symptoms more mild the second time?
I’ve heard that’s usually the case, but hopefully he will answer us.
Generally it is but ofcourse there's always exceptions
I had Covid -19 (no vaccine) and would love to participate in a study, where can I find something like that???
The University of Texas at Austin was conducting a open participant study testing antibodies I think
Just live your life and see if you get it again, that's the study
Maybe I missed it, but if you are vaccinated and then contract the virus (asymptomatic or symptomatic) when the virus is defeated would you then also have the benefits of natural immunity on top of the vaccine? Or do you only get natural immunity if not already vaccinated?
Natural immunity gets developed when you have had the infection whether or not you have been previously vaccinated. So if you're vaccinated and then get the infection, you get additional protection from the virus. When you get infected your body sees the whole virus and makes antibodies against different parts to the virus and your cell-mediated immunity develop cells against these different parts of the virus not just the spike protein.
I’m 54 and when I was 53 I had lung pneumonia which I had 28 years before because my job as a mailman causes me to work in the rain and cold and such . I was getting better at home but my sister drove me to the hospital and they gave me the COVID-19 diagnosis. The point is they gave me the Hydro whatever you call it and some flu medicine and I felt better the next day and haven’t been sick for one day in a year and a half. But my overall point is that with all due respect, doctors should just stick to treating cases of illness individually Because when you try to do it sociologically, You make the assumption that everyone in the world lives just for the narrative of the virus. There’s no way of knowing how anyone is going to react to a certain virus due to the different lifestyles environments and immune system etc. People don’t live in laboratories they live outside in the world full of anything that can either strengthen or weaken you . And as far as longitudinal Studies of reinfection I’ll tell you this. Sure I was sick in the hospital with lung pneumonia that they call “COVID- 19”. But I’ll bet every dime I have that sometime in the future I’ll get sick again. It’s called life…….
Is it Covid Pneumonia which is different from bacterial Pneumonia?
So can you get tested in the USA or Canada to determine what your anti-body level is?
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How will MYOCARDITIS affect my Atrial Fibrillation?
Myocarditis, no matter what the cause can sometimes trigger atrial fibrillation.
Thank you, @@MedicinewithDrMoran
Keep up the EXCELLENT work!!
@@MedicinewithDrMoran I had COVID in January 2021 no hospitalization sick about two weeks. Atrial Fibrillation present for years, no meds taken. Would taking one of the two shot vaccinations be useful? Thank you.
@@para1324 I'm not a doctor but have done extensive research. One vaccine after infection will elevate antibodies and reduce your slim chance of re-infection. A second shot will not have any benefit. Vaccine effect to reduce chance of infection wanes at about 5 months. Long term you have broader immunity than the only vaccinated. Consider your area's rate of infection, time elapsed from last vaccine and your health conditions to determine any future boosters.
@@ValuePicker11 Thank you Ken.
Doctor, I will never get this solution pumped into my body however I do appreciate your information tho!!!
Always really great information Dr Moran! The studying of Natural Immunity to disease in humans is so interesting! Thank you for info in these videos! For example where I live in St Augustine Florida the Yellow Fever epidemics has such a notable history here. The 1st Yellow Fever outbreak was in 1649 and impacted the European settlers and Native Americans alike. The death rate no doubt was 50% or higher. Then there is a 255 year gap in time before the next Yellow Fever reappears from a infected persons on a boat from Cuba. The people who succumbed to Yellow Fever 1821 epidemic were mostly northerners who had come to settle in the city recently. The descents of the Europeans settlers and Native Americans still living in the city seemed to have some kind of natural immunity to the disease and didn't come down with the disease. I always wonder if Covid natural immunity might transmit to our descendants similarly?
Boy that natural immunity sure worked for yellow fever.
Dr I had Covid in June 2020 i just got tested for igg antibodies and came back negative. What should i make of these results.?
Sir, i have a question , covid recovery about and vaccinations of covid recovery people
I've heard a few horror stories from those who had COVID. Some of the things sound more like meningitis or viral pneumonia. Do we know any case-study long-term effects caused by COVID? I want to know if the horror stories are plausible, like brain lesions or liver failure.
_A chain is as strong as its weakest link_
There are a lot of people who are unhealthy or have underling conditions they are unaware of and diseases that really don't affect most people can cause series issues in the aforementioned types.
Add to this are people who are hypochondriac and psychometric.
@@ericb4127 makes you wonder when .5% of the people are getting the virus and .9% of the people are hypochondriacs who believe they have it from watching TV.
Ive heard greater horror stories about the shots
Is there a test to check our antibody level? Wouldn't that determine whether we need the vaccine/booster, or not?
Yes. I had COVID in March and went to my physician the beginning of August to complete the antibodies test. My test came back positive for still having COVID antibodies so my doctor told me not to take the shot until I test negative. Going back the 1st week of September for another test.
Dr Moran, thank you for a very balanced and rational explanation which is free from media bias and for asking important questions, such as "What we really want to know is whether vaccination after natural infection is clinically beneficial, looking at clinically-relevant metrics", because these kind of questions never seem to make it into the media and even when doctors give advice to people. Even if the vaccine is safe and effective (which can be debatable), we still need to ask if vaccinating a specific person is necessary and if the benefits really do outweigh the risks.
A few questions regarding antibody testing:
Are we focusing all the tests on the wrong antibody? We keep testing for IgG, which is mainly present in the bloodstream, whereas IgA antibody, which is present in the airways, is arguably more important (and more potent as some studies have indicated) at coming across a respiratory virus and neutralising it. Surely a person who's had mild symptoms will probably not generate many IgG antibodies as the IgA antibodies would've already taken care of the virus for the most part whilst it's still in the airways.
Also, what is your view on the need to test for antibodies that target other viral proteins too and not just the spike protein, which we know changes shape with each variant?
Lastly, is there even much need to test for antibodies to determine immunity if memory B-cells already exist in the body and can generate a high level of antibodies very quickly should the same pathogen re-enter the body? Shouldn't we be testing for the presence of appropriate memory cells?
I’ve been researchIng the intranasal vaccine. It’s not approved yet, but, has been tested on animals with good results. It’s about to go on trail for humans.
@@jackiegrant410 That's good. It could be promising. What immune pathways does it trigger? I think Novavax is another vaccine that is promising but is yet to be approved (though that's an injection).
@@MatthewAshworth Hi Matthew, thanks for your reply and information. I have absolutely no medical experience at all, I’m just a very curious person that likes to find out as much info as possible about everything before I consider just accepting what is suggested for me to do. I’m a thinker who has wisdom and life’s experiences. My researching has caused me a lot of stress at times, but, until I am satisfied with an outcome that suits me, I’ll just continue to research. I bumped into an ex government scientist, who had studied immunology, working with T-cells etc, I listened and learnt, so much made sense, not many would listen to him, what he told me a year ago is now being investigated. During my research I discovered intranasal vaccine, so I dug a little deeper, makes sense and interesting, not sure again if it will be a solution. I hope that you can do the same and I’d love to know more if you do, thank you.
@@jackiegrant410 This is very good that you do all the research and question things. I wish more people did that. And it's quite lucky that you had an opportunity to talk to a scientist that worked for government who could tell you a lot of useful information. Are you in the US?
@@MatthewAshworth Hi, I am in Europe. At the beginning of last year, I travelled by bus for 12 hours plus from one country to another. Just behind me sat a black woman who was seriously ill, she was constantly coughing and sleeping. When we arrived at our destination I said to her that I sincerely hoped that she felt well soon, she reply saying that she felt so ill, she was going directly to a hospital. This was in London. When I arrived home a week later, I was very tired, slept like I haven’t before, at that time I put it down to travelling. This was before this virus was labelled as a pandemic. I did go to see one friend to deliver something on my arrival back home, that friend became seriously ill, headaches, coughing, couldn’t breath for almost a month, she never went to the dr, I’m wondering if I could of past it on to her. This is one reason I need more information. Too many were exposed to this dreadful virus.
Thank you so much. I’m glad someone is studying this.
Glad to hear that!
I have natural immunity. So today I am getting blood work done to show what my antibody level is at this moment. I wanted to track to level every 6 months. Could you tell me what the number will mean. What level would be considered high or moderate. Also I know there is a company that test for T cells but it’s a positive or negative result. Is that really useful for me. I just wanted to know if I would be naturally protected for awhile.
Thank you for the information videos. I love that they are factual and non-biased. Question... given that natural immunity seems to be better than vaccinated immunity, would it be better if someone were to keep themselves out there (exposed to the virus) on a regular basis? And would it work the same for someone who was never exposed but vaccinated?
Two sources of the sugar you buy in bags for cooking are sugar cane and sugar beets. Super beets is nothing more than a sugar high at a high cost. Cheaper to just buy a box of sugar cubes.
What are the studies that show vaccination efficacy - please.
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Would the upcoming Novavax vaccine address those other parts of the virus?
No, it's a Spike protein based vaccine with an adjuvant.
Is there currently a specific test to determine that a person has the *Delta variant* versus the original Covid-19 virus? If so, what is that test called?
The test for COVID-19 is the same as the for the Influenza virus. You will not be told which virus you have so it will be assumed that you have COVID-19.
@@jamiem3115 Seriously? How can that be? Forgive me for this stupid question: Does the test differentiate between covid and influenza? Or, do they choose to not specify which one a person may have?
@@cincocharms1233 The PCR test only confirms the presence of a Virus. Google it for yourself or watch the UA-cam Videos of Influenza testing. Also try to find official figures of Current Influenza cases. It’s like the Flu has mysteriously disappeared.
@@jamiem3115 Thank you for responding. That is not very scientific! I believe I am a rational person, but the apparent deceptions/contradictions from our government officials and from med/pharma industry is perplexing and has me a bit paranoid.
There are genomic sequencing tests to determine variant type. Currently 99% of COVID positive test are Delta.
Can you speak on the spike proteins ?
I had Covid 19 last Christmas. I tried to get treatment but after the third time calling a doctor and my health insurance with the only offer of cough syrup , I had very little cough so I searched and volunteer for a monoclonal antibody study here in the Atlanta area. I received the infusion and was followed for 6 months. I was much better the next day and continued to get better until I was asymptomatic. If I need any vaccine as you said I wanted the J and J. I can't find it in my area at all. If I am covered with natural immunity and 1 vaccine I would be willing to do this but only one and then I want whatever paperwork I need to be fully covered I'm having surgery soon and know this will be an issue. I know I still have antibodies at this point. I wish I could get into a long term study of this because I'm old (74) and diabetic. When will the CDC which seems more concerned with language and evictions instead of Disease come out with guidelines for natural immunity? I want to fly, get surgery and do what I want without being told I'm a negligent person.
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My pleasure!
My 23 year son has been exposed to Covid many times over the year. College Classmates had it, his roommate had it, his sister had it. He had a blood antibody test and was negative. But he’s never gotten it. I’m puzzled as to whether he’s just lucky or if some people are just resistant. The other members of the family are either immune from natural infection or vaccine (I’m pfizered up)
The same exact thing with my 22 year old son and I’ve wondered the same thing. He was at a party where every single kid tested positive afterwards and he was shocked he tested negative.
@@patty-cf7jj Every single kid tested positive after the party? Really. If that is the case, then you son was not at the party. Two questions arise from this: First where was your son really? Second, where did you learn math?, because you missed something from that education.
in 2009 my daughter got swine flu, like most of her class did. I didn't get it. in 2019, I got swine flu, almost killed me my boyfriend never got it. I was worried if I got covid I would be unable to breathe like with swine flu, but that did not happen
we just don't know I guess why our bodies work the way they do. if we did know, and if science knew, then we may not be here with this vaccine debate
@@mandyconnecteddogs Unfortunately the debate would still be here. If we still have the debate over 6 days vs 14 billion years, there is no level of science which would help people to understand, because they don't want to.
@@gibblespascack1418 holy stupidity personified. It's hilarious you actually think the kid wasn't at a party because he didn't test positive. Stupid people like you need to have their right to vote revoked. That means "taken away".
I really appreciate your honest expert opinion Here is my question, when it comes to COVID parties, I am not saying this extreme, but why not? Why are we so afraid of kids, teens, and or 20 y/os living life? We are masking kids, isolating them, and we are not allowing their immune system to become robust with kid illnesses. I would think that would affect them as they become adults. Second, my kid is 11, and she is high strung and freaking out over COVID. I kept her calm but she felt comfortable wearing a mask at school. I said sure, go ahead. Well two weeks ago, she got COVID from school. She ran a temp for a few days, gave her aspirin, gave her vit c, D3, zinc (small doses), but she has been running around very active. She asked me what does this mean and I told her that she has a natural immunity to the virus. You saw a weight off her shoulders and also mine and my wife's. We got COVID back in December, my wife zero symptoms and I got it from her even though I am really not around her. I got it worse, but nothing like anything I get when I get Strep. My wife and I were cautious around her, but I did not wear a mask, and for her it was comforting to know we were not treating her like she had the plague.
Last point, this is not going away. We are all getting older, the vax will wane, and even natural immunity may wane, but it is more robust than just having the vax. I will probably be getting a booster since it has been 8 months, but avoidance and kicking this can down the road will create so many more issues physically and mentally. I read where one lady was boasting about being on a plane for 12 hours and not removing her mask one time to even get a drink. So yeah, saying going out to a COVID party is extreme, but just get back to standard life is our way out of this. As any virus, the virus will cool down (still a little afraid how virulent the virus is and the leaky vax could lead to resistant strains and that will be REAL bad) and our immunities will increase with exposure. I am not saying NOT to get the vax and in fact I would have gotten the vax if I did not get COVID. Difference is, I would be out in public life and if I get it, I get it. BTW when I got over it, being in my 40s, I was popping the MASK+ except the IVR for many weeks prior and did not have many issues like I said. When I got over it, it was a mental freedom I also had. Then my kid is now thru it, there is another larger relief. Anyways, thanks for the great info!
Dr. Moran, I know someone who received a Pfizer shot 5 months after J&J. Is there any research indicating whether they should receive a second Pfizer shot following this mixture?
Brendan, there is some data primarily from Canada and the UK about mixing and matching. Many patients received the Pfizer mRNA vaccine with the AstraZeneca one. Studies suggest that the immune response is actually better than 2 doses of the Pfizer or 2 doses of the AstraZeneca alone. I have not seen in the thing with Johnson & Johnson/Pfizer but would expect that it would be just as good. A third shot would not be necessary unless the patient was immunocompromised.
One thing I noticed Dr. Moran said, he was not discouraging vaccination and/or saying vaccination wasn't as good as natural immunity.
Breakthrough cases are also a matter of concern. Earlier this month, Science magazine reported that 514 Israelis were hospitalized with COVID as of August 15, that 59 percent of these had been fully vaccinated, and that the vast majority of these fully vaccinated people